Is Marvel's NEW Ultimate Universe BETTER Than The Old One?

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What's up guys? Today we are reviewing everything Marvel has done so far with the Ultimate Universe, and comparing how it sizes up to the one that came before. The original Ultimate Universe was obviously iconic and revolutionized not only Marvel as a brand, but also the comic industry as a whole. So to see it make such a strong, significant return has been VERY exciting. My question is, though: do they have what it takes to maintain that and continue to hit all of the strong points that they've hit already? What is this universe doing differently from the one that came before? What are they doing right, what are they doing wrong? That's what we're going to find out...in this video! If you enjoy and want more like this, let me know in the comments, like, subscribe, hit the notification bell, and I will see you in the next one! Thanks for watching!
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Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
0:19 - The Problem With The Original Ultimate Universe
1:36 - Ultimate Spider-Man
3:29 - Ultimate Black Panther
5:31 - Ultimate X-Men
7:23 - Recap/Review
7:31 - Why You Should Read Each Series NOW
8:06 - The Ultimates
8:29 - The Creativity of the Ultimate Universe
8:59 - What Marvel SHOULD & SHOULD NOT Do
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@billyboleson2830 12 дней назад

The original ultimate universe was pretty much hard carried by Spider-Man 😂

@The_Blue_Otaku 11 дней назад

Facts

@Fiendmaster101 11 дней назад

Yeah everyone else was either weird or a scumbag

@JES408 11 дней назад

No it wasn't lol it was carried by spiderman, X-Men, and ultimates but then they got greedy and made too many books and watered it down and ruined it lol after 5 years it was no good as a whole

@kntgaf 11 дней назад

yeah every character was fucked up in the head accept for peter/miles. It was like marvels take on the boys. terrible

@Fiendmaster101 11 дней назад

@@JES408 What do you mean ultimate X-men really only got good around the end of it’s story after ultimatum and I genuinely didn’t know there were people who enjoyed the Ultimates

@arachnidcomics6404 12 дней назад

Well this new Ultimate Universe doesn’t have cannibalism, incest, and it’s actually giving Spider-Man fans the story we’ve been asking for since One More Day. ……. *OF COURSE IT’S BETTER THAN THE OLD ONE!*

@BIGBMH 11 дней назад

It’s also only 4 months in. People look at the worst aspects of the original Ultimate Universe and define the whole thing by that, but let’s not forget everything it achieved. Original USM is considered by many to be one of the best Spider-man runs of all time. The new USM addresses the frustrations with 616, but I think the series and universe as a whole need to get a few years in before it’s hailed as better.

@BoxOfCurryos 11 дней назад

Incest???

@arachnidcomics6404 11 дней назад

@@BoxOfCurryos yea Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were doing each other.

@BoxOfCurryos 11 дней назад

@@arachnidcomics6404 😭😭😭 she bad asf but what was bro (pun intended) thinking 💀

@arachnidcomics6404 11 дней назад

@@BIGBMH yeah I hail this new universe as better from the start because from the jump none of the characters we’re supposed to root for are doing any of that horrible crap the previous universe did. Ultimates and Ultimate X-Men were screwed from the start, making Captain America a nationalist, making Wolverine a creep who tried to get with teenage Mary Jane while in Peter’s body, making Hulk a cannibal, making Hank Pym even more of a domestic abuser, making Nightcrawler homophobic, having Magneto yell out “Get out of my head you stupid cripple!” to Professor X, I COULD GO ON! All that to ask, how in the world are we supposed to like these characters? Now in terms of USM, I’ll admit, I am a little bit bias since I never really liked the idea for the story. Gradually with time I began to kinda like it so I’ll give you that. But in terms of any other series other than SM, it’s all ready doing a much better job.

@DrDetfink 11 дней назад

It’s not a home run. It’s more of a double. It’s basically the Ultimate universe of the Ultimate universe. I like the idea of a middle aged Peter Parker becoming a hero, juggling his family life with a hero in middle class lifestyle. I like the idea of Wakanda as an absolute monarchy, struggling with its past and warring with its neighbors over technology. It’s Wakanda West Wing meets the Crown. I like the idea of the X-men as seen by a non-American female.

