Is Horner Right To Be Angry At Wolff Over Verstappen? F1 Round Up With SeedStream. 

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I remember the days of 36 cars (with pre-qualifying) - and points down to 6th in the races...

6:00 It can't be lack of experience because Stroll has been in F1 since 2017 and has 148 race starts... He's just once again showed that he's Captain Oblivious

Great video Marc. Agreed with all points brought up, although I spent the latter half of the video wondering where your second dog had gotten to haha.

Spot on, Marc. I've been banging on about the flawed points system for years. It used to be top 6...then top 10...now they want to discuss moving it to top 12....WHO is coming up with these random numbers, and why??? Award points for all finishers, and the best man still wins at the end of the season. Fun fact...if we had followed a linear points structure of 20pts for 1st down to 1pt for 20th, Perez would've been leading the championship right now, ahead of Leclerc, and Max would be only 3rd. How's that for excitement!

Sprint Weekend. Friday: Practice 1 Sunday Qualifying. (Use Sunday Placings as Reverse grid for Saturday Sprint) Saturday: Practice 2. Sprint Race. Sunday Race. I think that'll be more interesting as you say.

Great chat, Marc. Enlightening, interesting and seamless. Keep keeping up the good work 🌞

Ladies & Gentlemen this is the legend that painted the hands of Kimi Raikkonen as blue as a smurf LMAO, got held beneath Kimi's legs later on and was shaved through the middle of his head as a pay-back while on vacation in Kimi's house! What an amazing book!!! Great read! The insight on how Alonso dealt with the mechanics among the other stuff, offering them money, which came out on the internet last year as big news just as I was about reading that passage in the book - book I already had on the shelves among other F1 great books for almost a year, what a read! Great video Marc and all the best to you!

The sprints don't really work for me as they're too disconnected from the actual race ... the way to resolve this, is change the order ... quali to determine the grid for the sprint, then the sprint result determines the grid for the final race ... it makes the sprint a proper part of the process and balances out drivers who quali well and those who are better in race mode ... and you could spread it across the whole season as well then.

What a beautiful countryside, its like the Shire. Great video, no bs, great structure, an English gem.

Id prefer to see much longer races up to 500k, dump sprints.

Marc I agree that certainly last year, Lewis agreed to be the test mule for the new design ideas as a way of using the race as a way of extending the FIA “allowed” F1 testing limits….

Williams finally didn't break anything.

Seedstream downloaded...Thank you.. Great videos.. keep up the good work!

I agree, sprint weekends will work if there was only 1 qualifying session and they used (I know this may be unpopular) a reverse grid for the sprint.

For me the ideal race weekend would look like this... Friday - practice...2 or even 3 sessions, you have all day Saturday AM - Sprint race, randomised grid. Award the top 10, or even half points for all finishers. Saturday PM - quali for Sunday's GP Sunday - race. Points awarded in a sliding scale for all finishers.

What about changing tyres philosophies , not necesseraly the provider 'cause he is responding to the fia demand But changé something, for example I would love to see the 3 compounds obligation By this it would also had a second mandatory pit stop

Marc, curious on your perspective to how would you feel working on Lance's side of the garage at Aston, when most people would openly say he is only in that car because of his dad owning the team. Surely that's a big issue for morale and motivation? The team cannot be taken seriously while that dynamic continues surely

LS hitting DR was utter careless driving

If F1 is meant to be the worlds biggest cash cow, so lets do it properly: 3 sprint races, a night race, plus a double distance race on Sunday afternoon.

You mentioned reverse grids again, but I somehow don't think teams would push for a top grid position to only have it be inverted. Even if just for a Sprint-esque format, that's pretty much taking the reward away to start with. Instead, why not hold 1 qualifying session followed by a reverse grid (half-point-sprint?) race followed by the actual race, where the qualifying result determines the gridslots for both events. That way teams will have to push to benefit their sunday race-position and we get an entertaining, slightly less impactful spectacle with a reversed setup.

