Is It Worth It To Buy A 2022 Standard Challenger Deck? A Magic: The Gathering Product Review

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@TolarianCommunityCollege 2 года назад

The Return Of The Magic: The Gathering Pro Tour: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pfAUYKGTppQ.html >AND< The Fall Of House Dimir | A Magic: The Gathering Story Dive: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Iee77Z29IBY.html

@ManyKudos 2 года назад

That deckbox fumble is one of the funniest and most wholesome things I've seen on your channel, I'm glad you left it in!

@bodaciouschad 2 года назад

I bought physical planewalker decks back in Dominaria- they came with arena redemption codes. They have the technology... they just want us to spend extra mythic wildcards on our superfriends decks.

@wiziek 2 года назад

Just not for standard,pioneer decks. Keep that money rolling for WOTC -.-.

@racksattack-ml7sz 2 года назад

It's one of the reasons I got into arena. Saw the code said wth and downloaded the game. I've bought a season pass or two so prof is right. I use arena as a way to understand how cards should interact, and it also helped me understand the stack a lot better.

@ChickenMcThiccken 2 года назад

these are not planewalker decks. #1. it said on the package that there was a code for arena. these do not.

@Lucarioguild7 2 года назад

@@ChickenMcThiccken You're completely missing the point

@ChickenMcThiccken 2 года назад

@@Lucarioguild7 how am i missing the point? it clearly says on the package if it has a arena code or not. not every product that is released ; comes with an arena code. some do; others do not.

@hiygamer 2 года назад

I remember the talk about these when the decklists were revealed a while back, but until I saw this video show up in my feed, I honestly completely forgot about them.

@TriotheHoly 2 года назад

I thought it may have been a April fools joke at first

@erfunk 2 года назад

@@TriotheHoly Same!

@noobpaints6114 2 года назад

@@TriotheHoly “do you guys not have phones? “

@malecstark3214 2 года назад

Same my dude

@FallRiseRepeat 2 года назад

Prof breaking at 2:36 was so wholesome. Man I love this channel

@Aikon94 2 года назад

Was about to write the same ahah, loved it

@randommindz6782 2 года назад

up until that point I figured that was in the script.

@TheLastAlive 2 года назад

I would 100% buy this if it had a digital code.

@ChickenMcThiccken 2 года назад

good. because what idiot wants to make 80$ profit per deck purchase?

@PsychoEditor 2 года назад

Same

@gchristnacht Год назад

Same..

@agamenmmon7210 2 года назад

Idk why but I found 2:31 where Prof fumbles a deckbox then laughs about it, saying he'll "leave the take in", so wholesome. Reminds us that he's not just this figure on RU-vid but more human and relatable.

@Mrtfarrugia 2 года назад

He was testing the deck box. He's multitasking.

@willscott6194 2 года назад

I would probably buy this if they had the code

@loz9324 2 года назад

100% I would. Not going to without it tho

@jaolen 2 года назад

Then it’d have to be legal on arena 😅

@ShredAimlessly92 2 года назад

The biggest thing keeping me from trying arena is having to start from scratch. Having a code would give me something to work with and build off of. Whatever, more money for my LGS I guess.

@makemesmile004 2 года назад

@@ShredAimlessly92 there are a slew of free codes to use to get started on arena.. Like a lot.

@matthew_thefallen 2 года назад

@@ShredAimlessly92 I've done some prerelease with the codes in it, but they are of course single use. Once you use it, you can't put another one. So dumb

@perz343srry 2 года назад

I got a Gruul Stompy preorder for $23.... I only wanted the goldspan dragon

@ace94 2 года назад

literally the reason why me and all my friends bought it lol

@jessesandburg 2 года назад

Magda is cool add in as well. So worth it though for a goldspan

@3LimbedHero 2 года назад

Saaaaaame

@timple89 2 года назад

Same here hahaha

@KYeung-be4lw 2 года назад

Yeah, goldspan dragon finna be to 2022 challenger decks what true name nemesis was to 2013 commander decks

@archonambroseus 2 года назад

"I'm leaving that take in" is the Prof's version of, "Fuck it, we'll do it live!"

