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Is It Possible to Beat Kirby and the Forgotten Land Without Attacking? -Kirby Challenge 

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After years of attempting to beat Kirby games without jumping, it's high time we try to beat one without attacking. Can you beat Kirby and the Forgotten Land without attacking? Let's find out.
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@asheevee_
@asheevee_ 2 года назад
You can actually cut out one of the attacks here-- touching the shiny spot that spawns the target to get into the HAL room also spawns a Ranger pickup in front of the goal
@AlexSpy3DS
@AlexSpy3DS 2 года назад
oooooo
@amadojr3543
@amadojr3543 2 года назад
I have a theory on possibly getting zero attacks (if inhaling at dropped copy abilities don't count as attacking...(or if inhaling two different HATS don't count toward on getting a random copy ability)). That very early on, as soon as the first mini boss by inhaling the (dropped) copy abilities, it can give you a random chance of getting ice, and keep rolling until you get ice.
@Humblepie_WHAT
@Humblepie_WHAT 2 года назад
@@amadojr3543 The game only puts abilities you have already acquired into the randomization roulette. Meaning until you can get ice, it's impossible to get it through those means.
@amadojr3543
@amadojr3543 2 года назад
@@Humblepie_WHAT I didn't know. To me, it was a good idea though, I just didn't think that the game would lock you to the copy abilities that you already unlocked... I just wish it can be proven true or untrue,
@AlexSpy3DS
@AlexSpy3DS 2 года назад
@@Humblepie_WHAT But ability mixing allows you to get abilities early.
@AmalgamJiena
@AmalgamJiena 2 года назад
Its funny to think that kirby is the only series where the ENEMIES taking contact damage is a constant.
@jokerkirby7051
@jokerkirby7051 2 года назад
You didn’t have to restart from leongar every attempt. Letting elfilis ko you would spawn you before it and you would be able to pick up ice on the way.
@albirmsam9284
@albirmsam9284 2 года назад
Interesting thing that not many know about is that canceling ice block actually counts as a parry/dodge that lets you enter bullet time, it's just has a much smaller time frame (0.2 seconds i think).
@reallyannoyingguy6625
@reallyannoyingguy6625 2 года назад
Can confirm as an ice main myself.
@tuxedobird
@tuxedobird 2 года назад
@@reallyannoyingguy6625 Ice is the best ability, I’ve always loved the attacks and the skating, but in Forgotten Land they made it even better with the new freezing mechanic with the attack
@reallyannoyingguy6625
@reallyannoyingguy6625 2 года назад
@@tuxedobird This guy gets it. Tuxedobird, you are a gigachad, no question.
@SonicBlast4444
@SonicBlast4444 2 года назад
I actually abused the hell out of that parry as ice.
@ZorotheGallade
@ZorotheGallade 2 года назад
If moveset descriptions were still a thing that move would be called Time Freeze
@Cozy_Colin
@Cozy_Colin 2 года назад
I saw a lot of comments about this, so let me quickly clear the air: It isn't possible to get by this challenge without attacking, but yes, there is a way to do it by only attacking one time. When you reach the end of Rocky Rolling Roads and stand on that tree he showed, the bench on (I believe?) the left will spawn a Ranger essence, meaning one can negate the need to inhale an enemy. However, until there's a different way to figure out how to take out that target for the HAL room, this challenge is essentially able to only be done if one attack is used, aka the Ranger essence at the end of the level.
@darkriolu27
@darkriolu27 2 года назад
It is indeed possible to beat the game with these rules. You can get the invincibility candy all the way to Wild Frosty in Alivel Mall with well-timed dodge rolls, at least if you get bullet time off of the bombs that the Poppy Bros. Jrs. are throwing down. To make it even easier, you could also spawn Bandana Dee to stay behind and grab the candy, then teleport it to you so you get a headstart.
@th3bear01
@th3bear01 2 года назад
I was wondering if Bandana dee would work there, but i never did two player so i had no idea if you can still share them, does bullet time slow the timer too? Never would have thought about that. I know the small mall portion before the first boss has a ice essence so if you could make it that far without then the rest of the run is won
@LavaBidoof
@LavaBidoof Год назад
You really counting the mouthful attacks as not attacks?
@sinteleon
@sinteleon 8 месяцев назад
pretty sure if you just book it, you don't need the dodge rolls to begin with.
