Is It Worth It To Buy A Kamigawa Neon Dynasty Commander Deck? | Magic: The Gathering 

I was watching the video and I never really knew a lot about sensei’s divining top!

They made a commander deck that cares about equipment but didn't put in Greaves or Boots? Equip 0 is one of the key ways for this commander to modify the tokens it makes, give them a counter so they stay modified, then equip other thing to keep distributing counters.

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I didn't realize there was a kickstarter for a new deckbox 😞 especially if it's been designed by the Professor then it's gonna be awesome. Any chance of a late backer option? I would love to get that signed package since it looks like there was 2 left at the end.

You just know some ****** bean counter popped a gasket at that when he learned customers were actually getting value.

@@nothing4mepls973 right? They accidentally watched this or the command zone and went full throttle Montgomery Burns on the whole op

Funnily enough, Elven Empire remains one of the best out-of-the-box decks in YEARS. I mean, it's hard to make a bad Elf deck given how busted the tribe is but whoever made that deck didn't try to screw the product deliberately

I really wish they produced more of the inexpensive commander decks. They really reduced the barriers for newer players.

As someone who only keeps maybe 20-40 cards from any precon and replaces the rest, the 20 dollar decks were awesome.

They are still far lower than the average Commander Precons. Before 2018 they would put things like Grave Titan, Wurmcoil Engine, Mirari's Wake, and other at the time expensive reprints into the Precons. Now, they won't but they typically find solid niche cards that need reprints and put them in the Precons. Then came the 2018, which banked on the value coming from the new cards and it was a flop. Granted some of those cards are now somewhat expensive, but that also because Wizards won't reprint them so there's a limited number of them. Why Prof is going into value is because at various point the Commander Precon use to be cheaper, and the whole justification for raising the price was because they would put more value into the decks.

I don't even play MTG anymore and I still watch him. Good information and entertaining

@@Srcsqwrn neither do I, but I feel like what The Professor says needs to be heard. I wish he existed when I was buying Magic, maybe then I'd still be playing.

@@WT6X Absolutely. I feel like what the professor does is cut through the BS and tells you how things are from a consumer perspective which is NEEDED with how strong the capitalist structure works for MTG.

I remember watching him when he first started and was still teaching, it wasn't too long after I started playing and got super interested in it, with his help to spike the interest even more

The professor isn't always correct, but does offer a good enough job by offering consistency and high quality with each new video. Dare I say, these videos even give you an idea of what to expect. maybe his opinions are or are not adequate enough, but at least you're going to get a decent idea of where all things Commander are at.

I agree, they're way more practical than the oversized foils

Yeah I really don’t see the point of oversized cards

What do you do if the card is somehow bounced into you deck, though?

@@sailordaigurren8225 can’t happen anymore unless you physically choose it to and most commanders have no reasonable scenario for that.

exactly !

Or even blood-forged battle-axe, which would be great for the go-wide part. Or a new one you could show bounce for value, which has been, RARELY, a red thing to do. Sadness.

Hahaha why would they do that when people literally showed wotc that they'd pay $100 for VIP boosters with Double Masters.

@@zztzgza the whales 🐋

They literally took out the swords from Gavin’s deck in the secret lair

Yeah but if you fill it up with swords there's no room left for 30 basic lands. These decks run more basics than the mono colored precons

and the single-plane commander releases are sad! I loved being surprised by seeing what would be included and referenced.

because commander is crap. its only for casual play. when will people realize this! none of the cards are tournament legal; if they have that commander symbol on them. the only reason some of those commander cards are high priced; is becuase people still buy the commander product. once that stops. the commander variants will tank in price. just watch.

@@ChickenMcThiccken Ignoring the fact that they are legal in vintage and legacy, they hold value because commander is fun for most players. Not everything has to be competitive to be valuable.

@@alicekjer6676 Right? If Wizards wanted people to play 60 card competitive they'd reprint the damn landbases in meaningful quantity. It's the #1 thing keeping people out of several formats. Commander is the game in social mode for a reason, the politics and unexpected plays in Commander is vastly different to netdecking modern and playing 1v1.

@@ChickenMcThiccken You’re completely false in saying the cards aren’t tournament legal. As long as it’s a reprint of a card legal in whatever format it can be played. Who actually told this? Also not everything is about competitive, it’s a game (you know, meant for fun). Shit some of my funnest games were playing kitchen table with 100+ card decks that had questionable strats.

Ahahahahaha, “bummed out”, I’ve given up hope ever seeing a much needed reprint in these money grabber… I mean precons.

just looked at the price on that one comparitively before this vid and damn

my brain is telling me no. why waste money on commander cards? please explain?

I think the money is better spent buying an older commander deck or just buying the singles.

@@leandroP2323 NO COMMANDER. they're not tournament legal. its only for casual play. invest in non commander cards.

