In my opinion, I think that corruption had a really good story. I really liked the concept of other hunters being corrupt by this powerful poison that can destroy planets (by destroy I mean leave in ruins, kind of like how the “great poison” took out all of the Chozo in MP1)
It felt like the perfect end to the Phazon trilogy. We watch the Phazon grow from this radioactive powersource to this living cosmic horror element. I also love the evolution of Dark Samus in both story and design. Starting from this inhuman monster to a crude copy of Samus to wearing her own form of living armor.
@@chrisdaily2077 I also like how unlike other games, it’s main focus was Phazon. This is why I totally agree with you on MP3 being the perfect end to the trilogy.
What is being said is that turning off hints in the options still gives the player information after they had deliberately asked for none. You won't be told what room to go to exactly, but 242 will still pop up and tell you generally what you need to do either way. As a personal point, I'm mostly fine with this since telling you what you need to do, but not precisely where you need to go can encourage exploration to a certain extent, but an issue others have with this system is that they feel 242 breaks immersion and the feeling of solitude that many loved the first two games for, and they just want her to shut up. so, while it doesn't personally bother me that much, I would argue that not having the option to leave the player exclusively to their own intuition, as Prime and Echoes before it did, is a flaw on Corruption's part.
@@GodlyGoku101 You needed that. Annihilator beam with no ammo is too OP. Maybe if that specific beam had been different...but man, the projectiles chased the enemies 🤣
I thoroughly enjoyed Corruption. I enjoyed the use of the motion controls because it wasn't as invassive as skyward sword. I hated skyward sword because of it's controls but MP3's were ok. I loved sky town too. I enjoyed the ship sections and I agree with you that they could have done more with that idea. Good review of MP3.
@@icloudtrevorI really liked this game for not only the reasons you had stated here, but also how damn good the music was. The Metroid Prime Trilogy music was so good
@@TheGuyWhoAsked104 when i was a kid i listened to the soundtrack all the time from RU-vid. I like phendrehna drifts (spelled differently im sure), the magmoor caverns music, the start screen themes for all 3, and the boss fight with that robot dude from corruption was an epic track. However the sound played in the phazon mines from prime one terrifies me to this day
I loved the motion controls in MP3 even the canister ones when you had the twist the Wii Mote. It reminded me of the scene in Alien when Ripley activates the Nostromo's self destruct.
about half of the ship cutscenes can be skipped, the only ones that cant be skipped are the scenes of the ship enter/exiting hyperspace to jump from one planet to another as those are actual loading screens. I'll also take the ship over any of the other transportation methods any day. Prime 3 has only a hand full of 'elevators' like in Prime 1 and 2 but the ship basically bypasses all of them as an all encompassing fast travel mechanic. Having to travel to a specific elevator to then go from one place to another or even potentially multiple elevator rides just to reach a certain destination will always be worse than just traveling to the nearest ship yard, calling your ship, and then traveling directly to the spot you want from almost anywhere in the map.
All three are 9.X/10 games for me, with the first possibly being a 10/10. For me, personally, Echos is the weakest, and it goes 1>3>2. I often found the dark world off putting to the point I was reluctant to explore it, and I disliked all the one-way paths (which aren't even clearly marked as such on the map). These were only minor gripes though and Echos is still amazing over all. Prime 3 doesn't initially have the same feelings of isolation and atmosphere that the first two do, but around the time you reach Skytown it starts getting better and better. Both Skytown and Pirate Homeworld are some of my favorite environments of the whole trilogy (Skytowns Metroid Lab was when I suddenly realized how invested I was). Also quick shout out to the motion controls - best on the Wii, no exception. Set it to advanced to give the smallest deadzone and it's so freaking smooth. Prime trilogy adding those controls to the first two games deserves special mention as that was my preferred way to play all three till Prime Remastered.
It has been a long time since I played Corruption, but I distinctly remember it being one of my first Metroid titles. I would say it's probably my least favourite out of the games that aren't mediocre, even though I should have fond memories of it. Exploration is what I look for in Metroid and Corruption just doesn't deliver. The linearity feels particularly frustrating in this game compared to others in the series. It's been a long time, so I can't pinpoint exactly why, but I think it has something to do with the progression just not being as satisfying. Yes, you do get better equipment as you go on, but they feel more situational. I don't feel nearly as godlike as I do at the end of other games. Another thing is that I remember not liking the combat. Feels very restrictive. I'm not a big fan of games that restrict options for combat (doom eternal, souls games) and much prefer expressive, free flowing combat in games (ultrakill, devil may cry) so it's just really not my cup of tea in general, but there was potential for it to be what I like. The beams didn't really need to be separated and hypermode feels disconnected considering there isn't any real threat to you using it, since if you manage your usage, you can actually make it not consume any health at all, iirc. What I will say, however, is that I adore the presentation. They absolutely nailed the music and art direction in this game. Perhaps this is a little bit of my first game bias coming out, but I just can't get enough of corruption's detailed yet simplistic art design. It's unconsciously inspired me in my own creative work and has influenced how I view all of the other games in the franchise. I don't hate corruption, and it was definitely an important title for me personally, since I may have never gotten into the series without it, but I can't say that it's high on my ranking. I definitely think Prime 2 was where the Prime series peaked. Here's hoping Prime 4 is good.
