@@ared4824The JP side is already pretty clear on rating Morgan higher than Arjuna Alter for over a year now It's mainly the Western fans who are still arguing about it
it's gonna be like those playground arguments where one kid goes "I am infinity power!" while the other kid goes "well, I'm infinity power... +1!". it'll be two childish sides in a never ending, meaningless argument lol
Me who have both: "I don't see any problem here. Just use both-" Morgan: "Dear, burn him. Now. Also burn all of your other Berserkers too. You don't need anyone other than me." Me looking at my Raikou, Xiang Yu, grailed Kiyohime, and a complete collection of 4* and lower Berserkers: "...This is bad..."
Zerker fans unite The hearts want what the heart wants I’m hoping to get that lucky single with her . I literally go muramasa the LAST DAY on a single with a rainbow …it was meant to me Please come home Morgan
If you burn *RAIKOU* so help me my account will find yours and we’re gonna have to have a chat…. (Side note: you grailed Kiyohime? You love her that much???
why are you talking about morgan and arjuna alter when there is the MIGHTY ERIC THE BLOODAXE that can 3-turnn loop with command seals. freaking SSR lickers, ffs
Short answer : No she's not. I've had both in JP for a while and Arjuna's damage is WAY better it's not even close. Some might say she's better because she only needs Koyan to loop not knowing her damage will be WAY TOO LOW for the 3rd wave in most high level nodes if her only support is Koyan.
Depends. Her damage will be fine as long as she hits her niche, but it's unreliable compared to Arjuna (who's basically always hitting his niche). That being said, if it's for CQ, Morgan all the way. Arjuna is really bad at dealing with the various gimmicks they tend to throw around = especially if they involve slowing down = and if the enemy is debuff immune (which is becoming alarmingly common), he's not going to have a fun time.
@@Talyrion that's happened to Morgan,too. She has curse stack on her NP,the boss has debuff immunity against her curse stack more than his debuff bister resistance down
@@Rosemaryalter2711 without koyanskaya arjuna can't even loop lmao, in fact arjuna can't loop without oberon and can't loop without starting gauge CE. The invinvinble team, castoria, merlin and morgan doesn't even need koyan lmao Keep huffing that copium champ The truth is that you're a simp(leton) now stop spamming the comments and take your schizo pills
I kept this playing in the background as a catalyst while I rolled on Morgan... I hit pity to get her, and only got one copy of Gawain and none of Tristan on the way there rate-up is a lie 😭
Man, that's some really bad luck. I myself couldn't get any servants i wanted for 1 year and Morgan still took around 350~400 worth SQ. Hope you, myself and everyone good luck on our future rolls!
Shoutout to using Morgan _with_ Arjuna Alter because her Charisma provides a bonus aoe debuff for AA's Anti-Evil, her skills have some NP gain/ charging for the team, and her cards fit with his to allow for both Arts & Buster chains. It's silly but it's funny that they vaguely fit together.
From my experience, in general use Arjuna Alter outperforms Morgan most of the time in a optimal buster setup (KoL and Oberon), but morgan has more flexibility due to having more np battery. In 90++ notes there's no contest Arjuna completely eclypses morgan by large margin.
I feel like comparing them is pointless since if you compare farming either one with double vitch and oberon will probably torch the wave, what I think is worth comparing is what each can do outside of farming, If all you need is damage for a quest then Arjuna is safe and reliable, however in extended fights Morgan can be paired with either merlin and castoria to form a team that can be unkillable unless you run into buff cleansing, Morgan can also be used as a secondary dps/support while Arjuna is a selfish servant but I don't mind a selfish dps, a huge point in Morgan's favour is the sheer amount of banners she has meaning it's easier to get more copies for her while Arjuna doesn't go on rate up very often. In short if you are chasing a Farmer Arjuna is safe reliable and will do what he says on the tin, Morgan may need np2 and fous to compete on damage, but for literally any challenge content or lostbelt content the fact she can form a borderline unbreakable team while dishing out aoe damage is invaluable.