@@ChickenMcThiccken 1) Commander cards are legacy and pauper legal. There have been commander cards that have broken those formats. 2) CEDH exists. 3) Not everyone plays competitively.

@@ChickenMcThiccken The most played format is Commander. What you think is important does not match Wizard’s own data.

even with a reprint. the price of smothering tithe would go down by like a dollar at best.

Smothering Tithe is really unfun to play against so I think WOTC is trying to sweep it under the rug and will never reprint it. At least that's what I'm hoping, in sitting on a small fortune of them.

@@snackplaylove it's been my best Modern investment to date. I got absolutely spanked by that Augustine III

What's sad is this most likely means the cards were completely replaced on the print sheet, not even just left out in assembly.

it's mostly hyped as a combo piece instead of a removal spell. I for one think the T3 infinite mana combo with devoted druid is pretty busted...

@@wukevin4027 Oh, that makes sense. I can also see it as good protection for a lot of creatures that don't need to attack. I would be happy if someone turned my Tovolar into a vehicle with it.

My god the painlands. Does anyone know why they're so hesitant to reprint the ally cycle in any capacity, whereas the enemy cycle gets to be some of the cheapest rare duals on the market?

@@rejected1s honestly wizards is trash at reprints . At this point I just proxy anything that isn’t reprinted because it’s just not worth the prices

@@rejected1s I cannot comprehend why they haven't reprinted those yet. Truly, mind boggling.

That makes two 🤙🏻

Haduken!

I dont play the game physically so for me it would be for collection, so videos showing their value are really good to know whats worth it and whats not.

They don't need to. Ninjas are already ridiculously strong and it would become the Edgar Markov situation, where the deck would get easily hemoginized

Then that would mean that they'd have to print a Yuriko but worse and nobody wants that.

1) They already have 2+ ninja commanders. 2) Ninjas got good representation in the set. They have stated that these precons are designed to expand on themes from the set that don't have enough representation. Blood tokens, spirits, decayed, and whatever the green white mechanic was from Midnight Hunt didn't have much representation in their set.

@@k9commander It was called Coven, but the fact you couldn't remember what it was called probably says all that needs to be said about how much representation Coven got in Midnight Hunt.

satoru umazawa is in the main set and nothing excepting a reprint looking at you commander ninjustu will be a better ninja commander

Reviewing new cards is a shitshow for the most part. There are just too many cards in MTG to really be able to take all interactions and synergies into account. Just have to wait to see how they play. I watch various people do new card reviews.... they are rarely if ever correct as to what the most powerful cards will be.

I'd wait, but my LGS never discount these things

Honestly I bought the deck myself and it was a lot of fun to play. Unfortunately im not really an artifact player so vehicles seem weird right off the bat in terms of my play style. Just nice to be building a gundam themed deck now

@@whackify Oh yeah for sure, I'm going to build it to theme as well, but will add power pieces. Me not being able to turn off the competitive building in me, I'll probably litter a couple of unique combos that win. The Stations, for instance.

Spouse and I bought both the decks and the Azorius deck annihilated the Gruul deck b03. The Gruul is slow to get ramped up, at least it was for me, where the Azorius is ready to throw down after 3-4 turns. It was hard to sit there and get walloped while trying to get enough mana to play my cards.

I bought the Azorius mecha deck, tons of fun, you can combo aetherflux reservoir with kotori and katsumasa for theoretically infinite 50 damage if you buy a copy of atherflux.

I own every commander precon unedited and it is fun to sit down with people and just pick random decks every time. Every game is different and fresh, nobody rules the table, and we all have fun

I would be interested in hearing this mentioned as well. When I pre-ordered Buckle Up I was shocked that I could get it at a discounted rate. It's the only way that I want to buy precons going forward. I don't see why the alternate packaging isn't talked about more.

They're currently Amazon exclusive, I believe. Whilst I totally agree that the packaging is hugely preferable to the full size ones (and they're a product I'm buying when available because I want them to make more!), I would say many players would prefer to support their LGS or a dedicated online seller rather than Amazon

@@keithchristmas7315 Supporting an LGS is a very good point. I definitely feel bad being on a budget, but at least I can support my LGS when I get my upgrades.

@@keithchristmas7315 I agree with the LGS point, but my comment was actually regarding the “Bundles” (aka fat packs), which is my fault for commenting it on a precon video as makes it confusing, only as I received my bundle today. They’ve removed the plastic wrapping and a lot of the excess waste they had on them while still being vibrant and appealing, more so even, hopefully they take this same approach with the precons so they can bring them into the LGS while still looking good on the shelf.

@@ArkaosM ah, fair enough. That's on me, didn't read your comment properly

+ you get to use the proxy with the deck and put the original in a different one...

Same here: I love the new "proxy" commander cards. They fit into a regular sleeve, can be transported in a regular deck box and they don't bend/warp as easy as the foil commanders do.