@AlexSilver9 2 года назад

I will say, the inclusion of more "special" prints like showcases and alt art lands are pretty cool at least. Not the main reason you should buy these for sure, but a nice little bonus.

@alexlandsbergs 2 года назад

I havent played standard in a couple years (who can guess why lol) but now this is a pretty decent way to get back into local games so I ended up getting one. even if its not super optimized for tourneys.

@AlexSilver9 2 года назад

@@alexlandsbergs hope you enjoy it! Sounds like a good place to start if you haven't competed in a bit.

@tylersuppes2619 2 года назад

These videos have been helping me be a better magic player for a long time now, but I never had anyone to play with due to my location. When you opened up your discord to everyone, I was able to play a paper game of magic for the first time in almost two years. Not going to lie, I nearly cried. So thank you, Professor, from the bottom of my heart, for allowing me to get that little bit of fun back into my life.

@Toasty25000 2 года назад

And his isn't the only one! Do some digging, there are lots of discord servers for webcam Magic

@tylersuppes2619 2 года назад

I would explore them, but I feel safe with the credibility of the professor.

@starmanda88 2 года назад

❤️❤️❤️

@maditheimmortal5296 2 года назад

To be fair, I think they were going off of the meta's trajectory from the start of standard. gruul werewolves was quite competitive and Dimir Control was competing with Izzet Dragons for the top spot at times. It's not like these decks are poorly constructed, the Dimir and Gruul ones are very well built for a $30 standard deck.For someone who just wants to get games at FNM these are more than enough in terms of performance. The main issue is how much the meta has shifted since these archetypes were meta,and that might have something to do with how wildly it's swung since Kamigawa/the Epiphany ban. I don't think it was Wizards's intent to just make random decks for the sake of it, but given the constantly changing state of the meta that's absolutely what it feels like. Just a thought. Great video as always, Prof.

@Gabriel_Angelus 2 года назад

I agree with you buddy. Meta is changing all the time, and the decks needed a time to be designed, printed and distributed... this decks were archetypes once, and now the meta changed. Additionally to this, the target of this products doesn´t really care if these are top tier archetypes, they just want a good preconstructed deck, good cards and quick fun. And this is my case, I don´t even play tournaments, but having the chance of getting good preconstructed decks from time to time to play with my friends is a great idea. Not to talk about the great mana base the decks got this time...

@FR0STBL0D 2 года назад

... the issue with the decks clearly is ... that they were designed during a time of an unreasonably stalled meta ... with wizards unwilling to deal with it. If they had banned Epiphany back in the day ... the Challenger Decks certainly would look different. If they had chosen not to touch Alrund's Epiphany itself ... the viability of the decks would have been much better. The decline of the dominance of Epiphany decks started in January anyway ... and the banning of Divide by Zero would probably have been enough to reduce the archetype to a reasonable share. A share the Dimir and Gruul decks would profit from. So for the Challenger Decks ... the bannings of Jan 25th were a huge miss.

@seanfriel146 2 года назад

when prof leaves the take in … just wanted to say prof, my friends and I always discuss your videos when they come out, and it’s one of the ways I stay in contact with them. bringing the community together, or should I say … gathering? thank you as always prof for the amazing review on the decks. keep up the amazing work and being a pilar of the community :)

@cjlewis367 2 года назад

As someone who just got into MTG only a few weeks ago, I am actually quite excited. The Gruul Stompy is a surprisingly good fit for what I need, as I just got my budget EDH Tovolar deck. A competitive deck? Far from it. However, this allows me to very easily upgrade my lands to the art I enjoy as well as convert my EDH deck to a decent standard deck for the half of my play group that likes standard, while saving money compared to buying the singles I’d want.

@Catilleon 2 года назад

I've very recently started playing paper Magic again which was fun. What wasn't fun was trying to parse all the product they had which included stores pushing pre-orders for three separate lines including these, New Capenna, and Baldur's Gate. Your videos have been vital to keep everything in order.

