Is Netflix Doing Damage to Stargate's Brand? (Clip) 

Just another example of how the ones running the business are less informed than the fan base 😖

What’s strange with Netflix, is that they have original Showtime aired episodes and tv syndicate episodes running, you can definitely see the commercial pauses in some episodes and the quality is terrible…

Brand damage? No. However I do agree that streaming services do need to have each episode rated accordingly and not a one stop shop rating. It's a tv show not a movie.

I wholeheartedly agree with the problematic TV-MA Rating for Stargate SG-1 on Netflix. A TON of new potential fans are totally unaware of what the SG-1 series actually is due to this rating. People still pay attention to ratings, especially those with younger audience members (young kids and older youth such as pre-teens). A TV-MA rating is not indicative of a family friendly TV series such as 90’s shows like Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman. Parents/Families are most likely turning away from SG-1 due to this inaccurate rating on the series as a whole. I watched SG-1 as a young child with my parents. My mother introduced me to Stargate at quite a young age. SG-1 and SG Atlantis ARE family friendly series in my opinion. A parent/guardian is recommended to accommodate younger child while watching but not totally needed as I often watched the series alone when I was 8-9+ years old. Netflix currently has over 208 million paid subscribers and surely MANY more than that who have access to Netflix accounts. I am really disappointed with Netflix for at the very least not addressing this ratings issue and ultimately fixing it by putting a different cut of the pilot episode in their library.

To be honest that Stargate "Prequel" FanFilm MGM made was the *worst* thing to happen to Stargate in years.

In Canada, there are no Stargate series available on Netflix. And on Amazon Prime, Stargate episodes cost $$$.

FYI … This is old content… it’s not on Amazon Prime anymore. I think this was recorded earlier this year.

I'm hoping Stargate will return to Amazon Prime Video soon. It's showing up as Unavailable in my area. Texas.

None of the episodes are available on Prime Video. Just went there, they are listed but not available for play. WTF.

Back when SG-1 first aired on Showtime, I was still using TV antennae and didn't have access to cable. It wasn't until years later when I saw it on Sci-Fi. I think I started on season 6 and had to watch 1-5 at a later date. The pilot episode I watched did not have nudity and not being exposed to that it was always a family show to me. My kids love it and it's something we can all watch together. Universe was a bit dark and more for mature audiences IMO. I loved the cast of Universe but it didn't feel like Stargate. I really want the fourth series to be more like SG-1 and Atlantis.

The american sensibilitites just don't make sense to me. "Oh god, there's skin, that's totally unnatural. Let's kill some people instead, so the children have something to watch"... makes me wonder if mirrors are banned in America so people can't see themselves after they shower. It's an episode showing rape (what else would I call what the Goa'ould do) and that's okay for kids to watch but only if there's no skin visible? It seems you have Stargate on three streaming services, which is three more than we have in Germany, so it's difficult to me to understand why the narrative is framed as "one of the three uses a version of one (!) episode you don't like", instead of how it should be available in other markets as well so the audience is built up.

But it is intended for general audiences, including those with grade school kids. Using the M nudity to recruit would be even more misleading than the generic rating because it will recruit an audience who will be disappointed and complain which may be a worse business situation than unintentionally pushing away an audience who would enjoy it.

Yeah I am one to stray away from nudity and almost didn't watch SG1 because of the Netflix rating. But I remember as a kid when SG1 was still on TV that is was basically PG13 from the very few episodes I watched and just decided now years later to just go ahead and watch through the pilot and I am super glad I did.

I don’t understand why so many people in America are against nudity and why nudity has to equal anti-family in their mind. As someone who watched SG-1 from the beginning on Showtime, I always liked that about Children of the gods and hoped there would be more in the show. Made the show a bit more realistic. In fact it’s generally surprising that SG-1 hasn’t come across any nudist tribes or colonies in their adventures, we have several here just on earth. That said, I understand the outrage here since the entire show is being rated based just on the first episode. That is some lazy programming.

Is there a way to contact Netflix about this? clearly, every single episode past CotG would technically be PG-13. There's very little blood and foul language in the entire series. Really, the only thing that makes it a PG-13 title is the combat. Well, i did my part (at least what i could). Left a tweet to Netflix about this issue and tagged y'all, Brad, Amazon, and Bezos. I'm hoping it will play some form of part in fixing this before (Again, hopefully) Amazon decides SG is worth continuing.

