I think she’s being encouraged to be sassy as part of her brand. It is obnoxious but it’s probably not her own thoughts. It’s disrespectful of Kim to ask her 10 year old to critique a dress in front of the designer. I would have taken that dress and left her naked. We don’t hear the same feedback on Angelina Jolie children so I don’t think it’s the celebrity thing. It’s a Kardashian thing.
Oh it’s definitely her own thoughts. She’s smart as a whip and she is used to unabashedly stating her opinion. Kim clearly feels really hurt by the comments but must also know she’s right or something.. and she seems to respect her opinion. But you can see the hurt in Kim’s eyes when north critiques her.
This. She's been raised to be a reality TV personality/star, because that's what's been modeled for her. Kim should be raising her kid to be a functional, well-rounded adult, but since Kim doesn't seem to know what that is, poor North is doomed.
Leyla Mohammed wrote an article for Buzzfeed called "Here's How The Kardashian/Jenners Have Protected Their Sons From Fame While Publicizing And Monetizing Their Daughters." Ever since I read that article, it's really been hard for me to watch the Kardashian-Jenner daughters be in front of the camera. I just don't think that's healthy. I implore everyone to read the article. It's depressing but really one of the best critiques about the family.
I don't really follow the Kardashians, but for me to say that I had no idea they even *had* any sons shows how well they have succeeded in protecting them. Disgusting.
Wow very intrigued to reqd this article that highlights how problematic their treatment of their children are based on their genders. These kids were also all produced out of a two-way racial fetishism of their parentsand and extended fetishism of bi-racial children in general. It's so upsetting to see the Kardashian/Jenner women and them men that mated with them profit off of children who did not ask to be here or scrutinized to that degree.
@@M0rbidCuriositeaI genuinely forget a lot they have sons. Woah. It really does how to show how they protect their sons. wonder how they feel about this.
I would be mortified as an adult if things I did/said when I was 10 years old were recorded and broadcast for anyone to see. If Kim had any sense, she would keep her kids out of the spotlight completely.
Also, children are a reflection of their environment until they grow up and learn how to think for themselves. North is speaking the things that the Kardashians taught her behind closed doors. SHE isn't a mean person, but every adult around her is.
The dress thing is all Kim's fault. Let's not lose focus on the fact that North was asked her opinion in front of the designer. She even gave her mom a slight warning but offering to just stay silent because she didn't have anything nice to say. But Kim pressed her for her for content. North is completely correct and how she handles the paparazzi. The clip where she had to leave her school function, you can just hear the frustration and hopelessness in her voice. It's heartbreaking.
And part of the issue is that North is too young to really understand that she can’t have the fun things she wants (trips, clothes, etc) without the paparazzi. She’s definitely been very vocal about wanting to do things like fashion week, but she’s what, 9? 10? She just doesn’t quite have the cognitive skills yet to realize she can’t have fashion week without paparazzi.
I wish there was a law against posting children online. Especially for money. There are already children of family vloggers, and reality TV coming out about how much they resent their parents. Children have no clue about who is viewing them, and they can not give informed consent. That's my take on it. :-)
@@Users_rx you clicked on a video that clearly shows a child in the thumbanail so you're part of the problem too, but you blame "capitalism" instead. Maybe practice what you preach?
Agreed! And parents not having access to child star's money or accounts and placing it into a trust. So many parents exploit their children it's disgusting.
My mom knew immediately when I didn’t like her haircut or her outfit. It was because I said nothing. So when North said “I’m not going to lie, I just won’t say anything.” I felt that. Having said that, Kim is the problem allowing her child to be involved at all. It was terribly disrespectful to that designer.
Exactly, she kind of prodded the kid to say the mean things. She just said, It's nice buuut... And Kim was like, elaborate. She did. And she wasn't really wrong. I actually like how she knows that even if it's worth thousands it can look cheap. That's something I feel her mother needs to learn.
Well even if my mother was horrible in a haircut I would always feel her appreciated or say a nice word …it doesn’t cost nothing to be nicr and these children today are super nasty and spoiled
@@amorepsyche808 I don't think her intention was to be mean but to be honest. Honesty aint always nice hun. Her mother egged it on in front of the designer which her mother as a grown adult should be more aware not to do that. She knows her child.
@@CraziiPolaroid well I have been around children very much and sometimes they like to be mean and nasty, if theyare unchecked. In this cases honesty should be educated to be respectful, you can say” I don’t really think in its my taste but I love mum how you shine in it” this is how children should talk to their mothers.. it’s not the end of the world if she says a small lie to make her mom and the designer happy! Of course Kim made a mistake but North as a child it’s very spoiled and rude. Not one single once of loving/compassionate energy from that child
I am so sick and tired of these children being dragged for how they’re being raised. It’s not their fault. This is entirely Kim’s fault right now because she’s the custodial parent. She treats them like accessories…a “brand”… When they’re with Ye you see them acting this way, they’re not lashing out, they’re protected from paparazzi and rarely seen in public. And don’t speak to paparazzi. With Kim - it’s full on showmanship
From what the clip shows she treats her daughter like an equal and a friend - from my perspective. Other clips I have seen Kim is always saying how amazing North is and how talented she is - so I wonder if she has ever been given a dose of reality and not constantly be put on a pedestal.
