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Is the VETERANCY WORTH IT?! 2nd Panzer Gameplay- Steel Division 2 

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Комментарии : 46   
@psychzach1588
@psychzach1588 3 месяца назад
It's a panzer division. It's spaghetti and meatballs with herbs on top. But you don't get the meatballs until you're a quarter through the noodles.
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 3 месяца назад
perfect analogy :)
@EstellammaSS
@EstellammaSS 3 месяца назад
There’s a double drilling truck for 20 points that can be used to tow flak 36/43 in 16th luftwaffle. That plus the double 37 means for 220 points any plane that enters the side straight up dies before dropping their payload. As someone who hates plane spam it feels absolutely amazing lol.
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 3 месяца назад
Very nice I missed that!
@joelm5509
@joelm5509 3 месяца назад
We sure love the tasty Luftwaffles
@michajagielski8381
@michajagielski8381 3 месяца назад
"This division doesnt impress me. It's just a panzer division" *looks up the division* "2nd Panzer"
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 3 месяца назад
Yeah there’s nothing crazy interesting. Just a lot of vet which is cool but this is achievable with leaders and a commander as well
@mimile4462
@mimile4462 3 месяца назад
You need to start playing pz divs as pz divs. Spam tanks. When you have the points, don't buy 1 tank or 2. Buy 5 pz4, 1 panther, 1 grille, a few armoured cars, 2 sturmpio and 3 pzgren. And with that, push to the spawn. Keep the inf in front of the tanks and keep tanks away from forests. And don't forget your AA far behind. Also, vet more agressively. In what world are you buying 3 IG33 and 8 grille? Yeah, this div has nothing unique exciting. It is just good. The only difficulty is that you can't deal with light armor in A and can't push in the open in A.
@k98_zock_tv47
@k98_zock_tv47 3 месяца назад
yeah, I see in youtube many people taking cards completly unvetted. Or over 80 units of infantry. I think its a waste too. I like to vet units + command structure. SPecially with the 2nd Panzer you can go easily 3 crosses of veterancy
@czwarty7878
@czwarty7878 3 месяца назад
The problem is straight tank play is easily counterable (by holding forests/towns + AT gun spam), plus Panzer Divisions don't have numbers nor efficiency that would make that effective enough with pure tank play. Eugen is from the very early days deathly afraid to make Panthers and Tigers too strong so they're always very mid, they're costly investment that you can never take in proper numbers and always feel painfully when you lose one; and Panzer IVs are just very mediocre tanks by themselves. Paradoxically always strongest Panzer Divisions are those that have access to non-Panzer-Division units...
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 3 месяца назад
That’s a lot of armor to buy and a lot of armor that just crumbles to some AT. I understand your point. It’s a skill issue too I don’t perform as well with my tanks
@mimile4462
@mimile4462 3 месяца назад
​@@atkpwrgaming Yes, it is vulnerable to AT. That is why you need combined arms warfare. Keep infantry and armored cars in front of your tanks to spot and kill AT guns. If there is an AT gun that is holding you up, use arty or air. It is a lot of points to invest but that is how you get results. Spending 200 points might grab a flag. Spending 400 points might win 1/3 of the map. You often float 500pts. When that happens, think where you can push and invest all those points in one big push. Because you will have such overwhelming forces, you will kill a lot more than you will lose (if you do combined arms warfare properly obivously). That is what you see happening in many div 1 games where each side demolishes a flank. Each player saves up enough forces to launch an overwhelming offensive. You need to learn to do the same. You are already good at defending and saving points, now you need to learn how to spend those points to push hard.
@mimile4462
@mimile4462 3 месяца назад
@@k98_zock_tv47 80 inf is completely fine if your inf isn't expensive. I aim for 80+ inf if the inf is cheap and more like 60-70 if the inf is expensive. It depends on what else I can buy in the div and what my opponent is playing of course.
@proxy7863
@proxy7863 3 месяца назад
Your playing has come on so well, good game 👌
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 3 месяца назад
Thank you!
@solaufein1374
@solaufein1374 3 месяца назад
Wow, i admire how you can hold the line against maverick. Allot is an expert player.
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 3 месяца назад
Thank you! It’s fun playing him we usually have good games!
