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IS IT UNSTOPPABLE?! 2nd Panzer Gameplay- Steel Division 2 Normandy 44 

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🕹️ In this video, we dive deep into some gameplay with 2nd Panzer for the upcoming Tribute to Normandy 44 DLC for Steel Division 2! Whether you're a seasoned general or new to the front, there's something here for everyone!
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@josephmorales521
@josephmorales521 6 месяцев назад
The way he uses the Soviets is truly a masterpiece. Unreal how he had a counter to everything you were doing on stand by.
@mimile4462
@mimile4462 6 месяцев назад
Attackpower also allowed him do whatever he wanted. Not being agressive is a death sentence. When I play against players that are less experienced than me, I can realize quickly that they are scared to face me and they won't try anything agressive. It allows me to do what I want and makes it easier.
@Thehellhound100
@Thehellhound100 6 месяцев назад
He was playing 2nd pz so couldn't be aggressive tho, you get 0 tanks and your pumas can't push vs mediums (at msot and with RNG they can defend), most he could do is gamble in a crazy rush and hope RNG carried him hard vs t-34s @@mimile4462
@TheAdamk12
@TheAdamk12 6 месяцев назад
Gonzo took every opportunity to exploit Atkpwer’s passivity. Atkpwer was even psyching himself out ahead of time.
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 6 месяцев назад
Gonzo just played way better than me, not more to say about it, he is very good
@tiagodagostini
@tiagodagostini 6 месяцев назад
It is funny as gonzo always have a plan for each unit.
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 6 месяцев назад
YEah he knows the game incredibly well
@mimile4462
@mimile4462 6 месяцев назад
When you deploy troops that have a nice transport (leaders with halftracks, etc), you can shift clic to add an order to the halftrack after disembarking the unit. I usually add a hunt order to reposition the transport. 2pz doesn't only have the veterancy. Yes, there is no unique unit but it gets a lot of good units, not meaningful weakness and a lot of activation points. It isn't op, it is A+ or S-. Lack of armor isn't that much of an issue. If you rely on armor to kill armor when defending, you are doing it wrong. AT is a much more cost efficient way to deal with armor. The issue here is that you didn't prepare and react properly to enemy armor (and gonzo being gonzo obviously). "I know that I am floating but I don't know what to do" *can buy pumas, 88mm, inf to hold the buildings, AA, mortar* Also, use recon. You have a church to use and a lot of open ground to cover.
@McMonkeyful
@McMonkeyful 6 месяцев назад
Thanks Memile. I've always found it frustrating that artillery with ammo transport deploy right on top of each other, making it difficult to select the arty or create a control group if there are multiple guns. I don't know why I never thought of this as a solution! Now I can call in the arty & queue up a shift move order for the ammo truck to move away to a safer location. A-M-A-Z-I-N-G thanks :)
@McMonkeyful
@McMonkeyful 6 месяцев назад
Damn, that doesn't work as I deploy the unit but I can add the shift+move order once they appear at spawn. A little more micro but easier than dealing with them stacked on top of each other.
@mimile4462
@mimile4462 6 месяцев назад
@@McMonkeyful Yeah, it doesn't work when deploying after the setup. But at least during the setup, it is very useful.
@McMonkeyful
@McMonkeyful 6 месяцев назад
@@mimile4462 It's a small improvement to my skills. Will make babysitting Nebelwerfers easier.
@Thehellhound100
@Thehellhound100 6 месяцев назад
no tanks in A as a meaningful weakness and 0 answer to IS-2s as a general weakness in maps like slutsk
@Blanzalot
@Blanzalot 6 месяцев назад
Gonzo is such a wonder to watch. He just knows the game mechanics sooo well.
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 6 месяцев назад
Yeah it’s very hard to face haha
@EstellammaSS
@EstellammaSS 6 месяцев назад
Do you think they should be giving Soviet “guards” divisions some free vet too? Maybe just a veteran card of Gvardyia(DP)+T-34s It kinda rubs me the wrong way seeing US troops somehow being more veteran than some Soviet divisions that has been fighting since 1941 and literally got their name because they’re established veterans
@tiagodagostini
@tiagodagostini 6 месяцев назад
Soviet troop losses were very high, very few troops themselves had been fighting for much long. They could have bonus on some CARDs imho.
@EstellammaSS
@EstellammaSS 6 месяцев назад
@@tiagodagostiniThat is very much true, but I still think the elites from a Soviet Guard division will be more experienced than any of their US counterparts in June 1944 where this game’s timeframe is set. I think a card of force double vet infantry/recon and a card of force double vet tanks with better availability would be good enough.
@Savantqqqq
@Savantqqqq 6 месяцев назад
@@EstellammaSSthey should after all soviet guards represent elite formation
@HarrDarr
@HarrDarr 6 месяцев назад
@@EstellammaSS This is inaccurate, most formations in ww2 were held in the frontline until they were ground to nothing (or the operation ended and they were R&R'd out), it was practically only the western allies that rotated troops in the way that we recognize today, and to that extent they didn't do it that much either.