She’s just like Eric Cartman’s mother. Always caters to her kid and never calls him out and she treats him like an equal aged friend and well I’m not saying North will be a genocidal manic like Cartman, but she won’t be the nicest or best person when she’s older if her parents don’t raise her right and stop throwing her at nannies
The paparazzi attitude is awful. It’s also entirely Kim’s fault. She’s used them as an accessory for years. Nobody knew what Michael Jackson’s kids actually looked like until after he died. Love him, or hate him, he protected them from that. Kim frequently has them on her socials. In terms of North being a brat, she’s mirroring her mum’s behaviour. It’s disgusting.
Robert...you're so right. I'm a mom, and a 5th grade teacher (10 yo) and lover of kids. And let me say this loud and clear...ALL 👏 KIDS 👏 ARE 👏 ANNOYING👏! Even the kids I love are annoying. North in the spotlight, mouthing off when cameras are on her is not surprising. Her whole life is entertainment-oriented, and this is her reality. Her family raised her to be a "brand" and an accessory and this is the persona she has now. The whole thing is sad, but grown internet adults getting fussed that North is running her mouth is sadder.
I’m a mom. I do not like other peoples kids so I’ll happily say, yes all kids are annoying. This is an extreme case though. I understand that her surroundings are completely different, but it seems like she’s not allowing her have any sort of childhood. Part of childhood is having respect, and understanding boundaries (which have to be implemented first obviously lol). I find it sad that she’s missing out on so much in terms of childhood. You get to be an adult your whole life, but being a kid is such a small fraction of time. It’s sad.
This is so well said! Kim is raising her likes she’s her “bestie” instead of raising her as a child. North is naturally incredibly intelligent, quick-witted, and talented (her drawings are impressive). It’s so easy to treat a kid who happens to have a quick mind like they’re older than they are BUT they’re so far from emotional maturity and they still need to have respect and boundaries to feel safe and develop into a healthy, whole-rounded adult.
I really just feel bad for North. She cannot be a normal child or ever have a normal childhood. She’s been robbed and I wouldn’t be surprised at all if she’s extremely resentful toward her parents, because it’s their fault. Kids deserve better.
To me she def seems resentful I think that’s why she’s so snarky with her mother. She takes small digs whenever she can, that’s usually a sign of resentment.
If you go back to the first season of keeping up with the Kardashians, they were awful to their parents. They are literally raising themselves. Disrespectful and entitled.
Quite honestly, I feel insanely bad for North. You can tell she's not being given appropriate social boundaries by her parents, she's being used by Kim as a punchline on her TV show, she wants so badly for her mom to take her seriously - and all of this is happening in front of a world that is going to judge this as who she truly is, rather than a reaction to her environment. (And yes, as she gets older, the responsibility to better herself will fall on her shoulders, but right now, she's just a kid muddling through what is probably a pretty lonely life.)
I also feel like her attitude potentially could be a front to protect herself. I think about Paris Hilton and how she put on a front to “give the public what they want” but also to protect her inner self because she was so exploited and hurt over the years. Makes me wonder if North is headed down a similar road.
I felt bad for her the day she was conceived!! So far….it looks like she is not handling the fame it too well. Either her mother needs to keep her out of the limelight for the next few years, or sit her down and tell her to “SUCK IT UP”!! That’s Hollywood….BABY!!
As a mother of four, kids are annoying, they are, but they're learning how to deal with life. You have to teach them boundaries, tact, manners etc. North makes me sad because of how she's constantly in the public eye. No kid deserves that.
@MyOwnShedOfLight so what does this have to do with my comment? All I said was you have to teach kids manners. She tore that designer to shreds, there are ways to critique tactfully and still get the point across. At no point did I mention that comment of hers specifically.
@katara311 LOL what a pathetic response. Grow up. LOL the topic was about her being disrespectful to the designer, about the dress right?? Like did I REALLY have to explain that to you?? Or are you just commenting on things you don't really pay attention to??
@MyOwnShedOfLight honey, are you ok? I'm not sure why my opinions or thoughts upset you so badly. All I stated was that I felt bad that she's constantly exposed to the world and needs guidance like every child. Kids learn boundaries, manners and tact from their parents. There were multiple times throughout the video where she was disrespectful it wasn't just about the dress. You didn't pay very much attention. Not once did I blame her or put her down. She's a child, I wouldn't do that. You need to stop acting like a child. You decided to come at me for something I didn't even comment on initially. Kids are annoying, usually very blunt and curt, it's up to the adults around them to help them learn kinder ways of getting their point across. Obviously, your parents failed in that regard. Have a lovely night, I hope you have a better day tomorrow.
Her father?? Are you serious. her father just brought her out rapping for his album premiere or whatever... If you think kanye doesn't have a hand in this too your highly decieved... they're sacrificing they're children to the industry.. its part of their occult beliefs obviously... they're fine with it
North is just like Kim who used to criticize her sisters’ makeup and clothing incessantly. I can see the K dash women going around saying.. “Ewe, that house is ugly, that pool is too small, that kitchen needs a makeover!!” Sad.
Here's my thing. I'm a parent of 3. I would not ask my child for their opinions in front of the designer. I would not have put the designer through that. That's on Kim. But I also have an issue with parenting on screen. I don't like mommy bloggers or family RU-vidrs. Let kids grow up without an audience. But when it comes to the paparazzi. Absolutely, leave that kid alone. If course she's going to be rude to people taking pictures of her
@@seeleygirl6178 kids will say things to you and you have no control over their mouths. They are their own people. And North has a dad, too. Don't forget. She could be picking up on the way her dad talks. Honestly, with the comments to her mom, I can definitely see a choose your battles moment. But that's why I don't like kids growing up in the public eye. She's 10. We shouldn't be seeing how she talks to her mom.