When I started watching SG1 again on Netflix I also noticed the TV-MA on all the episodes, which like you disappointed me from wanting it to attract new viewers. Unfortunately the nudity is in the pilot which most would start watching, however since it does come towards the end it may have a chance

What gets me is that Netflix shows TV-MA, but when the episode starts you see the TV-PG sticker from the original airing.

Do people actually use the ratings?

MGM at this point has zero clue what they doing with marketing! 🙄🤦🏻‍♂️ They might as well hang a sign that says DO NOT WATCH THIS!

Don't underestimate Netflix. If they're interested in doing the fourth Stargate live action series, they probably want it to be TV-MA. My cynical side tells me that slapping that label on the entire series is an effort to see what demand for that is possible.

I agree with you ! One of the most important thing about Stargate, explaining its success, was that it was a "family" science fiction show aired on the most watched times of the biggest channels. Rating it like this kinda change its original format

I never even pay attention to rating when choosing something to watch

I seriously don't understand what the fuss is about, I have never ever cared what the ratings of movies and shows are ever so long as it's a good captivating story. Am I alone?

Star Trek is rated PG for "fear". Who the hell is getting scared watching Star Trek

Like it when you two guys make videos together. Great job once again, guys.

As of right now Amazon says “Video unavailable “ for all stargate titles

I'd rather have the original version of the pilot tbh. The final cut removed more than was necessary. Particularly the setup for the next episode. If you are watching the show for the first time, the final cut is a problem. I'd personally go for the original syndication/syfy cut.

This is exactly what happened when I tried to show a family friend Stargate. I recommended it to them and then the first episode on Netflix turned them off from the entire series. It's such a great series that is generally family-friendly and it's a shame that Netflix had to slap a TV-MA label on it (and use that version of the first episode)

You knows whose ACTUALLY damaging the Stargate brand? Stargate. I mean why on Earth would you quit SGU in only the 2nd season? That show was just getting going. It was one of the most interesting and compelling stories I've ever watched.

I'd love to watch it "upscaled" here in the UK but no-one's showing it; as far as I know. (At least, not "free", or included a subscription as far as I know.)

I really think this is only talked about by Stargate fans and no one else. Stargate fans aren't going to stop watching it. This is an old show and I really don't think that Nudity rating is stopping 10's of thousands of people from watching it. With that said, In my experience when I ask someone if they have watched Stargate SG1 they usually, 1, say they have never heard of it, 2, say they remember some movie a long time ago called Stargate and either saw it or didn't, 3, say they watch it or have watched it. I have never heard someone say they came across it on Netflix and saw the Nudity rating so they didn't watch it. That is just my experience. It would be interesting to hear if someone has actually talked to someone that didn't watch it because of that rating. I am sure if they did they would tell the person that is just the first episode, on some streaming sites. I love Stargate and encourage anyone that is a SciFi fan to watch it. I just personally don't think this rating is really hurting anything with this old franchise.

I think keeping the shot of Sha’re from shoulders on up is definitely important to the drama of cotg’s. The scene shows how they have no regard for the host and inspect it like a new car.

Hopefully there is a cross section that don't really heed the ratings much anymore because half the time the ratings are bunk, well, for exactly this kind of reason. Amongst others. I rarely look at the ratings but see the show myself to decide if it can be seen by kids I am responsible for, or not.

I'm in the Midwest US and Stargate is no longer available to watch on Amazon Prime

This is why I can't wait for Amazon to own the rights to Stargate.

No Stargate is available in Prime video or Netflix for Australia. Our 'Stan' streaming service has the rights to Stargate - with the nudity pilot - with the series rated M.

This would not be a problem if the US was not so prude. Almost any European show has nudity, and what? It shocks me how guns are acceptable but boobs or butts not

I've seen shows on Netflix with questionable content on the kid's list in the past. I'd rather they err on the side of caution in this case than have my children potentially exposed to inappropriate content. It's also why I don't let my kids watch shows by themselves, even shows like Stargate. It also reminds me before I watch that first episode that there's one scene I need to watch for. Rating a show by the "worst" episode is, in my opinion, a necessary evil. I mean, Lucifer has the same warning before each episode (noting suicide and drug use and partial nudity) even though not every episode has those themes.

