@@hyoxxii 100% I usually refer to it as the grey market. Which is a term I'm more familiar with. Anyways I've actually been shopping around for a 3RS and grey market prices are ludicrous. I came across 2-3 fairly close to me listed in between 480 - 580 ish thousand $ CAD. Which is stupid. Although it's either that or potentially have my local dealer tell me I'll need spend at least a million $ (probably more) tbh in cars that I don't want just to get the one I do want. Ahh, first world problems haha.
@@kevinkenny5663 It’s like EBay just for Cars. So people who got their Porsche Gt3 Rs can sell it to you through a car dealership which is not officially Porsche for example. But the problem is people sell it for double the price they paid themselves directly from Porsche. It’s like with a Rolex. You can buy it from Rolex directly but you gotta wait 2-3 years or you buy it from a watch dealer without a waiting list but you pay significantly more.
@@JesusIsAlphaOmega001 Because poor people who cant even buy any car, love to think people who buy expensive things, are fools and reckless with their money. Love to find flaws in others to justify their own lives.
@@leerblizzz4688you clearly don’t understand how supply and demand works if you bring it in situations like this. If less tomatoes are in market prices will go high, seems like that’s not the problem for the rich because people buy cars in $3M range. Even scarcity doesn’t fit here, why: Matt Watson recently waited for the same car for few months and he took it home few days back. He has never bought 10 Porsches not even 5 in his life.
Supply and demand, these vehicles are sold in very limited quantities so that it appreciates in value over time. And I’m sure there are hella richer and more connected people than that guy wanting to buy it. Like Jay Leno
Obviously, you probably never drove any Porsche and you don't understand a passion for perfection?? LOL. There's a reason they cost that much, have high demand and the resale value is astronomical.
True but in a sense they already got the lifetime value outta that guy. If they kept things 100 with him the chance of him buying 8 more cars from them was rather low and would likely take over a decade. Whereas here even if they burned the bridge they sold him more cars than he likely would’ve ever bought all at once
@@Noadvantage246 he bought 8 Porsches. The GT3RS is a great car, i would like to believe that from there on out he would of probably moved up to buy another Porsche either way, not a Macan or Cayenne but actually higher Models like the Turbo S or the GT2RS.
@@IReallyLikeCoffee Yeah but realize from a dealers perspective it’s better to sell more of the low end models because the high end ones are hard even for the dealers to get and will literally sell themselves
Whats going on here is that they are selling a desirable quality product that people actually want to buy. Price is no problem. The problem is there are only so many cars, and far too many millionaires.
@@captain_context9991 You missed the entire point of this comment. He was making reference to the fact that "Ferrari" has been using this exact sales technique for years, requiring people to buy several cars they don't want before they can get on the wait-list for the one they do want. Now you know.
@@dynomantar9733 No, no, no... This is mostly American BS and American myth and fairytale. Nobody is gonna "force you" to buy things you dont want. But this whole process is extremely difficult for Americans to understand... MANY THINGS are extremely difficult to explain to americans. Such as climate change, evolution and healthcare. And that their F-22 is a failure, and no... US police are NOT "highly trained"... I could go on and on. The thing Americans simply WILL NOT understand, is that if Ferrari are making 500 units, or 499, then that is a symbolic thing they have always done to always sell fewer cars than the demand. This is unthinkable for the American corporate structure. What, NOT selling a product to a paying customer?? Imagine if Ford really had bought Ferrari back in the 1960s. There would be entrylevel Ferraris based on Fords, the Italian link would be fazed out, and Ferrari would today be just a yellow sticker they put on "Premium" Fords. Which is all thats left of the Shelby name and logo. So... If they are making only 500, or even 1000 cars, but 5000 people WANT them, well then there arent going to be enough cars, are there. Its pretty simple math. So to be a "Prefieri" As Italians call it, you have to be a loyal customer of the brand. And have a great relationship with the dealership. Simple, isnt it. There is no specific list of stuff they "make you" buy. This is an American misconception. If the dealership doesn't like you, or thinks you are an unpleasant grifter, or think you just want to flip it for quick money, well then they are WELL within their rights to NOT sell you a god damn car. Ford did the same thing, actually even worse, with the Ford GT.