@zaku28
@zaku28 2 года назад
you can actually skip that first miniboss, Icay did it a while back. You need to bring the vending machine to the second area by setting up Mouthful Storage and pressing B right when Kirby finishes using the warp star. From here you can either squish the boss to kill it instantly (debatably an attack) or use it to clip out of the boss arena
@billie-ve_in_yourself6464
@billie-ve_in_yourself6464 2 года назад
If you change the rules to allowing the attack button but not to deal any damage that way, then you could potentially kill the second mini boss with the invincibility candy using the fire power. I do respect your rules however, major props for your commitment!
@squigglejam69
@squigglejam69 2 года назад
Nintendo : So Kirby is a game about jumping and attacking- CMeeCraft : No jump Nintendo : Noooo, thats not how you're supposed to play it! CMeeCraft : Also no attack Nintendo : NOOOO!
@bootortle
@bootortle 2 года назад
It makes sense that Ice is MVP It definitely got me through the "no damage" Waddle Dee challenges
@AngelofGrace96
@AngelofGrace96 2 года назад
omg that little laugh at 6:16 was so cute, I loved it :)
@seriousquil7161
@seriousquil7161 2 года назад
Actually you can dodge with the ice ability, just got perform by letting go of the guard button and tilting the control stick within the same range to trigger the slow down effect of a perfect dodge. It’s a lot more trickier and I wouldn’t recommend.
@The_Ice_Type_Specialist
@The_Ice_Type_Specialist 2 года назад
This was an awesome challenge idea. Could you turn this into a challenge series like with the no jump challenge
@Rubellit_
@Rubellit_ 2 года назад
Im fairly sure if you do something with the car at the ending part of where the first HAL room is, an ability bubble appears and you can get the ranger ability, saving 1 attack.
@DougBongos
@DougBongos 2 года назад
Seeing this, I am reminded about how I never realized blocking/dodging was a mechanic during my initial 100% playthrough, so when I told my friends how hard it was to outrun a lot of attacks for damageless they acted like I was crazy. Super cool that they added even more dynamic ways to use copy abilities than meets the eye!
@mistahl5350
@mistahl5350 2 года назад
I got to the end of the Ultimate Cup Z by the time I learned about the dodge slow down. I done it once by accident, thought it was lag and never tried it again until the last arena cup lol
@astralbirthvoid02
@astralbirthvoid02 2 года назад
"What killed the eldritch abonimation?" "..." THE ICE AGE! "
@roykooper902
@roykooper902 2 года назад
Major respect for beating the final fight under those restrictions.
@rocto8394
@rocto8394 2 года назад
To prevent a attack, you could use multiplayer to double the 'super kirby' time and defeat Frosty with no hits.
@rocto8394
@rocto8394 2 года назад
Please note that they do that method in the co-op (2 player) WR speedrun.
@ShursGarden
@ShursGarden 2 года назад
I personally wouldn't count the shooting the target as an attack, as you're not actually in combat. So really it's just "Find a way to get Ranger before Wild Frosty without using the copy ability" and you've beaten it without attacking
@theimaginator6365
@theimaginator6365 2 года назад
Congrats! Now you need to do forgo dreams in five days or less!
@ZorotheGallade
@ZorotheGallade 2 года назад
Ah yes, the Kirbo run. Defeating enemies not through violence but through forgiveness and the light of God.
@Vlyg11
@Vlyg11 2 года назад
im the only one who understand Ed the joke poor guy
@ConnorTheUndying
@ConnorTheUndying 2 года назад
Of course the foe that gives your unstoppable defense a run for its money... is the Ultimate Lifeform's overwhelming offense.
@MatthewJemilo
@MatthewJemilo 2 года назад
I haven't played a Kirby game in years but my god do your videos black hole my curiosity every time
@metalshadow2044
@metalshadow2044 2 года назад
Idk if this was mentioned yet or not but you can actually get cone to gigant edge without mouthful storage. If you stand on the slightly raised geometry right next to the ladder and then release mouthful towards the wall then jump inhale and with good timing jump again then cone attack
@teamawesomeness7137
@teamawesomeness7137 8 месяцев назад
I like how you shows pros and cons like with the minimum jump series
@AceJackWagon885
@AceJackWagon885 Год назад
You can dodge with Ice if you release gaurd while holding in a direction. It's more like the 2D dodges though.
@Filon73
@Filon73 2 года назад
You could technically don't use the first attack to get Ranger to enter the Hal Room, after you jump on the tree behind the end of the level should appear a Ranger Copy Essence, so you can get the ability without sucking anyone
@ianjohnson218
@ianjohnson218 2 года назад
I was kinda hoping that you’d use that easter egg with fleur tornado that happens when you spin
@shadeblackwolf1508
@shadeblackwolf1508 Год назад
Those two moves at the start, would have been unneeded if needle had a shield buff, cause then you can grab the free needle to get Frosty's ice... oh wait
@inaminute1826
@inaminute1826 2 года назад
I've said it before but I do say this pink little round man is quite humorous.
