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IS IRON GIANT S TIER? | MultiVersus 2v2 Tier List | Morty Patch V1.01 

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@kehnnys
@kehnnys Год назад
They’ve claimed to had nerfed iron giant but his moves feel like they do more damage each patch 💀
@Gelusss
@Gelusss Год назад
i found the 90%
@zeek7200
@zeek7200 Год назад
Because the players get better
@kehnnys
@kehnnys Год назад
@@zeek7200 I main iron giant, I’m not complaining about him, I’m saying that it feels like that when I use him
@kehnnys
@kehnnys Год назад
@@Gelusss I main iron giant, I’m not complaining about him, I’m saying that it feels like that when I use him
@MustySoldier
@MustySoldier Год назад
@@kehnnys i was maining iron giant but i can’t anymore horrible matchups for so many characters in the game
@SlightlyOP
@SlightlyOP Год назад
Weight alone puts giant in a category of his own. Mid-low level players haven't perfected juggling combos or strong confirms. And when you have a %200 iron giant running around with the last stand perk on just putting in the damage. Pair him with a strong confirmer and it makes him feel over powered.
@SlightlyOP
@SlightlyOP Год назад
@@_Molecule I'm not talking about move sets, but character attributes. Such as weight, speed, size. Giant is the heaviest, at 176w the next is superman at 96w. That's the largest margin for all character attributes. Best Tank.
@Ghosta085
@Ghosta085 Год назад
Idk if you’ve seen it but he has a perk that gives him a scrap or whoever it is whenever he gets grey health, and velma has a perk that makes picking up evidence give an ally grey health. So those two combined, on top of the other perk that allows projectiles to give grey health. You got a very hard to kill iron giant.
@deantebritton
@deantebritton Год назад
Iron giant is a noob killer, against anyone with skill he struggles
@THXKXNG
@THXKXNG Год назад
I play Steven & he’s OP. If you build a *Roof & Wall* with Steven’s shields you can combo-trap your opponents with jab. They bounce like crazy, especially using the hit-stun perk.
@garciaforbes2013
@garciaforbes2013 Год назад
that's if you can actually hit the opponent with his stubby ass arms
@derektordca
@derektordca Год назад
@@garciaforbes2013 it's easier than you think if you play as him
@zekuhryuhh
@zekuhryuhh Год назад
@@garciaforbes2013 As long as you mix-up your approach with dodge-cancelled nair hold timings (and remember that the longer you hold nair the bigger the hitbox becomes), floatjumps, and up-special floats, you don't have much trouble. Spacing with Steven takes some time to get down, but he has decent enough semi-disjoints to get around the lack of true range. Plus, his neutral special controls so much neutral space which allows you to guide your opponent in predictable ways.
@smokeyjoe6059
@smokeyjoe6059 Год назад
@@zekuhryuhh I wish I knew how to play him like that. 🥲
@zekuhryuhh
@zekuhryuhh Год назад
It sounds way more complicated because I sorta just made a word salad lol. I've only been playing him since he went on the last free rotation, so I'm not even close to being a master, but I latched on hard. It's so much fun to bouncy house people to death!
@thereal_Zare
@thereal_Zare Год назад
hey void, thanks for telling me how mid my mains are. it really makes me feel that much better when i kill a bugs now. much appreciated
@josiahgreen7681
@josiahgreen7681 Год назад
Void should try out the Iron Giant, he will learn a lot more than he currently knows about using Iron Giant.
@ZeekeyProductions561
@ZeekeyProductions561 Год назад
As a LVL24 Pj Finn Enthusiast, ima actually have to agree with the Finn placement. Finn is such a combo-heavy character that if the other opponent just stops your combo, your basically useless. Though I disagree with the Jake placement due to his stretchy punch basically stopping any team combo
@sqpenn
@sqpenn Год назад
Lmao yea bro, cant be getting interrupted during F-air Up air at all percents, It’d be devastating💀 actual downplay. Still better than arya and Harley 100%. He’s insane in good hands
@MrJengo22
@MrJengo22 Год назад
I agree
@isaachitam8186
@isaachitam8186 Год назад
Same with all assassins
@Raktr261
@Raktr261 Год назад
copium is strong with this one
@yenice3652
@yenice3652 Год назад
Combos aren't a win con for Finn though.. You better have reindog, Arya, and WW *very* low then
@SirCaco
@SirCaco Год назад
Game quest: "Perform a neutral special 20 times" Me looking at Bugs: "I want to take this moment to apologize"
@A_quip
@A_quip Год назад
Worse with tom tbh
@TEKFROLOGIC
@TEKFROLOGIC Год назад
Great list. I personally feel like T&J are better than Bugs since they have less cooldown moves, can keep out characters better with slingshot, and spend less time setting up projectiles.
@deantebritton
@deantebritton Год назад
Iron giant is a newb killer and punisher. If you are new, you die to him from making mistakes. If you are good, you get punished for getting greedy. He is combo food and has one true opportunity to really pressure you for a few seconds on cooldown
@TsunamiJMG
@TsunamiJMG Год назад
🔥🔥🔥We need more content like this. Especially because you know what you’re talking about.
