Andrea Wiliams does a great job to avoid answering the "would Jesus be at the forefront to fight for gay rights?" question... but even better realising that the example she was trying to make was very retrograde and backpedaled...Was she really comparing being gay with the deaf that Jesus magically cured? So was she implying that being gay is a sickness... right?
Patrick Parker Heaven won't be fun either - according to the book : you won't be you as you are .You'll just be a empty human devoid of freewill - praising a character that is narcissistic .
I love how that woman’s keeps talking about Easter as if it’s not underpinned by pagan beliefs, even the name Easter is the name a pagan goddess, but then she has the cheek to say the whole of history hangs on Jesus 🤦🏾♂️
It’s basic ignorance. If she picked up her book and found out where actual Easter comes from and how her beloved religion kidnapped this practice of Easter.... Actually.... She’s still be stuck where she is. There are two kinds of religious people. Those that are uneducated, and ignorant. Then there are those who have a need to follow whatever or whoever is in that sect, irrespective of it defying all logic or opposing evidence. Those are the ones who are lost causes.
Literally none of what you said is true. Easter is the 3rd day after the Jewish Passover because Jesus was a Jew who was arrested and killed while in Jerusalem for the Jewish Passover celebration.
What arrogance... he gave his life for everyone. This woman is either ignorant or delusional, probably both. Definitely the kind that you cannot reason with. She just keeps on spouting crap, even the responding lady is trying to rope her in, but the cuckoo has flown the coup. The rest of the audience must be too dumbstruck to even respond. Ok, I will concede. Your imaginary skydaddy sidekick can be whatever or whoever you want him to be. There, happy now. Here's your doll, go play housy, housy.
Then she speaks about the calendar as if we didnt know our calendar is based on the gregorian calendar
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People need to read professor Bart D. Ehrman more. Today we know that it's true, there indeed was a guy 2000 years ago preaching some weird stuff and that's all. No magic, no sons of god, no water into wine, no resurrection, no supernatural intervention. Just one social justice warrior nailed on a cross in the middle of the nowhere.
Patrick Parker Your believe is a forgery based on other myths and many years of mistranslation from old Hebrew to Greek ( where a lot of terms were borrowed e.g tartarus and hades ) and finally to English .It's a long corrupt story that tries to be original but when investigated carefully - the veil in lifted and one can see so many copy right violation .
He talks a load of bull , the bible is the most reliable and coherent book in history , all he is is a God hating reprobate who will pay with his soul .
Talking snakes , Noah's flood ( Just scientifically stupid ) , a lot Incestuous relationships that somehow didn't create severe genetic mutation to the off springs ( incestuous act isn't stable to make an entire species by the way ) , talking donkeys and about 300 + inconsistencies .Yeah it is so "reliable" and "coherent" book - Friend - you don't know what's a good book . Spoilers : your religion seem to have similar myths as older and contemporary cultures at that time - Odd isn't it ? Dude - How far is your brain up your butt ?
You are too reprobate to know any different , if you looked into your own belief system [ evolution ] , you wouldn't dare make a comment on the bible , or goldilocks and the three bears for that matter , so dumb is the theory .
The Rambler Well Jesus is part God,God part Jesus according to the Trinity isn't he? God sent himself in human form to be sacrificed, so that God didn't have to punish everyone for breaking a rule that God himself made up in the first place. Apparently God can't forgive unless be beats himself up first.
The Rambler Your analogy is wrong. Judges don't make laws. and even if they did, the question would be. Do judges send their son/selves to be killed so they don't have to punish someone else for breaking a law they made up themselves? Remember God himself made the rule that death would be the punishment for sin. He then sacrificed his son/self to prevent himself from having to carry out the punishment, which he made up himself. And people worship this? This is the equivalent of thanking your abusive spouse for NOT beating you up. Are you really being "saved" when it was God himself that decided what the punishment would be? If I decide not to beat you up, I haven't "saved" you from being beaten up. So who and what are you being saved from?