If Metroid Prime was 3D Super Metroid, then Metroid Prime 3 is 3D Metroid Fusion: more linear, less freedom, more emphasis on story than previous games, where Samus also gets absolutely stupid powerful at endgame even by Metroid standards. There's even a voice constantly telling you exactly where to go in both games. Corruption was my introduction to the Metroid Prime series, and Metroid as a whole. I know that because it was on the Wii, they kinda dumbed it down a bit to make it more entry level to fit with the Wii's more casual audience. But I mean... it brought me into the series and made me a fan for life, so you can't say it doesn't accomplish exactly what it sets out to do.
I really liked Corruptions story, levels and visuals. Skytown is one of my favorite areas in Metroid, I wish you could do more with the ship commands it's a very fun idea. Maybe in 4 since that version of the ship is returning we might see it usable outside of scripted puzzle instances. The bosses felt a bit weak though, I feel, to compensate for hyper mode, the boss fights have a lot of invulnerability phase and you're chipping at something to then do damage to their actual health bar, they can take forever. Though the final fight with Dark Samus and the Aurora unit was quite good.
@@tvoyager7 maybe, but to get to sanctuary, I have to treck through 80% of the game, something that isn't worth going through torvus for. Prime 1 or 3 never really had an arduous part of the game that made it not worth going through to get to the moments and areas that I adore.
To... Get to Sanctuary? Yea, its the 3rd 4th of the game. You know whats sucks? Treking back to the quarantine mines after getting the xray visor in sticks of Tallon Overworld
@@tvoyager7 idk, map traversal through biomes was never a huge issue for me in prime 1. It was kinda annoying going through magmore caverns when there was nothing visually interesting in it other than the space pirate platform.
Regarding the trilogy, this game: -Is the easiest to navigate -Is the easiest to 100% -has the best 100% reward (motha-effin SYLUX BAYBEE!) -while it doesn't have the most iconic bosses, it also does not have the War Wasp hives, Alpha Blogg, or Spider Guardian -actually has the ship do things -has the best grapple abilities in the series (suck it, Other M, Returns, and even Dread) -while it has bad loading times, it's at least honest with them (as it turns out, the chozo ghosts and dark pirates were supposedly measures implemented to compensate for loading times) -allows massively less restriction with motion controls. -HAS THE JUMPBALL THAT PRIME 2 SORELY NEEDED. Granted, Prime Hunters will always be my pick for best Prime Game, but Metroid Prime 3 is legit a great time. Possibly my second favorite.
Great video! I have always liked the prime trilogy, but I think 3 is the weakest. I'm surprised to see you have less than 500 subscriberd because you make such quality videos! Keep up the good work!
Prime 3 had the best story by far in my opinion. But the gameplay felt very “linear” even though it was as open as the first 2. And I think that aside from the hints it mostly comes down to the smaller planet sizes. For prime 4 I hope we have a prime 3 scale story, on one big lonely planet.
I love Prime 3. Love the PED Suit and its morph ball. I love Rundas and Ghor. I love the new ship and the little bobble head you can unlock. And even though its pretty much pointless as a mechanic aside from blowing up debris, I love that you can call an airstrike with your ship and you can even get capacity upgrades for those ship airstrikes. This game has cool ideas.
Corruption was pretty good. I liked how it knew what saved files that you had on your Wii and it put stickers and stuff on your ship for different games
The only hing that I probably not agree is when you say that gamecube control y pretty much the same as wii motion controls.... motion controls are way better and feel more natural to play with. I know that a lot of people won't agree with me but I think thats because they are too attached to the same. Motion controls for Metroid are the best way to play and something I didn't mention is that you can do some things with M controls that you can't do with GC controllers.