The Stargate series has actually been removed from Amazon Prime in the US, so now it’s between Hulu and Netflix or the Blu-Ray’s

Well let’s be honest only the real OG fans who actually grew up watching this still watch it till this day. Yes I am on season six episode five on Netflix. And I’ve watched it three times on Hulu. I just want them to put out something new.

I really don't see the rating being an issue at all. I know 3 people, 2 not into sci-fi that ended up watching the series because it was on Amazon Prime. They said it was okay but it looked dated. They all said they almost stopped watching because the 1st season was hit or miss. They all thought it's last two seasons were great and wanted more. One woman REALLY liked Ben Browder lol

So thye have the most complete version with no censorship and we're complaining? Why?

and thats why i got rid of netflix cuties was for kids and stargate was only for adults

People actually pay attention to the TV-MA rating? lol, Honestly I doubt that anyone really does.

I had noticed the widescreen difference between Amazon vs Netflix when I watched it a few months ago. Missed that it was upscaled. Also missed or ignored the TV-MA rating, but did notice the nudity when I started watching it on Netflix. Switched to prime video after a few episodes when I noticed they had widescreen.

According to amazon prime "This video is currently unavailable to watch in your location"

It’s funny when they show the TV copies (the earlier seasons) and they have a TV PG rating on screen. I hope by now people can see that the MA does not represent the entire series.

In Australia it's on a a streaming platform called Stan and it's rated M for Mature Audiences.

In the Netherlands we do not have SG on Netflix yet…

Didn't Amazon buy MGM?

Here in the UK we have never seen the original (ie with nudity) version. Of course, we all know it didn't need it but that's not the point!

How ridiculous only that pilot should be MA for nudity. Now if we are talking violence... The dang nudity was never needed and I was kind of surprised/bamboozled by it having been in the episode to begin with. I was a bit shocked when I saw it when I watched it that very first time.

Um, something is wrong with my Prime Video because it says unavailable to all Stargate content 😔

Is Stargate available for Netflix Canada? The libraries are different for each region of Netflix domain.

Stargate is not avaible on Amazon Prime free or for a fee in the US. It says on Amazon as of 14 July 2021; "This video is currently unavailable" This is for all seasons.

SG-1 was taken off of Amazon towards the ending of 2020, Netflix only has SG-1 not Atlantis or Universe, HULU currently has all. You guys need to get your info straight rather than just "picking it off the shelf" ;)

On Amazon Not it's listed as 'X-Rated' and you can NOT stream it on prime. (07/12/21)

I wonder how far some new viewers will get into the series when they realise that there are no more boobs after the first episode?

The correct version is the original version, end of. Editing around nudity because people are prudes is the failure here, not the "failure" of giving out different versions to different streaming services. The best version would be the original version, finally upscaled like the other episodes.

since the pilot version was tv-ma i am guessing they kept the highest tv rating as the bar when delivering the entire season as a bundle. part of this could be to avoid potential rejection by netflix. 1. netflix rejections may result in fines if a delivery from a studio contains some sort of inaccuracy or defect. 2. it could be perceived that a higher tv rating is less crucial than something delivered with a lower tv rating that actuality. eg., tv-ma delivered as tv-14. the incentive is to just get the content out there. now it is out there, mgm can make the adjustments needed to correct the metadata on netflix. mgm may need to talk with a netflix rep to sort this out. fans will need to voice this to them otherwise both sides may not care because their end goal could be just to have to content out there - which it is.

There was a lot of stuff in the first 5 series. It wasn't on cable tv it was on premium TV. Netflix does not get to choose this.

I recently re-watched the first season and noticed a brief nip-slip when that little girl (who was adopted by the doctor) was on the operating table.

I would be disappointed if I watched SG-1 and expected a TV-MA material .

It was available on Amazon Prime. When it was no longer offered for free, it was no longer offered at all.... Not even offered for purchase. I have it on DVD, but would have purchased Atlantis.... Which is nowhere apparently...