@someguywithatophat7599
@someguywithatophat7599 2 года назад
using the cone in that fight still should classify as attacking. like sure you could count it as attacking with less attacks. but you still attacked it-
@fireyasriel_
@fireyasriel_ Год назад
Ice ability my beloved
@Wyvern0nYouTube
@Wyvern0nYouTube 9 месяцев назад
I feel like needle had a massive missed opportunity to have a needle shield. It would have been incredible to just block away instead of beating up a bunch of dogs :(
@Bentijon
@Bentijon Год назад
It feels weird to see Kirby jump at this point, especially in a CmeeCraft video
@hussainalaiwi9270
@hussainalaiwi9270 Год назад
I love how this is the opposite from the other Kirby challenges here the combat is hard and the platforming is eazy And in the others the platforming is hard and the combat is eazy
@notabot567
@notabot567 2 года назад
The challenge can be done with 1 atack with getting ice on rocky rollin road, there no need to absorb the ranger, a ability essense appears(on one of the benches) when you climb the tree and go back down, and presto 1 less atack.
@sssamson1768
@sssamson1768 Год назад
Idea: no canabalism challenge, you can’t damage the type you are ,ie: fire can’t kill fire, ice can’t kill ice, etc.
@ultraforever
@ultraforever Год назад
But then he realized that if he uses Max level ice and blocks he can deal damage possibly well blocking and then he suddenly beats the entire game because that ability is so overpowered
@UnderMuncher
@UnderMuncher Год назад
that fecto gorgo fight wouldve scared me. It looks like he's biting at the screen
@jacobs5546
@jacobs5546 2 года назад
Why? I thought I was SO ORIGINAL doing a Suckless run, and you release this. I started this run long before you even announced you would be going back to Forgotten Land.
@StarBeam500
@StarBeam500 2 года назад
You actually don't need to kill the dog for the gun in stage 3. If you climb on the tree to reach the target a gun ability capsule will spawn in front of the waddle dee cage
@purehyper124
@purehyper124 2 года назад
Oh, a new challenge, and i think you did well covering what an attack is!
@thinkublu
@thinkublu Год назад
oh, i would've assumed both the ice block and the copy abilities were an attack going into this
@coreytaylor8151
@coreytaylor8151 2 года назад
I would love to see this challenge in other Kirby games. Robobot should be a bit easier since Ice won't be your only ability to use, as ESP and Leaf can damage opponents by blocking. Leaf in the same way as Ice and ESP can do a really strong counter attack by timing block.
@SeaSento
@SeaSento Год назад
The amount of patience this guy has to go through this is amazing
@craftingtales2790
@craftingtales2790 2 года назад
I think the rules passifist challenges should be: if we’re attacking and killing an actual enemy with the attack button, it’s not allowed. If we’re using the attack button to do something that DOESN’T involve killing, it’s allowed. So by these rules it IS possible to beat Kirby and the Forgotten Land, without attacking.
@craftingtales2790
@craftingtales2790 Год назад
Inhale Frosty’s attack to get Ice.
@jonathansdreamland1207
@jonathansdreamland1207 Год назад
I loved the part where c mee craft said it’s pacifist time and pacifist all over the place
@zx-dx719
@zx-dx719 2 года назад
you can cut one of the attacks by not going to the hall room and instead going into the tutorial level and mixing via two bombs (above/below the hover tutorial)
@ArabellaGrant
@ArabellaGrant Год назад
I would say if you had ranger ability in rocky rolling road you could shoot a hidden target in the background at the end of the level and you could access a HAL room and get ice early, but I realized you need to inhale the enemy to do that.. it would add a attack, but it would help a lot. just saying :) EDIT: OOPS THIS WAS ALREADY IN THE VIDEO... 😅😅😅😅😅😅
@monikabaack7950
@monikabaack7950 Год назад
LOL
@Duppling
@Duppling 2 года назад
Alternatively instead of going to the HAL room to get ice early, you could've just taken the fire ability essence nearby and held attack all the way throughout Mr Frosty's fight and potentially taken the ice ability from him instead. However I understand how repeatedly spitting flames at someone doesn't seem very peaceful in a 'no attacking challenge'
@thegamingmagikarp7403
@thegamingmagikarp7403 2 года назад
Could you reduce the number of attacks by getting ice with a mix? If you could use mix to get ice with one “attack/inhale” then the number of attaches could be decreased from 2 to 1
@martinhofs1869
@martinhofs1869 8 месяцев назад
You'd have to Press B to use the Ability of a Mouthful Mode.