@icetr3y488
@icetr3y488 Год назад
Maaaan Reindog in A tier is a little wild. I consistently drop 450+ damage just about every game
@JewTube001
@JewTube001 Год назад
but that's why he's bad. you can deal damage but you can't kill. strong characters can either do both, or can even kill with low damage.
@JimmiePitts
@JimmiePitts Год назад
wait but do you win??
@vyx6005
@vyx6005 Год назад
@@JewTube001 he's a support character. He saves teammates and his high damage output makes it easier for the teammate to clean up the enemy
@Fakedeath84
@Fakedeath84 Год назад
@@JewTube001 His neutral has hella easy knockouts and his spike is the single best in the game. Even his crystal can give you a ton of cheeky knockouts at 130+ dmg.
@NatashaLulaby
@NatashaLulaby Год назад
Steven melon guy punch has hitbox problem most of the times dont hit when should
@CatsRGr8_
@CatsRGr8_ Год назад
Nerf bugs fuck he has been so overpowered with so many options for so long
@jmann531
@jmann531 Год назад
Bugs keeps digging under the nerfs lol.
@waywardlucky3194
@waywardlucky3194 Год назад
My teammate and I play Batman and Arya any time one of us touches iron giant he doesn’t get to play until at least 120 percent
@metalgeartrusty
@metalgeartrusty Год назад
I think the taz player “courage” plays on hitbox. Its crazy seeing all the different controllers at evo top 8
@sqpenn
@sqpenn Год назад
Steven hopium I think someone could do it tho
@gregoryolenovich6440
@gregoryolenovich6440 Год назад
I feel like Velma's problem is she's just too easy to do really busted stuff with. Like everything she has just does it automatically. IG is kinda in a similar spot. I feel like unless you make them straight up bad, they're just going to be busted. Probably need to redesign some things completely
@Crona_Gowther_Kanato
@Crona_Gowther_Kanato Год назад
I like this comment a lot, yeah it makes sense where as someone like Tom & Jerry has a very high skill floor, same with others it’s not easy to be average with them, you’ll get run over. But Velma & Iron Giant specifically like he just has super armor on so many moves to the point where any kid who picks him up can mash & probably kill you through randomness alone
@gregoryolenovich6440
@gregoryolenovich6440 Год назад
@@Crona_Gowther_Kanato yea that's the problem with characters like this. They're either going to just be unfair or they're going to be bottom tier. You can't let characters like this run the meta because it feels so bad to players, so I think eventually Velma and IG will be bottom 2 or redesigned.
@Khan-_-Art1st
@Khan-_-Art1st Год назад
@@Crona_Gowther_Kanato You're a casual. IG only gets armor if he sets it up with bolts and it's not hard to counter
@Crona_Gowther_Kanato
@Crona_Gowther_Kanato Год назад
@@Khan-_-Art1st well I’ll admit that I’m just another average casual but I’m also aware of the fact the bolts are what give him super armor.. it’s the living to 200% & command grabbing for me that all low ladder bums spam.
@grayson9052
@grayson9052 Год назад
Ig is in a fine spot right now. Hes not good but still really fun. Velmas a bit dif tho
@mini8964
@mini8964 Год назад
Bugs has to be undisputed best in the game, all of his moves are literally the best move in the game. This game deadass has melee balancing
@OfLastingThunder
@OfLastingThunder Год назад
TJ is 100% the best in the game. Lmao
@mini8964
@mini8964 Год назад
@@OfLastingThunder no fucking shot man, bugs can do whatever the fuck he wants and also kill you at 80. Tj is annoying and probably top 3 or 4 but he's not the best
@mrjollyguy25
@mrjollyguy25 Год назад
@@OfLastingThunder it's def Bugs
@OfLastingThunder
@OfLastingThunder Год назад
@@mrjollyguy25 he's really good, no doubt. He doesn't have the tools TJ does though. He has no projectile cooldowns, controls at minimum half a stage if left unchecked. He's Velma, Bugs and Harley all in one character man. Better projectiles than Velma, a gross up and down air like Bugs and combo loops like Harley. Not balanced at all.
@Dusty.Reviews
@Dusty.Reviews Год назад
@@OfLastingThunder facts. I'd put t&j possibly one spot above bugs if not equal to.
@moezbadboy
@moezbadboy Год назад
every time he does a tier list people in the chat are like "is this 1v1 or 2v2"
@namyoyolawl
@namyoyolawl Год назад
Is this 1vs1 or 2vs2?
@ChiefYona
@ChiefYona Год назад
I think since void plays mostly 2v2, it's intended for that game mode
@chungboislim2061
@chungboislim2061 Год назад
@@ChiefYona I think the video has a title
@thamos6546
@thamos6546 Год назад
Is this FFA or Co-op vs AI ?
