Is it Possible to Beat Sonic 2 While Touching Every Ring? 

One thing: even when you're underwater, you can grab onto flying (swimming) tails, and though you can't fly up, you can jump off and tails will follow you upwards, letting you ladder up out of water.

It's fun to see the subversion to "Can you beat X without touching Y"

First time in my life I see those secret paths in Chemical Plant act 2, played this game hundreds of times and there's still secrets to discover, its crazy

Fun fact I learned: the Special Stages have perfect bonuses too! However, it would realistically take way too long to even try.

I think the reason for the discrepancy in Emerald Hill Act 1 is because of the section where there's two pyramids of rings and a checkpoint on top of a loop. Both pyramids look to contain 10 rings, but I am fairly certain that 3 of the rings are actually duplicated. I don't know if they show up as such in a level editor, but I do know from playing the game as a kid that when you left the special stage as Sonic on the Mega Drive version, your rings would be reset to 0, so I would always collect those rings again and I would always end up with 23 despite there looking to only be 20.

I like how you show pretty much everything, not just a few obstacles in a given zone. It's fun to watch. I'm going to subscribe!

So someone actually went through Sonic 2 and made every ring obtainable for Origins. That's awesome.

Impressive thinking to get around those one ways, especially in Metropolis Zone. I absolutely thought either it or Hill Top would be a run killer, even after the explanation of how the Origins version changed ring placements. Well done.

Wow, I'm pausing 15 seconds in to comment on how much you sound like Cybershell. Now to take a big sip of water and return to the video

This was absolutely insane!! I love masochistic challenges like this. I CAN'T BELIEVE some of the stuff you came up with for this!! I'm glad i clicked on your channel to see if you did anything else cool beyond the TTYD video. It's a shame not many others did the same.

Now imagine this as a speedrun. I wonder how optimized Perfect% would get.

I've played this game since it came out, and I had no idea there is a perfect bonus for getting every ring. 😅 edit:Another prohibiting part of using the Genesis version for this challenge is that you can't fly with tails. That wasn't added until Sonic 3, (along with shields and insta-shield) but I'm sure you already knew that.

These are really well paced and entertaining challenges. Can't wait to see more!

Nice video. I really liked the solutions you found for Hill Top 2 and Metropolis 1.

That Hill Top act 2 route was insane! Good job figuring that out

Was hoping this would be the classic version, not the Origins version 😅

POV you ignore cybershells proof of how impossible this is

Great job! I'm having a blast with these videos! :)

This is a great video man! If you made more stuff in this vein, I'd definitely watch it :)

I love your content, please keep uo the good work! Both two last videos were amazong

I was today years old when I found out that the Chemical Plant warp tube direction is determined by the timer.

That Hilltop Zone strat was kinda brilliant. Well done, hell of an accomplishment!

great video and challenge, impressing. going to watch more videos for sure! :)

If you want an insane challenge, I offer you a challenge no other RU-vidr has accepted (or read my comment either most likely) Complete Cannon Fodder and keep Jools and Jobs alive until the end. Anyone else can come and go but you have to keep those two alive throughout. I believe in you

my god, the amount of secrets is astonishing. you're amazing!

Great video! Looking forward to more from you :)

i dont care about the challenge the "IM OUTTA HERE" at the end got me

simple answer: no. there are ring inside of the walls that u cant get. Edit: ok they fixed it in the origins port but on the genesis there was.

Glad to see I’m not the only one who plays Death Egg that way!

Great video dude! Watched your TTYD and this one back to back! Can't wait to see more of your content!

Brilliant work. Didn't think you'd even make it past Chemical Plant!

I usually dont comment on videos but man is impressive, goodjob for your work

The trick to the openings in the walls in Emerald Hill are these invisible objects called path swappers. There are two "paths" or collision planes Sonic 2 and later toggle between to allow Sonic to go through loops and such (Sonic 1 only had one collision layer and loops were a programmed exception but this is why it has no crossing paths). If you are on path 1 for example, the wall is solid. You'd have to cross a path swapper to get onto path 2 and then it's not solid. You can see these objects in debug mode in some versions but a level editor makes it super clear where they are and how they work. They also are used for when Sonic needs to go in front of or behind level art so they can also be used to do that with or without also changing collision.