I have an NP2 Arjuna Alter grailed to level 100 and his stats are at +1500. So I think I am invested in him. But I am sure there will be many Morgan enjoyers with np4-5 and grailed to 120
I myself as you can see from my profile am the AA fan for this one, literally carried my through everything after i got him during his first banner with lb4, during that time pulled merlin, castoria and himiko and that has been my main bosskiller/CQ party, and i recently got him to np3 by lucksacking the rolls and have him at both append 1 and 2, as well as lvl 110 2k fous and fou paws maxed on his buster cards for now. Iv been able to complete all the CQs and i think everything after thats going to be easy aswell, morgan for me wouldn’t have been that strong, if you have the supports any servant can survive and flourish in a tough battle, the added damage AA gives just puts him higher tier for me, but thats just me and my opinion and my build with the guy.
I am an NA only player and I own both Arjuna and Morgan now, I must say that some of the JP community's opinion on Morgan is exaggerated as if Arjuna Alter is inferior to Mommy Morgan. I could be wrong tho, maybe she does work better in 90++ nodes and buster looping but AA damage is just stupidly high with that BBB Deck.
Yeah she is better for CQs because of the survivability she gets from her synergy with Castoria and Merlin so yeah she is a great P2W servant. As a F2P I'd rather get 2 different SSR's than roll for higher NP copies so I would never benefit from her overcharge for characters like Castoria. I think that is important to take into consideration. Meanwhile I Arjuna Alter and his NP slaps... However what slapped ME even more is his Buster face card's crits... That man hit soooo hard it's unbelievable. Too bad his 3rd skill is extremely bad... I'd rather have invul for one turn that a simple guts.
I think arjuna alter is better because a lot of farming nodes don't have her attributes that give her damage while arjuna just comes in regardless of the damage and sweeps and can do his damage regardless of condition but Morgan is comparable when she has her attributes up
if both are on high np morgan is way better than arjuna alter.. it fix the only demerit which i'd say she sorely lacking as compared to arjuna alter in hard content.. to be fair with that problem fix i don't see how arjuna alter better than her.. than again it's whale comp so it's a form of demerit for sure
@@kayyam9959 having both trait is kinda rare for servant. Idk if knight mobs in lb6 count. Most times, Arjuna Alter will have better dmg ceiling. Morgan advantage in farming is more about her bigger battery though & additional supportive kit. Overall Morgan is better servant, except in general dmg ceiling. This hasn't change since 2 years ago in JP.
@@arahaitham123 yes that's why i'm saying on high np.. overdamage is of not much point anymore so morgan took the edge rather than arjuna(overdamage is good if you are arts looper.. for buster overdmg is of no use tbh).. and for harder content morgan clearly took the edge even more especially if you can't debuff the enemy.. overall both are very good.. but if i can be honest.. on high np i prefer morgan over arjuna since she can do what he can but he can't do what she can
@@kayyam9959 I don't think overdamage is a thing anymore. They could just made another boss like ORT again, but suit for zerk. Lv 90++ farming node is a thing too. I am not surprised if they made 90+++ node one day. The real question is how much we will to spend. Do we think NP2 or NP5 worth the spend or not.
@@arahaitham123 future stuff is future stuff.. so far it's not there yet even now there's update to further buff servant dmg on jp and what ur thinking is still not there yet.. so OD on damage is not a thing unless for showing off purpose.. i mean higher digit looks cool but that's all.. tbh np 2-5 it's necessary for 90++ and is worth it but only for a long living farming char/ probably for the waifu you like the most(every ppl play for diff reason).. and you can further up the servant to 120 and there's also a possibility to go beyond
I have both of them at np2, lv100 gold foud, 2nd append skill maxed on JP server. I pretty much use them exchangably depending of the enemy and which one is closer to getting bond sq. Whoever you decide to go for of the 2 will be a good choice, so get the one you like more.
Short answer: they're both crazy good that they redefine buster meta. Long answer: in farming, they are somewhat interchangeable, but Godjuna takes the cake. In CQ, Morgan excels a lot, especially in stall team, due to her NP OC for Castoria and Merlin. You can use Godjuna, sure, but it is a bit more difficult to use in a stall team. In min-turn CQ, Godjuna is your go to, but min-turn CQ is more for the whales out there (1% of the FGO playerbase). Do note that: - Koyan Light and Oberon is more important to pull for farming (less important for CQ, but viable nevertheless). - Not to mention that Morgan banner is A LOT (DW then, Lasengle now REALLY loves Morgan). - Finally, if you don't have Castoria yet, she is a must pull, no matter what. So plan your wallet-kun better.