@matterstoyou2970 10 дней назад

Not a new character though per say looks like a riff on that character; ARMOR

@cleanupguy3934 8 дней назад

@@matterstoyou2970not even a riff, it just is Armor. Or at least this universe’s version of Armor

@Invaderbob7 10 дней назад

I've read Black Panther my entire life and just when I was losing hope. We got ultimate Black Panther. Amazing art style, phenomenal suit, refreshing character dynamics without betraying the core concepts of each of the main cast. Magnificent. But in the mainline Black Panther ever since the end of the 'intergalactic empire' Arc, Not only the art style but the story has just been so terrible. Even if the art style was better I could stomach it but it feels like Marvel's not hiring anyone with art styles that complement the story at all. Nothing the current artists are bad is just that there's a right person for every job and these people ain't it

@worthyicez2715 10 дней назад

Same. This video kinda undersold it but T’Challa got done terribly in the OG Ultimate line. They made him Cap’s protege, mute (which isn’t inherently a problem but they did nothing with it), and lame as hell. I love seeing him centered in Ultimate Black Panther with a high octane political thriller. It very much feels like a return to form for a character that’s been rudderless in the main universe for nearly a decade. Nice to see him out the suit a bit more and tackling Wakanda’s isolationism. The art is nearly perfect too

@Invaderbob7 9 дней назад

@@worthyicez2715 TaNehisi Coates gave them the world with the intergalactic empire storyline. They could have gone anywhere with it or revisited decade old payoffs from earlier in his run. Put instead of afropunk Star wars we got a half-assed spy thriller and a Batman rip off

@forgottenmessiah 9 дней назад

Ultimate Spider-Man is everything to me right now, last 3 years for 616 Spider-Man was a disaster

@sevensvn5391 11 дней назад

I'd say we might actually know a lot about The Ultimates given a certain interview with Deniz Camp and the fact that it's basically a direct follow up to Ultimate Invasion and Ultimate Universe #1.

@endamcnabola 11 дней назад

I just hope it can get more titles maybe Guardians of the Galaxy, Nova, Inhumans, etc.

@cadenscomics9300 9 дней назад

ultimate guardians would be SO COOL

@fadelrizalr1030 8 дней назад

@@cadenscomics9300 it could be cool if they used the original ones,that Will make the difference between the earth 1610 and 616

@JW-jf7yp 12 дней назад

I'm glad we are getting Peter in a more mature point in his life and he has a family with MJ. I'm worried that something awful will happen.

@ampocalypsew3883 11 дней назад

The past ultimate only gave us two good things, and those two people are Miles Morales and The maker. If anyone thinks the ultimate story or other characters in that past run was better, their trying to be different

@BaithNa 9 дней назад

You clearly haven't read the original Ultimate comics because they inspired everything Marvel has done since 2000, including movies, animation, live action TV and even mainline comics.

@ampocalypsew3883 9 дней назад

@@BaithNa oh I have and it was shit, keep in mind the movies took inspiration from both books.

@Invo_ 4 дня назад

The OG ultimate Spider-Man was goated, idk what your on

@ampocalypsew3883 4 дня назад

@@Invo_ mmmmm no if anything he went through a lot of bs, and didn't he cheated on his gf?

@BIGBMH 12 дней назад

While I think there's potential in this new set of titles, it rubs me the wrong way to call them "Ultimate." It feels like a cheap marketing tool. Let it be its own thing. To me, giving it the name of the former universe creates a sense of replacing and erasing what came before. USM in particular deserves a little more respect than having its title given to a series that makes no effort to carry its story and legacy forward.

