Is it the end of the road for Shanahan?| OverDrive - Hour 1 - 05/06/2024 

10 years, only one playoff series win against a Tampa team that was very diminished in 2023, how Shanahan and Keefe could get another chance is insane. In Montreal both are long gone and so is Marner.

"When I thought i was out,They pulled me back in"

Marner didn't even stand in front of the media after the loss. His time as a Leaf as ended.

There's is a dispute about their character. Why is marner being allowed to skip media scrums and comments after that game isn't he wearing an A

If we extend Marner it’s a sign we are committed to losing

Give me Knies all day, Marner does not have the mentality...skill through the roof, but we need heart, grit, and mental toughness.

I thought this video was 10 years old with how good O-Dog is looking! Ozemp-Dog

Leafs need more players like Matthew Knies, looked fearless. Marner, complete opposite, no more skilled powderpuffs.

O nailed it as soon as Matthew's came out they started to play playoff hockey .. that's the coach

Did the TSN make-up, camera, and lighting crews get insane pay raises? The three of you look ten years younger. I didn't even recognize Jeff O'Neill. Nice work. Now everyone who goes on camera at TSN will expect to be treated with the same magic wands.

All these injuries will be the excuse of not making any changes!!!!

Would love to bring Konechny to this team.

After the teams's performance against Columbus in 2020 and the Canadiens in 2021, it was clear that this core group simply could not get it done come playoff time. Shanahan and Dubas played into the regular season hype. I'm surprised that Shanahan has put up with this for so long. He is one of the grittiest players in NHL history, played on some tough Cup winners in Detroit, was coached by some stern coaches in Bowman, Keenan etc. Yet, he's allowed his Leafs teams to be so soft.

Which one of the core 4 goes to Utah

26:58 says it all. This is the "core 4" in the playoffs. Unbelievable.

Mathews as captain conversation is over. We saw his leadership this last series. You want him to lead the team to quit?

Noodles is an absolute beauty😂

The guys did a great job in their analysis. If they can eventually part ways with 16 and 91 either through trades or free agency next year and use their money on goaltending on D Shanny will probably survive.

Fire Shanahan. Enough is enough.

Do they even know that they have to win 4 games in a 7 games series, playing half decent in three games won't do it. May be the new coach can focus on that next year.

when a winner like O’Reilly didn’t want to stay, that was the sign to me they shouldn’t of believed it would be different this year.

Jeff O'Neill should probably be the GM with that analysis. That's exactly what is wrong with the Maple Leafs!

"Days of Our Leafs." Soap opera.

Really good point about how Nylander and Matthews should have shouldered some blame when asked about Marner at around 24:00 of the show. Cheers

I think hiring Dubus as GM was a mistake by Leafs

Hayes is NOT a fraud!

Its terrible for a team to have 1 person elevated, that takes the focus and intensity off the others.

On the game winning goal, CLEARLY the goaltender was the one who had the best/easiest opportunity to break that play up. He was way too deep in the net and all he had to do even in that position, was to take one stride and poke the puck away. The issue with Marner is the same as any time you have a player of his stature and contract that you're unsure of and that is, it's VERY difficult to get equal value for him trade wise and even if that were possible, why should any other team bring him in if his problem is he can't preform when it matters most? Do fans assume that the other teams won't know that?

We lost cause Nylander was missed!….. we lost cause Mathews was missed!… We lost cause Woll got injured!…. Perfect excuse!

If Mitch loves being a Leaf so much then why didn't he play like it .Afraid of his own shadow

Thanks for posting

Man O-dogg is looking lean & healthy keep it up!

For eight years, especially after the Habs series, Mitch has been the scapegoat...that is not coincidence.

9:23 Shanahan was ready to EXTEND Dubas. Remember that? Shanahan, Keefe, Marner, Tavares and Reilly need to be shipped. How is Shanahan staying even a consideration? It's been 10 years of the Shanaplan.

Should be gone. Reminds me of when my Pens had Burke in the front office with Hextall. Two stiffs who did nothing for the organization.

all sammy had to do was POKE check the puck...smh.

You guys talk about how the guys should have taken responsibility, something like "I didn't pay well enough blame me" and that's exactly what a leader does. That's what Alex Ovechkin did after they were swept "blame me, I did not play well enough." Is what he said. And yall are totally right. The stars didn't do enough. And yet again were sitting here listening to leafs Nation and Steve dangle and every NHL commentator saying everything we've heard for the last 5 years. They can't. Do it.

Trade any one of these guys (including Auston). They're there for the bag not for chips.

If I was a Leafs fan i'd be most worried about them running it back again with the same core.

Hey even Tampa got ousted with Stamkos, Kucherov , Hedman and Vasilesky. I mean it wasn’t even close.

The way they talk to the media says none of them are captain material

Treated as gods? well theres your problem right there

The T.O. Maple Losers are an EMBARRASSING MESS !!! NO EXCUSES. They have failed to deliver year in year out. Fans have been DUPED into a huge lie. A disaster...from the get go ..!! Setting records of futility...THATS what the fans got !! Zero respect for this joke of a team .!! Hayes is correct ...IT'S OVER.!