I personally liked the opening, the third entry in a trilogy always feels like the most explosive so it makes sense that they didn’t keep the same solo formula as the other two, it would’ve felt too repetitive. My biggest complaint was the motion controls, I get why they did it considering the button mapping limits on the wii remote but it was still bothersome when you moved the remote too far over and threw off the sensor bar
I think i need to replay it, but last time i did, i felt like it was going through the motions (no pun intended). Not a bad game by any means, I just don't remember it doing much for me
I'm partial toward MP3 since it was my first time ever playing any FPS. The Wii controls were a joy for me. Can't recall how many times I replayed this. Of course this compelled me to play 1 and 2; thoroughly enjoyed 1; wanted to enjoy 2, but I never finished because I couldn't master the wall jumping (still ticks me off; the screw attack is fluid in 3 and yet, trying to wall jump in 2 was an exercise in frustration). The soundtracks for all 3 are always a win for me. Probably try 2 again if it's available for the Switch when 4 is released. Even so, I will always be a huge fan of MP3.
Skytown was well worth it , fighting the other bounty hunters was so anti climatic as we barely even knew them , the more cinematic approach kiled the pacing a lot , and the bacl tracking wasnt as strong as the other 2 prime games
I really like that you eventually become alone in this game. You have allies at the beginning and slowly lose them as the game progresses, even having to bring down your fellow hunters all while fighting off the very same corruption
I played the trilogy version, so i have no experience with the GC version of prime 1 and 2, but i really enjoyed the looking around with the wiimote part, felt pretty natural after a while.
Apparently the Door loading issue was fixed and loading times were streamlined significantly in the Prime Trilogy Release/version of Prime 3. I cant remember which version i played tho tbh. I like this game but certain levels drive me nuts! It really picks up once you get to that Space Pirate Homeworld! And when ya compare it to the weaker Metroid entries (Metroid Prime Hunters & Other M) this game totally smokes!!
honestly if i could play corruption with a gamecube controller it would be as good as the others. I like to take my time to explore and scan everything and batteries are expensive 😂
I did not like 3’s fetch quest. I found it to be the most tedious and just really frustrating overall. But then again, I played the game like 15 years ago, so maybe I’d have a different opinion on it now if I played it again
I didn't like it on the wii as I cant stand motion controls so I dropped it after a few hours. I only beat the game about 2 or 3 years ago when I played the PC version with Mouse and Keyboard and I found it very enjoyable.
Soundtrack wise, it’s hard to say if Prime 2 or Prime has the best soundtrack but I would put Prime 2 above Prime 1. Even so… the Gandrayda’s theme is hands down the best boss soundtrack if not the best soundtrack in all 3 games
Prime 3 is probably the worst, but in my opinion it’s because of the hyper mode. It makes everything too easy. Also, the stuff with Samus’s ship was cool but it felt undeveloped and pointless. For example you can use the ship to drop a bomb but you can only do it once or twice in the ENTIRE GAME. That being said the game is still really good. Prime 2 had a few boss fights that felt like bullshit (the spider guardian anyone?) and the ammo mechanic was stupid. But overall I still think it’s better than prime 3. And prime 1 is easily the best. I struggle to find any legitimate flaws with prime 1 besides the pointless artifact hunt.
Yet, you gotta be careful when using Hypermode because if you stay in Hypermode for too long, you'll risk corruption. And if you don't expel it's energy, it's game over. Hell, you'll even go into Corrupted Hypermode if one of the Pirates throws a Phazon Grenade at you. Let's not forget that it's the only thing that can hurt Phazon Creatures or enemies that go into Hypermode. I didn't mind the Gunship's abilities either. It gives it more action beyond the limits of simple transportation. Plus, the Ship Missiles make Samus' Gunship..... a Gunship. Not just in the name only. Although, I wouldn't have minded the inclusion of Ship Missile Expansion if the Ship Missiles weren't just for getting past obstacles. The Ship Grapple also could've had more utilization, too. The only important event it had was building that nuke on Elysia.
@@kidprime6863 Yeah I know hyper mode can kill you but it’s not a problem because you can just keep entering and exiting the mode and you’ll mostly be fine. Obviously the game has a hard mode but iirc you have to unlock it. I beat it on hard mode one time and I remember it was more fun. I wonder if the gunship will do anything in prime 4 but it doesn’t seem like it so far.
@@tvoyager7ive played the prime trilogy upwards of 67 times. All three games in the trilogy, yes. Magmoor isnt a problem as the hub zone, its very quick to get where you want to anywhere except the Phazon Mines basically. Temple Grounds however is a god awful slog to hop between and Aether is more or less structured exactly like the BSL and Bottle Ship except somehow feeling worse, and traversal options that arent "drag your ass across temple grounds for a huge hike" dont open up until the very ass end of the game. fast travel being locked behind the literal last upgrade when traversal is so obnoxiously designed almost feels like a joke at the player's expense sometimes.