Wow, I had no clue about the secret path made for Tails in Hill Top Zone Act One! So they had the idea for character ability specific paths even in Sonic 2. That's wild!

This is seriously impressive. Props

Did made this challenge for myself as well and it’s like you read my mind seeing how you dealt with the particular challenges.

Great video!

Wow this chalenge is insanely hard. Congratulations 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Title should be: Is it Possible to Beat Sonic 2 Origins Version, While Touching Every Ring?

When I was a kid, I used to play the rom hack Sonic Delta and try getting every single ring in every zone (as there was a ring counter that counted both the rings you collected and those you didn't). I probably didn't complete many levels, but given the version I was playing was based on the Mega Drive version, I doubt it'd been a success. Thanks for doing this challenge years later!

You tore this game apart in a way I never thought possible

I bet headcannon did this just to spite cybershell

Imagine doing this in Sonic CD, probably be hell traveling through all the Time Warps

This video came out exactly one year ago I still think it deserves A LOT more views

DE is truly impossible as you need at least one ring to create a perfect bonus in the stage itself

2:05 you have NOT played sonic CD

I love how there is so much de*_TAILS_* in that version of the game.

Another detail that makes this challenge impossible in the original game, tails couldn't pick up sonic. It's funny they kept some of the programing oversights though, because they're just as necessary.

Much respect for doing this challenge (which is way worse than getting all the chaos emeralds)

I love these vids challenge

i didn’t think i would like this video but the effort in hilltop and metropolis act 2 made me press Like

Lol I used to watch these TAS videos that collect all the rings in every single zone using various glitches and routing that is beyond my comprehension. As it turns' out I've heard a few others in the community call these "Ring Attacks" where the goal is to try to collect all rings or as much rings you can and finish the zone. For TAS speedruns in this case would be to get all of them. But I have seen others collect every ring in a few zones so its entirely humanly possible. The Sonic M2 port on Switch even has this mode called "Ring Attack" much like "Score Attack" where the goal is to collect rings. So out of interest I wanted to try this myself and its really fun and really satisfying to collect as many rings as you can and watch that score tally go up, and up, and up. I've tried these for the other games too. Up until Matble Garden Zone if you have all 7 Emeralds by Hydrocity Zone, you can get 50 Rings-per Giant Ring. If you play super well you can get more than over 999 rings in total. Marble Garden Zone became so much more fun for me to play because of that. I'd always come back to Sonic 2 for these playthroughs too. I can say watching this There were so many things I just learned through this video. I've been playing Origins and the M2 port religously since those came out. But I had no idea there were rings in such out of reach areas (Like Chemical Plant Zone Act 2, or Casino Night Zone Act 2) Although I knew about the Tails paths. I did also want to add since the goal for this is to get the perfect bonus. You could skip Mystic Cave Zone because your ring count resets once you enter Hidden Palace Zone, and you can't finish Mystic Cave to get to the Flicky Capsule. But otherwise. This was a great watch. After like, 10 years of my life playing Sonic 2 (? I don't remember exactly) I never even knew this had a perfect bonus feature. Nor did I really pay attention to it lol. I learned a lot from this video and it gave me some ideas :)

keep up the challenge videos, really entertaining stuff :)

9:44 "Slippery little bastard. I don't have time for this."

Man went through actuall hell to do this

2:05 "I beat the easiest boss in sonic history" Sonic cd palmtree panic zones boss: "are you sure about that?

This man made sonic 2 history

"Nothing compared to Hill Top Zone act 2" You're not the only one; Go to "Darkness the Curse" and ask him about Hill Top Zone act 2 . . . Sure he can tell you all about that (in his Sonic XL game play) :3

Me: Wow, this video is really good! I wonder what else this channel has? Also me: *Realizing that they haven't posted for 10 months and this was their last video*

I didn't even know there was a perfect bonus for ANY stage

My theory for a reason that you could've gotten the perfect bonus with 299 rings in Emerald Hill is because you may have gotten a ring monitor and ended with 299 rings. Obviously I have no proof for this but it could be the reason.