Generally speaking, a fast and hard approach to CQs is preferable for everyone. Anyone with a copy of the necessary supports can min-turn (maybe needing 1 extra turn due to rng) most CQs. Because they are META having Castoria, Tamamo, Merlin, Waver, Reines, or Skadi is not a whale thing, many have 2-3 of them. A card type support eg. Casoria or Skadi + friends card type support unit + viable DPS + charge support for more charge or to be safe like Waver or Reines = min-turn (give or take) every CQ.
Best breakdown here. Came back to the game after 4 years of not playing in February. I had 500 SQ and skipped almost everything waiting for Castoria, Koyan and Oberon. I got 1285 SQ and 63 tickets for the support trio. I did roll for the Godjuna "bait" banner and the Amakusa banner back in February and I got hella lucky cuz I got 1 copy of each in about 30 tickets each.
arjuna more damage, morgan more utility that's all, also a lot of the comments acting like aa can't just max append and get a 50% battery and 3t comfortably with a plugsuit support or oberon
Completely agree specially regarding cq situations. Godjuna often blows up when i use him in cq which usually a second dps is required. Summer Musashi surprisingly last longer in CQs but maybe thats because of Castoria. However, im still going to pass until i get Vitch and Oberon first.
I prefer Morgan overall for team synergy and double core. Just super satisfying in general but AA is the more brain dead servant from pure farm standpoint.
I'd say that Morgan slightly edges out Arjuna Alter because (assuming u don't have maxed append 2 on any of them) she isn't limited to k-scope so she has more variety in her choices of ces. So in terms of 3-turn farming They are equal (Arjuna may be slightly better). However, Morgan floors Arjuna when it comes to cqs. She is a core member of the immortal team which there are 3 version of and she's used in 2 of them.
Always Favs/Waifus/Husbandos > Meta. Have AA already (fav beserker) and I dont care much for meta nor 3T farming. If I get Morgan too, then great, more team I can switch up it from time to time for diff play.
I also chose both. I have Arjuna NP 2 and Morgan NP 1, and they are fantastic. Can't wait for Oberon / KS to come out on NA, so that I can do some serious farming with them.
What mainly let’s me prefer Morgan over Arjuna Alter is not only the difference in battery charge skills, but their deck as well. Although Morgan is not able to do a BBB brave chain with face cards, her deck is more safe and allows easy np gain. Along with her arts passive skill and np gain active skill, she can pair up with Castoria who can charge her np, and keep her alive. Honestly, I’m someone that likes her berserkers to be stacked while safe at the same time.
@@muratticugaratti1571 that man's buster cards SLAP and my Chaldea has basically no supports. When I get him to crit with a buster card that has burn (for the debuff damage) on it, it'll most of the time annihilate the opponent... Don't even get me started on his Buster chain...
Eh we spend a lot more time farming than running CQs, and they're not really comparable in farming. Man trait is common, but it's still less than half the roster, and you need at around 2 NP levels more on Morgan for her to compete with Arjuna. Even in CQs, if your account is cracked enough, then Arjuna Alter probably allows you to clear even the harder CQs more quickly than Morgan. I'd say they are at least equal
My best solution for that that im having an np5 level 120 morgan😮 And also if thats not cut it then i have np2 godjuna khm😅- which is stronger than np5 morgan without her man power mod which is funny- but its cus everybody handles godjunas powermod as a built in always on feature.
Well imo all these supposed op characters only truly shine if you have the right supports around them ie castoria or merlin or really any of the top tier supports which dont have banners very often.
i have np2 arjuna alter and still np5ed morgan and no regrets. I know for buster farming arjuna alter is better but he is male so i dont care too much about him and morgan has the role in invincible teams so for that i will use her all the time.
@@muratticugaratti1571 has 1700 sq now. Np5 morgan cost me 800quarts. Arjuna np2 cost me 120 quarts i think. I bought 1 pack every month to gain this much sq but this might be the last time i invest so much or any money into fgo other than gssr.