@wildarms25
@wildarms25 Год назад
G.Iron is great on on team because just tank block he a wall that fight
@Clide0_0
@Clide0_0 Год назад
that does seem close to what it is tbh. I was at 400k in the leaderboards for 1v1s after playing for like almost 2 hours i was at 60k and my win rate was basically at a 100% win rating lol. definitely wild since i really have only played 2v2. iron giant seems less janky/glitchy but I just think people don’t know the match up because when they do I was stuck in an infinite. plus iron giants seem super rare from what i can tell
@theosylvester9089
@theosylvester9089 Год назад
Who did you play in 1v1s?
@Clide0_0
@Clide0_0 Год назад
@@theosylvester9089 i play iron giant rn forgot to say that mb lol
@bobwall8021
@bobwall8021 Год назад
I think if they fix IG hitboxes he will be balanced, but like the down special having a 10 mile radius in a sphere around him and his up air, even just being one fist having a 10 ft high, 20 ft wide hitbox is nuts. Also his grab comes out way too fast, it's like just as fast as jake and taz's eat, but with wayyyyy more safe because of the range. Also that side rocket boot has an absolutely massive hitbox too.
@z00ko
@z00ko Год назад
Skill issue. His down special is hella telegraphed, dodge out and wait or punish before he lands. His grab is slow with hella whiff recovery. Legit git gud, and his uair is TRASH now. One dodge and he’s a sitting duck with half of his fuel and no multi hit anymore. If you struggle against that move, you’re actually tragically not good. In high elo, you don’t hit players with that move anymore, top 300 player here, I’ve completely stopped using it, it’ll get you killed
@bobwall8021
@bobwall8021 Год назад
@@z00ko Good for you, that's what our boy nakat was saying. He isn't that good in the top 10% of play. But characters like IG are gonna drive everyone away, he's too easy to succeed with and if you don't learn how to deal with his bullshit he's a nightmare. If they fix his hitboxes they might be able to buff him so the skilled IG players can contend in higher lvls and the casuals can go two matches without getting trashed by a giant
@bobwall8021
@bobwall8021 Год назад
@@z00ko Also I ran into a giant yesterday who was short hopping the down special to stop me from approaching, idk if it was lag but it was near instant and really effective
@lament8719
@lament8719 Год назад
I've been on the Steven train way before people placed him this high
@escapebeyond110
@escapebeyond110 Год назад
Interesting to see your opinion at super high rank but where I am (30k) iron giant, superman really suck and more consistent heroes like Finn and Jake dominate
@JoshDoes
@JoshDoes Год назад
I shat on every single iron giant in solos with batman he cant escape me but in duos he had grey health perks and wouldnt die.
@domino5289
@domino5289 Год назад
is Morty better 1v1 or 2v2?
@hunterzilla9385
@hunterzilla9385 Год назад
"a little bit of meta changes" bugs and velma in s tier:
@chungboislim2061
@chungboislim2061 Год назад
Actually they are in tiers above S tier called their names respectively. Curious how the man who uses the 3rd best character has made 2 tiers above S. What a guy.
@McLovin-Chan
@McLovin-Chan Год назад
@@chungboislim2061 buggs is just a step above everyone else. Velma, I’m not so sure about, but Buggs is just broken as hell
@chungboislim2061
@chungboislim2061 Год назад
@@McLovin-Chan Bugs seems like the best character. I wouldn't personally put him in his own tier though. I think something like that is reserved for a character that should be banned (Meta Knight in Brawl for example).
@McLovin-Chan
@McLovin-Chan Год назад
@@chungboislim2061 actually, you’re right, but I guess voids doing that to show people that he is undisputed best character in the game
@chungboislim2061
@chungboislim2061 Год назад
@@McLovin-Chan Yeah, fair enough.
@ExileOfSand
@ExileOfSand Год назад
Its nice to see Iron Giant starting to be recognized
@hessy4766
@hessy4766 Год назад
He was always recognized tho people been complaining about him day 1
@chungboislim2061
@chungboislim2061 Год назад
@@hessy4766 Okay semantic douche. From my experience, most people have thought he was bad just based on being big. It's not a matter of how much you like the matchup, it's a question of good he is.
@wojak_b-r7782
@wojak_b-r7782 Год назад
I think shaggy should be with WW and batman
@alecheim3315
@alecheim3315 Год назад
What's the morty passive?
@nagacha42
@nagacha42 Год назад
Reindog seems way stronger than his placement if we’re being honest I started playing him a few days ago and it’s easy getting wins, his only issue is his spiking is difficult, but playing keep away and zoning out is so easy, completely shutting down Batman’s batarang and grapple And I’ve played both level 3 Finn’s or level 32 superman and I don’t really have too much difficult when I’m playing reindog, his dot damage is crazy and again playing keep away is so easy and fun ;) Definitely not top tier or broken but maybe a tier up, higher than Batman maybe Just my thoughts as an average reindog main I’m not a pro player just a dude who plays after work
@JewTube001
@JewTube001 Год назад
velma is better than rendog in every way, so there's just no reason to touch him if all you care about is winning games. i think this is why most players dismiss him so easily.