Crazy prayingmantis God required a sacrifice for sins on a yearly basis through the authority of the Jewish temple by the shedding of a lambs blood. 40 years after Jesus was crucified, the Romans destroyed the temple and the Jews were dispersed throughout the whole world until 1948 when Israel became a nation. Until now, the temple hasn't been rebuilt, and sacrifices are not properly performed according to Jewish law. When Jesus said he was the sacrifice for man's sins, that he was the Lamb of God, and from that time on ( his birth and death) only Gods blood would redeem man from his sins. The three persons of the triune nature of God are essential to bring man to salvation. So God had to be born in the flesh to shed his blood for us...... Think about it, the temple sacrifices were no more just as Jesus came into the world. Coincidence?
the real big question i see here is would the BBC be asking the same question about the prophet Mohammed cause for some reason i don't think they would
no they haven't what are you talking about it's a debate show they are having this debate about Jesus but it is clear that if it was the same about the prophet muhammed it wouldn't be allowed anywhere near the BBC
When alot of these people grew up bible study and religious education would have been taught alongside critical thinking. Also lunatics in an asylum.... No need to attack their character. People turn to all sorts of things in life, drink, drugs, computer games, religion. Let people get on with what makes them happy instead of being horrible on RU-vid.
Mostly silliness. Of course the character is up for interpretation-- his story is derived from a collection of writings penned over 2000 years ago. Why do some people think that because the character means so much to them that he should mean much to others?
God came to earth in a form of man called jesus? So logically you could say, this body of Christ is just a vessel. Then why do people worship the vessel instead of GOD who is in heaven?
Some Bible Verses that show Jesus is God Some people claim to believe that Jesus was a “good prophet”, but they deny that Jesus is God. If that is you, I would like to encourage you to consider some of these Bible verses: Matthew 1:23 - “Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which is translated, “God with us.” Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Isaiah 43:10,11 - “You are My witnesses,” says the Lord, “And My servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me. I, even I, am the Lord, and besides Me there is no Savior.” Revelation 1:17-18; Revelation 2:8 - (Jesus is the First and the Last) Isaiah 44:6 - (God is the Redeemer) 2 Peter 1:1 (Jesus is the Redeemer) - “To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ” Isaiah 44:24 - (God created the world by Himself alone) John 1:3; Colossians 1:16 - (Jesus made all things) John 1:1-3 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made... 1:14 - And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, John 5:17,18 - “My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.” Therefore the Jews sought to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God. John 5:23 - that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him. John 8:24 - “Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I AM [He], you will die in your sins.” John 8:58 - Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” John 10:30-33 - Jesus answered them, “I and My Father are one.” Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?” The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.” John 14:6-7 - Jesus said to him, “I AM the way, the truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.” John 14:9-11 - Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'?” John 20:28 - And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” Acts 4:12 - “Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” Acts 20:28 - (God purchased us with His own blood) Revelation 1:5-6; Revelation 5:8-9 - (Jesus' blood purchased us) Philippians 2:5-7 - Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bond-servant, and coming in the likeness of men. Colossians 2:9 - For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily 1 Timothy 3:16 - And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory. Titus 2:13 - looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ Hebrews 1:8-9 - But to the Son He says: “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom. You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You with the oil of gladness more than Your companions.” 2 John 1:7 - For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. Revelation 1:8 - “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” Revelation 22:13 - “I AM the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”... 22:16 - “I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches.” 1 Timothy 6:14-16 - “our Lord Jesus Christ's appearing, which He will manifest in His own time, He who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see, to whom be honor and everlasting power. Amen.” Hebrews 2:17-18 - “Therefore, in all things He had to be made like His brethren, that He might be a merciful and faith
@@buddalafakeer79can you discuss against faith in Modi's India? A country were you can get killed for eating a cow? I have the utmost respect for Hinduism but today it's a weapon of authoritarianism
@Paul Morgan There is nothing imaginary about him at all , and remember you the one who believes everything came from nothing , that's imagination for you .