The client is a fool. As a self-made millionaire, I've learned to trust no-one, NO-ONE; always get in in writing, with break clauses, costs, timelines and penalties. If they won't give you that; just walk away.
Most of these dealers aren't even the real decision makers, the only thing they can do is be the one to call a client if someone is trying to sell theirs at a great deal. It's usually guys a bit higher up that choose who to allocate those special cars to.
@@daveam3r I'm not sure that's the case though, when you represent a brand as a franchise or whatever, there are certain things you must adhere to such as guidelines, the overall rules, certain aspects of their operations etc... otherwise their agreement with Porsche can be terminated regardless of if they're privately owned or not.
Whats the lie? Just because people dont understand this, doesnt make this a lie. People who are porsche collectors. People that have been on a list for years.. THEY get to buy the cars first. If they only make 500 cars, then guess what, you arent on the list, then you arent on the list. Money is not the issue. They all got money.
Not sure where you getting the info from gt3 rs is not that limited you start with. This idiot is lying through his teeth, 10 cars and then finally no Guarantee. What will be next time 50 cars and still no guarantee?? Get out of here man if you really believe this BS.
@@jacobvanderhooft2188 yes and the dealer doesent get to pick the manufacturer TELLS them what they will stock on the floor even if its a model of a successfull line that no one wants the manufacturer uses the floorplan contract to offload bad vehicles onto the dealer the dealer then either has to try and flip those unwanted cars onto customers or getcustomers to buy extra cars like in the video just to recoup what there loosing on having a brown lamborghini with pink interior in stock yes this happens manufacturers give beyond zero fucks about the customers
It's the same at almost every other high end dealership. Say you have two douchebags. One buys a Porsche every year, often the top end with bells and whistles. Maybe he buys a couple extra for staff bonuses or his shitty kids. Then you have douchebag two. He has one Porsche that he trades in every other year, then buys a few lower end models. Douchebag one is giving Porsche a million a year, douchebag two is giving them 250k. They make 10 gt3's a year(no idea really but let's say). It's better to keep your extremely rich client happy every year rather than have a one off sale to make a guy happy. They sell products, this idiot bought them en masse.
Never believe a dealer. Call head office and ask them. They will tell you which dealers can or still have allocation. I could get information without being a buyer, therefore a serious buyer will get proper information.
In today's new car market? Right now I'm attempting to purchase vehicles for A hedge fund manager Who is slipping vehicles past Whatever they have to be slipped past in China to be sold there. Sounds like a pretty easy job right? It's not.. I'm in Canada and I'm on the waiting list for the new land cruiser at every Toyota dealership from gander Newfoundland to Victoria british Columbia. And I even had to register with Toyota Canada.. But the second I tried to grab more than one. They're gonna slam the breaks on me I know it.
I've worked in the industry for over a decade and I'm in Canada not in the United States. I'm on a pre-registered list for the new land cruiser. I can't even give a deposit from. Gander Newfound to Victoria british Columbia. And I'm also registered with Toyota Canada. I need at least 5 extended Cadillac diesel escalades. And when a sales person hears I've got a couple 1000 bucks for deposit. The rest payable on Delivery. So thanks for clearing up serious for me.
when i want to find out about a product i go to the source. when i called my advent calendar company, i didnt call their african office, i called straight to germany. to the town/city they started. to the help centre of origin. not some outsourced partner who decides to use indian oursourced call service with a predetermined script. common sense.
@@s..a893no one buys 8 cars during 2023 to get to an ordinary car like GT3 RS.. He is lying. 918 was special and the GT2rs was special but not 8 cars special
Bro was dumb. If this story is true at all. Its likely only half-true. Maybe he was a shady, grifting car flipper and they would rather sell the car to someone who is a friend of the dealership. There is more business in that.
Well, Ferrari’s don’t have the prestige a Porshe has, and also getting a Ferrari is not that much of a big deal if you have the money to spend. Owning a Porshe is not about having the money to afford it.