@playdead09 2 года назад

Saw this video and reminded me this was released. Was heading home so I stopped by my local game store n bought the dimir control and gruul decks. Those land bases will be used in other shells going forward! Really happy to see full play sets of rare duel lands.

@KnicKnac 2 года назад

I don't play MtG anymore, but your wholesome and chill vibe. Keeps me coming back from time to time. Keep up the positive vibes Professor.

@Its-Lulu 2 года назад

Goooooood morning Prof! Your videos seriously keep me going, the consistency is something my brain needs in such a chaotic time. Thanks :)

@matthewdavis7869 2 года назад

Dimir control is my favorite archetype and this deck has a ton of pieces I’d want to buy. I’m super excited to pick it up and start upgrading!

@ayamamotohaha5235 2 года назад

The blooper take was my favorite. Thank you for everything.

@LTJ 2 года назад

That take you didn't edit was awesome. Had me howling. Bravo Brian.

@OutDoorMillennial 2 года назад

Awesome video... It gives me an idea something you dont see often. I would be hilarious to see a Blooper video of all your little moments. Your videos are always so perfect a little humor couldn't hurt !

@Seben80 2 года назад

Thanks for the review, these are really helpful. I was about to order a couple of these decks but I watched the video and decided to order the pioneer decks you reviewed earlier.

@Robert-iu2ou 2 года назад

Love this channel, prof, always. Love that take w the box you kept in, beautifully human and improvised hilariously!

@Robert-iu2ou 2 года назад

Not to mention how helpful the video is… always interested in these precons!

@SuiSanoo 2 года назад

Preordered the Gruul one when it was revealed and it was shipped today, the Goldspan alone makes me excited, everything else is a goodie on top :)

@ApokalypeTheBeardedBear 2 года назад

This kind of "I am leaving the take in" is a reason why I love your Videos even more. Thanks for your work. Keep it up.

@d31fs0 2 года назад

I was about to order the decks because they looked great and forgot about the magic arena code, but then my inner voice came and said "no no don't do that, wait what the prof says about it" 😂 thanks for the reminder!

@MrZestubo 2 года назад

Thank you for leaving That Take in, it was very entertaining and made my morning.

@TolarianCommunityCollege 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it

@zer0thebreadwiz754 2 года назад

I'm starting a movement, "I'd buy this if it had a Code" will be our modus operandi.

@deadmansshoes 2 года назад

One of the best fumbaliyas I have seen in a long time! Thank you for leaving that one in. Hilarious. And, I bought two of the decks from my LGS.

@JustABrokenToy 2 года назад

might pick up the Dimir one for the Shipwreck Marshes and some other cards that might find their way into my commander decks (looking at you, Hullbreaker Horror). I'm glad they aren't entirely devoid of value this time around, but as always, the standard metagame shifts so much by the time these come out. at least they have some NEO cards in them, which came out after they were initially announced.

@ribbontoast 2 года назад

The thing that impresses me is that they come with the cool looking lands and not just basic basics.

@jakedunton2455 2 года назад

Thanks Prof! I at least appreciate the value that’s in these, even if it’s standard cards. I am hoping that the cmdr products get back on the value train. And they included the full art basics, which is nice.

@jaysherman9138 2 года назад

Thanks for leaving that take in 💖

@vidclicker 2 года назад

Prof laughing after bungling that box handling was the chaos I needed today.

@DiabloMatrix968 2 года назад

Thanks for the review , Always great information

@WolfstarWuzHere 2 года назад

Those are really nice decks based on the snow covered and regular lands they give themselves but also the value of the other cards, is really worth it!

@GToul13 2 года назад

How useful, rich and diverse are the videos in your channel! I love your acting on screen too! We miss your dad! Bring him to another episode! Have him compose an MTG inspired song!

@jameslee9099 2 года назад

I’ve only ever played with standard preconstructed decks going back the Urza block. Maybe I’m stubborn, but this is awesome to see for a self proclaimed extremely casual player.

@WTF-Cubing 2 года назад

The opening riff is so nostalgic to me, it instantly makes me feel good.