I’m a mom of three. It’s pretty simple. If you have nothing nice to say, don’t say anything. You can teach your kids to be assertive, that doesn’t mean they should be nasty. This poor girl has been raised to be a mean girl. They probably praise her every time she does it. Maybe it was cute when she was a toddler. Well, not anymore.
Yeah, part of me feels that it's a "funny little kid" thing that just didn't get explained/corrected at the right time until it was already a habit. Being born into this kind of spotlight certainly doesn't help a child or the parent.
It is so sad to see this designer having to listen to this shit. This is a huge opportunity for him and he's being shit on by a child. North isn't choosing her words more respectfully because she doesn't understand how or why she should. Kim just expects her to act the complete opposite of how she was raised to behave. Why would you ask a kid's opinion on a designer dress in the first place?! What is there to be gained from that? The child thinks pearls worth more than some people will earn in a lifetime look like they came from the Dollar Tree. At that point you should be like, oh yeah, this is a child and it's time to excuse her out of respect for the man whose soul she's crushing for no reason 💀
@ffmadari You’re exactly right. North is gonna learn when she’s older that this behavior isn’t going to keep anyone around her. It was precocious when she was littler but she’ll learn very soon it is absolutely off putting as she gets older
Robert thank you for being respectful of kids even as a childfree person who does not like them. I come across so many aggressive obnoxious childfree people and your take is very refreshing.
As a mom my friends would ask me why my daughter is so well behaved; because I didn’t want to live with an a-hole lol. She is going to be 18 in feb and every few years ppl were like wait till she’s 7, wait till she’s 13, wait till she’s 16…. We are and continued to be close and know how to communicate. Honestly, the way kids are brought up, if they have any metal health issues, development issues- it can vary widely. I think the baseline most parents should be able to maintain are manners and kindness. North’s behavior is a direct result of her parenting, her privilege, and most likely two very different but still fame focused parents.
I always tell my daughters if they are being a**holes....I tell them to watch their manners because I did not raise @**hole daughters. Sometimes kids forget manners and they must be reminded to be kind and nice to people no matter what, without being pushovers.
Im a mother of 2 and preschool teacher. This is a very tough place. She is 10 and she seemingly hates the lime light. Her parents however are treating her like shes 18 and document every sneeze throughout her day. North is disrespectful but she learned this from her environment. She sees how her mom, dad, and aunts all act and she is mimicking that. Hopefully she will learn a bit more tact when she grows up and hopefully her family allows her the space for own personal development. I understand why people judge her and don’t remember that she’s a child because she’s shoved down our faces from everyone around her that seems to forget she’s a literal child.
Exactly! They raise her, and now it is showing how they raised her till this point. Kids copy the things they see from their parents, and as they grow oldet they know which behaviour gets them the most attention. Negative attention is also attention 🤷♀️ There are a lot of famous people who had Kids, but I doubt they all turned out like North at that age
Only Kim. Kanye even told Kim to not put North out there on media. Kim didn’t give a shit and even ignored what Kanye said. So it’s parent, not parents.
As a child of a Narcissist my guess is that "mother" only interacts with her child in front of other people (aka for the cameras) This child probably asks herself every day, why did you have children if you never want to spend time with them. And the nice/nasty shade is perfect Karma for the way she's treated her own sisters over the years. Go North!!
I really hope North can get the emotional support she needs in the future. I hope she gets an amazing therapist to help her work through how traumatic growing up in the spotlight can be. Not to mention having to deal with the fact her dad’s erratic behaviors are on public display as well. As a parent this is 100% Kim’s fault. Kim and the other caregivers (I’m presuming they have nannies) were not focused on raising a human being. Children are humans who need guidance and it’s really frustrating seeing someone with infinite resources not utilizing them.
I'm a parent and I've worked in education. Children need boundaries, it is up to you as a parent to guide them and show them how to treat others. I find North's behaviour disrespectful, and it's down to Kim to pull her into line to discuss excitable behaviour. I know you understand how to bring up your dogs so they don't run wild...bite people..follow simple instruction..kids are the same. Politeness costs nothing. xxx
Ok and? Is this not still teaching North to be a certain way? Absolutely. It's teaching her that being rude gets you attention and ppl who praise North and think she's funny for it online are only encouraging that behavior in real life. It's not cute or funny for a child to be rude and disrespectful to their parent constantly but ppl think it's funny when she does it. Her mother is allowing her to be exposed to this behavior which used by the producers to garner views. @@malloryknox6802
And it's really not difficult because by nature children want to impress adults. As long as you aren't a crap person, your children won't be crap people. As long as I can remember I ALWAYS got compliments on how well my kids behave in public. And that's not necessarily me teaching them as much as it was just natural for them. At home they were amazing 90% of the time but in public and to other people, they were respectful, polite, caring and kind 100% of the time. So that says SO much about the adults around North.