@z00ko
@z00ko Год назад
Rein is downplayed because he’s not well represented. He’s a better support than the rest of the cast. Once bugs is nerfed & Tom, he’ll be the best character in the game. People just suck
@z00ko
@z00ko Год назад
@@JewTube001 Velma has a strong kit sure, but she’s not better than rein top 300 player here. Velma can be exposed, she’s just overhyped & optimized early. Everyone knows how to play her due to seeing good play with her. No one knows about reins pressure, dmg, corner carry, GODTIER movement, and set play/combo dmg. The player base majority (90%) isn’t good. That character is getting outshined by what’s known by the majority, not for actually being worse than her. And it’ll be shown whenever they overnerf Velma again
@nagacha42
@nagacha42 Год назад
@@z00ko yeah reindog is good and I have run into a couple other reindogs and they were trash tbh and reindog is way better than I think anyone realizes yet, hopefully soon they’ll see it
@anarchyd2
@anarchyd2 Год назад
what is morty’s passive?
@samk8005
@samk8005 Год назад
Tier lists in 2030: SSS++ SSS+ SSS SS S+ S S-
@chungboislim2061
@chungboislim2061 Год назад
lmao, actually it's just an extra S tier for each characters better than whoever Void mains.
@JoshDoes
@JoshDoes Год назад
Completely agree, I called that morty would be like B tier if S+ wasn't a thing. so A basically
@thehaymaker604isaac4
@thehaymaker604isaac4 Год назад
Great choices
@havingbadluck2617
@havingbadluck2617 Год назад
Are u going live on Twitch today bro @void
@isquadwipe
@isquadwipe Год назад
Love when void uploads
@JoshDoes
@JoshDoes Год назад
I was calling Morty being B tier if s+ wasn't a thing. but he is probably A tier imo some of his attacks are very slow and have tons of output delay. The initial speed and range of his attacks good however.
@Yee.Naaldlooshii
@Yee.Naaldlooshii Год назад
Bugs is in the SS?
@Kharsh0
@Kharsh0 Год назад
I just started playing this game 4 days ago and already have shaggy up to level 23. I’m almost averaging about 2 ring outs a game, 327 matches played 547 ring outs 89,000 damage. All of this just with shaggy.
@RenzZlax
@RenzZlax Год назад
Whats morty’s passive?
@gamist8166
@gamist8166 Год назад
Garnet looks so interesting but I play Tom, Jake, and Morty (all lvl 15+) and Garnet just only has 2 good moves it feels like, with 0 combo potential. Unlucky, but cool to think about for the future when she gets help
@z00ko
@z00ko Год назад
She has a lot of combo potential and she is a di read/set play character. Learn the character, she’ll be overtuned after buffs💀
@ReidPlayingGames
@ReidPlayingGames Год назад
You can’t challenge like half her kit lmao
@johnathangee1161
@johnathangee1161 Год назад
@@ReidPlayingGames her kit is ass and only thing she really has is armor ... Armor every single time
@deantebritton
@deantebritton Год назад
Why are tanks like superman and superwoman having dodges and frame data that mimics assassins
@nxcyer
@nxcyer Год назад
I main Steven, and I feel as though he could use a buff since he only has two or three moves that consistently ring out. Maybe have some of his wind up moves reduced in the time that you have to hold them for. I also wish Steven was his older self just so that he could have slightly longer reach, because that's something he is definitely lacking. I feel as though wonder woman never dies, I got three stocked when my brother was playing against me with her, and then we switched characters and the exact opposite happened. She, like you said has good hitboxes, and doesnt die early, EVER.
@user-dy9nr9yg4o
@user-dy9nr9yg4o Год назад
In 1s or 2s because 2s Steven is excellent.
@B.27y
@B.27y Год назад
I Lost to Bugs twice even tho I played better than my opponent so I started playing him and I am currently like 30:0 Its very fun to play broken characters
@TreyDoe
@TreyDoe Год назад
People keep complaining about Finn but Bugs has been OP since the game came out
@Xerolyst
@Xerolyst Год назад
Bugs isn’t broken we as a gaming community need to take that away from our vocabulary I prefer the word balanced
@chungboislim2061
@chungboislim2061 Год назад
@@Xerolyst People like you have made satirical shows not even funny anymore because of how surreal society has become.
@Xerolyst
@Xerolyst Год назад
@@chungboislim2061 sounds personal
@z00ko
@z00ko Год назад
@@chungboislim2061 😂😂
@sotis1190
@sotis1190 Год назад
What about solos?