The temple grounds are fine. If you know your route, you only need to traverse a third of it to backtrack because everything is in a circle. I'll definitely grant you, on console, travelling between light/dark Aether frequently can be annoying
@@tvoyager7 which is still considerably more than Magmoor, and the Temple Grounds are a much larger and more convoluted area compared to Magmoor, especially in the early game. Magmoor in function tends to be only a handful of very small rooms connecting the different areas whereas trying to get from Sanctuary back to Torvus for the Power Bombs, for example, is the most outright obnoxious backtrack in the entire franchise with no real way to shorten the trek through what is actually a very large area. Magmoor has many different connecting areas and many different very specific spots in each other area that you can be deposited at, especially for easy access to the different zones of Tallon Overworld. A big problem with Prime 2 in particular is that a lot of the "ease of access" shortcuts through the game only open up when you have Power Bombs, whereas Prime 1 gives them to you fairly early on without needing later upgrades than when you can first encounter the need for them like Prime 2 does The only place in Prime 1 that is a headache to access is Phazon Mines, which you only need 2 trips to to 100% that area anyway.
MP3 was great. But, yeah, probably the least great of the three. It would have gone a long way if they would have included a Super Metroid-style beam stacking system for it's upgrades.
Prime 1 layed the foundation for the series to take off in a new direction and blew us all away. Prime 2 followed up a stellar game with fantastic bosses, new powerups, and Dark Samus to menace us throughout the game. Prime 3 left us drooling for Prime 4. To say prime 3 was the weakest defintiely applies, but the gap is very small as far as how much weaker it is.
I would say yes, I couldn't eve ho through the whole thing but stopped when reaching Elysia IIRC. And it's for one thing and one thing alone: the controls. Everyone is praising the Prime 3/Trilogy controls but I just can't stand them, and it made me lose interest because it was just so uncomfortable playing it. I never owned a Wii and haven't tried that many Wii games on my Wii U, and the controls just don't work for me at all. Mario Galaxy 2 is the only he where I've been able to tolerate them, but even then they're the biggest flaw of that game.
I like all of them. I try to 100% all the Metroid games. Prime 2 is the best I can't wait for prime 4 beyond. It's been 18 years since we had a 3d Metroid and no other m wasn't a 3d Metroid. It was mostly 2d with discount Metroid prime and federation force was a spinoff.
Prime 3 is my favorite Metroid game in the series despite me knowing of its flaws. Playing it through primehack on veteran difficulty is probably the best way to play it imo.
I feel like most people that say its weak are too focused on the collective belief of the metroid aesthetics (think super for example: isolation, music, immersion) and don't look at how much it brings to the table. for what corruption does compared to most metroid games that simply plop u down and let u go whist telling the most barebones plot, it should be regarded as one of, if not, the best metroid game to date. Almost 10 years of retro studios grinding and polishing a trilogy. Motion controls that are goated and are considered the best way to play the trilogy, a game that focused on telling a story while also having good gameplay and keeping that familiar metroid feel with its music and visuals. The first one may be my favorite, but to me, prime 3 is the only 10/10 on the metroid list.
Over the course of the Video i got the impression that you are not really qualified to make an accurate assessment because it´s a question for lovers of the series who have played every Prime game at least 10 times but as the video progressed i found your critique valid and fair. Personally i think Prime 3 expanded the canvas of the previous two games. And while it made some good decissions here it made bad ones there. For example Ridley, i think he was utterly wasted in Prime 3. We spent the whole first game building up the Antagonistic rivalry and almost a persona about him and in Prime 3 he just appears like a big enemy but the character is all gone. Even the design looked bad. And then he even returned a second time. That whole implementation wasn´t nearly as cinematic as i would have liked. The talking NPCs and less Isolated feeling was Implemented as well as it could have been because it was well balanced. We still got to be alone in enough places. I remember when Prime 3 came out i was happy about the beginning of the game. I wanted the Prime universe to be expanded a little more, have a big battle and see some more of the Federation and the Pirates actually fighting the war that we only heard about in logbooks before. The Gameplay had many nice features and Motion controlls were superb, if you have played the trilogy on Wii there is almost no reason other than purism or nostalgia to go back to the Gamecube controlls. The Stacking beams was a bad decission for me. Having to adapt the Weapon to the enemy was engaging and a satisfying gameplay loop. Much like changing suit modes in Crysis 1, another example where they lost a great gameplay mechanic in the sequel. I hope we get switching beams back in Prime 4: Beyond. I obviously have a lot to say about the Prime Games. I think i will write a script and churn out my own video now that Prime 4 is on the horizon. I love these games way too much to stay silent. I am glad you enjoyed them all. May the light of the Aether guide you.