Thank you. It's not rocket science that we're dealing with here. If I was able to teach my disabled son how to be a gentleman Kim can teach her daughter how to be a decent human being. But that's the K's for you... 🙄
As a parent yes she can show more respect. However children mirror what they see. They are a product of their surroundings. So if she doesn't see a lot of respect around her or her parents don't respect her than that will reflect in her behavior. We also need to keep in mind that what we see if what they want to show. We don't know the entire story. Everything with a grain of salt.
8:31 "This is a child playing celebrity"- exactly this. It definitely seems like she isn't being appropriately protected from the negative aspects of being a child of celebrities and isn't allowed to just be a child. Her behavior is her best effort to cope with and live in the environment she has no control over
For me, what North gives off is a child who is not given boundaries of a child. For example, North not only sits in on too many grown-up conversations but instead of being outside playing, she's being treated as someone who demands attention at this point because she's grown accustomed to hanging out with the adults. Also, since Kim doesn't like to take crap from anyone, I do believe Kim is grooming North to be her mini (in attitude and outlook), and North is a good mouthpiece. North can say what Kim wants to but can't. However, the double-edged sword is North will also dish it to Kim, something Kim probably didn't think about. Kim might have assumed North would be like a doll she could wind up, turn off as and on, speak on cue, adore and worship Kkm, then sit looking pretty - just like Mom. Yet, Kanye is not like that; therefore, North has also inherited her father's traits. Bottom line, your analysis is perfect! I love your perspective and rhetorical questions. Overall, it is difficult being a child, in addition to all the factors you mentioned, and overall, the “why” is because I believe North is also in training to become a strong businesswoman. It's apparent when she's commentating on the MET Red Carpet but switches into a baby voice. The look in Kim’s eye is that of a strict teacher giving a lesson. It's creepy and sad, but ultimately, Kim is the one creating the environment, so she is accountable for influencing it.
The conversation about the dress is something I would have NOT done in front of the designer. Children are opinionated little a$$-holes. I can say that because I have a son & he was a little a$$-hole. However, my son was also taught not to be disrespectful and/or rude, he was taught manners. Love you Robert!!! 💜
I think this was a case where North didn't like the dress, and at first tried to keep her criticism short. However, the adults kept pushing the issue, making her mad, and so she let them have it. I think she is a product of her environment, so the answers weren't going to get nicer. If you pushed me, I would admit I felt the same about the dress LOL
There is a part of me that feels bad for children of celebrities. Yes they have more financial stability that most of us can ever imagine, but the psychological damage of being followed and watched by millions with no control over it is unimaginable too. Also this kid is 9 or 10 and has to be picking up these behaviors from the adults around her and I think it's pretty clear where and how. I have a hard time judging or putting blame on any child in any situation because they are so little and their brains are not fully developed with empathy and problem solving skills. Their parents and guardians are meant to help guide them in these subjects and it appears many celebrity/influencer's children are not getting that guidance. Edit to add that I do think we should just leave these kids alone. They are children and never deserve to be bullied by random adults online. That's part of the psychological damage that is entirely unnecessary for any kid.
@@valzahnzahnI hope she can avoid that. Social media is AWFUL though and it hasn’t been kind to her family. Her mother did her a huge disservice raising her to be a typical Hollywood brat instead of, idk I think of Selena Gomez when I think of a well-brought up, famous young lady who holds herself well. Can’t get blood from a turnip I guess.
I’m a mother of 3. I had my first, a boy when I was 18. He was and still is my best friend. Never caused me one ounce or trouble or stress. He’s everything I could ever ask for and more. His father passed away and I remarried years later and had his sisters when I was in my late 20s and early 30s. Girls…. I don’t know what it is but they are WHOLE different breed. My daughters are sweet and kind… but they also don’t take any crap. I don’t discourage that because I want them to be able to handle themselves in life and not feel like they need to put politeness before personal safety. But it took a while for my youngest who is 4, to really distinguish between being rude and putting up personal boundaries. They’re all vastly different children, and all come with their own amazing abilities and their challenges. But girls I have found MUCH harder to raise. I also know that mothers and daughters will always have their stand offs. But from what I see, I think it’s a mix of her environment which is wildly different than what most of us have ever experienced and also of who her parents and family are and what her parents have ENCOURAGED and ALLOWED. If they truly didn’t like or tolerate this behavior they wouldn’t record and put it out there for the entire world to see. I wouldn’t EVER want that image for my daughters. I wouldn’t want their worst behavior in teachable learning moments to be recorded and used to build their image and used against them. I would shut that shit down immediately. Cameras stopped and that behavior NEVRR rewarded. Not only is it encouraged but it’s recorded, posted and rewarded. I genuinely see this as nearly as bad as physical abuse and neglect. I think it’s another form of a horrifically toxic and detrimental environment for a child of any age. It’s abhorrent.
Digital strategist and parent here: the entire thing feels to me like a structured plan with two goals: building up North's public image on the one hand, and pivoting the narrative of Kim as entering the next stage in her life on the other. The interview with the "she's here to teach me patience" is very telling in this regard. Nobody forces any of these people to say or do the things that we see them say and do. Despite what they would want the public to think, this is NOT reality TV. It is branding. We can discuss the ethical conundrum of pulling a child into this, but at the end of the day, we don't really know how North West *actually* is, do we? All we see is what this carefully crafted and edited operation shows us. Whenever we see UGC of her, she is described as "scared", or puts up signs asking paparazzi to stop taking pictures of her. Something does not add up here, and the sad thing is that whatever path she chooses (which is going to happen in the next few years), it still benefits the brand. The family has all the resources in the world to keep this child's image private. The fact that they decided to make it public is a business choice. Nothing more, nothing less.