@Pok3fan1995
@Pok3fan1995 Год назад
Thank you for believing in us Steven mains 🙏
@claytonroberson4565
@claytonroberson4565 Год назад
I agree with him with everything except iron giant. I body that big body hit box! I’m a Finn main
@PZMKSD
@PZMKSD Год назад
I hope taz gets good buffs i main him and I think I do pretty well but some matchups are super cursed imao, super mans keep down throwing me at 60 😭😭
@igoldenknight2169
@igoldenknight2169 Год назад
I play Morty, Shaggy and Harley. Sometimes Jake. And they all A tier lol
@pope777
@pope777 Год назад
iron giant has been great since launch they can’t stop him
@fupalover
@fupalover Год назад
Giant benefits from the same thing Steve does. People don't play vs them properly.
@z00ko
@z00ko Год назад
Facts
@derektordca
@derektordca Год назад
True, people rate steven low because their only excuse is nobody plays him
@sw214
@sw214 Год назад
Arya got buffed?
@z00ko
@z00ko Год назад
They could of added 3 perks (and adjust one) in this game to fix all these issues “low skills” complain about. Status resistance (1 stack -30%, 2 stack -50%) Losing faith (when you dodge an opponents attack you can add 10% to their cooldown, 2 stack 15%) Crushing miss (after dodging an attack you add 4-6 added frames of whiff recovery) Lastly, sturdy dodger should be any dodge of projectile gives you armor for 2 seconds, 2 stack 5 seconds. (Hard counter Batman, bug, Velma, rein, tom frame traps) Velma should still have the 75% for 8 seconds but make it to where her cooldown for the move doesn’t start until after the big head (duration of move) is up. Iron giant should have bolts reworked (former top 300). Make the duration 2 seconds but have the cooldown cut in half. So that way he’s not like a walking invulnerable tank for 8 seconds against the noobs who don’t know better, and you can still use it in high elo to escape combos or use for getting back to ground or to whiff purposely and bolts to punish their punish. This way bolts is still good, but not inherently broken against players who don’t know the matchup and complain. And it’ll be easier to run away from bolts for the noobs who still run away from bolts (not the correct way to play against him). These changes would have made a lot of characters fun & viable, made the perk system kept alive and not constantly getting gutted and becoming more useless after every patch. And created a perk that incentivizes skill play to counter broken team comps. Literally Velma iron giant wouldn’t be a thing that dominated if they added in the Losing Faith perk. Simply dodge her words, dodge ig, and they have added cooldown 10% time. Bugs wouldn’t be broken if you could make him have more whiff recovery frames from dodging his attack, or his projectile frame traps gone with a simple buff to sturdy dodger. Status resistance to counter the ice to beat you meta, instead of GUTTING the perk. These devs have not been able to get this game right, and it’s showing. Like NAKAT said, this will be a loop until the end of this game. Because players complain, characters and perks gets nerf, game gets boring, move onto the next meta, complain, nerf, move on, until no one’s fun and everything is boring and stale and simple with no skill play or skill gap, or matchup knowledge needed. Players drag a game down with their lack of skill, devs need to stop listening to loud mouths who really aren’t making noise in the game with their skill
@myguy9320
@myguy9320 Год назад
I think Garnet is pretty fun.
@Deefreeza
@Deefreeza Год назад
Tom and jerry have this glitch where i cant use jerry whatsoever until i die
@MrJengo22
@MrJengo22 Год назад
My iron brethren 😌😌😌😌😌. Alot of people are still in denial of how insane iron is in 2v2 🤣
@chungboislim2061
@chungboislim2061 Год назад
Don't worry, now that a streamer said so they'll have no choice but to parrot his noises. The same way the are repeating the old FGC dogma that big characters are always low tier.
@ImperviouslyGaming
@ImperviouslyGaming Год назад
What's crazy is none of this matter cause I can't play one game without being orange 2 bar connection.. been like this for over a week now.. every single game pmuch.. I live in colorado and have anywhere from 1000 internet speed. The first week or 2 I played the game and had no lag, this game is unplayable now.. how are other people playing without lag?
@z00ko
@z00ko Год назад
It’s not just you, it’s this game’s servers and connection. Hoping after beta it’s more stable. Even in pro tourneys… lag is awful
@FrostedZaibatsu
@FrostedZaibatsu Год назад
Morty doesnt need help at all. Character has so much utility from what ive seen. He's fine
@kato093
@kato093 Год назад
He needs the hitboxes fixed. Finn and Jake for example hit BEFORE the attack animation and have twice the range than the animation , Morty's attacks hot after the animation and miss while going throu opponents all the time.
@FrostedZaibatsu
@FrostedZaibatsu Год назад
@@kato093 Thoses arent buff but bug fixes. That is not what im talking about
@kato093
@kato093 Год назад
@@FrostedZaibatsu it's not bugs. It's shit hitboxes. In the patch notes they would be noted as "buffs" as any changes to hitboxes are. Btw i would also lower the cooldown on either the charged blaster shot or the grenades, because without perks he is pretty fkn bad. That's bad balance. They even nerfed 2 perks BECAUSE of Morty. But playing him with his broken shit hitboxes without the perk is really painful. Especially going against tom and Jerry and bugs, who have super quick cooldowns for much stronger attacks. Also his passive isn't even active yet.... This is just embarrassing honestly. This game should be relaunched in 6 months. It's not ready for launch. It feels like an alpha, not even a beta. It seriously lacks a roster, it's bugged to hell (the main menu didn't even work until last patch ffs), the hitbxoes and hurtboxes are Starlight up broken, the netcode is PATHETIC, it's the laggiest game I've played in years, especially NOW. No idea why but the game lags soooo bad.