@МихаилЧерников-п2т
@МихаилЧерников-п2т 6 месяцев назад
Yeah,guards itself are supposed to be more or less “elite” infantry, merited based on the actions and morale of the unit. Right now Soviets just lost all the flavour. This game isn’t about Bagration anymore
@trewqschluss4760
@trewqschluss4760 6 месяцев назад
AtkPwr: Nothing special here. Also AtkPwr: has 10 double vet pumas in A phase.
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 6 месяцев назад
It did not feel special during that game I can tell you that haha
@dominuslogik484
@dominuslogik484 6 месяцев назад
Gonzo feels like the kind of guy that will take 10 tanks from an infantry division and make it feel like you were facing multiple tank divisions worth of armor through careful redeployment and loss prevention. also I just noticed artillery almost made no appearance at all in this game. I still feel like artillery feels awful to call in because if you aren't doing good already you can't afford it and if you can afford it you don't really need it.
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 6 месяцев назад
Hes very very good, no question about that haha
@czwarty7878
@czwarty7878 6 месяцев назад
I think they should receive one card of Auflkarungs Pz IV available in A phase. As you said Pumas can't act as tanks, adding these PzIVs would not change much or make this div OP at all (PzIVs suck anyway lmao), yet at least would allow you to strengthen a flank with armor and tank just few more hits to make gameplay less strenous. As even accounting for skill level difference, it's visible this division really struggles in A, units are expensive and not numerous enough to win advantage by themselves and aggressive player will win every time by simply using armor rush and CQC units to overwhelm them easily
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 6 месяцев назад
That would be interesting, I just think it goes against the whole concept of it
@flytoday
@flytoday 6 месяцев назад
Love to see this game from Gonzo's POV
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 6 месяцев назад
It’s the same butt kicking from a different perspective haha
@sir_vix
@sir_vix 6 месяцев назад
I assume you have your reasons, but why do I see you and Vulcan (amongst others) deploy infantry in unarmored transports right into the danger zone rather than, for example, one terrain or urban feature back before advancing into combat? Why risk units getting killed in their transports? Is it a conceit to the demands of micromanagement? I would think that even if they deploy less favorably, live troops would still at least blunt the opposition's offensive momentum.
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 6 месяцев назад
Well often times a position I call in a reinforcement to a point that doesn't appear far forward but by the time they get there it has become the front line haha
@TooOldForG
@TooOldForG 6 месяцев назад
Letting the left flank fall to his heavy investment in armor and pushing through the right flank urban area with your infantry in phase A with smoke may have worked. It doesn't look like he had any CQB infantry until phase B and your panzerfausts could have taken anything armor in reach. Mortars, either 50mm or 81mm, are a must for smoke and suppression. Just a thought.😊
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 6 месяцев назад
I am sure there were plenty of things I could have done, I just didn't do them haha thanks for watching!
@TooOldForG
@TooOldForG 6 месяцев назад
@@atkpwrgaming hindsight is 20/20. Definitely easier to manage a small area of units on your screen in the 10v10 that I play vs. having to manage a huge front in 1v1.
@ElpredatorGYRO
@ElpredatorGYRO 6 месяцев назад
You have never played Gonzo I figure. ;)
@jaapaasa
@jaapaasa 6 месяцев назад
I agree that 2nd won't be a S tier division, rather solidly in A tier with 20th and 26th. The reason being, well, it's a panzer division. Lack of tanks in A doesn't seem like that big of a deal though, outside of specific matchups ofc, as we already have plenty of divisions with limited tank/at assets in A. Here it does look rough, but that's mostly because Gonzo would demolish 99% of the player base with any div.
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 6 месяцев назад
True haha I think 20th and 26th actually have better tools. And GD has better infantry. So If those aren't S tier I dont see how this could be
@TheDpuerto
@TheDpuerto 6 месяцев назад
2 panzer will just be a better 5th panzer, 26th and 20th are much more ahead
@michimatsch5862
@michimatsch5862 6 месяцев назад
@@TheDpuerto I was never interested in 5th Panzer but I may give it a go with the double grille+sig33 now. It's not gonna make the division amazing. But you can have fun with that and the other tools.
@damionvanschreeven7390
@damionvanschreeven7390 6 месяцев назад
I think because of the lack of tanks in A, your oppponent will always try to push. I guess you have to focus this Div in A to delay enemy attacks by placing pzshrecks, 75mm. Rush them in and hide them everywhere.😂 Maybe some planes with bombs or AT. And maybe some 82/120 mortars to suppress.