Her behaviour is age appropriate for a ten year old. My middle son was like this too, said rude or mean things to get a reaction from me. I consistently told him what he said is unacceptable and hurtful. He was only rude us, not to people outside our household. It was a phase, he was testing the boundaries. Fortunately for my son, I did not broadcast his private behaviour to the world and let him be judged by everyone.
I have 2 boys I though is adhd/autistic so it’s hard with him to know boundaries but I do my best to explain but it’s hard when he jumps from what we are talking about to another subject he also doesn’t like going out unless it’s something that interests him or else he’s impatient throwing a fit people probably think what a brat what an asshole kid many of these people talking about there perfect prestine kids have no clue then my middle child tests my boundaries and I have to be consistently correcting his behavior as well But at school they say they are Angels and I’m like are u sure we talking about the same kids 😅
I think she's playing up to the cameras. She probably knows that Kim won't really properly correct her in front of people or cameras. My kids would do this if they had an audience without a doubt. It's normal just on a topic that most kids wouldn't be talking about
My youngest was also lacking a filter when he was about that age. I hope Kim is actually teaching North lessons in tact. Having said that, I think it's great that North us comfortable speaking her mind. If she can temper that assertiveness with some respect, she is more likely to have a successful life in the world she lives in.
Not only you know as a parent that other people's kids can be annoying, you know how annoying your own kid can be. Picking apart and insulting a 10 year old on the internet is disgusting. And if she wasn't encouraged to be bold and speak her mind by her mom and most likely by the production team, none of that stuff would have aired. People blame a child for the decisions of the parents and that's deeply unfair.
I appreciate your compassionate approach. I watched this with my "mom hat" on and was thinking her mom was failing her, but let's be real, I'm raising my kid in private, and my experience simply doesn't apply here. I can't imagine growing up in this much of a spotlight. I can't imagine parenting a kid through that, either.
Kim is failing her. She's not forced to put her daughter on camera and document her every move for millions to criticize, but she has since birth. North deserves the chance to grow up privately and make the mistakes that all kids do without being attacked online. Kim robbed her of that chance and effectively uses her as an accessory
It’s so sad to know that child stars have spoken up about how all of this affected them long term mentally , meanwhile her parents are pushing her on the forefront constantly. Everyone makes mistakes but this little girl won’t be able to do anything with creepers constantly monitoring her moves . Which has been making her uncomfortable and instead of stopping the constant exposure her mum Keeps it coming and seems to find it amusing because it keeps them relevant .There’s a reason Mason doesn’t appear on the show anymore because he asked his mother not too and she respected that .😞
As a Mum of a 9 year old I think North's behaviour is somewhat normal for her environment. 10 year old's these days are already trying to be teenagers, learning boundaries, individuality and so much more. They also have to do all of the above on social media, even non-famous children are plastered over their families SM. If North needs to learn more boundaries and how to be polite then her parents should step up, but as a child she should not be critiqued by others in this way.
i think north can be abrasive but as someone who works with children, it’s good to see them express themselves in an unfiltered way. i feel like in north’s case, they praise her responses and kind of set up situations to give her that image for entertainment value. we’ve also seen clips of her being super sweet with her younger siblings and honestly just going through life as a tween girl. she’s growing and being conditioned as women we tend to soften our approaches and feelings under the impression of being appropriate. sure there’s improvement for consideration but again, look at her family.
My niece was like this at that age(15 now) and she was just BRUTALLY honest. I don't think it's necessarily just North, but just how their generation is(not excusing it). North is clearly interested in fashion, and it's great her mom is trying to involve her, but there are boundaries that should exist, and it seems like they failed to teach those to her, as well as the respect aspect. But you cannot blame her for how she's been taught and raised, that's on Kim and Kanye. People being mean to a 10 year old is just sad. I genuinely feel for her. She didn't ask to be born into that lifestyle, to have to constantly be "on" and perform a character (don't believe that's how she is 24/7 at all- look at Paris Hilton for example, she fakes the ditz thing for SOOOOO long people believed it). It definitely has to be exhausting and mentally draining to have all eyes on you, and you really can't just be a kid. I feel for her.
I think you're spot on, kids are annoying and 10 is SO YOUNG! Personally I remember having a phase around 11-13 (so even older than she is!) where people thought it was sooo funny and entertaining when I was being rude or snarky so you can guess what I was like... Children are still growing up and need to be able to make the mistakes we ALL make without it being written into the history books. Side note - Poor kid is 10 years old being used for entertainment on a reality show, obviously her family and the producers thought airing those particular clips of her as opposed to others they filmed bc it will make them money!
I am a mother of two and can confirm kids are annoying. I find it disrespectful what North is doing, however she is being raised in a different environment than most. I blame the parents, not the kids. Back off North, she doesn't really know any better.
I also think these kids are going through a lot, divorce is harder, when it plays out so publicly it’s even hard. This girl’s father is unmedicated bipolar, considering what Kanye has done publicly, it’s not unlikely the kids were also exposed to manic episodes. Sometimes acting out is a cry for help.
Actually, in those videos, North was specifically asked by Kim to critique her outfit. And she did what most 10 year olds do: she says whatever runs through her head. Kim provoked a lot of those situations and basically manipulates North into that behavior.