@Munchie3777 2 года назад

Good job prof prod of ur editing decisions xd (always love the is it worth it videos as well)

@PsychoEditor 2 года назад

This wasn't on my sub feed, the *pro tour for video led me here?? Thank you professor!!

@TolarianCommunityCollege 2 года назад

Hope you enjoyed it!

@PsychoEditor 2 года назад

@@TolarianCommunityCollege I did! I want to smash the mono white aggro and the dmir decks together to stomp locals

@ChristianYoon 2 года назад

Leaving that take in was genius. Loved it, haha.

@danielstaudt6379 2 года назад

Hm I actually find these pretty great, especially Dimir and Gruul offer a lot of sought after cards. Of course playability in Standard should be a factor with a Standard precon, but we have to keep in mind that Wizards has to design products far in advance, which makes it near impossible to print meta decks in such a fast changing format as standard. This seems obvious when looking at the vampires deck, where they seem to have had no real player data, as it includes the most recent cards. While playability might not allow for a great grade ith should be noted that Wizards didn't skimp on the value this time, which is a big factor for me personally.

@1337awesomeness 2 года назад

When do we get sleeves with our constructed decks? Maybe exclusive sleeves that mirror the core card of the deck? I'd love that

@KlaireMurre 2 года назад

i would love a magic set thing like what pokemon does where you get those really pretty sleeves. those pokemon box set sleeves are so damn nice

@Mars-hs3kf 2 года назад

They did that with a modern precon deck you could buy many years ago, beautiful sleeves, but absolute garbage in quality, they barely lasted one FNM before they started splitting, ended up using them for commanders and gave some away and just put the rest in a box and forgot about them

@1337awesomeness 2 года назад

@@Mars-hs3kf that's so sad but almost worth it all things considered.

@brentkilgore5182 2 года назад

@@KlaireMurre Pokémon does so many things so right. Wotc could really take some notes from it! Codes in everything that give you everything (code for sleeves, coins, etc)

@KlaireMurre 2 года назад

@@brentkilgore5182 it's a shame their game is just not as fun to play.

@heavypoint2770 2 года назад

It is so refreshing to not see an April Fool's video in my subscriber feed and it is luckily another great review video.

@ustrucx Год назад

Thanks for leaving that take in :D

@shirosilverost2542 2 года назад

To be fair to the vampires deck, its doing pretty well at my LGS and is always a close game for my UW control deck. Aggressive early creatures, man lands, and the tokens to cycle makes it hard to outvalue early on. Local version does have a few upgrades over the challenger deck though like the lands, and it is an aggro vs control battle instead of aggro vs aggro or midrange where I have little experience in seeing it play

@tsuyu19ku 2 года назад

Thank you for the video! Since I'm mostly a card collector, for me Dimir Control was an instant buy. And now, speaking of playability, instead of white removal who would ruin the nice mana balance, what about a couple of meathooks, and maybe a sedgemoor witch?

@dcbooster 2 года назад

Dang, I wish I saw this video when it dropped! I saw those decks at my LGS when I swung by today and thought about getting one, but didn't know anything about the contents.

@dac314 2 года назад

ALSO, Prof, you madman, don't forget to mention the inclusion of FULL ART Innistrad Forests & mountains in the Gruul deck! This is the subtle stuff you're supposed to be noting! Those are super sweet includes, it's the details. The flavour.

@thrillhouse4151 2 года назад

I’m surprised there wasn’t some sort of Orzhov one or something with the ghasts and the deadly disputes and whatnot, the dimir and rakdos ones seem quite random.

@OkWizard 2 года назад

I'm looking forward to a nice influx of new Vamps from New Capenna. WotC might have been wary of putting too much powerful vampire support in such a short period, but I'm hoping that it will be more grixis fun!

@scottnito2640 Год назад

Glad to here the mono white deck is solid. I bought this the other day while I work on my own mono swamp deck

@Bearvas 2 года назад

2:35 xD I am glad you have fun! 😁

@bookhunter7375 2 года назад

I do love the awesome alt art lands they've included in the decks

@omniemon Год назад

I managed to grab the gruul stompy deck for 5 bucks from a liquidation sale, its my first deck and I am new to magic so its been nice to see all this info on what it is and what upgrades I can do to it.