Stan in Australia currently has all Stargate series Streamable and has the nudity version of Children of the Gods so have made the whole Series of Stargate SG1, SGA and SGU Rated M by Australian Rating Standards

that pisses me off as an adult who hates turning great family shows into gritty, dark, or 'adult' versions. I am bingeing on Hulu and it's all the Stargate I feel comfortable with my kids watching. Glad to know NOT to recommend on Netflix!

Do people really pay attention to those ratings?

MGM has done more damage to the brand than anything, And a point of order. There is a lot of gun play in SG1, people link the label due to nudity, sorry, but the violence on some shows is over the top and children should not watch it

when was the clip was first shot. in Canada only the 3 movies of Stargate can be viewed in Canada.

Here is another complaint: It will be a very cold day in HELL when I choose to restart my subscription to Netflix so I can watch Stargate SG-1! It would be cheaper (and more satisfying) for me to buy the series (perhaps on DVD?) than waste that kind of money to be able to watch one TV series. Just my opinion - yours may vary, and that's okay.

Not sure it would turn away many. Most parents know of stargate at this point. As far as MA rating, totally unnecessary, but the biggest draw I have seen are 20-30 year olds discovering the series for the first time (not to mention my 30 year old girlfriend just marathoned all SG1 and is about to wrap up Atlantis..onto universe next, then pray for a new show). So yeah, it might have got some avoiding the show, but not as many as you would think, and might even draw some who want to watch a mature show and seen that rating. I'd call it a wash.

6:32 "it's wrong" - Dave by that Dave meant nudity in Urgo ;) :P

They should just replace the pilot with the Final Cut version because the nudity does absolutely nothing and isn't consistent with the rest of the series. So Why even continue to publish that version Publish final cut on all DVD's and publish the Nudity cut as a separate "unrated" version for those who want it.

Is the TV-MA entirely on someone who sent SG1 over to Netflix... or isn’t some onus on Netflix to have some kind of awareness of what they’re buying?

Must be American Netflix we don't have SG-1 on it here in Canada

The great mystery to me is why Netflix simply doesn’t stream the two less explicit versions of _Children of the Gods,_ after all, isn’t that why the final cut was made? I’ve always felt that _SG-1_ was the logical descendant at the end of a lineage starting with the _Flash Gordon_ serials on through to _Star Wars:_ adventure stories for all ages! Okay, I’m a Media Junkie, and a bit of a purist too, and so the original cut can be placed in a separate pocket of Netflix easily enough, I’d imagine! Methinks someone is shortsighted!

What? It's Stargate SG-1 on Netflix? It's definitely not on Netflix in Sweden?

I am a huge SG fan including Universe. Never could keep up with TV, nothing! ADHD, kids,, laundry,, life.. So being able to binge so many years later is amazing. I Netflix and Prime. Netflix is in my bedtime routine. Can't figure out why I can't fall asleep with Prime? Autoplay is turned off. I'm a chronic insomniac. So SG is more important to me than just an old cool TV show. Any SG series has replaced my ST Voyager. I was shocked and didn't understand Children of the Gods when it came back to Netflix. I thought what the??? Then I learned of the different cuts and TV-MA controversy. In all honesty, I'm glad the show didn't go on like that. The PG version should put on Netflix. I hope the buy goes thru, that Amazon gives the green light for new productions. I need to know what happens with Eli!!! New movies to set the stage for new series or continuation of. I hope Brad can get this ball rolling. Even the glimmer of hope is exciting.

I read that as "brain damage" and couldn't help thinking, "I like stargate well enough, but it was NEVER an intelligent franchise, how can it be brain damaged?" . The irony...

I am in germany an don´t have access to Stargate on Netflix. But R-rating? the whole show, which has more than freakin 6! days of watchtime because of what? 5 minutes of nudity?