@@RA-fb5szFerrari is a more prestigious brand than Porsche, they're the most successful team in the pinnacle of motorsport racing, they have good amount victories at Le Mans as well. They don't cater into mass market products like Cayenne, Macan, Panamera, Taycan or Cayman/Boxster. And owning a Porsche literally requires lesser money than owning a Ferrari.
It's definitely true. Go to a dealer and try to buy a gt3 rs and see what happens. They probably won't even sell you a 911 turbo much less a gt3 rs as a first time walk in customer.
The problem is that Porsche only produces an extremely limited number of them each year. This means the car dealer gets the allocation from Porsche for 2-3 GT3s this year. The dealer now has to decide who he will sell it to. He has many long-term customers with countless purchases and then the person mentioned in the video comes forward who apparently has never bought a Porsche there. Of course, he first has to build up trust and loyalty, which countless other potential buyers have already done
The dealership finessed the shit outta him. I’m pretty sure u have to own a Porsche, Porsche watch and be a known client at your Porsche house. Then the chances are pretty high, that you can get one. What I don’t get is. A guy bought 8 Porsches instead of flying to Germany or contact a Porsche house in Germany and do business with them..
This is why you find an owner and offer them more than they paid. At least if they say yes, you actually get the car. No dealer BS. I’ve never bought from a dealer and I don’t think I will.
Yet RU-vidrs like Matt Watson from Carwow, who has never purchased a brand new Porsche before, get a location and recently took delivery of he’s GT3 RS.
@@flatsix245true this is the kinda of stuff that only Ferrari does for the more limited edition. Didn't heard Porsche,Pagani,Bugatti,Koenigsegg,Lamborghini,Mclaren they don't do this.
CarWow is very famous and influential on RU-vid. Companies don't wanna miss a big opportunity to Collab with a big social media influencer. The channel averages 1 million views per video....that is straight free marketing for any companies.
When I was a kid, our neighbour paid me to paint his porch out back. He gave me a bucket of brown paint and a brush and I went to work, though afterwards I had to let him know it was actually a mercedes, not a porch.
Biggest load of 💩 I've heard, 110 for 2 macans , 80 for the Cheyenne and say 200 for a couple of 911's......800k minimum for cars you don't even want 😂 NO CHANCE
800k to peasants like ourselves is mammoth money, but its chump change for more people than you could imagine. So much so. You've got people who will frivolously spend 10m on useless shit
Shmee said something similar, which is why he switched to Ferrari. He still has to play the game, but Ferrari is clear and upfront with how to get there. They honor the promise of “buy this and we will let you buy this other car”.
They didn’t deny it. There’s specific allocation. Put your deposit down and if there’s enough for you, you’ll get it. If not get will refund the deposit. Can’t sell what you don’t have.
@@Whateverpoopiepants well yes I worded my sentence a bit wrong what I meant was surely they can't deny the purchase of a vehicle AFTER YOY TOLD THEM they can get that vehicle after they bought 8 others...
@@its_only_karma7440 Yes they absolutely can. Unless there was a written contract. The legal term is “ an offer to treat “. I’m not sure this story is even believable to be honest though. It sounds like podcast self promotion nonsense to me.
Porsche only want the “famous” & “noble” to own their RS models.. they’re by invitation only for a reason. It also keeps their RS models relevant & high in value.. seems they’re so hard to get hold of.. regardless if you have the money or not. RU-vidrs have purchased RS models.. and some of them are barely old enough to shave.. so buying 10 models is absolute nonsense & just a stalling tactic as the dealer tried to make the hurdle to get one so hard.. he ignorantly expected the guy to back down & he didn’t. RS models are their flagship vehicle.. the way Porsche see it.. the people that drive them.. carry Porsches best face of makeup.
@@neeravreddy9360 lol… so anyone that’s an “enthusiast” can just order a RS yeah?… 😂🤦🏽♂️ stop talking nonsense. You have to have a platform or be somebody that’s credible to even be considered.
@@neeravreddy9360 yeah.. right.. find me one client that’s not a credible figure that owns one buddy. Someone who doesn’t have “presence” .. rolling into Porsche expressing your love for cars with 300k in your pocket isn’t enough to buy one. The CEO said what he needed too on camera for “equality” reasons as being a blatant snob on camera is bad for the companies image & most definitely their stock price. The proof of what types of people get these cars isn’t who’s on the waiting list.. it’s who takes delivery of them.