@meswoopnoseenothing 12 дней назад

It’s called ultimate because ultimate Reed Richards took a world that was originally similar to his own, and then tore it apart and change everything

@franciscoOrellana29 12 дней назад

It is called that because it has a connection to the older ultimate universe that is the character of the maker (aka reed richards)

@BIGBMH 12 дней назад

@@meswoopnoseenothing I understand that, but if someone from 616 did the same thing to another universe, we probably wouldn’t call it 616B. One character from the Ultimate Universe manipulating a new universe does not constitute carrying forward the legacy and narrative of the Ultimate line. I appreciate Hickman’s approach to Peter, but Miles Morales’s series has more of a claim to the title “Ultimate Spider-Man” than that of the new Peter.

@CoolGuy-te1pt 12 дней назад

I agree with you man. They should’ve gone with a different adjective, like “astonishing,” or something like that. Something completely new to signify a new set of stories.

@jerfuhrer2581 12 дней назад

@@CoolGuy-te1pt"Maker's Marvel: Spider-Man", "Maker's Marvel: X-men"

@thatonkgau5221 11 дней назад

The original ultimate universe comics was just a bunch of angsty edgelord fanfiction. It was dark and edgy just for the sake of it and not because it fit the story or narrative they killed off important characters unceremoniously. And for no reason so many major characters died in Ultimatum Wolverine, Angel, Professor X and Even Magneto.

@readmorecomix 11 дней назад

I'm enjoying all three Ultimate universe titles.... Ultimate spider-man being my favorite. I still get excited for the next issue of each.

@James-kv3ll 11 дней назад

The new X-men character’s design is really cool. I like the aesthetic style of the book.

@monelmonelmonel День назад

Will it continue though

@rivaldovillegas3725 11 дней назад

Well Spiderman and the X Men where the only ones carrying it despite X Men could have been a little better with characters. So yeah having a new one where all the series are equal to each is a good idea. Especially how different The Avengers are.

@Adroldero 11 дней назад

So happy I can get these comics digitally same day as release on VeVe comics! It’s been a game changer since my LCS is always out of them

@lukeamparo6586 11 дней назад

Weird they started X-Men with the girl from the X-Men anime. Hisako and her armor powers. I think her code name was armor too. She’s also considered one of Wolverine’s surrogate daughters along with Jubilee, Kitty Pride, X23, etc.

@thatonkgau5221 11 дней назад

Which is really weird out of all the X men start out your new universe why Hisako. Seriously out of everyone Wolverine, Storm, Rouge, Gambit hell Cyclops was the first X man why not start with him. Also I only know Hisako from the X men anime not the comics and I think it would make more sense for her to be Cyclops Surrogate daughter or Emma frost.

@silversoulken 11 дней назад

@@thatonkgau5221 Ah stop the complaining lol. Its a different take where they’re showing the world before you get to know what its like with the X-Men in it. It’s simply a buildup and they are doing it the right way by using a newer, lesser known character to introduce it all (that also happens to match the tone for the art of the issue).

@justindixon1586 11 дней назад

⁠@@silversoulkenI like that they used lesser known characters but armor is the only one. They got original character like maystorm and nastu who’s coming. I love that it’s not making Wolverine the face of everything X but it feels weird there’s so few. I’m definitely reading the shit out of it but I hope it goes on to show more of the lore especially if ultimate does well enough to make more titles. I love giving mutants a younger reimagining especially if it’s one’s that barley get attention.

@thatonkgau5221 11 дней назад

@@silversoulken I'm not complaining just saying it's a little weird that doesn't mean i don't like the comic

@nenohuh 9 дней назад

because the author is japanese and we barely get a lot of main focus asian mutants

@artandourentertainment.2077 9 дней назад

I love the new Ultimate run too. I’m glad Black Panther is having his day in the sun, especially within the Ultimate universe.

@seanking8427 10 дней назад

1:36 Ultimate Spider-Man is my favorite both in the old (1610) and new (6160)

@Flamne 11 дней назад

Marvel keeps trying to pander to a audience I don't think they will, Manga Reader or Anime Fans, Now they're set in Japan but unlike the original big hero, This feels more like a ANIME. rather than americanized manga, I am having so much fan, I know the art and the story direction will change either way when we get to the American side of things, But I am so fcking satisfied with this one, Grats to marvel team for actual hiring Japanese Artist, The original gwenpool run was my thing too

@sadguy399 12 дней назад

Hey brother! Just discovered your channel with the Batman:First Knight video and I’m really liking everything I’ve seen so far! Keep it up and you’ll be riding high soon!!!