I do think we need to have some thoughts for the teams. 24 races is huge. Plus sprint races. It's too much for individuals. Go much furtger and drivers and teams will be ground down and exhausted. That's when mistakes happen. Mistakes can lead to injuries and death. They have before. I'm getting very annoyed with Liberty squeezing the sport to make ever more amounts of money. The goose is being killed and there will be no golden eggs left.

Love these! Following you (again)! 👌🏼 Nobody in AM dares to be critical about Lance. Ridiculous situation. As for sprintformat it’s the circumstances that make it interesting not the format unfortunately. All it does is take away any strategy aspects of the race imho.

Great summary of the issues. Agree with pushing the points to bottom of grid.

I would not be surprised to see both Helmut and Max make their move to Mercedes

agree, really experiment with the sprint weekend

A format for the sprints I've thought could be interesting... You have to start the main GP on the same set of tyres you finish the sprint race on. Some would pit for better race strat, some would take the sprint points, and there would be a diversity of tyre performance on the grid at the start of the main race, much like when there were different fuel strategies when refuelling was allowed. This would also play into many different pit stop strategies being employed and stop there being an optimal strategy which most just stick to

Regarding power units I have question, does F1 supply MGU units to the engine manufacturers to mate their ICE engines to, or do the manufacturers supply their own built to F1 guidelines. I know that in years past in Indy cars USAC supplied the teams with a calibrated and sealed bypass valve to keep boost pressures even across the board.

Changing the points system should be done carefully as it needs to properly reward performance from the top to the bottom of the order. It is further complicated by how points are translated to prize money.

How would qualy work for the reverse grid in the sprint? Get rid of it and have the reverse grid from the last race? Or should there be points for sprint qualy so that the teams are just trying to go the slowest to start from the front?

Seed stream is awesome, it's like you say.. really worth a look, great stuff

Revers grid would mean the cars trying to go the slowest. Sprint grid should be linked to the Q1 grid and reversed.

I agree 100% on reversing the field. Otherwise the sprint is just a mini version of the bug rave. I also agree giving points to the entire field makes sense. I like the NASCAR system where races are broken Into stages and the top ten teams earn additional points. If Max is a smart guy he will stay with Red Bull and sign contracts that allow him to leave. Vettel left Red Bull to go to Ferrari and that didn't work out well. Toto trying to openly recruit Max is not much different than Ferrari signing Hamilton in the beginning of the current season.

I like the idea of getting points for the whole grid. Get's every car to fight for something. Points should only be awarded to cars that actually finish. So all car who cross the finish line after the winner does. So no clasification with 2-3 laps behind cause they retire just before the end... You finish you get points, you don't zero points for you.

If they for some reason decide not to give points down to 12th, then they must give reverse grids a try. There needs to be something to fight for for the lower teams

12th for points can only be good.

I still think the Moto Gp qualifying format & points distribution would suit F1 better than what we have now.. I also think the fastest lap should count on any car’s position & not just the fastest 10.. Maybe the points system should cover as you say 12 positions, but why not award half points for the next 5 or 6 positions after that..as you say what an incentive if you’re fighting at the back of the pack

Im not in favor for sprint in general. But the new sprint format makes it a practice race. This format is better. Revers grid line up want to see it can be fun.

I think they should try reverse grid by surprise. Make them qualify then let them know they’re reversing the grid. That will throw a spanner in the works and cause some excitement.

Sprint weekend = fri fp1+fp2, sat quali+sprint reversed grid from quali, sun gp 😊

in the 80's with the points for first 6 places, it was too hard to get points for backmarkers, specially with 10 or 12 lifetreatening shitheaps in the field with masses of paydrivers that should never have been in F1. Sysytem of today is way better, maybe 20 cars is not much but no riterements to speak of.

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Reverse grids - start them with the safety car. The cost of these cars, and their repairs, is far too high to have the carnage that would result.

I was dead against the Sprint race but the new format worked very well in China and I have now reversed my opinion. I would not be against having that format every race weekend, and perhaps then adopting the idea suggested by Crofty from Sky, a Sprint championship and make it separate to the proper F1 championship. As for reverse grids, please no, never. That is too manufactured, a Flavio idea, not one I will ever support. You make a good F1 video, enjoyed it.