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 6 месяцев назад
Yeah I am sure there are a few ways to work around it, some math ups are going to really suck
@stardekk1461
@stardekk1461 6 месяцев назад
You need to take both Pak 40 cards in A
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 6 месяцев назад
Yeah I realize that now haha
@CosmicLegion
@CosmicLegion 6 месяцев назад
I think I have calmed a little bit on this divison. I didnt everthink it was going to be S like current live patch. I think post DLC the S tier will not be as dominant as before. As I think many divs that right now should be S tier is just A tier because of how bonkers SSB etc is. It will go back to those divs being back in S tier and S tier being bigger but not the "very op" just the "Best of the best" category. This div will be a solid A tier div. I think its not a good firstpick but will be superstrong when its not playing a div that rushes tanks in A and on superopen maps. Also playing a div vs Gonzo doesnt say much about the div. As most player would need a div more broken than current SSB to beat Gonzo.
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 6 месяцев назад
Yeah I am very interested to see what divisions feel better due to the nerf. The thing is there's no stat nerfs coming, just price nerfs so it may not feel that different unfortunately. the divs will be worse but not the units
@Anima_2_2302
@Anima_2_2302 6 месяцев назад
yeah gonzo is back ^^
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 6 месяцев назад
Not really just on the strike team
@blooddef
@blooddef 6 месяцев назад
how do you protect yourself from early rushes? The biggest difficulty I have in multiplayer at the moment is that my opponent suddenly has a massive influx of troops in a certain area and I am not able to stop it. Is it having good defensive lines with MG's and anti-tank guns covering areas?
@tedarcher9120
@tedarcher9120 6 месяцев назад
If he rushes your one flank he probably has nothing else everywhere else so you need to contain his breakthrough and push his other flank asap
@McMonkeyful
@McMonkeyful 6 месяцев назад
If you have access to them, light AT guns are a good counter to opening rushes (45mm/47mm etc...). They are cheap, accurate, fire really fast & you normally get a good number of them on a card, so can cover a lot of the map while leaving enough points to resource your own push. They're great at killing armoured cars, which are a rush staple. Even if they get overwhelmed, they should buy you enough time to organize a counter.
@dominuslogik484
@dominuslogik484 6 месяцев назад
which divisions/nations do you like to play? it will dictate how you respond to rushes or prevent them.
@blooddef
@blooddef 6 месяцев назад
@@tedarcher9120I'm just shit at attacking xD
@blooddef
@blooddef 6 месяцев назад
@@McMonkeyful Great advice, where do I position them?
@OK-GV888OD
@OK-GV888OD 3 месяца назад
😎😎😎
@MrJackconnolly
@MrJackconnolly 6 месяцев назад
Could you put the 7th Mech deck code please?
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 6 месяцев назад
I don’t have it cause of the weird strike team stuff it won’t work
@usg-647
@usg-647 6 месяцев назад
Division preview - AND - Gonzo content! Please don't bum rush me. OK. takes long way around, slowly, outflanks and displaces from key spots.
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 6 месяцев назад
Yeah that’s exactly what happened haha
@ElpredatorGYRO
@ElpredatorGYRO 6 месяцев назад
First mistake : playing Gonzo. Second mistake : playing Gonzo with Balanced against MAV. Third mistake : playing Gonzo.
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 6 месяцев назад
Yeah there are only so many people to playlets with haha
@itzjoboy5782
@itzjoboy5782 6 месяцев назад
Obligatory first
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 6 месяцев назад
Congrats! thanks!
@tedarcher9120
@tedarcher9120 6 месяцев назад
Yeah tank deficit in A really hurts it. I think I prefer GD anyway
@mimile4462
@mimile4462 6 месяцев назад
Nah, it just means you can't push in the open. You can do everything else normally
@tedarcher9120
@tedarcher9120 6 месяцев назад
@@mimile4462 in the open you can use 88s and grille at least, more of a problem in towns
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 6 месяцев назад
The infantry are definitely more interesting in GD
@someonefromabroad5563
@someonefromabroad5563 6 месяцев назад
Don't worry, no one will think 2nd Panzer OP after this display. 😁
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 6 месяцев назад
lol too true
@Justheory11b
@Justheory11b 6 месяцев назад
Everything looks bad against Gonzo.
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 6 месяцев назад
Perhaps, but it did feel quite bad
@ali2043
@ali2043 6 месяцев назад
By your logic, if you lose to Gonzo with playing SSB, then SSB is balanced and don't deserve a nerf xD
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 6 месяцев назад
The first part was the more important part haha me winning meant it was OP haha
@markcollins6578
@markcollins6578 6 месяцев назад
you lost for 2 reasons - you used all your recon aggressively ending with no sight, you lost focus of your weaknesses namely no tanks and no 100mm cqc Phase A. You could have exposed his weekness by having AT troops in the buildings on the left and to the rear of the bushes in the middle left. Middle right town 2no. 10pt MG carriers tore you to bits along with 1no. cqc unit. End of the day it shows the units weakness which is what we needed to see
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 6 месяцев назад
It definitely showed all the weaknesses! haha its gonzo losing is gonna happen
@andreproductions1
@andreproductions1 6 месяцев назад
Nah dude he lost cuz gonzo is insane. Dude definitely plays 1000x better than your average ranked queue player
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