@@Mondscheinstaub Kim provokes it. 100 percent I swear that child is doing incredible considering the environment. Adults talking about what a brat she is , just by trashing a child the adults are the brats .
I find the ADULT that posted how annoying North, who is just a little girl and a product of her environment, and how she can’t lip sync and whatever other mean things she said much more distasteful than anything North actually said or did. That adult was a straight up bully. She is a child. She needs to be guided and taught. ALL children do. She’s been in the public eye since she was born. I cannot imagine. I kept thinking “ she could be a whole lot worse given what she’s been through”. I’m really enjoying this channel as well 🖤 love you and love your content 💜
Which adult specifically? There are so many of us saying the same thing. Just because it’s the fault of the adults in North’s life who encourage trash behavior, it doesn’t make North less annoying. She doesn’t get a free pass just because this has been done to her. Her personality it wretched and other people get to have an opinion about it. Sorry, but you’ve only partially correct: North is ALSO a bully. Did you not see her ridicule a grown man who, in her eyes, is probably the hired help? The worst thing is that other kids will see her and try to emulate her behavior. It’s horrible. North, like her family, has no class. Money can’t buy class, kindness, dignity, or respect for self and others.
@@jori7398 Robert put on the screen a tiktok (or some social media post) that an adult posted about North. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about her, but to post something like that about a 10 year old little girl when you’re a grown ass adult is nothing short of bullying. Would that adult walk up to her (or any kid) and say that to her face?? I’m sure she wouldn’t. ANY kid can be annoying at times. ALL kids need to be taught tact and grace and class and manners. We know that kids emulate the behavior they see modeled by their parents and those closest to them. I’m not saying that North doesn’t need more guidance and educating and teaching as she grows up. She certainly does. I’m just saying it’s disgusting that an adult made a whole post tearing her down. THAT, to me, was worse than anything North actually said or did. That was my whole point. Sorry if you missed it 🤷♀️
@@aleigha9141 I didn’t miss your point. I think it’s great Robert shared this video. As a civilized society, child rearing and behavior is an important conversation to have.
You can’t blame a child when the mom keeps asking her the same question. How does a child have to have diplomacy when her grown ass mom is the one putting her in that situation. 😔 love your uploads 👍🥰
Did they not actually ask North's opinion on the dress?? Did they expect her to lie? If you don't want a child's opinion, don't ask? It's that simple really! She's just giving her honest opinion.
I hate when people ask your opinion and then get hurt if you didn't like something, don't ask or or get stronger emotionally. Deeply frustrating. She even said, "if you want me to say I like it, I'll say I like it". They wanted her to say what she didn't like, in a vague way, they're just teaching her to double speak.
I agree to a point you can absolutely say you don't like it and give your opinion in a kind manner. You do not have to tear it down to give your opinion. With that said however this is Kim's doing as we saw even after correcting her once on saying it nicely she still turned around and was not nice and Kim should have made it serious then instead of laughing it off.
The scene where Kim says 'I love you' and north says she needs a pimple Patch... I think people need to keep in mind kim was probably only acting that way because she's on camera. North is just a kid and is behaving how her mum allows her to, the fact Kim 'complimented' her while on camera doesn't mean anything
It's a nightmare to live with those who are supposed to care for and protect you and you understand loving things they do towards you are just for show and actually mainly about them. Then you look like the brat because they were nice. I so understand that type of resentment, and it's heartbreaking.
U Uggh fack Kim. she brought her own child there purposely to say those things and act like she is techie g her kid to be polite . Like she shouldn't have even had her daughter there with the designer in the first place.
Kids are savage and they 100% play it up for an audience. I wouldn't want my kids to act this way, but empathy and kindness are my main goals as a parent. However, my kids say "rude" things regularly. Getting a shocked reaction is funny to kids. She's living in a world that I will never understand, but I'd bet she's a lot more chill off camera.
I do think that part of this is up to Kim, and she’s allowing it, because of the sort of precocious and bratty way that Norrh is allowed to act. Like I would never let my kid talk to somebody that way, but I can see how it’s being allowed for the cameras
Yeah, but why is Kim asking her 9 year old daughter what are her thoughts on the dress in the first place? Kim was already asking her daughter for critiquing on the dress in front of the designer, which also makes it feel staged
I think from 9-12 years old I became very aware of myself, had an attitude problem, and was beginning to go through puberty. I can’t even imagine going through that on camera. North seems extremely smart and is just absorbing information from the adults around her. I think it’s insane for an adult to be so nasty to her. She is just a kid! I really hope North doesn’t see a lot of the things said about her :/
I think it's insane for her to be so nasty to adults. Who does she think she is? She's just a kid who has never learned any manners or respect for adults.
I hope North sees EVERY bad thing said about her. Obviously no one in her real life is going to put her in check, but hopefully if she sees the response her attitude gets her from others she'll realize she should behave differently
There's no way a child of Kim Kardashian and Kanye West could possibly be humble. Kim should not have allowed North to talk trash in front of that designer.
9:33 What’s so sad is there’s a video of North who was like 2 or 3 at the time, just a toddler, getting out of a car & she’s screaming at the paparazzi “NO PICTURES!!!!” Like she was a baby! That’s not fair for her. Yes her mom & Aunts signed up for that but she didn’t. I feel really bad for her & all those kids.