@motherofcards293 2 года назад

You should review the new League Battle Decks coming out on June 17th for Pokemon TCG to reinforce the fact that companies are indeed capable of releasing a product that doesn't water down the meta decklist that the deck is based off of as well as include a full product redemption code for digital, all at a budget price for players with included extras.

@FlynnApollo 2 года назад

I got the Gruul one for $20 from my LGS to put into a commander deck. They had a little event where you can play the decks against each other with the entry only being buying the deck. After I heard that and then played the deck in the event, I kept the deck together and upgraded it a bit to play at FNM Standard at my LGS! I am primarily a Brawl/EDH player. I just REALLY wish it came with Arena code like you said :( I play Arena with all my friends over the internet and having this deck would be fun to use against them.

@joshuahowell4785 2 года назад

Loved the included blooper

@jasonbates9624 2 года назад

Love the videos keep up the good work.

@TolarianCommunityCollege 2 года назад

Glad you like them!

@vulpox9948 2 года назад

Pokemon has been doing digital code cards to redeem products in their online digital game for years. I have been saying WotC needs to do this for so long. Another great video!

@CodenameJD 2 года назад

As a commander player, I bought the Gruul deck just to pick up a copy of Goldspan Dragon, because I hadn't wanted to spend that much on the card, but with more and more treasure support it's just getting better - and it practically pays for the deck! Then all the other sweet cards, particularly the dual lands, are a bonus. I was pleasantly surprised to find the black and white Innistrad lands included - certainly a nice counter offer to the snow lands in two of the decks - and a bit baffled by one showcase Kappa Tech-Wrecker alongside one regular frame.

@Dylfunkle 2 года назад

I would have been so hyped for this, if I'd literally even heard they were thinking of doing them...

@KcinTelliam4595 2 года назад

I ended up buying two of these since I’ve been wanting to get back into standard, but building a deck is a bit of a daunting task. Should be fun to play with casually

@chenchaso39 2 года назад

I’m in the same boat. I’m trying to get back into mtg and play with my brothers every once in a while. I also am not a very good deck builder so this might be for me.

@csudab 2 года назад

Prof could you do a video going back over past precons and look at how well they hold their value over multiple years as the secondary market prices change and formats rotate (or people just move on)?

@ZildjianUFO 2 года назад

Prof is too right on this! I would buy every product offered with a code to redeem on arena. Damn that technology!

@TheKingNaesala 2 года назад

XD That take, thank you for the smiles!

@Alikaoz 2 года назад

I got the Dimir deck only for the lands, but I got the Vampires one because it looks fairly easy to turn into a rakdos anvil build. May buy a second for the full land playset.

@poidajfls9491 2 года назад

I love how laid back the Professor is these days 😄👌

@SbenjiB 2 года назад

Congrats on the Kickstarter success!

@TolarianCommunityCollege 2 года назад

Thank you!!

@Robstalobsta82 2 года назад

That is a top tier tie my friend!

@0815Snickersboy 2 года назад

I would like to see a bit more explanation on the how the deck plays when you review one.

@WoodenSwordFighter 2 года назад

I'd love an upgrade guide for the gruul and white decks

@darkblueturbo Год назад

Absolutely agree on the digital code. I’m currently transitioning from Pokemon to Magic. I mainly play online but, with Pokemon league battle decks I could play both at home with the family and online with the same deck. If these challenger decks had a digital code I’d definitely buy, but i don’t have enough in person game time with Magic. My wife and youngest daughter like Pokemon, but have shown no interest in Magic. My 13 year old loves magic, but it’s hard to drag him off the PS5… and when I do he usually destroys me anyway 😂

@P3RDT0 2 года назад

Time to combine all of these Standard precons and the upcoming Pioneer ones for an Ultimate Deck!

@calebedward1281 2 года назад

For a second, you turned into a cat knocking things off of the desk, and it was amazing.