@Paul Morgan That's exactly what you believe so does he , nothing means no thing plain and simple, seems you just cant get that can you , but there again the likes of you and him can't tell the difference between a male and female anymore so why should I be surprised .
Religion uses human empathy to reel people in. Jesus being nailed to the cross is felt as real by followers and that convinces them it is true. I only just saw a movie where a woman stood on a nail and I am still feelling as though it was me. That is what religion does. Story that "survived". They are edited version of myths. God above people, that is the danger of religion when people are second to religion.
Most atheist historian scholars admit Jesus existed. I was a hardcore atheist. My buddhist friend had an OBE and met Jesus, then became christian. My 2 other friends met Jesus during NDE/OBE. I researched and hundreds, globally, met jesus during NDE, regardless of beliefs, atheists, muslims etc. Then I prayed to Jesus, he took away my addictions, & healed my sister instantly. Jesus is the only way. No other way. Seek Jesus, your creator. He loves you to death. Only Jesus can save you from the eternal hell torture.
Our calendar is measured on Christ, only because it was changed 535 years after his death. In 44BC the month of July was renamed in honour of Julius Caesar the same year that he died. It wasn't until the 8th century that England heard about the new calendar and it took centuries for it to catch on.
My dad told me we started conting years forward but you got the whole Info, I cried when I read baby Bible as kid, always read again to see can it be changed, again cried because little soul knew it hurt to fight back
Jesus is the king of kings. He walked these lands and will return as judge to mankind. Seek and you shall find! Jesus is the only way to salvation! Turn away from your sins! This world needs the Lord more than ever.
Any particular reason why God sent himself down to Earth as his own son to save Man from his sins when he, God himself had already drowned every man, woman and child on the planet? Why was God daft enough to create a Universe of which 99.999999999999% will never be known by Man? You have to love religion, the daftest subject ever created. By the way, what is the definition of religion?
“I think that anybody who advocates infinite punishment or infinite rewards for finite crimes and deeds is morally inferior. I think that anybody who is supposedly omniscient and omnipotent and omnibenevolent who creates a system knowing that people are not going to be able to live up to its standards, spends an eternity punishing them … and the only loophole that the creator of all the laws of the universe can come up with - why didn’t he just forgive everybody or change the laws? - but instead he has to create a loophole where he comes down bodily and sacrifices himself to himself to act as a loophole for a rule that he created. It’s absurd. It is laughably absurd. And it’s immoral.” - Matt Dillahunty he nail it
What i find crazy is, people who are not prophets or Messiahs of God Almighty, Yet,.... they feel it be offensive with the privilege or making it awkward for other followers of Different, and the same,... To clap or support each-other,..... Guys... it's ONE GOD......omg...
13:56 Is he bloody serious? We know hardly anything about Jesus (especially his younger years) to the point where its not 100% proven he actually existed!
And what does JC say... you will be hated in my name, I will spit you out if you are luke warm, cut off your hand if it causes you to sin, take out your eyes if you lust, I will separate mother from daughter....Doesn't that seem extreme ?.. I stopped going to church years ago.
my question is... why are there more students of Prophets and Messiahs..... with more judgement and stones to cast upon another, than there are True Prophets and Messiahs ? Fair enough ? 11/09/2021
If they do then great. If they don't then why is it a worry to you? There's plenty of evidence to show jesus existed and people talk by gravestones of people that have passed away all the time. Seek jesus and you will find
Most atheist historian scholars admit Jesus existed. I was a hardcore atheist. My buddhist friend had an OBE and met Jesus, then became christian. My 2 other friends met Jesus during NDE/OBE. I researched and hundreds, globally, met jesus during NDE, regardless of beliefs, atheists, muslims etc. Then I prayed to Jesus, he took away my addictions, & healed my sister instantly. Jesus is the only way. No other way. Seek Jesus, your creator. He loves you to death. Only Jesus can save you from the eternal hell torture.