Lol I feel like people overreact to children behaviour like they still think a child should be seen and not heard . Wtf is that saying again? The adults teach them to be a certain way and then punish them. I think in general kid a are punished for.things that is just ridiculous it's the adults taking their own carp out on kids who are easy targets
So you would let your children talk to adults like that even a teacher or a police officer and if your children talk like that to the wrong person and bam your little brat is being taught a lesson
@@donaldbensingerjr4528and they'll go to prison for it. Because today we don't accept that shit to more. I had to go to therapy from being beat up by my teacher. Today they lose everything if they do that.
@@donaldbensingerjr4528People that beat up a child for behaving like a child have no place in society. And idc what you're gonna say only people that didn't drew up in poverty ever cry that physical discipline is okay and should still be normal. Nope. No.
I actually agreed with… whichever Kardashian sister it was that told North that there’s a way to be honest without being hurtful. That’s a tact that children _should_ learn. It’s cute at a certain age when they don’t know any better, but as they get older it’s not so cute anymore and it just comes off as being a disrespectful little sh¡t. Which can morph into someone just being an outright b¡tch as an adult when the tact isn’t there and it’s a delicate situation - especially if you don’t _know_ the person on a deep level and they expect it from you, like a best friend or something. However, I think it’s silly to go and talk about a whole child who is literally living a wildly different life than most of us will ever live and talk about her as though she doesn’t have feelings, see? _Tact._ She still has a lot of learning to do as it is, however the family should’ve nipped that a lot sooner than recently. I agree.
North's childhood has been robbed from her. No child will ever develop normally being put on full blast like she is. I'll give props to Kim for asking for north's opinion during the fitting. I thought that was a good parent moment. But there's no way tou can judge North's behavior because she is so alone in her upbringing experience. It's so brutal.
Gen X here. I did everything to be polite. At my 10th birthday I was offered cheesecake as my birthday cake. My narc mom knew that I hated cheesecake, but because the staff at the restaurant (*who didn't know) and because I did not want to hurt anybody... I ate the slice of cheesecake with a smile on my face. At the end, I gracefully thanked every member of the restaurant staff. My mother was a vicious narc who demanded perfection. She knew that I didn't want a slice of cheesecake and told the staff and restaurant manager how "stupid" I was for eating cake I didn't like. But, all the staff and manager of the restaurant praised me for being the sweetest child. My narc mother threw out all my birthday presents as soon as we got home because I had the audacity to be a grateful child. Bad parenting is an epidemic. And The Kardashians are the worst example of authenticity and humility. At age 9, I had more respect and consideration than many influencers and their children have today.
I actually totally get where you're coming from. I think that sometimes, when a person is raised by someone with no sense of consideration for others, it causes that person to want to strive to be better. My mother has always been a source of embarrassment and frustration for me due to how she treated other people, including myself and especially in public. I have always worked very hard to try to be the total opposite. It's not self aggrandizing to recognize that you are a polite and considerate person, especially when you have had to live with someone who is the antithesis of that behavior, to the point of being abusive, it sounds like. Be proud you had the sense to try to do and be better and that you haven't allowed yourself to become like her. ❤
Mom of three here, raised them all in a working class home. We may have been poor but guess what I always heard? How lovely their manners are. Where are North's peers? I only ever see her in adult situations where no child has any business being. Of course she's going to talk like a tiny annoying adult. Kim is TOO patient with her and needs to teach her how to be a kid instead of how to be an adult. That includes keeping the cameras off her and telling her to make her bed and clean her room.
Kids are brutal. They need to be taught and guided to be empathetic/polite etc. the first video shows her having an honest reaction and kim guiding her to express herself in a kinder (and lets me be honest socially acceptable) response. Kids dont jnow until they are taught. People need to stop picking about childrens behaviour, regardless of who their parents are.
Imagine being a couture designer having to subjugate yourself to a 9 year old with no fashion experience just because your client is there. Like pandering to the "fashion advice" of a human still losing their baby teeth when you literally have decades of fashion and design experience. This kid is a nightmare in the making. It doesn't matter if she's smart or even right, if she's arrogant or nasty about it, she's still a mini monster. And honestly, it's on the parents and adults around her to teach her differently.
When this family provokes and taunts the audience/social media to get attention and then pushes their “child” out there, letting her have social media at a young age and encouraging outrageous or disrespectful behavior to also get attention, then they lose the right to point fingers at everyone saying they’re bullying a “child”. Nope. I have no sympathy for anyone in this family when they complain about being critiqued. What do they expect??
I'm personally not a fan of her attitude or the way to speaks to adults. That being said, she is a child and they will always push boundaries to see what they can get away with and they learn thru example. I think Kim needs to be more stern with her about what is or is not appropriate.
Here's the thing: that is not a child, she's a spin off. There's no way she was going to be a regular kid, the kind of kid who actually gets excited about the dollar store
She acts like a spoiled entitled awful teenager instead of like a child HER AGE!!- her energy is not clean… she feels heavy and darker… she is a child she should not feel Like that. - energetically I am talking. - I blame the whole Kardashians family. No child that young should be so exposed.