@supercalinprodaction1634
@supercalinprodaction1634 2 года назад
At 8:17 :if you activate that Target by that tree you can get ranger on that bench
@Lil_Squink
@Lil_Squink 2 года назад
Could you theoretically get ice with only one attack by mixing? Is that in this game?
@zoraiaero
@zoraiaero Год назад
You can if you were to count moutful as an attack using mouthful storage on the vending machine and doing a cone double jump skip the first fight with wild edge by aligning the vending machine and cone abilities just right
@minecraftmatthew1393
@minecraftmatthew1393 2 года назад
Could you remove one by getting Ranger in town?
@mathcookie8224
@mathcookie8224 2 года назад
If I recall correctly, the weapons shop isn’t unlocked until you beat the first world
@minecraftmatthew1393
@minecraftmatthew1393 2 года назад
@@mathcookie8224 Doesn’t it unlock with the number of Waddle Dees?
@Jimmy-cg9db
@Jimmy-cg9db Год назад
Alt title: is it possible to beat kirby and the forgotten land without attacking but we use something that hurts but I don't think that counts
@Mr.Birb-
@Mr.Birb- 2 года назад
I KNEW ICE WAS GOOD
@someweirdo428
@someweirdo428 Год назад
6:26 “a-lee-vil” 💀 11:15 “jeye-gant” 💀💀
@alexmachan3255
@alexmachan3255 Год назад
Question, could you just have used Gigant sword, taped down the block button, and left it for like half an hour for the final fight? Does the healing ever become low enough that it can out damage it?
@Doumdoum_06
@Doumdoum_06 Год назад
For the final boss you dont need to restait at the end, just wait until he kill you and you will respawn in the room whit all abilities
@theenderkirby
@theenderkirby 2 года назад
Bro you could call bandana dee to share the invicibility candy and thus dragging along the damaging hitbox for the fight?
@HaydenListon
@HaydenListon 2 года назад
I love these challenges please please continue this with the kirby francaise
@bennyk384
@bennyk384 Год назад
I swear you have the patience of a monk.
@sagacious03
@sagacious03 2 года назад
Great run & analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
@jsc1432
@jsc1432 2 года назад
You can get ice from getting a randomized copy ability. It would only take 1 attack to get it because you only have to inhale once. Theres an easy way to get a random copy ability is on the first level after the float tutorial. You can get a poppy bro to throw a bomb off the wall and down to where theres a sword guy(dunno his name). If you inhale them both you can get a random copy ability, which technically means you can get ice with only 1 attack.
@sebastiendennis2648
@sebastiendennis2648 2 года назад
8:00 The rules you set in the beginning don’t prohibit the use of the Ranger copy abilities’ dodge counter
@theopoldthegamer4284
@theopoldthegamer4284 2 года назад
Aw, man! That's spoilers for the HAL room! Oh well, it's not like it's story significant!
@PTp1ranha
@PTp1ranha 2 года назад
The game's been out for months now. After a while, it becomes your responsibility to browse carefully.
@decentnarrow23
@decentnarrow23 2 года назад
Alternate Title: Is it possible to beat KatFL while being a complete pacifist?
@ginipig.
@ginipig. 3 месяца назад
There is some ways to hit bosses without hitting one way is blizzard ice ability which if you block you actually hit the enemy but it does take a long time
@Dead-Pool3_II_Sij6
@Dead-Pool3_II_Sij6 2 года назад
huh I thought Needle's guarding would help. still nice viseo
@eeveestar6826
@eeveestar6826 2 года назад
I think you could have picked up an Ice Ability from the Waddle Dee Copy Ability Upgrade store so you didn't have to kill the Ranger to get to the HAL Room to get the Ice Ability
@CMeeCraftGaming
@CMeeCraftGaming 2 года назад
I don't think they stock copy abilities until you've acquired them by another means at least once.
@samk-j6735
@samk-j6735 2 года назад
The store doesn't *exist* until after world 1.
@D_YellowMadness
@D_YellowMadness 2 года назад
@@CMeeCraftGaming True. Sleep was the last ability I unlocked (not counting upgrades) because I avoided it for most of the game.
@jelli6938
@jelli6938 2 года назад
I just use that cone glitch, where you line cone kirby against the wall before the boss, spit the cone to the wall, line kirby up against the wall, and jump suck it up and press b, and that's it.