@@jamiebirkett5305 A bloke named Jesus may have lived , but to claim supernatural powers and 'son of God' claims is stretching it a bit. Not even Jews and Muslims believe this, hence the churches anti semitic doctrine down the ages. Actually very little written about him in your holy book. Nothing on his boyhood, teenage years , early man hood, description etc. The idea that Jimmy Savile will be in heaven and Sir David Attenborough in hell on account of accepting / not accepting Jesus is repugnant and immoral.
the sword that Jesus comes with is the word. In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.. so the sword is the word
denis avdic Stop your invisible battles - it's like child's playing with imaginary friend and fighting imaginary villains . Don't you not see - it's way too late to be like that ?
denis avdic You are : (A) Liar . (B) Mistaken or Fantasizing (C) A case of Schizophrenia ; early stage . - I'm not accusing you of anything ...just read and ask yourself is this so ? If you pick C or would like to test for C - go to a psychologist or psychiatrist for assistance .B - Don't desperately delude yourself - reality can be appreciated for what it is. A - you'll need to be honest with yourself and provide objective support for your believe system .
Dark Energy i will go with while you have one finger pointed at me you have more fingers pointing at you and and all these people that believe what do you say to them?
Does she know the whores story was added later on only found in newer manuscripts..also Jesus dying for our sins is not forgiveness...in death I’ve enacted the full price
At 8:22 minutes in that one lady tries so hard to reason her delusion and religious insanity. Imagine watching your child who did not follow Jesus burn for eternity while your sitting there singing Jesus loves me.
Name another religion where God was born as a vulnerable human baby, yet has the same potency and has stood the test of time.It's a bit of a no brainer.
Jesus would've been like any other jew in his time, militant and a zealot, trying to violently oppose the roman occupation. It would've been an anathema in their religion to have an alien presence, culture or peoples other then themselves in their midst. After all this was their and their God's holy land. They were God's holy people to be kept separate and inviolate from other peoples. And therefore no room for outsiders. 'The loving your neighbour as yourself and turning the other cheek' was addressed to a close knit community whom he saw as his family. Judaism is a land based religion. No heaven and hell, just the land or the real estate which was their religion and God the estate agent, handing over the land to them. Yahweh was very tribalistic and warlike with fire breathing nostrils, especially against other tribes and their gods, his brothers in the divine family. The Elohim. They were not to worship them, for he was a jealous god. They were to worship only him. This was stipulated in a contract, the covenant they agreed to. He went by the titles of the 'Divine Warrior' and the 'Man O War' at the Head of his Army. And when a tribe won, it mean't that their god defeated the other tribe's god. Jesus militancy would hardly show up if at all in the gospels unless reading between the lines because they would've been whitewashed by the roman authorities in order for them and their ruling to be seen in a better light for future generations to come.
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them who despitefully use you, and persecute you; Jesus Matthew 5:44
Isaiah 53:5, he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes, we are healed. For salvation, people just need to follow the way they did it in Acts? They were baptized in the water and of the spirit. Here's why! The gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. If we are to follow him, we must do the same thing. Death= repentance, Burial = baptism, and resurrection = being filled and rising again from the dead. That's what Acts 2:38 is. We must obey the gospel, 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9, in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that OBEY NOT THE GOSPEL of our Lord Jesus Christ... Matthew 7:21-23, Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of Heaven; but he that DOETH THE WILL OF MY FATHER which is in Heaven. St John 3:3-5, EXCEPT a man be born of WATER AND OF THE SPIRIT, he cannot enter into the kingdom of GOD. We can't come up with our own gospel. Galatians 1:8-9, But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Don't be cursed. One way for all people. Jews, Gentiles, and Samaritan. Our salvation has to match-up with the scriptures and no scriptures on the subject can be taken away. Eternity is TOOO long to be WRONG! st John 5:39, Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. The gospels show what Christ has done on the cross for us. The book of Acts shows us the beginning of Christ's Church and how to enter the Church, obeying Acts 2:38. The letters were written to the Church to show us how to behave now that we are born again into the Church. It's better to walk alone than to walk with a crowd going in the wrong direction. Are we supposed to follow the teachings of the apostles? Acts 2:42, They continued steadfastly in the apostle's doctrines. Ephesians 2:20, We are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief cornerstone. If you believe in this message, help spread it in the name of Jesus Christ. God bless you!