I think it is enough for this year to just dump Marner, somehow. It will be difficult because he has a full no trade, but don't worry about what you get back. It's enough to just open up the cap space in order to improve the D-corps and upgrade 1 half of a goalie tandem with Woll. If the D-corps is improved, it will help Reilly because he hopefully won't have to play as much as he does now. Reilly is really good, but currently being asked to do just a little too much. As for Keefe, I'm not crazy about him as coach, but who else is available right now? Just because of how the team played in the last 3 games, it FINALLY (FINALLY!) looked like the team was willing to play the right way in the playoffs. So, if this can finally be the start of something, I'd be OK to keep Keefe to build on this. But the leash is one year, and only if Marner can be ditched. Management should also start talking to JT about what he is thinking long term. What is he going to be looking for on his next contract? If it is a really sweet home town deal, OK, ride out the final year of his old deal. If not, let's start talking about ending this relationship now. He has value, and just like Ray said in his segment, JT is giving you everything he can. I think his faceoffs and defensive play have been worth more than he gets credit for, the bad part of his deal is here. Everyone knew his contract was signed for the hope it could give at the start of it, and that the team would pay for it in the final years. But again, he isn't awful, I want him on the team, but at an appropriate cap hit. So what's the long term outlook on that? Also, is there a conversation to be had about who is wearing the "C" because Matthews, if he wants it, is THE guy now on this team.

Players are saying we love the fact we're getting paid, idolized, and exiting the playoffs in the 1st round so we can hit the links early. Winning don't matter at all. 😂

"The Leafs are in a transition period." Yeah. Since 1967 bro.

I like this show, It`s not perfect, but it`s good, been good for a long time, best show on TSN network. 20 years ago it was Landsberg, now it`s these guys. Favorite here is Hayes, then Oneil, and then Noodles. Pretty good dynamic between the 3, but Hayes is the anchor.

If woll started this series do you think we would have won this series? Answer is yes. This means the coaches made the wrong decisions and goaltending is the issue. It’s simple to fix. Start with Woll next time. He is the real deal. We won when belfour was in net, when cujo was in net, when potvin was in net etc… so we need solid goaltender. One who can steal a game. Else we need to really load up on lots of good d. Marner is not great in playoffs but still worth keeping. If we win he will learn and adjust. Kid wants to play here despite all the criticism. I look at the root cause and that’s goaltending.

The worst thing about the Leafs is that they actually made a series comeback and gave us hope. I was fine giving up on them after Game 4. But then they had to win games 5 and 6 and lose in epic fashion yet again in a Game 7 OT to Boston of all teams. Its like I'm watching the same story over and over retold in different ways.

They should make Shanahan fire himself. If he refuses, then fire him.

You all said this LAST year and as the summer went along you changed your mind and said give em' shot... Are you ACTUALLY going to stick to this opinion this year, or if September rolls around and we have the same team are you going to just give in and say they deserve another shot because of X, Y and Z...

Leafs in 80s had more trustworthiness.

Sounds like they all love and support each other..Plenty of high 5’s and hugs to give on the golf course while cashing those 11 million dollar checks.

I love these guys but really Toronto tied their own hands with Jon at $11M until that comes off the book next season I cannot see a lot changing. Trading good player in the prime means you need to get a few good player back in their prime but the price tag of the players the Leafs have means most will not want to pay the price to acquire one of them. I would have stated Nylander to Calgary would have been an option and still might be but ..... what do the Leafs get back in return. Matthews to Phoenix at least is no longer a narrative!! LOL!! Also don`t think you are getting an upgrade in net when your two goaltenders are 27 & 25; which are still young when looking at the market. Trade maybe but you are trade away years to acquire an old dog.

Its a culture problem in Toronto, has been for a long time. Its not a talent problem as much as a character problem - the kind of character that finds a way to win. It requires a GM who understands this and finds a way to create that culture. You have a real chance at winning by having EVERYTHING in place to win - that's not just players. Its everyone behind them supporing them and making them the best they can be. You must have true grade A people in those positions as well. This is huge and to my understanding is not a financially restricted area like player salaries - start by looking at that. The injury problems are a symptom of what I am talking about.

Well, that should be obvious. Ten years, no accomplishments, didn't even get close, so good bye! If he had a character he would resign himself.

Okay first and foremost I said on here all year long to prepare for this. The Leafs are Charmin and can't score in the playoffs. Saying that.. be honest.. Marner is not the only issue. The team has zero killer instinct in their fabric. The team is coddled and get ready because next year will be the same. Quote me right now. God bless Leaf's fans for standing by this team. You deserve an award leafs fans!!

Take responsibility for loss and man up they sound like spoiled kids

Toronto sports fans are so nice, they can endure years of failure without boycotting their teams. Leafs, Jays, Raptors most likely going through rebuild or retool, if done properly, there might be some compeitive and enjoyable games to watch, that's what I am hoping for the least.