lacking action with the ship green tokens were not possible to get in story mode hyper mode is a double edge sword the backtracking is ass stacking beams stubborn welding useless power ups ugly suit the phazon beam sucks the bosses are a serious pain, garbage fights, attacks and damage
Honestly, Prime 2 was my least favorite, it felt really tedious for me, Prime 1 is my favorite and Prime 3 is my second. The more linear and story focused reminded me of Fusion, which I already loved.
1. Echoes 2. Prime 3. Corruption Corruption was a great game but it had its flaws. Only reason corruption is worst in series is because of how insanely good the previous 2 titles were.
I think the reason it tells you where to go isn't just because of it being on the Wii, but also because of the traveling between planets. Since you have to sit through essentially long loading screens, backtracking would be a lot more annoying if the game didn't say what planet you need to visit. I wish it would have been more vague though.
imo echoes is the worst. two whole ass maps to keep track of trying to find my way quickly went from fun and new to aggrevatingly difficult and a nuisance. Finished it last year, tried it again recently and it still feels off for me because of that. drained the game of its enjoyment for me. Prime 3 was okay imo. not great, but at least enjoyable. However, the sense of isolation wasn't there anymore at all imo and it was way too short. Those are my biggest points of critique for it
Prime 3 definitely has some moments it does very well but I feel like it's overall the weakest. Prime 1 and 2 have certain magic about the atmosphere that Prime 3 can't quite measure up to.
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Nah, MP3 is pretty good at worst. It even does something a little different than MP and MP2, with other bounty hunters and planets to meet and see. While I wouldn't say MP3 is my favorite of the bunch, it's not slouching either.
This is a really unpopular opinion but I actually think prime 1 is the worst. Don't get me wrong I still really like prime 1 of course, but in my opinion the subsequent sequels did everything prime 1 did but expanded, refined, and more original than prime 1
Prime 3 failed in the following regards: - It tried too much to emulate Halo and had too many linear sections and was driven by story instead of exploration. - The overreliance of phazon as a gameplay gimmick along with the PED suit. I feel like combat was a boring slog with underpowered weapons if you didnt activate phazon mode, and it was too easy and you were super OP if you did activate phazon mode. Phazon mode just became the quick answer to everything and it got old having to activate it and manage your health. - The overabundance of phazon themed variants of already obtained abilities as powerups. Phazon grapple, Phazon missles, Phazon morph ball, Phazon everything. It made getting upgrades feel like you got cheated sometimes, especially when they could only be used for very niche situations. - Getting in your ship and going to other locations constantly was very tedious and the ship command visor was too gimmicky. - The lock opening motion control gimmicks were so stupid and didn't work well half the time.
Agreed. Even when you lay it on Primehack with the controls fixed, the structure of the game is just a let down. Fingers crossed MP4 does not go this route and sticks to explore 1 or 2 max massive areas.
This is probably blasphemy but I honestly think prime 1 is the worst of the series, still one of the best games of all time I just think it’s sequels are much better
Agreed. Nobody says this, because Prime 1 started it all. Prime 2 has more grounded visuals overall, but its locations are much more unique. Prime 3's beam stacking is more condusive to combat and exploration. I'm tired of having to switch beams 5 times just to walk down a hallway in the first two games, but especially Prime 1. There's much more I could say on this
@@tvoyager7 I like 2 and 3 because the backtracking is mostly localized to the current area you are in so it saves time while still being a puzzle you have you have to solve, my frustration with prime 1 is how you might have figured out where you need to use your new “key” but now you have to waste 10min walking there, i like backtracking but there’s a limit. Also I actually prefer the prime 1 and 2 beam swapping, I think it’s fun how samus is a slow tank opposed to seemingly every other shooter having you be a highly mobile character
Prime 2 is the worst in my opinion. It's painful to get through because of that stupid dark world gimmick. It's not fun. The boss fights are way better than the ones from the first game, but... that's about all Echoes has going for it. The first game was exceptional in its exploration-based gameplay.
I would have to say 3 is indeed my least favorite but I still enjoyed it nonetheless. 2 is the best in my opinion. It’s challenging but it’s vast amount of content is incredible. I would die for a remastered Prime 2 the same way they did with the first