Virtue signal much? Why do Christians believe that spewing a bunch of religious text is in some way amazing, helpful, or persuasive. For unbelievers it is just a wall of text and you might as well be copy pasting a paragraph or two from Harry Potter.
LOl, you can believe whatsoever you want. I'm not mad at you about your belief. You still going to bow down to God on that day. My message is for whosoever will. If it's not for you then leave it alone. There were and are way more people that like and hear the message. Shall I stop warning the people just because you letting the devil use you to try to stop me? In no way! God's words are amazing and very helpful and persuasive. Thank you!
Get the Targum Jonathan and read to understand the Hebrew interpretation of that Isaiah passage. That passage has no prophetic attachment to Jesus. It’s only the late comers to the Jewish faith (Christians) that are attributing the passage as prophetic understanding of Jesus. Also the Isaiah passage only talked about Israel and does not mention or has anything to do about Jesus. It’s also widely understood that no Jew believed in a crucified messiah long before the time of Jesus and Jews in history believed that any messiah that would come to liberate and establish the kingdom of Israel would come as a warrior.
jesus is not extremist in any field of generations because jesus was just as he was always it means he will be same side in today's world he is always just saying who he is son of God.
Jesus would not be considered an extremist even in our world. Just to look back, he never portrays any extremist practices in his time. Regarding gays, he may, in our time, speak of their rights as humans. He may speak against abuse towards them and invite them and all of us to conversion.
The god of the bible endorses homophobia, he also endorses sexism and child abuse and animal cruelty. On top of that he endorses slavery with set rules based on ethnicity and gender. Jesus is supposed to be this god and he adds not to plan for the future and abandon your family, he makes a weapon and goes nuts at tax collectors. He talks about eternal suffering if you don't tow the line. Jesus assuming real was an apocalypsic death cult leader.
Rishi This first of all you do realise the 2nd Crusades where the Catholics attacked the Muslims was a response to the first crusade when the hateful radical Muslims attacked the Christians. Secondly Catholics were also heavily discrimated
Is there any particular reason why God founded both Christianity and Islam, resulting in Man constantly fighting? In book 1, Genesis, of the Bible "and God was sorry he made Man".
This topic needed someone who really thinks rationally , logically, and lives in a real world.... ATHIEST maybe....?because seems like everyone one here actually believes the character of JESUS in the fiction of the new testament ACTUALLY EXISTED....
George chabeli well an overwhelming number of Greco-Roman historians would say he existed. In fact, of 1,400 papers by notable academics from reputable universities, the ratio of saying he existed to those saying he did not exist is 3-1
Shaun Lee,, again that's just another claim without solid evidence my friend. I bet none of those Greco-Romans were raised from birth outside of faith in Jesus or the Christian religion...
George chabeli well since you asked for solid evidence I shall oblige, but perhaps you too should have some solid evidence to back up your position The survey of academic work on this subject from 1975 was done by Dr Gary Habermas who surveyed ALL THE WORKS from eminent professors from major universities. This included both atheist and Christian scholars. Let us name some Bart Ehrman, Bultzmann, richard carrier, Robin Fox. Let us be even more specific then For example, German works of approximately the last 30 years include Hans Conzelmann,Willi Marxsen,Gerd Lüdemann,Ingo Broer,and the early Rudolf Pesch.But they also encompass more numerous works by Wolfhart Pannenberg,Jürgen Moltmann,Martin Hegel,Jacob Kremer,Walter Künneth,and Ulrich Wilckens. Examples of the French writings would be the works of Francis Durrwell,Xavier Leon-Dufour,and Jean-Marie Guillaume. How many more do you need me to name before I have "solid evidence"?