@gapdaniel99 12 дней назад

um akshually 👆🤓the new ultimate universe started with ultimate invasion and the first official new branding for it was in ultimate universe #1 🤓🤓🤓

@chillinwithluis 13 дней назад

Dropped another great video homie!

@sebastianstark8517 11 дней назад

UBP and USM are both good books. UXM should have been called UArmor, because that's really what it is so far. It's not X-men.

@BaithNa 9 дней назад

2 issues into Ultimate X-Men and we still haven't seen a single X-Man besides Armor and she's not even on the team.

@arran4285 4 дня назад

@@BaithNa I don't think the X-Man team exist in the Universe yet

@AlanNoMoney 11 дней назад

The ultimate universe is a product of its time and ultimately (no pun intended) became what it was trying to avoid by having its own continuity be a problem. I’m sure this universe will eventually get there. Also I’m tired of the Maker.

@ShionKenobi День назад

I blame Ultimatum Trash event, after that everything went downhill...well ,spidey kept cool. Oh, Ultimates Vol 1and 2 were kinda solid, but everything after was abominable.

@Wezt334 11 дней назад

Currently no but if Hickman and the other writers can tell one long form cohesive story that may include all or most of the titles created similar to his runs from FF - Secret Wars then it could be great however it should not be looked at as a new long term line of comics as they inevitably fail with the exception of usually 1 title per that line e.g. 2099 failed - Spider-Man 2099 was the success, MC2 failed - Spider-Girl was the success, 1610 failed - Ultimate Spider-Man was the success….hmm I’m seeing a trend here where the Spider related book was not only the first book published in each line but was the most successful but surely 6160 won’t follow the same trend…oh wait…

@allissonmanzini9806 11 дней назад

If we will judge the new one based in so few editions, you must judge the old one by his first editions too. Compare only the errors of the oldest with so few material of the new, is simply injustice. For example, the new spider-man doesn't even questioning the goblin about the ilegal imprisionment of the Shocker, and this is a little bizarre in my opinion.

@AdamD330 6 дней назад

I’m very excited to see the Ultimate version of Wasp in this universe. I’m a big Janet fan and I hope we get a fantastic interpretation of the character. I also can’t wait to see the Ultimate Fantastic Four especially Ben. Also we did see Ultimate Matt in the first issue of Ultimate Spider-Man but I hope we see more of him.

@BaithNa 9 дней назад

It's probably due to the release schedule but this new Ultimate Universe seems to be starting very slowly. Read the old Ultimate comics, besides Spider-man, they all start out with a bang and don't slow down until the end of the first volumes.

@ltrain7715 11 дней назад

The new ultimate spiderman is so good everyone should read it

@aryferreira2375 11 дней назад

I think in the new Ultimate Universe the Xmen isnt mutation but s mystical kind of power that some people get it I love it is so wierd so much want to know like the first time you ear about Xmen

@OseghaleIghalo 11 дней назад

ultimate spider man og was peak 😡

@yemlihansagir1371 9 дней назад

Will Tony Stark be calling him self Silver Centurion instead of Iron Lad because Tony needs to grow up and his dad called himself Iron man.

@PLATANOPOWER3000 11 дней назад

My hope for the ultimate avengers lineup is cap iron man hulk Thor wasp and ant man

@dantecrottogini529 2 дня назад

The 1st arc of each series isn't even wrapped up. Let's give it some time before comparing

@MysteryMedia2001 10 дней назад

Damn, these sound really interesting, I might actually have to pick some of these up

@Animemus 4 дня назад

With how Japanese centric the new Ultimate X-Men comic is I feel like they could’ve done Ultimate Big Hero 6 instead. Disney isn’t making a sequel and they haven’t appeared in Earth-616 since I think Ends of the Earth so plop it into this universe. Armor’s powers basically the same as Fredzilla’s.