Spent 1100 quartz, but it was worth it. NP 3 Morgan, NP 5 Barghest (my waifu), and NP 4 Baoban Sith. Been saving actual money for two whole years so i can also at least NP 2 Melusine when she drops.
Arjuna has more damage but Morgan outshines him in everything else (and her damage is still good, just not broken) so imo she's better than him in most aspects and she's much more flexible which is a huge point in her favor. Arjuna's damage can be handy in certain 90++ nodes but honestly as long as you like a decent servant and you are willing to build it properly, they'll be able to clear pretty much everything in the game so i value Morgan's flexibility much more than a bit more damage output. The unkillable team is also a thing so there is also that in her favor
@@muratticugaratti1571 you're not wrong it's pretty unlikely his buster debuff will be resisted but I do think that a lot of people are underestimating Morgan's damage output without her niche. It's not Arjuna alter levels sure buts it's still quite respectable.
@@squishie9714 100% agreed. Certainly its not bad Arjuna is a freak when it comes to damage she doesnt exactly have to compete with him when it comes to that
If you need lots of dmg and dmg only, AA is the pick. That includes farming 90++ nodes especially. Man attribute is given by Koyan to AA too, if it matters. So its only really if fae or round table is there. In challenge quests however, pure dmg is not always the name of the game and you sometimes want or need more utility - or the boss has debuff immunity, hampering AAs dmg massively. Then Morgan is better due to her NP overcharging Castoria and others (unkillable comp). Its not like Morgan cant farm most stuff too though. So from a flexibility side, Morgan wins in my book. Pure dmg and AA wins. Simple. For me, I chose Morgan. But my account is stacked anyways and she is waifu :>
i have both but create new acc... i start this acc when arjuna alter rerun only 1 weeks left... while old acc... like damn random 5 ssr from story summon came out and i totally give up on this acc tho
Im both using Morgan and Godjuna in FGO NA and for me both are great, though for me, Godjuna is way stronger damage wise, but if you want utility, Morgan is better
I didn’t roll for Morgan because I managed to get AA to NP2 on his recent banner, so any rationalization for using her as a farmer at NP1 went out the window for me there (and also because I have Spishtar NP3 and plenty of strong buster farmers in waiting), and I’m not really wanting for strong CQ servants since I already have many of the better ones that I would rather use over her. She’s for sure the better do-it-all servant between the two though, so she’s gonna be the better choice for a lot of people.
I tend to prefer Morgan since she's more flexible. If you're planning on building a 3 turn buster team but are unsure if you're going to have enough to secure both Koyanskya and Oberon and you have to chose one or the other, Morgan+2x Koyanskya+any 50% battery support allows Morgan to 3 turn while Arjuna needs a 70% battery at the end to get him there. I can't argue the power of Oberon, but I dislike his character so, on JP I generally only use him with Melusine since she can 3T with BG or on CQs where I need that extra damage to clear the node.
Is this a common misconception that Junao needs a 70% battery/Oberon to 3 turn farm? Because he sure as hell don’t? You can comfortably 3 turn farm with Junao without needing Oberon aside from CQs and 90++ nodes where you need a fatter copy anyways without relying on Crits. All that aside I do agree that Morgan is far less restrictive due to that 50% battery.
@@Mitsuru-Miki Arjuna needs a MLBed Kscope or Kscope with Max Append to farm with any 50% Charger. And even with Oberon, he still need his Append 2 Unlock, otherwise, he's Short 20% Charge at the 3rd Wave
@@ShiraFuyu2022 yes this is common knowledge? This argument can be stretch across every 30% np battery farmers in the game… My point still stands. He doesn’t need Oberon/70% to farm.
Pitied for Morgan because ... she's Morgan. As for who's better, it doesn't really matter too much as they both achieve the same thing. Arjuna gets better burst damage NP1, but Morgan is the overall better farmer for having the 50% battery. It really depends on their application. It's unfortunate that Raikou has been severely outclassed due to the inevitable power creep, but hey I still use her.
Had 27 tickets got Morgan at NP1 with 8 tickets but my dumb greedy ass wanted np2 ,spent all my tickets and 2 30 roll summon. sadly I didn’t get another copy but I atleast got all the other knights at np2 so it wasn’t a complete waste I still have most of my SQ I wasn’t that dumb and greedy I just need to stack tickets again.
