Is kangaroo the worlds strongest leather? 

You'd think that, but the one thing you actually need from meat is in the fats. Kangaroo meat is great on occasion. it's absolutely full of iron, loaded with it. A pain in the arse to cook well, due to its toughness. Not as bad as gallah I guess.😆

@@adifferentangle7064 its a lot easier to put fat into a kangaroo meat dish than it is to take the methane out of cattle production!! ;-)

@@Rekeaki Why would I care about cow farts? You understand that kangaroos literally destroy their environments, right? Like, if they don't get culled regularly they turn the countryside into a barren wasteland. And then die of starvation.

Buy my pair of gidion off me please

@@adifferentangle7064 I've heard venison also difficult cooking. You'd be amazed the results from a pressure cooker.

there's a lot of hearsay and snake oil out there, it would be a great service

@@insederec I'm not sure if snake oil exists but we have goana oil, i never considered applying it to leather though. Seal oil was once available for leather . Because vegetable oils harden as they oxidize and polymerise , they ain't a good choice for leather except very short term use .

@@michaelcorbidge7914 it's a turn of phrase. A reference to bogus medical tonics from the Victorian era that were about as good as drinking vegetable oil or worse

@@insederec while being a turn of phrase, it once was sold with zero oil from snakes (since snakes have little to no fat content that would be easily made into oil anyway) by con men in the 1800s iirc, may be totally wrong on the century lol

More cooler is i never heard of kangaroo leather being an actual thing.

@@samuraiboi2735 I had a billfold once that was really thin kangaroo and it held up well for the most part, but didn't take the washing machine very well.

How about also comparing synthetics like goretex?

Kangaroos don’t like washing machines very much.

Or Crocodile and Alligator shoes/boots too? :-0

not only is the cost the problem but more of a problem is that kangaroo hides arent very big and to make a full jacket would probably require around 5 hides for 1 jacket.

Yes his test was flawed. Even though he "cleaned" his sandpaper, its still incredibly worn and dull from the first cowhide test. Sandpaper dulls just like a knife, so even if you clean the gunk off a dull knife, itll still be dull. He should have gotten a new sanding drum for each leather to make it accurate. As you said theres lots of scientific data available showing that kangaroo has a much higher abrasion resistance than cowhide, his testing was clearly flawed.

@HandandSew But if it was dull, wouldn’t that have made the kangaroo leather take longer to wear away? His test may have been flawed but I don’t think it could be in that way, since the kangaroo leather took less time to wear away.

Add a teflon coating and you can slide down the road at 300 kmh and not lose any skin! (Some companies making GP rider outfits have experimented with teflon coated roo hide).

@@rachel705 yeah, I'm also really curious about the reason why the kangaroo leather is less abrasion resistant in the test

Leather might be tough but it looks crap really

@@castorchua why

not my style, but still beautiful. I'm in Indonesia now and feel inspired to find a bootmaker!

Not sure if you can post links on youtube, but here's a video of one of the wallets I made. This one is a cow leather outer with Kangaroo pockets. I caught up with the guy who bought it the other day and it still looks like-new. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4ifCwl38zOM.html

I am in Australia and I get my boot maker here to make all my boots out of roo leather , soft supply and thin and cool ( great for our hot climate ) and strong as hell . A pair of boots are broken in after a day of wearing ( I wouldnt even call it breaking in as they start pretty good to begin with .)

@@soulfirez4270 True that. My kangaroo dress shoes were amazing.

@@soulfirez4270 how much does it cost to get some made mate? I've got extra short wide feet so getting anything close to fitting is hard off the shelf.

@@zyeborm Guess it depends on the boot maker , they will need to make a last of your foot so the first pair ( where they had to make the last or rough mold of foot 1200 bucks ) but each pair after that runs me around 700 Australian ( first pair still going strong 10 years later with a resoling .

Football/soccer cleats too

That's crazy. It's like saying the guy not wearing socks will be faster ! LoL

@@edwardfletcher7790 thinner, lighter, more flexible, less insulation (cooler). Every kg counts, and rider comfort has a huge effect on performance.

The acceleration is negligible, but the comfort is measurable.

@@aaronleverton4221 exactly its more a comfort thing that will produce better times over the long length of a race due to less rider fatigue.

To those in the comments, don't forget about the gloves, dexterity and fine hand control is a big part of riding success.

I have a pair of Morelia neo ii. While it doesn’t have a lot of kangaroo leather it is soft and really thin. Has held up really well.

Puma King also

The Adidas Copa Mundial cleats are kangaroo leather too.

Absolutely agree. But cellastic make boots look slimmer 😁

@Pukeutuminen As far as I know, yes. They are less likely to break apart with time (expecialy if you bent it by steping on the heel), they can vary the thickness according to the situation for a stiffer support and they can compress/mold to the heel better. They might also be more that I forgot

I have Australian made size 12 gidion sneakers kangaroo and cane toad hightops really rare if you want them

We just have to many kangaroos, so I'm not surprised that its not as expensive.