I disagree slightly that points further down would generate drivers and teams taking more risk. I think it would give the complete opposite, if a team like sauber are in 12th with points available they'll play it conservative to keep those points whereas now they can take strategy risks as they have nothing to lose. Some of the best results for back of the grid teams are because they had nothing to lose and tried some wild strategy or gambled when the rain was going to come etc.

The Dutch, they dont like sneeky shit, and Horner revealed a certain amount of sneekyness in his personality, Max is leaving.

🙄 Again, you can NOT do a reverse grid. It will be caos! We went through this before! 🙈

The problem with reverse grids is how would we incentivise teams to not intentionally bottle qualifying for a better reverse grid spot?

Reverse grids on paper are a good idea. But it would present it's own issues like teams that have no chance of getting points anyway will set up the car for the race and then qualify badly so they could at least have some chance of getting the final points. Tracks that are near impossible to overtake will become even more boring. So you'd have to do it like F2 right? only top 10 get reversed otherwise it will introduce a whole new level of manipulation. I'm not sure if I like the idea, Formula 1 is all about the best team and the best drivers trying to be nr. 1. I feel like it will just become too gimmicky and goes against what F1 (imo should) stand for. There are other categories for that. F2, FE

I would expand FP1 to 90 minutes as the only change to the current sprint format. Adding points beyond the first 10 is interesting, and I think it might work.

Personally I’m pro sprint races. But I think the initial set up was best. Right now they seem pretty irrelevant as it has no consequences for the real race, and seeing how the teams are divided if you running 12th at the half way mark may as well retire the car to preserve the engine. I remember Perez crashing out on the first sprint. That’s kinda the fun. As is it’s just replacing practice. Are people really wanting to watch practice more? I also think it should be either all weekends or no weekends. I’ve seen F1 give more points from top 6 to now 10. If we give more than may as well just get to the conclusion give it to all drivers that finish the race. And only DNF goes home pointless.

Totally right about Lance. If he was looking, as he claimed, then why didn’t he attempt to swerve and how come his helmet was pointing towards the apex? The penalty had little effect on his (as usual) underperforming race. And what’s more he prevented Ricciardio from serving his 10 second Safety Car related penalty so he’s now hit with a 3 place grid drop at Miami. His Dad is doing an amazing job except for one rather large blind spot? No prizes!

Regarding Lewis, I remember reading a comment of one of his engineers that he was (is?) very hard to work with in testing. They would send him out on a lap with a certain setting during a test, he would return having three parameters changed on his steering wheel as he thought it would get him a better result. As an engineer, you can understand how frustrating that can be when you are running a program. Lewis, world class driver as he no doubt is, seems to be limited in his understanding of the technology behind racing. Whatever the reason, Lewis's experiments are costing Mercedes points....

Be nice to get notifications on things you follow when uploaded , best think about seedstream is the f1 story's are real not fake news from reporter trying to predict the future

Talking about other drivers won't fix Mercedes instead heads down and fix that car Toto. By the looks Lewis decision to leave is justified. Maybe he knows that the aero engineering part of the team is in no man land. Probably they should try to poach someone from that department instead of Max .

not a fan of sprint races or sprint weekends. Yes they were on track when they otherwise wouldn't have been if it was a wet FP2 but that still didn't make for an entertaining sprint race, nor did it lead to an interesting GP. the new points system I am a fan of despite the old fashioned opinion of Martin Brundle on twitter.

Sadly the crew at Aston Martin are hamstrung when it comes to dealing with Lance. Daddy's boy has been spoon fed his whole life and doesn't have the ability to reflect on his own shortcomings. Papa Stroll has to accept a lot of the blame for this and needs to make some necessary changes for the sake of the team.

I am all in on points to all finishers!

you can't let points go all the way to 20th place because then the Andretti argument about not being competitive thrown out the window

Points down to 19th. Should have hard fighting up and down the grid imo. Its pretty obvious you're gonna drive harder if 16th place is an extra point for u and tye team.

Hi Marc, is it still true that if you get a point in a GP F1 will pay for your transportation costs to the next Grand Prix? I think it was like that in the 90's. I think that points should be awarded for every position, the racing further back would become epic... Just make the 1 point for last and 100 for 1st Food for thought. The battle through the field would be mega. About Stroll, I agree he was watching the head of the field on his right.