This is completely BS story buddy LOL, my neighbor went to the Porsche dealer and purchased his first Porsche. Guess what, it was a fully speced GT3 RS. Whos the moron saying you need to be famous to buy a GT3 RS?? LMFAO Even if this story was true it would have nothing to do with Porsche as a manufacture, the dealer would be making the decision to have practices like this, so making claims about what Porsche values as a company based on how their dealer conduct imaginary business is dumb lol. ANYONE can go to any Porsche dealer and spec out a GT3 and they will get you one. Please, I implore you to call a dealer and see for yourself. You really think Porsche would decline 200k+ in hopes that they can get the customer to spend 750k? So what? Only the obscenely rich can buy the GT3 RS? What a moronic business practice. And even if this wasn't BS, why wouldn't you just go to a different dealer? Have some common sense lmao
Similar story to the guy who was promised a Patek Phillipe Nautilus 5980/1R-001 if he built up a purchase history, over 18 months he purchased 3 watches and some jewellery, the promised Nautilus never arrived. The dealer kept stringing him along, when he bought the second watch the dealer knew they were loosing authorised dealer status and would not be able to deliver the promised watch, but that didn’t stop them from selling him a third watch and some jewellery.
Jesus Christ what’s all this bullshit nowadays rolex won’t let u buy a watch from there shop long waiting list now Porsche doing exact same thing what we all should do is stop buying there cars and it will soon hurt these dealerships blackmailing customers
You can go into a Rolex shop and buy a Rolex rn. Last year my neighbor went to a Porsche dealership and bought his first Porsche, a GT3RS. This video is BS
@@autozone5695i have a feeling this video is BS. Gt3rs in essence and super special not like it was a one in 50 which i understand but gt3 rs is surely porches bread and butter
I mean, he could’ve emailed a few other dealers…or even just find one a dealer already has due to someone backing out, that’s close to the spec he wanted. There’s always someone selling a brand new Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini, ford GT, or whatever else around here, regardless of purchase agreements signed to obtain said cars. Always.
Same thing happened to me last year, walked into Porsche Nottingham to spec up a GT3RS with the Wissach package, then I get this jumped up tosser telling me I can’t just walk in off the street & spec one of these!!🤔 After 20 mins of him saying I had to buy cars & then sell gem back to them when trade in time came round I finally lost my shit with him, told him to FO & went & bought a plot of land & built 5 5 bed houses which made me a lot of profit!!👍
I find this hard to believe. Just visited my first Porsche dealer with my nephew this weekend. I am not someone with the means to purchase a car from them. The sales rep was extremely polite and nice, showed us around and gave us a couple lanyards. So my first experience with Porsche was outstanding.
@@UnitedStates-p7q yeah and I don't think that you have to buy these many cars to get hand on GT3 RS instead of that I could buy one from dubai and import it would chose 95% cheaper lol
This absolutely not a true story. Anyone with that kind of money would know the first rule of any transaction like this would be to have it all in writing.
How exactly? At least with Ferrari, they allocate a car after having bought so many cars from them. Porsche just screws their vip customers by selling the car to whoever pays a huge dealer markup.
I think Porsche didn't manipulate him, but rather it's the salesperson. It's because the sales gets commisions when they sell a car and this is just a cheeky trick to get many cars sold.
After buying outright or financing 8 vehicles and creating sales and revenue and commissions for the sales guy and dealer, it is pretty pathetic that they couldn't or wouldn't do the guy a solid and secure a Gt3rs ..I'm pretty sure there are enough made 1 for atleast 1 dealer. Most likely they've lost a long term customer and future porsche enthusiast..if this really happened horrible on them!
When I hear someone say “We promise…” in a vehicle transaction, I want it in writing. If I was required to own 10 different vehicles prior, I would also want a qualification that states, “In the event that the promise cannot be fulfilled, all purchases made as a requirement will be refunded and the cars returned at the original agreed price”
Marc Mccan tried to get one too, finnaly he realized its too dificult and expensive in the traditional way and flipped his Lamborghini Urus for a gt3 rs with a reseller.