@toshiro6000
@toshiro6000 Год назад
Iron giant is a noob crusher in 2's, he steam rolls casuals but doesn't perform well against a team that knows what they're doing. If you are losing to iron giant in 1s trust me it's not because he's a strong character, its 100% a skill issue.
@LiveLoveLearnElevate
@LiveLoveLearnElevate Год назад
Top 400k player as of rn and top 30k with Harley and I still lose to really good iron giants as I can rarely kill them with their tank ability and I lose pretty often to Arya but besides that I usually win
@z00ko
@z00ko Год назад
FACTSSSSSSS!!!!
@z00ko
@z00ko Год назад
@@LiveLoveLearnElevate again, that’s still hella low. It’s a skill issue, there’s a reason you’re top 30k. You don’t have matchup knowledge and you lose against characters you should easily beat. Top 1-2k Harley’s destroy iron giant, they can’t even play the game with 75/25’s. Hate to say it but, skill issue. Get better, learn the matchup and learn your character. You’ll reap the benefits in winning games you should win
@Kuroyamitv
@Kuroyamitv Год назад
I’m still waiting for the Tom & Jerry guide.
@platonicbuu7454
@platonicbuu7454 Год назад
if you can get the momentum, then, yes. yes, he is. If you get jumped while still loading in, your first life is pretty much a forfeit.
@Luke.1779
@Luke.1779 Год назад
are you replying to something he said in the video 😂
@MustySoldier
@MustySoldier Год назад
You definitely gotta move shaggy and make up Lebron and stark not keeping up
@chungboislim2061
@chungboislim2061 Год назад
Shaggy and Finn?
@GATESOFKELL
@GATESOFKELL Год назад
After fighting some really good assassins last night, I agree with the devs that we shouldn't overbuff them lmao. Those characters can be so insane when piloted by good players, and still have good "fuck neutral" tools too.
@LiveLoveLearnElevate
@LiveLoveLearnElevate Год назад
lol they still gotta make Harley a little faster there’s no reason Morty should be faster then me and he’s a bruiser
@JewTube001
@JewTube001 Год назад
@@LiveLoveLearnElevate outside of the hammer move he's not really a bruiser. i'd say he's a support since he has a lot of tricks that go on cooldown and don't kill very well. a lot like steven
@z00ko
@z00ko Год назад
Perfectly said! They’re busted just outshined by bugs
@z00ko
@z00ko Год назад
@@LiveLoveLearnElevate Morty doesn’t have attack priority like she does, and combo dmg and HELLA EARLY KILLS like she does
@claytonroberson4565
@claytonroberson4565 Год назад
Are you guys hearing yourself? Harley Quinn, the crazy ass clown woman shows up to battle as a support like Steven!! “I’m here to help my friends “ I don’t think so guys….
@monkey-with-the-drip5296
@monkey-with-the-drip5296 Год назад
Why bugs is so high in the Tier. He's the *Cheese king* 👏
@MrPayPay-
@MrPayPay- Год назад
Reindog is a good boy
@aholafungi
@aholafungi Год назад
Velma doesn’t have a lot of survivability??? Did I just hear that???
@smokeyjoe6059
@smokeyjoe6059 Год назад
She used to be tougher.
@aholafungi
@aholafungi Год назад
@@smokeyjoe6059 she’s still tough. and then players add things like kryptonian skin on her. her recovery ability is more than fine, even at higher damage levels. You can smack Velma around all game and not kill her. coming from someone that plays her a lot.
@JesusiSKing250
@JesusiSKing250 Год назад
Mortys arm jab hotbox isn’t right and has to be real close for it to have any effect
@JewTube001
@JewTube001 Год назад
he's a bad brawler. only thing making him better than taz are the utilities he brings to teamfights.
@JesusiSKing250
@JesusiSKing250 Год назад
@@JewTube001 fr tho. I actually got a little more comfortable using him and his skill set and have been winning so far against pretty skilled people in 1v1. He has his downs but his ups are starting to show, he needs a buff tho fr
@achia9143
@achia9143 Год назад
Is finn not good? I ll still play him i enjoy him a lot but i m curious why is he not higher up
@chungboislim2061
@chungboislim2061 Год назад
He was nerfed recently I guess is his reasoning.
@chungboislim2061
@chungboislim2061 Год назад
But Iron Giant was nerfed for the last 2 patches and Void moved him from 5th worst to 6th best, so I'm surprised he doesn't consider Finn in the 'Finn Tier'. Right above the 'Bugs Tier', which is above the 'Velma Tier', which is above S Tier which coincidentally starts at the character he uses.