@Exucalibur she's the best arts dps farmer/Beserker it'd make for an interesting video no one is saying she'd do more dmg of course buster does the most dmg
I have both of them NP1 (I got baited by Junao for some reason, he’s not my favorite or anything, Morgan is meanwhile) and Morgan is already a lot more invested based on my current resource spread. I anticipate I’ll be using her a lot more for general stuff, while Junao is more a trophy who will come out for bosskilling. Glad I’ll get to use both of them whenever I want though.
I have both now so I don’t have to choose. Not that it matters for the next month as arts is still on top with my np 2 castoria and muramasa so neither will get much play time until I hopefully pull koyanskaya
Berserker in CQ. I feel like "if" i have all support needed they are the same, otherwise i would never use berserker in CQ. but i feel like most of the time in jp i would go for Morgan due to star bomb to clear last wave since i don't have any support other than Waver. Star bomb is great.
I love both (AA a lil bit more cuz of design) so it doesn’t hurt to have 2 dummy strong servants goin crazy on the battlefield at the end of the day it’s all based on preference plus I have both grailed
@@ucmanhvuong4301 yes,he can and unlike Melusine or Morgan need high NP,BG MLB and more support to be good,lol I'm pretty sure Melusine need even more CE even damage than him because she deal less damage than Romulus a lot Buster 3 decks is more F2P than buster 2 decks from beginning because they even rely on Oberon
@@Rosemaryalter2711 oh nvm it's a 2 core comp. Ofc AA cant 3 turn on his own. That said Morgan is much better for 2 core since she's actually boosting the team as well. Tho I will admit that her dmg can be pretty lacking at NP1-2. Also Meluko doing less dmg than Romulus is when he got them stacks on him. Without that (since we are farming hello), his dmg for the last wave aint gonna be too impressive where as Meluko keeps stacking her own buster up. Pls stop the hate train, I recognize you even with the PFP change lol. (I werent even discussing lancer class lol)
@@ucmanhvuong4301 When I tell the truth, you think I'm hater, are you a hypocrite? Yeah,Melusine NP5 is the better Lancer farming than Romulus but in Challenge quest she need Oberon to support,meanwhile Romulus just need Boudica & Constantine And Morgan in latest node can't 6 CE and i used Arash farm the first turn and Junao farm the second 2 with 6 CE by NP2 and that's multicore,right? If they can't deal more damage with cheaper support & low NP,it's not F2P
I had to spend literally a year Worth of SQs to get Morgan, i also got Anastasia, Napoleon, np2 bargest and np6 baobah sith. I'll gonna have to rely on luck to get koyanskaya. And seeing how it's going i won't get her.
I’ve been able to get one copy of Morgan and Barghest in relatively low rolls (about 15 tickets and 90 SQs). Really don’t want to ouch my luck so I’ll be saving till Koyan and Oberon come out. After that if I have extra I’ll maybe try to get NP2 of Morgan
I only play JP and when this topic comes up i always see people say Arjuna alter has way more damage than her. Strictly farming wise if Morgan isn't hitting her Man attribute Arjuna alter dog walks her. Although Morgan has a better CQ deck id say she provides A LOT
Arjuna is better he just needs 1 more grail for his gauge skill to loop. Also does more damage. I also kinda got him. Np 3. 2 on first banner in 120 then last month I wanted valk np 2 and he came in first multi. So until Tiamat drops he’s my best looper. I did get bored of using him a bit last year though so decided to use other servants
Ye I’m sry but anyone saying morgan is comparable to arjuna in farming is hard coping man atr is like 1/3 of servants compared to literally all with arjunas self made mod and I like how u conveniently didn’t mention the def debuff on morgan being able to whiff too same with the buster down and even then it’s not likely to whiff for either one and like u said u can always stun if need For challenge mode I agree morgan is 100% better in most situations but the invincible comp has better variants that don’t require morgan imo and you can always borrow someone else’s morgan for that but not for farming where u NEED 2 koyans
I would have to say that the 30% battery is a fairly large detriment for Arjuna for farming. If you don't have Oberon no amount of CE's or append skills will make him loop. Sure if you manage to get both Koyan and Oberon it's a mute point but I believe that the amount of resources you need to put be able to compare one unit to another is very important, especially if those resources are neither cheap nor easy to obtain.