@CosmicLegion
@CosmicLegion 3 месяца назад
You were worried about the long game despite the income difference but you shouldnt be. Lehr doesnt have the slots to go long. 2nd Panzers advantage on lehr is sure vet but other than that you have MUCH better slot economy. Making you able to take more units while still having veterancy. My deck in this game had 0 supply and 0 arty as it didnt fit. But you were right that more than a better div being balanced is much more impactful on this map. As its a heavily favors balanced and defensive play with 2k and arty. The lack of 2k is hard on this map when you try to take the fights. But as balanced you didnt need to and could sit back and defend which you did well. There is no flags from blue side they can take by utilizing 2k. So the 2k problem wasnt really going to be an issue until you want to push. All the flags are so far back and isnt in the open where 2k can support it. only indirectly in the center but that hill makes you able to avoid the 2k. Then it was just a time issue until the balance income took the day. And even withouth balanced it would have worked. As the long game you can outlast with having more slots and arty. I tried to poke but wasnt really any flags more than a singletick I can take and thats tough as I need to fight in areas where the vetdiff matters. even on other side there is easier way to get double tick but still not enough making defensive deck the favored winner. Having trouble to thing what should have done differently on the strategic level. Maybe just build up force in a and then just Q move onto hill and hope you panick and stagger your forces back to stop the singletick but dont really see that working either. The reason for the sdkfz not killing the fw was because the aa gun was in the middle of some buildings hence it barely fired. On my side I had 1 1vet flakvierling and a 2 vet one hence they downed you planes. Also dont bother with people complaining about floating on this map. Its totally OK as its a static field and just build up enough points to win as you dont need those units on the frontline to hold hence its ok to float. Regarding 2nd panzer is it unique units you lack? Because unless its agaisnt a div that can spam cheap armor and you arent on an open map then the downside is not that big. On the upside your like every other panzerdiv that can bring more stuff despite everything being 1 vet more due to very good activation slots.I feel the main lack is rocketarty otherwise you are set. With the vet pgrens and sturmpios are still really good ontop of vetter mortars and arty. Not saying its unbeatable or anything like that. You say not a lot of 2k but you have 2 cards of 2k HE and as many panthers as you want. What is it that it lacks there? YOu also have IG33. Not many divs have more than that. Sure some unique divs like 4th fsj have better specials and other some better specialized cqc but thats not a large difference with the vt you have and ability to play around. Sure its not "wow cant be stopped" But what div is like that now except for SSB and similar? And if you say "its not as good as SSB used to be" its still pretty damn strong. So more or less its just a better panzerdiv in almost all categories. I think panzerdivs while werent all A were a solid decent divs unless they had shit inftabs. So this is to panzerdivs what 4th armored is to american divs. I think lehr could do good in a map with lots of townfighting and ability to take trippletick on the map though. But you say it would run over in A phase I think that its not axis divs but more soviet divs or western allied divs that 2nd panzer is afraid of as they can bring lots more light armor that has an impact on the front. Dont agree with the "then panzerdivs would already be op" Because panzerdivs are already being good but not S tier. Because the same vet on other divs would put you at like 30infunits. Im not saying its the new SSB or so so maybe im arguing against something that isnt actually the opinion you hold but I still feel this is just one of the A tier panzerdivs. Only held back by divs that are S because they are just bonkers. I think the 3 new panzerdivs are togheter with 26th and 20th the best panzerdivs in the game and all solidly in A or above.
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 3 месяца назад
I guess I was thinking panzer lehr had more availability. I forgot about its slot limitations. I still don’t find 2nd pz to be super impressive, but it is interesting to see how efficient the units are at triple vet
@VampiroGaming
@VampiroGaming 3 месяца назад
High Noon CET is AttackPower-time! gg wp
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 3 месяца назад
Wahoo!
@Niveaufriedhofchef
@Niveaufriedhofchef 3 месяца назад
AtkPwr floating 5 million points, look at him go!
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 3 месяца назад
Skillz. ;)
@boringpolitician
@boringpolitician 3 месяца назад
22:30 - When I say that "this weapon sucks, unless used against AtkPwr", it's this I mean, the RNG-guds doesn't seem to like you. I have no idea what you've done to make them upset, but they don't seem to like you. 🤪 Well played!
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 3 месяца назад
lol feels to real though haha
@claudiorocha3239
@claudiorocha3239 3 месяца назад
Hey, we are we getting an updated Div Tier list? :)
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 3 месяца назад
It will be a little still while the meta is figured out before I make bold tier list claims :)
@wantsomenoob
@wantsomenoob 3 месяца назад
From what i have seen from the meta veterancy (minimum 2) is mandatory at least for infantry.
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 3 месяца назад
its starting to feel that way
@carlhayhoe3354
@carlhayhoe3354 3 месяца назад
How do you get the chat up mate ?
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 3 месяца назад
press enter
@beo_b3065
@beo_b3065 3 месяца назад
Why don't you use panther Gs?
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 3 месяца назад
Lower availability and higher cost for an apcr ive used one time in my many years of playing
@OK-GV888OD
@OK-GV888OD 18 дней назад
😎😎😎
@markcollins6578
@markcollins6578 3 месяца назад
40 min. sticky bug = no shoot or fall back for Pak 40
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 3 месяца назад
Ahhh thank you!!
@vseznamus8862
@vseznamus8862 3 месяца назад
"Panther is not good 2k AT" If panther doesn't cut it wtf does lmao 😂
@tiagodagostini
@tiagodagostini 3 месяца назад
17 Pdr, tanks are risky to use in ati tank role, much more than guns.
@zinox9262
@zinox9262 3 месяца назад
Even panther vs panther is a fine encounter. Usually the one with higher vet wins so that's a plus for 2nd pz.
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 3 месяца назад
There’s a lot of ways to easily deal with a panther. It dies to a lot of the things you need it to kill
@dominuslogik484
@dominuslogik484 3 месяца назад
@@atkpwrgaming unless you are playing a division like 7th Eesti lol. no panzerfaust and your best AT is a maximum of 3 SU-85 where the rest of your stuff is just siz-3 76.2mm guns and IIRC the only thing that gets APCR is the SU-76M but good luck getting one of those within range of a panther.
@Lobcastcoke
@Lobcastcoke 3 месяца назад
Fall back Nerf is a bit rough
@atkpwrgaming
@atkpwrgaming 3 месяца назад
Its amazing honestly
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