If you hunt around you can find 3rd grade hides for around AU$30. They have scrapes and tick bites on them but if you are making stuff like wallets you can cut around the defects.

@@pineapplesideways3820 lol love the hustle, turning youtube into gumtree

@@pineapplesideways3820 So cane toad does have some use?! Now that would be a very interesting leather to examine given the mega bucks various state govs are spending to eliminate them before they eliminate the local wildlife. Can you give some more details please? 😀

How did you see the video 10 hours before it released!?!?

@@RoseAnvil By the power of spook

@@RoseAnvil You got a mole!

@@RoseAnvil ha! That's nuts

Can you review Cabela's boots? Certain nsa agents want to know

The abrasion test was the least "scientific" imo, because he was just using the pressure of his hands to keep the swatch on the spinning cylinder. He might have been using more pressure on the kangaroo leather. This is just an observation; I know nothing about leather.

I raced (motorcycle) and went down 3 times in my kangaroo suit. Only had to have it repaired once on the last one where some stitching opened up a bit. Granted this was a few yrs after pretty consistant use. You sweat A LOT and eventually that sweat can start breaking down the suits integrity.

Good stuff, I will speak from experience you need to spend more time drying it out than cow hide. It tends to be more waterproof but soccer cleats, and a pair too large of golf shoes, are my only experience with this wonderful leather.

@Rose Anvil I don't sportsball personally, I I think this is a great idea. I can only imagine the marketing hype that goes into specialized athletic shoes. This could be an entirely new audience for you.

I would love to see Mizuno Morelia Neo III Made in Japan models get sliced in half.

Also in rugby league/union boots. In the old days of handmade cricket boots they used kangaroo also.

I have a couple. Some are still made that way, and they're just the best.

Adidas samba

@@richardhudson9291 I'd love to see some Sambas cut in half. No Adidas shoes use K-leather anymore, however. I think they stopped around 2012.

@@samthelima I thought that Copa Mundial was still using kangaroo leather? Is that not the case?

@@kel01 I thought I read that they had stopped, but apparently that's not the case.

Water resistance and hygroscopic aren't necessarily mutually exclusive properties.

Interesting that the footwear of the ten thousand year old glacier preserved iceman utilised three different leathers in the construction chosen for their most appropriate characteristics. They knew about leather ten thousand years ago.

Ostrich, kangaroo, gater, horse, cow, etc leather test would be so interesting

@@michaelcorbidge7914 This is exactly how evolution works, but by making things for survival. I'm certain that the same principle would apply to cooking, preservation, fire making and other pressures linked to surviving.

Giancarlo - Good point regarding tension as it applies to the abrasion test (especially when applied to football boots). From my anecdotal experience as a former pro footballer, calfskin tends to last longer than kangaroo. But, that's only across mass produced, machine made football boots (Adidas, Nike, etc...). Across high end, hand made football boots (Pantofola d'Oro, Diadora, etc...), kangaroo lasts just as long as calfskin. P.S. - Interesting surname (mine is similar) Does it originate from any particular region of Italy?

I was just about to writ that !

I love his channel

That dude is so pompous. I couldn’t watch him anymore

@@brandonlabrie162 hmmm 🤔. Wouldn't never have characterized him that way. He has a NY/Philly type tough guy bent to him but always seemed fairly humble to me. Trust me you spend a lifetime sticking your hands into someone else's old stinky shoes, you aren't pompous.

@@brandonlabrie162 I always found him to be quite humble. He has a lot of respect for both his client and the medium he works in. It's a hard balance to strike I can tell you from experience

He is good 👍

I am an Aussie who wears cowboy boots made locally out of kangaroo leather , I walk in red clay all the time , wet or dry ,doing all sorts of bending twisting and the like . I have a pair of boots that has lasted 14 years and held its shape perfectly ( colour not so much the red clay stains everything ) . Highly recommend roo leather as it is light ,soft and supple but extremely strong ( and roos breed like rabbits and as such I am always culling there numbers , I personally think we should utilize there leather and meat far more even if it is a touch lean and hard to cook ( quick cooking works best )

​@@soulfirez4270Hi,what do you use for maintenance?

@@dickn.ormous1064 I Use 60% Lard 10% cod liver oil and 30% bees wax all melted together into a boot cream( often refered to as Dubbin) . Easy to make and works great to keep them boots looking good water proofing them and conditioning them .

Bison would be interesting! Elephant hide is a thing though? YIKES

I’m 21 years old & i review weed products on my RU-vid channel as my job lmao. Tryna make it out the hood, these rappers be tryna go back 👀

it's banned in CA? what the eff else is my stupid state going to ban? crap.

The best flex is kangaroo, premium soccer boots to moto gp suits are kangaroo leather so that speaks for itself

@@pineapplesideways3820 I did not know that. It would be cool to see though. To visualise it.

Yeah, elephant leather is not a viable material for any kind of scale production - not enough zoos around the world to support a mass-made shoe. Bison ought to be a very durable leather, though.