@l-HEAVY-SNIPER-l
@l-HEAVY-SNIPER-l Год назад
i lost 2-1 in 2v2’s today to a guy who i shlt u not spammed 20 shaggy kicks in the span of 15 seconds and calls me trash😂😂 always the dudes with training wheels
@nagacha42
@nagacha42 Год назад
You’re might be trash if you lost to just shaggy kicks haha
@eagletears945
@eagletears945 Год назад
Nah Shaggy’s Kick is busted and the fact you can just spam it like that is kind of insane lol
@l-HEAVY-SNIPER-l
@l-HEAVY-SNIPER-l Год назад
@@eagletears945 thank you that’s what im saying, i even asked him if he wanted to 1v1 he said that i already lost in 2v2’s even tho his teammate carried him and just kept calling me trash😂 needless to say bro knew what would’ve happened
@smokeyjoe6059
@smokeyjoe6059 Год назад
I fought a guy who Shaggy Kicked left and right *ALL* match on Trophy's E.D.G.E. 2. I even hit him a few times, just to see if he'd change tactics... Nope. My teammate got caught a few times (as did I), and they eventually won the match. 🤷🏾‍♂️
@dannygontu5102
@dannygontu5102 Год назад
people sleeping on Reindog tho fr. Dude is clutch in 2's, especially teamed up with Wonder Woman its the most disgusting thing you could do
@siahhk2097
@siahhk2097 Год назад
U have to use reindog fr before u misplace him I beat bugs consistently on 1s
@peteyquills
@peteyquills Год назад
I cant wait to see how they buff Garnet. I crack heads with her.
@denn7s
@denn7s Год назад
probably cause you play at low level with noobs
@z00ko
@z00ko Год назад
@@denn7s probably because he’s not the 90% of the player base who sucks and knows nothing about their character or the games mechanics or matchup knowledge needed to win. Garnet is really good. If you haven’t been in high elo in 1’s or 2’s. High elo is 10k or lower worldwide (not your character ranking, but worldwide ranking) Then you have no idea how good she is. My garnet friend will dust you with any character you play. People just don’t know how to play her
@dave_by_day7632
@dave_by_day7632 Год назад
Steven in S tier surprises me, I've had some good games with him but seems hard to stay consistent with him. Does anyone know a really good Steven on RU-vid to follow
@wall0484
@wall0484 Год назад
yo
@KmchiMf
@KmchiMf Год назад
ain’t no way you still think velma is better than Tom and jerry after all these nerfs
@z00ko
@z00ko Год назад
He’s downplaying because he knows his character up next on the nerf chopping block. Once these characters like bugs and Velma get nerfed and the majority of the player base gets off them, they’ll go to the next best thing, and people will cry for nerds on his character as well. Let’s face it t&j isn’t hard to play anymore. EVERYONE knows his bs now
@sagetactics7337
@sagetactics7337 Год назад
Honestly jake should be put up in S tier cause his reach and attack moves are really fast and he’s a bruiser so he takes a lot of damage and deals a lot of damage.
@z00ko
@z00ko Год назад
He’s top 3 in the game. You can’t touch him, he’s slept on. He’s dominating 1’s and 2’s, he can’t be punish and he’s safe all the time. You only hit a Jake if he makes a mistake
@sagetactics7337
@sagetactics7337 Год назад
@@z00ko facts he’s a underdog 🤣
@d_dayne_e
@d_dayne_e Год назад
idk how to play against iron giant at all. He gets that big aoe around him where u cant hit him, all of his attacks hit like 5 times and take up the entire stage in doubles
@z00ko
@z00ko Год назад
I would love to type a long essay to help you out but I’ve done that like 10 times already, go lab. Or find my comments in these comment sections
@smokeyjoe6059
@smokeyjoe6059 Год назад
Superman can carry IG off the stage and cheese him. Force him waste his flight, and his recovery becomes worse than Little Mac.
@ExOTiC1234
@ExOTiC1234 Год назад
Reindog is so underrated. 100% he should be where Steven is.
@chungboislim2061
@chungboislim2061 Год назад
Definitely think this list underrates him. That's my only disagreement really other than the way he categorizes tiers. "My character is third best in the game, gotta make 2 tiers above him"
@doobiedoo3302
@doobiedoo3302 Год назад
im glad u dont downplay bugs like it seems everyone is doing. 😁
@Macex107
@Macex107 Год назад
No one’s downplaying bugs 💀💀💀
@chungboislim2061
@chungboislim2061 Год назад
The skull emoji is really gay, but I agree. I haven't heard anybody say anything other than how he's the best.
@johnathangee1161
@johnathangee1161 Год назад
@@chungboislim2061 how is a skull emoji gay
@chungboislim2061
@chungboislim2061 Год назад
@@johnathangee1161 I guess i prefer words and dont really know what it means
@DoctorCrimson
@DoctorCrimson Год назад
Morty top tier!
@geckoztom
@geckoztom Год назад
Velma + Morty is fun, you can put an Ufo under your police car :D !!