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No. Reverse grids destroy cars and races period. Over and over decade after...... Not real racing just moving over blah blah

A sprint weekend is a whole lot of TV watching, esp when time is already split with other life things, must be tricky if you are able to watch live. So here's some ideas that hopefully avoid teams and drivers trying tricks to "qualify where they want to" Sprint weekends, two equal length races one on Saturday one on Sunday, approx 1 hour each. Saturdays grid is reverse championship order, so no manipulating last races finishing order for a good sprint spot. Sunday would be all too easy to say start as you finished, or reverse start again from the result but I feel some might try tricks If they aren't doing well. You could reverse the finishers who didn't fall more than 1 or 2 laps behind but where would that leave early crashers? I'd be tempted to do a fastest lap from Saturdays race, Saturdays race was quali. As the fast cars will be in traffic a lot of the time they won't automatically get the fastest times, and cars out front may not be the quickest. Parc ferme is open between races if you want to make changes. As for normal quali an idea I've floated for a while now is back to a 1 hour session. For the first 20 mins only the bottom 1/3 teams in the championship get to be out on track, for the next 20 the bottom 2/3 teams get to be on track, the bottom 1/3 have now had 40 mins. For the last 20 all teams are allowed on track. The bottom teams have had an hour to dial the car and empty track to play with, the top teams only 20 mins to find a quiet part of track and get their laps done. Imagine the weather like in China getting worse and the top teams have to go in the conditions they've got. Or it getting better and the lower teams have got their inters up to temp and going for it, or maybe already got their slicks fully warmed and the top teams now have to get up to speed. Point wise, like MotoGP, points to 16th but they do have 22 riders not 20 so maybe 15th, 3/4 of the grid. Cost cap like other metrics based on finishing position should also be sliding with lower placed teams able to spend more ( no point giving them more aero time if they can't spend the money ) Lastly for now, No DRS for the top 3.

The sprints are stupid. Here is one way to make it exciting, the FIA allow three cars for the sprint. Then each team fields a car for their reserve drivers only. Let the sprint have its own points for those drivers and the teams collect the constructors points.

Check out what has happened to Daniel Ric with musical chairs. His career is under threat now.

Maybe give teams tyres except they have no idea what hardness they get for each pit-stop, just 4 matching tyres but are they hard or soft or extra soft? Have them think on their -feet- _boots_ so to speak. :)

If more points are awarded to lower place it would mean less money for the top ten. So wouldn’t get their vote

You can't talk about Stroll and say something is lack of experience. He's driving his 8th season in F1 and he has more experience in not being aware of his surroundings than any driver in history. He's an absolute master in obliviousness.

Like it or not, these sprint races are the most exciting times / sessions in this Maxxed era. If Liberty hadn't me$$ed up f1, they wouldn't even exist. If the silver arrows are desperate, Liberty media is too. FACTS.

Points to 15 maybe.

Somehow, F2 sprints are good. Longer than F1 sprints, and top 8 reversed from a single quali. With the huge cost of repairs, little incentive for smaller teams to try too hard there.

I'm on the fence with sprint races, but if we have to have them and there are going to be something that's against the old format. Can they not have FP1, FP2 Qualy, and then the sprint race with the fasted cars at the back. Great video.

Apparently mick running the simulator was important

I definitely agree that we should try reverse grid for sprint weekends. If there are concerns with crazy concertina because of speed differences, we can go with rolling starts to stretch out the field. This will give the smaller teams some valuable TV time, and more eyes on rookies to shine (since they are more likely to start in a back marker team), like can you imagine if this happened a few years back and we saw George Russel in the Wiliams defending aginst Hamilton coming from the back of the field, so hype! From what I remember, Hamilton did say Mercedes took a year or two to get the brakes to how he likes, so Max might need to think about that if he's looking to switch teams.

Cannot see the Verstappens rolling the dice with a Ford engine. The odds of Ford getting it right out of the gate, with no experience building f1 hybrids, are very long. They're happy enough now but I definitely think there's an exit strategy afoot.