Same. I got a giant Kairi card at the prerelease and it was a pain to carry back home. Looks good on the wall though :)

They should just give you one in foil and one in foil etched instead of a thicc piece of cardboard that is effectively garbage

They would recall the product for sure before u even can say "where is my niassa?", since its good for the customer not them.

I actually hate the signet land cycle so much haha. They make sense with some mana doublers and are garbage elsewhere.

@@meteora5576 It might also get them sued by the same people who were outraged that Survival of the Fittest got reprinted as a Judge Promo, so definitely not something we can hope for.

Are they worth it?

@@Tom-bb3fm I don't know card kingdom don't put out deck lists. So I don't know what cards come in them.

Replace those silly proxy cards with a painted mini

I approve this motion

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nice!

Azorius Talisman and Azorius Painland would have been enough, they are skyrocketing in price for ths stupidiest of reasons

When the mana base and fixing is the most expensive part of tbe game ToT

​@@SSolemn Speaking as one who *can* afford that kind of ramp (no cEDH tier though), price is only half the problem. There's a reason my recent attempt to build a Syr Gwyn deck (Mardu Knights Equipment matters) ended with a loud curse and me building a Siona deck (Selesnya Enchantment Voltron) instead. A [Cultivate, Rampant Growth, Kodama's Reach, Harrow, Sakura Tribe Elder, Farseek, Diligent Farmhand...] package beats a [Wayfarer's Bauble, Mind Stone, Fractured Powerstone, Worn Powerstone, Fellwar Stone, Star Compass, Hedron Archive, Commander's Sphere, Thran Dynamo, Everflowing Chalice, Heraldic Banner, Gilded Lotus, Seal of the Guild Pact, Sword of the Animist, Talismans of Color, Signets of Color, Diamonds of Color, Myrs of Color, Lockets of Color...] package in every conceivable way. (And may God have mercy on your wallet if you run mono-black... my Urborg Tomb of Yawgmoth + Cabal Coffers combo ran me about $50. And don't get me started on Necropotence...) Green has so many good ways to ramp that are safer, better, and cheaper than the artifact route that you usually don't need much more than Sol Ring, Arcane Signet, and possibly Solemn Simulacrum. I don't even _like_ Green. I just feel like I _need_ Green because the alternative is more expensive. (And if running Green, you _will_ run Beast Within. Why _wouldn't_ you?) And because non-Green ramp dies to an errant sneeze (which you may not have even provoked; maybe somebody put down a Dictate of Erebos or Panharmonicon and half your mana base just happened to be collateral damage), better run Blue and the Counterspell package (Counterspell, Negate, Disdainful Stroke, Arcane Denial, Disruption Protocol, season to taste...). So if you don't run Green, either become a control deck or lose to board wipes. That's why Mardu, with neither Green nor Blue, is such hell to build. Your ramp is strictly inferior _and_ you can't even protect it (let alone use Blue's exceptional draw suite) with counters. Enjoy spending most of the deck running permanent recursion, protection, and Flickertron instead of your commander's _actual_ strategy. And don't forget the panic button (Teferi's Protection)! If your wallet isn't crying, you will be crying when 90 of your 99 (or 52 of your 61 if you don't count lands) is just the same interchangeable package of removal, board wipes and card draw that _every_ deck in white, black or red runs. You know the names: Blasphemous Act. Chaos Warp. Chain Reaction. Magus of the Wheel. Terminate. Swords to Plowshares. Path to Exile. Generous Gift. Go For the Throat. Phyrexian Arena. Damnation. Winds of Abandon. Cleansing Nova. Faithless Looting. Esper Sentinel. Dockside Extortionist. And many, many more. Some are cheap, some are Dockside Extortionist, but they're all functional. Every card is a tried and tested meta staple. In fact, there's even been some white ramp joining the party in more recent years (Archaeomancer's Map, Smothering Tithe, Knight of the White Orchid...). But that portion of your deck has all been decided for you long before you started brewing, and it's all so generic that it's unlikely to mesh with your strategy, which makes deck building super boring...

I run Dimir, Esper and Mardu decks, and also Bant, Jund and Simic decks, so I know what you mean... I am just angry that lands and Talismans are SO expensive, because they should be printed in a massive way to keep them available and cheap. Even then Nature's Lore, Farseek and Three Visits are not less than $3 each, so very much artifact like, the thing is the contract protecting lands. (In Mardu I always run Boros Charm, they should make some similar cards to protect the stones xD)

Naw that means everyones gonna have the same commander decks I prefer monthly:)

Same. Id rather play with the proxy and save the legit card for the collection or in another deck especially if it ends up being expensive down the line

The big ones were kind of... interesting. Every one I got, I dutifully put into one of the big deck boxes, which now sits in a drawer and is basically never touched any more since no new cards are being added. Pretty things with zero use.

Agreed.

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I’ve made mecha anime pilot alters for myself because I literally want to go full Gundam on this. I’ve got Mechtitan Core on the way too.

Thank you too!

Glad to hear it!