@YZ87110 10 дней назад

If Jonathan Hickman is behind the new ultimate comics run then it is going to be good.

@papingosstudios161 5 дней назад

Really hope we get an ultimate fantastic 4 thats more focused on futuristic scfi but in the style of the 60s

@yemlihansagir1371 9 дней назад

The scheme is like the Ultimate X-men is half magic/mutant.

@dominicusheard6171 9 дней назад

I love the original ultimate universe I'm a sucker for teenage Peter Parker but this new universe is gonna be something big I'm already enjoying it to me it's like a ultimate universe what if stories

@acetrainerj3277 11 дней назад

I want to start reading the new Ultimates and Black Panther, but I will say that I'm loving Ultimate Spiderman so far

@cleanupguy3934 8 дней назад

So, is this a complete reboot of the original Ultimate universe, or is it a continuation?

@ChadFile 4 дня назад

I like the direction so far, but I liked the black ops set the that surrounded the Ultimates.

@AG_Speaks 12 дней назад

This video is so funny cause the universe JUST started 💀

@Eddiebleakley 2 дня назад

he’s not being brutal to it though so its alright. the story of the universe is only beginning and he seems to keep that door open in this video.

@bigfootapologetics 8 дней назад

My only concern is that in some ways, it doesn't work as an independent universe by virtue of the story itself; the entire story is predicated on the idea of a universe that would've been different had not the Maker from a different comic book reality interfered, and as such, we're not dealing with characters being built from the ground up, but characters aspiring to versions of themselves that they "should have been." That being said, we've hardly seen some characters, but they're already some of my favorite versions. Daredevil as a priest? (And not as the contrived "what an atheist thinks a priest is like" in the 616 run) Thor as an actual stoic, serious godlike character? Spider-man as a man and not as a manchild / whatever Wells thinks he's doing? It's wonderful.

@ColeMacGillivary-zi9wq 12 дней назад

I think this ultimate universe is definitely better than the original. Ultimate Spider-Man is my favorite comic book series of the decade and is just phenomanal. The fan service is great and the writing and art are so good! Ultimate Black Panther is super good too. It really is what modern 616 Black panther comics should be. And Ultimate X-Men is intresting. I hope we get other characters down the line. Ultimates looks pretty epic. The of wasn't perfect but this one is so far.

@mrmelonman2893 10 дней назад

It just started there's barely any books tf

@ColeMacGillivary-zi9wq 6 дней назад

I know I like the first few books.🙄

@salvatoreocello 11 дней назад

0:00 yes

@yamatokira4335 8 дней назад

Ultimate Spider-Man is a solid books. This book is even better than Bendis Ultimate Spider-Man, back in 2000.

@hollandaise11 13 дней назад

DEATH NOTE MENTIONED RAHHHHHHHHHHHH

@dominicusheard6171 9 дней назад

They need to keep miles away for a little while if they do bring him into this universe make him a villain or something this needs to be a Peter Parker solo story

@AngryAnimeFan2 9 дней назад

Maybe that’s true about the xmen thing being wierd. I wanted to see old ones and hopefully a good hearted Beast again

@punkrocks9226 10 дней назад

Guys, am i the only one who wanted 1610 peter back or at least see a teen pete again cuz im not rly a fan of this new version

@EBenny 2 дня назад

Maybe bcs ngl I'm tired of teen Peter, I want college or teacher Peter. Plus most Spider-Man stories lately have Peter in highschool/teen age and I'm personally tired of it

@hollandaise11 13 дней назад

W video

@davidrengifovargas518 9 дней назад

*Marvel after making a master peace ultimate universe* : ´´Naaaa this is competing with the cinematic universe people is asking, where to read the comics after watching the shows, lets make it more similar to the show and not the other way around´´ *Ruined and restarting again* ´´Why people dont like it? ´´ (Marvel Ceo and board of directors are the worst enemy of Marvel)

@GhostPengwen 10 дней назад

The potential that this new ultimate universe has is astronomical. I know a lot of people are iffy with it and I know a lot of people didn't like the original ultimate universe. I think overall this new ultimate universe will pass the original, overtime. The only thing that is going to be near impossible to surpass, is the original Ultimate Spider-man. There's no denying that, that series is not only one of the greatest Spider-man runs of all time; but debatably one of the greatest comic runs of all time. This new series so far tho, is really good and only time will tell.