@jaygalvan24
@jaygalvan24 Год назад
I’m down bad as a lebron main
@vexyi4363
@vexyi4363 Год назад
I feel like Tom and jerry are a big gamble bc if I’m lagging I can’t do shit
@PsychicCoconut
@PsychicCoconut Год назад
I have stomped every lvl 20 Iron giant I've come across with Jake, must be a match up thing.
@SkitZiee
@SkitZiee Год назад
Yea u can zone him out pretty well but other characters feels like a pain
@chungboislim2061
@chungboislim2061 Год назад
in 1v1? Because that's kind of irrelevant as he is far worse in that format.
@PsychicCoconut
@PsychicCoconut Год назад
@@chungboislim2061 1s and 2s.
@z00ko
@z00ko Год назад
He’s easily beaten people who struggle against him have a skill issue
@NGeeTee
@NGeeTee Год назад
From a top 500 Ig main he has a lot of bad matchups that being one of the worst
@aja3longhorn375
@aja3longhorn375 Год назад
Shaggy is way closer to S than A
@z00ko
@z00ko Год назад
Factual
@progabeplayz5697
@progabeplayz5697 Год назад
If super man is An A tier I think Tom and jerry should be as S+ or SS
@chungboislim2061
@chungboislim2061 Год назад
Void will never admit his character is broken even if that means inventing tiers above S.
@superdragonsunshine
@superdragonsunshine Год назад
I’m really surprised by your morty placement. He seems busted and I think he’s gonna get better as people get nice with his trickshots. Totally agree with Finn though, those nerfs really slammed him. Hard to get kills now.
@z00ko
@z00ko Год назад
Lol😂😂😂 he has 2 hit kill confirms that kill tanks 85+. Nahh man, skill issue
@givemeyourroof3789
@givemeyourroof3789 Год назад
i would put shaggy between A+ and S heavy hitting moves with armour can do so much to the opposing team and the amp his sandwich gets when he is in rage can be annoying to deal with
@IjoyI
@IjoyI Год назад
and iron giant being that high is craaaaaaaaazy i just dont see it
@chungboislim2061
@chungboislim2061 Год назад
The game developers said he has abnormally high winrates at all skill levels. I guess your old FGC dogma that big=bad blinds you to what can be statistically demonstrated or observed by merely playing the game.
@derektordca
@derektordca Год назад
Finally, someone who has common sense and doesn't rank Steven low because nobody plays him
@deadcats6083
@deadcats6083 Год назад
Tier inflation lol.
@robinsoncespedes3672
@robinsoncespedes3672 Год назад
lets gooo
@SixSev215
@SixSev215 Год назад
Iron giant and bugs bunny together is broken. People that use iron giant after losing are the biggest virgins.
@Fatpacman
@Fatpacman Год назад
My shaggy propaganda is gonna go crazy
@chrisb8698
@chrisb8698 Год назад
I think Steven goes just behind Batman at best. Shaggy is much better than people realize rn.
@GATESOFKELL
@GATESOFKELL Год назад
I think the problem with Shaggy is that his kit can make him pretty predictable. At most skill levels, being predictable isn't an issue for him, because people will just get hit. And with a little effort, Shaggy's can start mixing up their playstyles and definitely become threats. But I think for someone at Void's skill level, being predictable really harms the character, and as Void mentioned, the meta also hurts him rn too. But the character is still insane and will definitely go up if the meta develops in the right way.
@Anthonycha
@Anthonycha Год назад
Shaggys better in 1s than he is in 2s. I feel like in 2s it’s a lot easier to zone him out
@OfLastingThunder
@OfLastingThunder Год назад
@@Anthonycha Wrong.
@Xerolyst
@Xerolyst Год назад
I don’t prefer the words S tier or overpowered I think we should all call it balanced
@chungboislim2061
@chungboislim2061 Год назад
wat
@Za_Phantom
@Za_Phantom Год назад
My problems with Harley is that it often feels like her hitboxes have low priority so trying to get hits and conversions in scrambles just feels like a losing fight, often getting out traded and dying early. And with how good dodging is, getting a clean hit is also seldom in a game plan. So between getting boxed out by so many characters with better hit boxes, her kill potential being circumstancial/being worse than a lot of characters, and not being a great (she's not terrible at it tho) scrambler, It makes her pretty mid compared to the cast honestly. That's just my two cents though.
@IjoyI
@IjoyI Год назад
the jake downplaying goes crazy in peoples tier lists i understand the king of mid at the top of a but jake is no where near that bad same with harley really good characters getting hard downplayed
@aholafungi
@aholafungi Год назад
Jake and Harley are under-looked, not because they’re bad, but there are better characters. Jake is king of zoning. And Harley can apply some crazy pressure, especially in 2v2’s
@Sw44nK
@Sw44nK Год назад
Iron giant is dead according to my friend who mains him
@z00ko
@z00ko Год назад
Taking away multi hit, gutting his bolts. In high elo hes god awful now
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