As someone that likes to use fga to auto farm sometime at night, personally I don't like the idea of missing the debuff and having the run potential ruin.
As someone who has a np3 Arjuna alter, i can say my non existant Morgan falls by alot. But jokes out of the way, Arjuna in terms of dmg is better, but Morgan shines in utility, Morgan can do some supporting and Arjuna can deletes enemies with a comically large sword.
I mean... if BOTH get the SAME end results who actually cares? They both get the job done with the same supports. A bazillion more damage doesn't change the fact that Morgan does the job, and lesser battery doesn't change the fact Arjuna also does the job. This is why I hate meta. Just use whatever the hell you want as long as it does the freaking job. "Arjuna is better, you should have summoned for him instead" shut up. Just be happy with what you have and let others be happy with their fairy queens.
Just sharing. No Morgan this go round but I DID manage to pull NP3 Baobhan Sith and NP2 Barghest. Also finally got OG Saber ! Funny thing is, all copies, with the one exception of Saber were ALL SPOOKS 😂
Eh even if one is better then the other the way u choose if u wanna draw is if u have Arjuna alter u don’t need to get Morgan if u have Morgan then u don’t need Arjuna alter unless u go unga bunga I love ‘em both to death and I got fat amounts of sq so I’m getting both to np 5 lvl 120 10/10/10
For hard bosses there is almost always Continue which costs between 3 CS and a third of the SQ you need for a single pull. So imho Morgan is mainly for those who love her a lot (which is many players)and for those who do not have AA or hate using Continues.
DUDE i got Morgan on the 3rd single ticket and manage to get another Morgan for NP2 with Giant knight girl Tam Lin Gawain both on the 2nd multi (20 tickets and 60 SQ used) what luck!!! and now i can focus on saving the rest for Oberon and Vitch. Is np2 Morgan better than np1 arjuna alter? I managed to get him by luck on the 1st multi on the recent Arjuna alter banner.
I had a friend who played JP and he had NP2 Arjuna and NP5 Morgan. Arjuna's NP was still stronger. Tho Morgan could outdamage him from time to time if she hits her right niches. Can't say a lot abt her myself since I play NA and only have Arjuna NP1.
I´m Conflicted. I got her on NP1 and then saved for Oberon and Koyanskaya. Now I have Morgan, Arjuna, and moth and rabbit and still have 300 sq left and she is making a return. To be honest, so far I´ver been fairly disappointed with her cause her mods more often than not do not activate and on NP1 Arjuna consistently outpeeforms her a lot. I am wondering wether going for NP2 is worth it or if I should rather save my SQ and maybe gor for Arjuna NP2 in March next year.... I also want Douman NP2 who´ll come with summer......
ye i used np1 arjuna alter for quite some time and only on his recent banner i got copies for np4. I tested np1 with koyan w/o activating np4 tho i also tested morgan. And even with those powermods idk and koyan gives them to him too + he can use first skill 2 times. I couldnt test both of them with oberon at np1 couse i activated arjunas np 4 but it feels like he got more of a bust from him than morgan since he can now use aerial drive where morgan could do it before. Overall both units are amazing but imo Arjuna is just better and more consistent
As someone who has NP5 Morgan (Level 94 no gold fous) and NP3 Arjuna (Level 100 and 2k/2k fous) using a double koyanskaya and Oberon setup with aerial drive CE. I’m consistently seeing Arjuna doing 50% more damage than Morgan. Even when Morgan’s damage mods line up she’s not out performing Arjuna in pure damage numbers. If you’re looking for big numbers than Arjuna is probably the better bet but for longer fights Morgan is probably a better choice.
@@Dignified_Student I've now NP2 my Morgan because in challenge quests she works well with castoria and Merlin and she is also a lot faster than himiko cause she is less dependent on cradtypes matching up at the right time. For farming I'll probably try to NP2 Arjuna as well since he is more consistent on high damage and for 90++ nodes he'll be useful. I don't really need anyother servant this year except douman to NP2 him so I'll have time to stock up on SQ till then.