Was Woll injured or was that a coaching decision

All leafs players were coached what to say by leafs PR. This leafs organization is a disgrace.

No accountability , as long as fans keep paying filet mignon prices for chopped steak , nothings gonna change.

They just fell asleep at the wheel. Again.

What truly matters is what the owners think. They are in the business of making money. They don't want moves that won't guarantee them more money. What move will guarantee them more money? None. Keefe will be their sacrificial lamb. That's it. Dream on if you think anything else will happen.

Brendan Shanahan was run out of St Louis for sleeping with a teammates wife. That's not the kind of person that can evaluate what makes a good teammate.

It was the end of the road for Shanahan 10 years ago when he came to the Leafs

Lots of skill for lil mitch but ya no heart probly for the best to hit yhe road kid.

Reminds me of when Paul Kariya, and Selanne were on the AVS. Lol

We need a balance between grit and skill

Shanahan HAS TO GO. Enough is enough. Change starts from the top.

Run it back again boys,

What kind of coach uses a type of system in the playoffs that they never used once during the regular season? how can your players possibly play well like that?

it was icing

There was only two, real major issues that the Leafs encountered.. 1. Our Lack of Team defense was an issue in the first two games vs Bruins.. (that is a coaching issue) he has not been able to get this team to play proper defense the entire time he has been here.. That difference, could have gotten us one or two more games before our back was to the wall.. This is a FACT...... 2, Our Powerplay.. Not adjusting our powerplay to an entirely new zone entry and attack is again ( COACHING )... This team should have raced to the blue line with speed and chased a dump in,,,, then force point shots while crashing the net... They failed to adjust and we missed out on maybe, 15 more goals which would have ended this series... In Everything other area, the Leafs matched or exceeded Bruins play... How do we know this --we went to game Seven OT...

Man what Jeff said is just be honest. Just say you didn't play good because even saying that is a understatement. Among all the bad luck.

They were SO close to winning that round! We have to run it back again! One lucky bounce and the Leafs could easily have won that. Maybe tinker with the 3rd and 4th lines. Maybe try to get a 3rd pairing D man, and that will put them over the top. Trust the shanaplan.

If marner says I'll do 8x7.5per, does he stay?

On the PP the Leafs need at least 1 player is good on the 1 timer.

The style of goaltending by going down on the knees on every shot is the main cause of injuries

Run it back but with Marner to Pens for Karlsson pp will be legit Dubas will hook up that trade for sure

It’s not even like they’re treading water. They are trading away first round picks every year! For what, 1st round KOs?? Yeah not worth it. Can’t keep Marner or Tavares, but there is literally nothing else, no other option. Unbelievably unfortunate

It should be with the results he s shown and the $$ he makes we all wish we could have his job.

im not a fan of the leafs but i feel like shanahan should get 100% of the blame and should be gone after this shit. we knew marner wasnt built for the postseason, at least with the leafs, after that habs series, and after losing to tampa and keefe making that loser ass comment about how "they showed more respect to us in the handshake line" he should have been gone to. at this point running it back and expecting a diff result is just asinine when youre facing the same opponents year in and year out due to playoff formating, and thinking youll eventually break through lmao. its actually even funnier typing this and saying it out loud.

LOL, they love Mitch. Of course they do because he is the goddess of love.

4:47 everyone wanted a new GM in Toronto. Coach is fine you need to change up roster. Just fire everybody is not always the answer

O'Dog for Leaf President!!!!

Time to put the band back together time to bring pride back to the brand.

If I was the press I would have said "wait what? You're ok blaming us for your piss poor play for years? Sorry pal but your clubs decades long fails ARE "the narrative!""

Folks, you're forgetting about Guy Boucher and the failure with the power play

Grant shannahan did a lot but look what brad brought in before the season and recently he is already has already a better Gm in a years time

Do your fans a favor, Mr. President. Next year, no more embarrassing press conferences (for you and your fans). Just come out. Grab the microphone. And sing two choruses of "Tomorrow" from the broadway musical Annie.

Need a couple studs on defense to take the pressure off of Reilly

Would Toronto ever go look at Woody, Edmonton's old coach?

End of the road for Shanahan? It better be than the end of the road because whilst it is likely he will keep the AM34-Marner-Nylander-Rielly-Tavares quintet together, that quintet is at the root of what is wrong with the Leafs and thus must be broken up.

Willing to give up Matthew and Marner for McDavid. Please 🙏🏼 ?????

So we’re still in the same boat, just a different storm. I want a better boat!!!😞🤬

Does anyone think Keefe has anything to do with the "don't say anything" mentality??

There like little kids playing in a big league you can support but stop protecting him they don't take any responsibility because there aloud to do it

The John Tavares signing is hanging around this teams neck like an albatross. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

I figured it out, no change because Leafs make MONEY, so why would you make changes if the bottom line of a business is making a profit. It’s like a restaurant buys a $1 steak, cook it and serves it to a customer paying $100 and the restaurant is packed every night. Why would you change things. It’s not about winning playoff games or Stanley Cup, it’s about selling tickets, merchandise, tv deals … $$$$$&