I also find kids annoying but 💯 agree with you that people need to not disconnect themselves to the point of being cruel to a ten yr old. Not only is her mum and family who they are, but also her dad is someone who has certainly made some choices of late, but is also hated by many, but are experiencing Mental illness. She isn't immune to that and that's hard on a little one. I reckon she is in the process of building a wall to feel in control of herself. Thanks for the vid❤
I feel for North, yes she could have been kinder, but she was being pushed for her opinion. Kids that age will 100% tell you without filter, exactly what they think!! Also take into consideration that the adults around her actively choose to be on tv, but North doesn't seem to have a say which could be a cause of stress for her and maybe why she's developed her sassiness? Difficult situation bless her
she’s into fashion and was asked for her opinion! she’s a product of her environment. she was being honest. i think children are held to such a high standard when it comes to respect, and we have to remember they are newer to the world, they have their own opinions and personalities AND they also mirror what they see/hear. we have to model for them the kind of respect we want them to put out into the world.
@@courtneylust i agree! she said what i think a lot of professional fashion critics would say, she’s just a child and said it in front of the designer so people aren’t taking it well. she has a good eye.
I don't think the paparazzi differentiate between adult celebrities and celebrity's children, which sucks for the kids. She might be annoying but she is still a child, whose behavior has been influenced by her environment. Ppl online should give her a break.
I really love your take on this. I think people forget that she is just a *child.* I do feel that Kim could be more assertive as a parent. And as for Kanye...well... yeah.
Dealing with obnoxious behavior in children requires a nuanced approach. It's important to consider various factors that may contribute to their behavior, such as age, developmental stage, and environmental influences. Understanding and addressing the underlying causes can be more effective than simply labeling the behavior as "obnoxious." Positive reinforcement, clear communication, and setting appropriate boundaries are key elements in fostering positive behavior in children.
The whole dress thing was Kim's fault Cuz she shldnt have asked her in front on the designer as if north was an equal in the convo lol. At the very least Kim clda shut it down when she saw it go left. I don't think she's disrespectful per se, she's just a kid allowed to navigate adult spaces as if she's adult. She's just a product of her parenting. But she seems like a sweet girl really. A sweet girl who gets No correction and isn't given social boundaries.
She may be disrespectful, but, I don't exactly see full grown adults going online to insult literal children to be respectful behavior either. Especially when it comes to calling things they do annoying/bad (like the lip syncing). Lest they forget they probably did plenty of "annoying" things as kids themselves. Only difference is their childhoods weren't so public and observed by so many people. I used to cringe watching home movies of myself sometimes.
As a mother to a 17 and a 11 yr old, yeah, she’s use to being able to say whatever she wants, it’s up to the parents to keep it under control and teach her respect to people, right now I don’t believe she respects anyone but probably her dad.
I have an almost 12 year old. She is feisty and knows her mind better than I ever did at her age. I think North is strong willed and sassy. I think that's fostered by her mother and their handlers because it makes for good entertainment. I also think that she's crying out for her mom's attention to just solely be on her and not the circus that surrounds them. She didn't choose this life but she's having to navigate it.
She's very blunt which i can respect because as a ten year old i was as well. I was an autistic child who was taught to be honest but to not say anything mean so i would say things i noticed without realizing that they could be hurtful because from my perspective i was being helpful by pointing it out (ex. "You need a pimple patch"). It very much was socially isolating until my mental understanding caught up to social expectations. With that said, she is a child being set up by Kim and the people around her to be entertainment and not being given the respect and privacy she deserves as a child to learn these kinds of things that everyone else is taught out of the spotlight. I think she's being treated as a shiny accessory and not as a human being. She has also shown through her behavior that she is trying to set boundaries as well that are not being respected in the slightest. TLDR: She's not being intentionally disrespectful to others, she's just not being socialized responsibly by the adults around her. People are being unfair to her considering her situation IN MY OPINION.
It's never okay to bully a kid, ESPECIALLY if it's coming from an adult. And I say that as a child-free person. We have the option to hide certain content from being recommended to us. As much as I don't like the Kardashian's, I would never bad mouth their children. It's not the kids fault that absolutely nothing is private for them.
North is not the only child in the world that doesn't have much of a filter. She's ten, kids at that age often don't know how to give criticism in a constructive, tactful way. That's a skill that takes years and years to develop. Also, in the clip we saw it looked like she didnt want to say much but the adults (especially Kim) were pushing her to give more criticism, and then the designer got all flustered about it 😂 Given how much North has been treated like this brand new star on KUWK, I have to wonder how much this behaviour is being encouraged just for drama. It's like producers want to showcase her as the *sassy* one of the family. And if none of it is scripted and this is her true, unprovoked self, I'm questioning what on earth is going on in her life to make such a young child so jaded, frustrated and exhausted. I feel that the Kardashian parents need to be held accountable for the way they constantly put their children in the spotlight and profit off of their presence. They're essentially robbing their kids of privacy at that point, and repeating the cycle that their mum set up.
Robert, I absolutely love your ability to really look at ALL sides of this issue. I'm a mom and operated a childcare for 9 years. Kids are extremely annoying and obnoxious. 😂 BUT, they depend on parents and other adults in their lives to teach them how to be whole people. Children are sponges and emulate what they see. I agree w your entire commentary on this one. ESPECIALLY the POV of her in training as a future woman in entertainment/business industry. WELL DONE!! 💜💜💜💜💜
Kim was disrespecting the designer, too, by letting her daughter give opinions in front of him and not pre-coaching her on how to behave beforehand. There's a time and a place- IT'S NOT IN FRONT OF THE *DESIGNER!!*