@ardynamberglow3124 Год назад

In defense of the Rakdos vampires deck, there's actually one card that you can add to the deck to make it very potent, that being the "Bloodvial Purveyor" which is a 5/7 flying trample. Ironically enough the Dimir control deck comes with two copies of him in the sideboard. The deck actuallly does pretty well being geared towards an aggro deck and if you have some pretty good early game removal you can just decimate your opponent. I actually managed to win with it on turn 5 of a game.

@galvosaur 2 года назад

thank you for leaving in the meltdown. it was a true comedic treat

@1knight386 2 года назад

I love it when Boromir discusses MTG.

@MTGPringles 2 года назад

I love this guy, he left the take in 💪

@GPGOLDENTEE 2 года назад

Thank you! Was going to FNM tonight & if it's not draft I need to buy a deck. Ill steer clear of these if they have the other challenger decks.

@giokazephyn354 2 года назад

Well it depends what formats they like to play at your local game store. Just remember, the standard decks are playable in pioneer/modern, but the pioneer decks aren’t playable in standard.

@GPGOLDENTEE 2 года назад

@@giokazephyn354 Ok I'll verify, thanks. Last time I played a set was the original Kamigawa block. Commander was a surprise to learn about & I keep calling (I think its Standard) Type 2 in my head lol

@sandeshdhyan7269 2 года назад

Thanks for the good advice.

@burningshinato1473 2 года назад

Was waiting for it since so longc

@Tenshuzente 2 года назад

Thank you for the breakdown

@TheDracoMaritimus 2 года назад

I bought the Gruul deck for the Goldspan for commander. Plus the dual lands and some other cards have a place in a bunch of decks. It’s kind of like buying singles

@felixjorgfrischkemuth7424 2 года назад

I bought the challenger decks with three friends to play something other than Commander again. I got the Dimir deck and I'm very satisfied. After the first two defeats against mono white, I had no problem with the other decks and then only won, which of course didn't cause much joy when Dimir control wins. ;)

@thebraveguy9808 2 года назад

I didn't realize until this video that Iymrith, Desert Storm is spelled with an I as in igloo rather than an L as in Large. I dunno, I guess it just seems so much more natural with an L at the beginning of his name that I've completely overlooked it this whole time.

@1992Hauke 2 года назад

I preordered the Gruuk Deck for 25 bucks and I am pretty happy with it.

@ShredAimlessly92 2 года назад

I was thinking about maybe building an Esper control deck for standard, and the blue and black deck seems like a good springboard to get some of the components together at a discount. I don’t think I expected these to be amazing, for the price I expected them to be good decks for new players or good bases to build proper decks.

@Nopenotyou 2 года назад

Yeah that’s my thought, I don’t care about the deck itself, but it has a lot of components for less that I’d want for other decks.

@A_Closer_Look 2 года назад

It's definitely good value and a good starting base.

@collinrxl9149 2 года назад

Fantastic video

@izzy8371 2 года назад

I was hoping the Mono White Agro would be better. I was waiting for your review but it seems i will build a Thalia, Guardian of Thraben Pioneer and Commander by going with singles now. However i'm one of those who would like to have collections so if i could afford easily these decks i'd get one :')

@jacobhibbard6405 2 года назад

So my current deck is similar to the g/r deck and honestly it holds up super well.

@kccts44 2 года назад

I should be getting my Gruul this week :D

@ryaninzana5640 2 года назад

A redemption code in the paper product would actually get me to download the game again. As a dad of two young kids, I don't have time for the Arena grind and would rather play with the cards I want to play with. Something like this would give me a much better starting jumping off point in going digital... Thanks, Prof, for continuing to make that argument!

@Moravakman 2 года назад

This week - Midweek Magic on MTGA you can test play these decks!! I kinda like the Vampire one :)

@sfquigle 2 года назад

2:33 - absolutely delightful

@elinfiel9053 2 года назад

Does anyone have a list of upgrades for the gruul stompy deck? :) Thank you in advance guys! Thank you for the video prof!

@Clit_Yeastwood 2 года назад

Yeahhh I bought all of these partially because discount but primarily to deconstruct 2 of them to finish decks for different formats and maybe play the other 2 as standard legal because they look fun at least 🤷🏻‍♀️