2:00 Come on! Stargate has Tealc turn into an eggsac for bugs but oh no lets not have some skin showing because that will scare children.... what!

and this is another reason why i don't have netflix anymore -_- i watch it on hulu since it is still not available on prime yet,,,, i miss my 16:9 resolution on prime Y-Y lol

I actually only watched SG-1 in 2008. I did not watch it prior. I believe I watched the original version of the premier at that time. It did not negatively impact my opinion of the series. I enjoyed watching it for the first time and binged it all in a matter of weeks. I have subsequently seen the final version. This also did not hurt my opinion of the show. Bottom line, we need new eyes in here on this series. Sure it’d be great if all the new people got the best versions… but just like when Trek got big in syndication in the 70’s… the version you got often varied in quality from one tv station to another. It had varied cuts due to what each local station was doing to the show. What the viewer was using to view the series varied widely. Some only had black white TVs . Some had color. Some had bad OTA reception. Still with all of this, Star Trek The Original Series managed to explode in terms of popularity. Yes, it was a different time and there were less places to receive visual media at home. That certainly helped. However, what hooked people was the content. The content stood on its own no matter how badly it was impacted by the factors listed above. As I said before. We’ve got to get new eyes on this show. We’ve got to spread the word amongst friends, family, and most importantly new acquaintances in sci-fi community. I watched most of SG-1 on my iPhone 4 on a 3.5 inch screen. It was glorious. Is this the most optimum way to view it? No. But that didn’t matter. The content stood on its own. Did you guys mention that Stargate is still being syndicated and show over the air in many places in the US? While broadcast digital signals are HD, it doesn’t mean the TVs used to watch these shows are. They could be and sometimes are SD TVs with converters attached. I know people that are still using cathode TVs cause they still work. Could the nudity/ TVMA thing turn people away? Maybe. But what we see in that first episode is extremely tame by today’s standards. New viewers are going to have to decide for themselves. The content will stand on its own. We’ve got to get new eyes on these shows. We’ve got to spread the word, and more importantly be un afraid to share it with all kinds of people. I had a conversation in comment section recently on this channel where a fellow fan was decrying trying to get the word out to other genre channels. They were afraid of the channel that I mentioned. Mostly because they presumed that channel to be negative. We can’t be afraid to share Stargate with other people. It will stand on its own.

Checked my subscription and my location doesn't show SG1.

sg are not avail globaly on amazon just us aperently i hope they fix that and PS is not even on netflix on my area too, i think this is the bigger issue than some nudity part

Its not available to netflix in the UK and on Amazon you have to subscribe to mgm on amazon prime

If Netflix does the fourth SG series, it will assuredly have nudity, f-bombs, and Carter will give up on Jack and get a girlfriend.

I wouldn't worry about Netflix considering the fact MGM own the franchise and they were just brought by Amazon, therefore Amazon now owns it. If anything you'll see it on Amazon Prime in the future not Netflix.

And I don't have a problem with shows/movies getting an adult or mature rating when there is killing, torture etc. involved even when there is no nudity. Viewers who care should be able to tell if it's something they want to watch or not.

SG:1 said they have a problem with the establishment; no one believed them! 😁😄

Ratings don't matter to people. No idea why you guys are discussing it for so many months now, looks like an edit of old footage and reupload. "Oh there is nudity?! Great, I'm gonna watch it." Is more how younger people are gonna approach it if they even notice the TV-MA and know what it means by some miracle. Honestly who even knows what all these ratings mean let alone follow them. Plus what's "mature" over there? Since when do people need to hide their bodies? I guess that's for the prudish Americans who fear the sight of bare skin on TV.

I wish the series were still available on Amazon Prime. I cannot afford to subscribe to a bunch of different streaming outlets. I will not pay for Netflix...we dropped them a long time ago for lack of decent content/going political.

Why can't they slap an MA warning on only the single episode? I would consider the rest of the series to be G rated

I caught it on Netflix and wondered why it was on every single episode if they paid attention they could have taken it off since they really don't have to worry about it on all the other episodes but I don't pay attention to it much because they usually switch to Hulu if the wife is watching something on Netflix cuz I don't pay for two streams and Hulu has all three anyway.

Best way to get the word out, I loan my hardcopies of the Stargate series' out to people I know, I watch with my kids and my friends and family members. Word of mouth spreads like mono, guys.

Is this the same on Netflix uk David as well? Who do I write to about this, this is so irresponsible

why cant they use the edited version?

Not on Netflix in UK.

“Nudity” is actually from the movie children of the gods that got turned into two episodes. When Daniels “wife”gets naked. They didn’t show the blonde chick. But they showed her fully naked. That’s why

As The Expanse has only 1 more season left before hitting a time jump in books it makes sense for Amazon to try get a Stargate show up and running to fill the void