@@ElijsDima Correct, it is not a viable leather anymore. But it is now buried and left to rot which I don't agree with either. But it is due to the very perception of it's use being a death sentence and having so much political backlash everyone refuses to use it now. That is what I disagree with. Bison is solid and sustainably sourced. Seidel often does small batches of it. It is supple and from what I understand 30% stronger than cowhide pound for pound. Nick's did a small run of peanut bison and considers it a work leather. I don't actually own any boots not made out of cowhide. I just hate to see things not utilized. Then again I grew up being raised by depression era grandparents and parents influenced by that. My youngest grandparent was born the day the stock market crashed. So I suppose it is more a personal distaste for something not being utilized and letting emotions get the best of you. I can understand the cause behind it, be sympathetic, but it doesn't mean I agree with it. For instance despite having more horses than ever before Americans even when the horse passes away bury the horse vs selling the hide to a tannery. It has caused Horween to be unable to produce what was once an American staple and instead have to import Horsehides from Europe in order to cope with the demand. Long story short due to emotional rather than truly conservative reasons we as Americans pound for pound are the most wasteful nation as a rule on the planet. But we like to comfort ourselves with the fact we do a little here or there. It is why I am not fond of environmental efforts that make people feel better about things but have little to no impact in actuality. I'm just as guilty as the next person, I just can sort of emotionally detach myself from the illusion of what something does actually do something. I always prefer to research the facts of something rather than blindly accept what I am told. It's sort of like modern education not teaching people to discern fact or fiction on social media. There is no cause for it despite probably being the single most important thing to teach in a modern day era. People no longer know how to research, how to figure out what is real and unreal. So instead a lot of assumptions get made and people choose to believe what makes them feel good. I get that, to choose otherwise could be far more depressing. It is harder to accept a hard truth versus a sugar coated lie. It always has been and always well be. Perception is reality is probably the thing I hated most, and yet my greatest and most long lasting lesson I had to learn when joining the workforce. It doesn't matter how hard you work except to yourself. It only matters to give the illusion to others how hard you work, or whether you give the impression of being a hard worker and a good person, and what they can see. Doing real work helps you because you did the right thing, as does doing the moral and upright thing. But under no circumstance should you assume that your boss sees it that way. Discerning what they actually want to see, hear, etc, is the difference between being promoted if you want. It's knowing when to bend and not to bend, and what they want to see. I suppose the fact that I know how phony it all is gets to me at the end of the day, and simply lets me know how superficial we as a society are. If you want to put yourself first, compartmentalize it all, and can look yourself straight in the eye it is the road to success. Your social awareness is bar none the most helpful thing that can cause you to succeed or fail in life. You just have to decide as a person if that is worth sacrificing for. I personally can't do it, because I wouldn't be myself anymore. I learned for me my conscious is more important to me than monetary gain. It is why I learned to live within my means, and achieve success in life in others means. I know the road to financial success but am unwilling to do what is required for it. The cost to how I see myself, looking myself in the eyes, and self worth is too much. I get it is just psychological and at the end of the day the paycheck is more worthwhile when I live my life, but that is my own personal weakness of emotion overriding logic. So in a way I understand the comfort of living with the perception of yourself. The only way I could change that would be to change me. Hence the price we pay, is it worth it? I think electric cars, banning imports of goods, certain laws, are just there for that. Emotions, logic requires a certain level of detachment. And I think we all as human beings can only detach so much. It is why I am both curious and frightened of what a true artificial intelligence would be like. I imagine self preservation being at the top of the list but measuring out pros and cons without emotions overriding decision making or quote unquote fairness would be very enlightening. Meanwhile all this is said from a small griping of the leather industry. My apologies for heavily derailing the conversation and letting my emotions getting the better of me. Thanks to whomever reads this.

Vultain, you speak truth so I don't consider that a rant when it' makes sense. Please have a lovely and safe week with warmest regards, Celita C

@@ElijsDima maybe not scale production, but I’d personally pay $500-1500 for a pair of high quality boots made from these more exotic leathers then these sneaker heads paying $500-5000 for a pair of cheaply made Nike’s, it may not be good enough for “production” but a few unique orders for custom boot makers 🤷‍♂️

Wow I didn't know they even made hytest still. I find vintage ones fairly often.

Thanks man, I love your videos

How is it ethical to kill Kangaroo's for leather? It's the First time I'm hearing of kangaroo leather 🤔

@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess As an Aussie, most leather and meat from roos and wallabies are from culling. They often breed out of control in areas so the animals will unfortunately get killed anyway; might as well not let it go to waste. Though if the leather comes from other countries their obvs raising kangaroo just for slaughter which sucks

@@gtuyhjkml Oh I see, how interesting! Just learned today about kangaroo leather lol I need to visit Australia one day, it's one of the most unique and amazing lands in the world in my opinion

The only thing that hold Indonesian down is their corruptor.

The test samples appeared to be very similar if not identical in thickness.