Gaming God. God tier gamer. The master and savior of us casual plebs

I didn't realize about the perfect bonus

Good video

Well, at least it’s possible to get every ring In the blue sphere stages to get a “Perfect”. However, Metropolis Zone is as hard as hell. Sega did it with Eggman's fortress in West Side Island

This is greater than creating the first airplane

bros making it sound like a lifesteal smp video at the end of every act💀💀💀

I know in the Genesis version you could use Tails to open the doors in Hill Top Zone from the other side by moving so the doors are off screen and deloaded, move Tails to right before the door, and then scroll them back onscreen. I don't know if this is possible on the Origins version however.

Great work, congrats super cool video! I had to say this: At 15'23 in the video when @Melmoth says "backwards", the moment he says "back" coincides exectly with the yellow bumper sound effect. I guess I'll never know if this was made on purpose or happened by chance...

2:00 go up top first. Stand on the bridge and hold down til the screen shifts down. Then go back down and you can jump right in.

she cyber on my shell till I jelq

false advertising, i was told i was watching Cybershell

1:26 that could be the super ring boxes since you already said that "super ring boxes don't count towards the perfect bonus"

Hit every badink in Sonic 2

1:34 if the rings touched sonic's hands while tails is flying with him the rings will get doubled I was pretty shocked when I found that out but it's true

I remember trying to do this challenge back then when Debug Mode is starting to feel old. Just then I figured there's alot of rings scattered around that cannot be taken out of ordinary means. I'm really curious how it will play out but it really makes more sense that this is Origins and not the original. And Mystic Cave Zone 2 Player somehow is just giving me a really really weird kind of nostalgia. It just hits different compared to others. Hidden Palace is using this now but track 10 is something I remember I kept playing back then because it's not everywhere.

I was today years old when I learned the thing about the pipes and the timer, I've been playing Sonic since 2007...

Crazy that they programmed a Perfect bonus knowing full well that some rings would be unreachable. Whoever made this game should go to jail... oh wait...

So, the answer is "yes, if you play an updated version, insert items that aren't in the original, and clip through some walls." 🤣 Good job!

8:10 YOU MONSTER!!!

Bro cheesed the aquatic ruin boss

No chemical plant zone has the best music in the game

Holy shit he finished all Metropolis acts with more than 12 rings!

6:42 it actually IS possible to collect those two rings in the Genesis version using 2P Tails off-camera and thus get a Perfect Bonus in AR2. He ignores collision with sprite-based objects when off screen. Video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OMtvSr5AsYk.html

Seeing the score going over one million points but not showing the first digit of seven is the worse kind of blueballing I've ever experienced.

My best guess as to what's happening in EHZ 1, is that each zone has a hard-coded value for the number of rings required for the Perfect Bonus... with this number corresponding to the number of ring objects in the layout. For EHZ1, it's 296. There are likely 3 erroneously duplicated rings somewhere in the level, putting you to 299. Because 299 is greater than 296, you still get the Perfect Bonus, likely because it does a Greater Than/Equal check to the aforementioned hard-coded perfect value.

Obvious next step is to try and do this in Sonic 3. Given how massive 3's zones are though combined with Knuckles' routes that would probably make more stages impossible than not. Perhaps a different game then? CD comes to mind.

Am I the only one who never knew they were called "super ring monitors"

10:03 I got the perfect bonus in Hilltop Act 1 by accident. I still don’t know how I did that.

When you stopped to mention why you were playing this version of the game I thought it might be because you don't lose a life at the ten minute mark in levels!

I do like Mystic Ruin Music it kind of reminds me of Inspector Gadget theme song by the way it starts out. It is one of my favorites in Sonic the Hedgehog 2.

Casino Night OST best OST. Also is the Hidden Palace zone in the OG version of the game? I had no idea it even existed, and I musta played the game hundreds of times as a kid

For some reason whenever this guy says "the design" i expect it to be followed up with "is very human"

For people who is going to try in the og, There are the rings in the floor.

bro is the lord of the rings‼

This is some true madlad shit.

Cool challenge If youre gonna do it with the other games, you should call it the "Greedy Speedy" challenge

Sonic two, without any rings

Obviously you need to find someone who you're Pacific Rim Drift Comparable with and do those special stages.

How about 'Is it Possible to Beat Sonic CD While Touching Every Ring?'