If you do a reverse order then what you going to get is that with the sprint qually drivers try to have the slowest time to be at the front !!! really you did not think that trough well enough there !!!

Sorry, Christian, for a team leader who does not hesitate to criticize and fire your drivers mid season, your "worry and concern" about other teams getting your drivers is moot. Horner is the last person who should be throwing stones about drivers.

Points to 10th was silly enough. 12th is just BS, rewarding teams for lack lustre effort.

Reverse grid - can you imagine... everyone trying to go as slow as possible (in SQ). I guess it could be reverse championship standings?

Sprints ok but your can't watch race qualy when at work on Friday

Newey news?

I personally don't like the sprint format, it gums up the weekend with nonsense. If they want to change things around then how about a two day race weekend something like, Sat. morning practice, Sat. afternoon qualies, Sunday the race. Get rid of all those superfluous stuff on Thur. & Fri., plus the fact it would be cheaper, you wouldn't need boarding for those two days.🤪 I think everything is dull, the same guy qualies 1st, he wins the race running away, how about we reinstitute the weight penalties to bring closer together on track.🤪🤪 All out.

Redbull built the car around Verstappen. What nonsense. 😂😂😂

Lewis isn't experimenting, he can't find a setup that works. George seems to have no problems at all. Mercedes is making excuses to not hurt Lewis's ego.

Verstappen is not going to leave RedBull for Mercedes. He knows he couldn't win world championships in the Mercedes. His fan base might believe he can walk on water, but Verstappen knows that his success is very much linked with his car.

About Horner and Wolff te following. As you said It’s not done to openly court a driver that has a contract until 2028. So there’s your answer. Wolff should have stopped whining specifically whence’s got absolutely nothing to offer him! And as for saying Verstappen is just this good because the car is built for him, that’s rubbish. Newly designs a car that’s fast, not that’s for Max.😊

What would happen if # 1 got 20 points and count down to 1 point for #20? No points for DNF / DNS. Someone way smarter than me could run some simulations esp for how it would change past season results How about bottom 5 teams are dropped if there is an acceptable (?) replacement standing by. ( would give Andretti a chance to see what he can do and he would be out in a year if he can’t finish better than 15th. I have many more thought esp re Sprint races

Been a huge fan of Merc since they came back into the sport but not a fan of some of Toto's antics since the regulation changes. That said it's a business and if a driver (available or not) that he is interested in signing and is willing to leave their current team, he would be stupid to not at least ask the question and see them going to another competitor.

Well said

honestly i think they trying to make Lewis Hamilton look bad as he leaving

Marc, have tried to download the app, but my mobile says it cannot install, can you assist please?

Some weekends, Stroll can be a reasonable driver. Other weekends, it's like he couldn't care less. Spoilt brat. I thought China was the best weekend of the year so far, but I still don't like the sprint. Make it a separate championship, and allow teams to enter different drivers. This will give valuable experience to the teams reserve & development drivers.

Love you Priest but I have to disagree on all accounts - the amount of sprint races is more than enough. The human factor should be taken into consideration for the mechanics more than the drivers. Think about the stress these people would have if the Williams incidents occurred in a sprint weekend. Points up to twenty will totally devalue the whole idea of fighting for points. I think you underestimate the power the Toto and Horner fight gives the Verstappens currently. That manager of his is one of the best and he'll make sure that Max will get the very best. Even in Red Bull, preferably with GP.

I got news for you max has said personally in a dutch tv show he is not leaving red bull for mercedes and if which is a big if he does go to merc then he will only go when he can take Helmut Marco, jp, and newey so max going to mercedes is slim to null !!!!!

Always elucidating.

Horner is trying to steady his ship as it still seems in a bit of a heavy swell, and well, just who caused his 'hidden' problems? Toto is just playing the TP game as he should. All is fair in love and war!

Why would Max leave a winning team? As for his father, he needs to keep his mouth shut and keep his opinions private. Toto is just trying to ruffle Christian.

Reverse grid would be amazing tbh. Id love to see that.

Did you manage to get home with both dogs 😁