@seanking8427 10 дней назад

Well it’s definitely better than the 616 Universe

@yemlihansagir1371 9 дней назад

What graphics did you use for the Ultimate Black Panther.

@MimeSlayer1337 12 дней назад

Im just so burnt out, behind, and genuinely uninterested in yet ankther recolor of all my heroes with slightly different stories

@baileypass9039 11 дней назад

As far as spider man and x men go it is very different from the other versions. Peter is middle aged and x men is starting off in Japan it seems like, possibly without professor x. It kind of feels like runaways meets x men. Black Panther and Storm are freedom fighters. I’ve only read the first issue of that one though. It’s definitely different, but intriguing.

@James-kv3ll 11 дней назад

Recolor? Bro this is how comics work. How they’ve always worked. New issues, new releases, new stories that repeat the same beats as before. Grow up

@G-LukeJA 11 дней назад

Read some indie comics, or read Ultimate X-Men, since as said, it has no ties to X-Men so far

@goose1752 10 дней назад

yes

@czms922 11 дней назад

Hmmmmm not ready to say that yet

@EMO_alpha 10 дней назад

These comics look good.

@damer50 10 дней назад

Lol I love how they forgot that Jimmy Hudson exists

@SpideyfanX 11 дней назад

It's at least keeping a single Spider-Man in the universe so far, so yes! Miles should have stayed in 1610 as its sole Spider-Man.

@conradojavier7547 8 дней назад

The New Ulitimate Universe should be a Blueprint of a Less Woke, more Refine MCU.

@rococopati 10 дней назад

The original was better they went their own way but after they did it More like the normal mu it went down to shit Ultimates was amazing

@pelicanhill3251 9 дней назад

Too early to say. There are some interesting new ideas in this ultimate universe, but nothing I've read so far is as good as Ultimates 1 and 2. Even if those stories had a lot of annoying Mark Millarisms.

@hilariomartinez3095 11 дней назад

Still like the old ultimate

@FreshNews247 4 дня назад

Problem with this ultimate universe it doesnt feel different. The way OG UU did

@CrimsonHorsmen День назад

Thats armor i dont lnow much about her but she cool from what i read not surprised she is japanes

@ridzwanlagenda2949 6 дней назад

Ultimate x men look like digimon from foxkids

@jonathanathor117 10 дней назад

This ultimate universe somewhat reminds me of how the world of code geass is with the overall geography/ countries.

@williamhowe1 9 дней назад

Well for one thing none of the heroes here are assholes so far.

@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 9 дней назад

How many people have been eaten so far?

@BaithNa 9 дней назад

How can you make this comparison when you haven't read most of the old Ultimate books? You're judging a very small number of books against a ton of books that you've never read 😂😂😂

@DontTakeThisSeriously616 9 дней назад

I read: Ultimate Spider-Man The Ultimates Ultimate Fantastic Four Ultimate Daredevil & Elektra Ultimate Elektra Ultimate Iron Man The Ultimates 2 Ultimate Iron Man 2 Ultimate Nightmare Ultimate Enemy Ultimate War Ultimate Six Ultimate Mystery Ultimate Doom Ultimate Power Ultimate Human Ultimate Vision Ultimate Comics Spider-Man Ultimatum Ultimate Comics Avengers Ultimate Comics Captain America Ultimate Comics Thor Ultimate Comics Hawkeye Ultimate Comics Iron Man Ultimate Comics New Ultimates Ultimate Comics Avengers vs New Ultimates Ultimate Fallout Ultimate Comics Ultimates Ultimates Comics Wolverine Ultimate Comics Spider-Man (Miles) Just because I didn't read specific ones like Ultimate X-Men and Ultimates 3 because I don't want to read *too* much garbage doesn't mean I've never read any of them.