“I tell you, on that night there will be two men in one bed: one will be taken, the other left.” - (Luke 17: 34) - “Pass no judgement, and you will not be judged. For as you judge others, so you will yourselves be judged, and whatever measure you deal out to others will be dealt back to you.” - (Matthew 7: 1-2) -
That bit where the woman said Jesus stopped someone from being stoned to death is totally wrong. The story only appears in John's Gospel (a Gospel as far removed from the historical Jesus as it is possible to get). Studies have shown the story has been inserted later. Jesus said, "You change NOTHING in the Laws of Moses and the prophets." "He who changes the smallest of the Laws will be least in heaven." "You change not a jot or a tittle of the Laws." "Do NOT think I have come to change the Laws..I have not. Rather I have come to fulfill them." Horrible little man with his evil laws. Stoning children to death for drinking too much. Forcing women to marry their rapists. Stoning to death people who work on the Sabbath (which to a Jew would be a Saturday). Stoning to death girls who are not virgins when they marry. Incidentally there is a good video on RU-vid about John's Gospel called "Biggest Lie - The 4th Gospel."
Jesus is God in human flesh. Jesus gave the Law of Moses that teaches that Homosexuality is sin. Jesus didn't come to condemn but to save, for we have all sinned in some way and therefore we all need to repent on sin and call on Jesus for forgiveness and salvation. To give our lives to Jesus is to receive life now and eternal life. To refuse to repent is to stay dead in your sins and to fall into hell, to face judgment, and to be cast into the eternal lake of fire. God loves us enough to come and save us. Look at the cruel cross.
Check your sources, he is a myth. You are repeating stories that non witnesses said about their religion. Paul had a non earth jesus and the gospels are late and non sources.
He loves us enough to save us from the sin he originally condemned us to.... .....but only if you accept him as your lord and saviour! If not, he’ll burn you in hell for all eternity! 🤗
Chris Thompson and your evidence that this is not true is? On the other hand in an analysis of 1,400 articles written on this topic since 1976, both Christian and Atheist scholars overwhelming state that Jesus is one of the most attested to characters in Greco-Roman history..
No. Julius Cesar, Augustus Cesar, Plato, Aristotle, Alexander the Great, Darius i, Xerxes 1, dozens of Egyptian Pharoahs...these are a tiny fraction of people who's lives were contemporarily infinitely more documented than the supposed Jesus of Nazareth. Since 1976? Lol wtf happened in 1976? You are probably on some crackpot website talking about something that happened then.
well let us examine your claims one by one: 1. Why after 1976.. this is because we are looking at contemporary scholarship on this matter. We don't want to visit crackpot theories (as you do claim) that do not have any solid basis or understanding of the time period. For example, due to the anti-semantic sentiment in the late 19th century all the way to the end of the world wars, Germany theologians were reluctant to acknowledge that Jesus had many Jewish traits. I mean by analogy wouldn't you want the most up to date scientific data and consensus? Or would you rather cite newton instead of Einstein of physics? 2. Crackpot website, well this number I got from Dr Gary Habermas's (one of the experts on New Testament history from Liberty University). He has cited name and date of the articles he has talked about and include eminent scholars like Bultzman, Thomas Torrance, James Dunn, Richard Swinburne, NT Wright. These are all from prestigious universities like Oxford etc. Perhaps you could explain to me why these great professors are all crackpots? 3. The individuals you have mentioned. Well perhaps I should elaborate more that we need comprehensive AND reliable biographies of these individuals. Not everything said about the characters can be taken as fact and not everything said on a one line inscription is considered comprehensive. The individuals mentioned have numerically less and far more unreliable sources then the gospels in the following ways: a. Date of the first comprehensive biography is much later for most Greco-Roman persons. The biographies of Julius Caesar we rely on the most by Tacitus and suetonius were more then a hundred years after this death. Sources we rely on to know about Alexander the Great like Plutarch was only written more then 400 years after this death. For Plato, we get most of this information from Diogenes Laërtius who lived 600 years after Plato died. For Darius 1, the most often relied upon document is Histories by Herodotus which was written about a thousand years after. Before that all we have are inscriptions that said they existed or one battle they were in without more. Conversely, the biographies of Jesus were dated 35 years after his death. B. Superior manuscript