@teamawesomeness7137
@teamawesomeness7137 8 месяцев назад
I'd say you still attacked with cone mouth since spike downwards uses the b button
@zvorakfan2023
@zvorakfan2023 2 года назад
you could probably get through the challenge with only one attack if you position enemies for a mix to get ice, i think its doable before the mall?
@thebloonspog6131
@thebloonspog6131 2 года назад
I love the music so much :)
@N0AHOfficial
@N0AHOfficial Год назад
when kirby gets a true pacifist route:
@a.rustici1972
@a.rustici1972 2 года назад
14:50 *Ba-Dum, CHING!*
@blake9081
@blake9081 2 года назад
He didn't need to go back to the beginning of Lab Discovera he could've just died and spawned back where all the copy abilities are before Fecto Elfilis but after Fecto Forgo. Also the def for attack is to take aggressive action against (a place or enemy forces) with weapons or armed force. Would that mean using block that hurts opponents be armed force?
@ConfidentNHandsome
@ConfidentNHandsome 2 года назад
Your videos are so entertaining, keep it up!
@Jaydove2387
@Jaydove2387 2 года назад
Now do The Ultimate Cup Z
@beanman9760
@beanman9760 2 года назад
There’s also a different way to get the cone to the wild edge fight without mouthful storage, I’ve even done it But I forgot how to do it There is a tutorial some where
@Lem_Nade_Music
@Lem_Nade_Music 2 года назад
You technically did not attack an ennemy so it counts as a win , right ?
@zigazav1
@zigazav1 2 года назад
At the Fecto Elfilis fight, the music you played, was that a remix of the King Dedede boss fight music? It sounds super familiar to me...
@capdan9708
@capdan9708 2 года назад
You can actually do it in 1 less attack If you get ice in the first level using a mix
@danyogurt1667
@danyogurt1667 2 года назад
can't you inhale frosty's snowballs to get ice?
@crisptain6356
@crisptain6356 2 года назад
That would count as an attack, since inhaling still uses the B button
@Bokokirby
@Bokokirby 2 года назад
@@crisptain6356 it would still use 1 less attack
@terretro3623
@terretro3623 2 года назад
Wait, hate to burst a bubble but when you land, you always blow which could also be activated early with B. Does that mean that either there’s much more attack inputs or it’s possible to beat the game without attacking?
@hayleywaalen2612
@hayleywaalen2612 2 года назад
I did save all the Waddle Dees.
@mariofanl1ve
@mariofanl1ve Год назад
Now do fecto elfilis with big sword.
@kingdylin9310
@kingdylin9310 2 года назад
I’m pretty sure Kirbys exhale deals damage it just may take some time
@chrisk.3976
@chrisk.3976 2 года назад
How did you get the leak for Rising of the Shield Hero season 3? It looks so good!
@alexleo-wolf4339
@alexleo-wolf4339 Год назад
You should attempt this in other games too.
@bringorbengtsson2582
@bringorbengtsson2582 2 года назад
I think if amibo is okay it would be possible without attacking I guess
@The_Triple_Point
@The_Triple_Point Год назад
can you not inhale the snowballs for ice copy ability?
@GaelRivera.
@GaelRivera. 2 года назад
During the healing stage, the real Elfilis pod is the one with a shadow
@king_alloy
@king_alloy 2 года назад
The issue isn't that he can't tell where it is. Even knowing where and getting to it as fast as possible, the damage of shatter isn't enough to break past the healing threshold.
@GaelRivera.
@GaelRivera. 2 года назад
@@king_alloy Obviously, that’s literally what he said in the video
@king_alloy
@king_alloy 2 года назад
@@GaelRivera. ah I see, I thought it was somehow to let him know that he might be able to save time. It was more just a fun fact for others I assume?
@GaelRivera.
@GaelRivera. 2 года назад
@@king_alloy Yes, it was intended as more of a tip for others
@kaidynseymour4553
@kaidynseymour4553 2 года назад
huh this is gonna be a fun take on things might try it myself to be honest
@yeshwizard7519
@yeshwizard7519 2 года назад
There is a way to do a copy mix at the start
@PoserPosse
@PoserPosse 2 года назад
Using the cone mouthful attack, counts as an attack.
@why3434why
@why3434why Год назад
Can't you do the hammer glitch to avoid the boss trigger?
@justerfrog5557
@justerfrog5557 Год назад
couldn't you just have lost to fecto elfilis and be put back into a room where you can get every ability, and then started from there?
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