evidence. Recent indications are that the New Testament is supported by more than 5500 copies and partial copies in Greek and other languages, while most ancient classical Greek and Roman texts have fewer than 10 each. Moreover, there is comparatively little significant variation between these manuscripts, even when they are derived from different textual families. While this extraordinary quantity and quality of the available texts does not tell us if the New Testament writings are historically reliable, most scholars think that the far more manuscripts and portions do indicate that we essentially have what the authors originally wrote. C. Infinitely more documented. Well let us get into the numbers. Other then the manuscript superiority (which already disproves your point) Jesus' life was documented by 4 gospels, 8 Pauline books which most scholars agree were attributed to paul (there are others but i have left them out for brevity sake) and sources like Josephus, Tacitus, Pliny and Syrian writers of the time. The individuals you have mentioned above have no contemporaneous sources and we rely on far less separate documents then those we rely on for Jesus. So how can they be more documented if less documents talk about them, they have less manuscripts documenting their life and the documents talking about them were removed by hundreds of years? Wouldn't they fit more into your narrative of a crackpot talking of something that happened then? Love to hear your alternative sources
Chris Thompson I suppose why bother citing historical evidence for all the persons you have mentioned and for Jesus when you can just say LOL. Clearly an outstanding example of how stupid people don't even understand when they are wrong
5:30 "Be perfect* (Mushlam, Meshulam or Mooshlam - aramaic/hebrew. Muslim in arabic. One of many meanings from the triliteral semitic root S-L-M) as your heavenly Father is perfect"
Jesus, if he existed, was a control freak. He allegedly threatened people with eternal punishment if they did not follow his directives. In those days people could be excused for being easily duped.
Patrick Parker Deluded people like you create a garbage hell here on earth by your stupid beliefs. That is more concerning. Even jesus did not know how did he have beard when he lacked any Y chromosome
Patrick Parker better than your stupid zombie worshipping beliefs This imaginary man killed many , destroyed many things and speaks of love lol How about loving gays and science ?
Patrick Parker Lol. Call it biblical science or pseudo science and not actual science The scientists of Renaissance happened to be christian , and were scientists not because of christianity , those days atheists were persecuted so they had to speak about christianity as being their faith There is no science in bible at all. Talking snakes is not science. Eternal damnation, zombie , flat earth, age of universe etc is totally anti science. Homosexuals are not to despised. They are not abnormal species.
i would say that Jesus if he existed then and now would have around 12 follows, i doubt any more than that would take any notice of his ramblings, nope no one would believe he was the son of god but if he was i hope he has made friends with his brother Lucifer, i do hate it when brothers fall out, have they the same mother i wonder, that would be weird,
am sitting here watching big questions the debate is building more prisons there is lots of abandoned prisons in the uk just check out you tube so why build more
I've had a supernatural experience. Jesus does exist and loves us but we need to stay on the right path. Life passes by quickly so we need to seek him. Those that seek will find.
It's funny that the woman brings up the story of Jesus and the adulteress who was about to be stoned. This passage is one of the passages that even conservative Christian scholars recognize as being a later addition. There are other verses that scholars debate as to whether they were added later, but that entire story is widely accepted as an addendum that was tacked on. Hell most English bibles even mention that in the footnotes. It's kind of sad that she doesn't even seem to know that.
I find it so hilarious when that lady keeps saying love comes from Jesus. Like, do you even history? No one loved anyone ever before Jesus came around? Even animals can love, let alone humans who don't follow Jesus.
This is not claimed to be a saying of jesus it is claimed to have been written by paul the apostle although even that is highly disputed. the quote in full. , obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ. So the quote is a load of nonsense, just like your comment really. There is no reference to jesus owning slaves, maybe he owned hundreds, maybe he raped the female ones, we dont know, so we cant guess unfotunatley we know a lot more about another prophet which is why this video is titled by the BBc as it is. And ol' Nicky thinks that jesus decribing himself as a sword means he carried one around with him - priceless
