100% worth it. If you have astrophotography gear like I did, sell it and get NV. Now I view those “photo only” objects in real time. I bought a used Gen3+ unit for only 2k.
@@DakotaStarryNights I got my PVS14 to run on my helmet with my AR and IR illuminator for aiming… then I looked up at the stars and also got into astronomy!
ever since my friend let me borrow his PVS 14, and I added a hydrogen alpha filter to it, it is and still is an amazing experience to use night vision to scan the milky way
Night vision is an interesting option, however the 'real scenery feel' and color afforded in the 16" cannot be discounted. More than 22 years ago I used a 0 Lux Sony handicam to image the night sky through an 8" SCT as well as wide sky for meteor showers. I could see the ring and such through the 8" recorded 480x480 low resolution. But what it showed me is that NV and other live assisted devices have the drawback of false color and seeing the electronic photon to pixel conversion giving the scintillation of the background. This is where I enjoyed the naked eye live moreso though I'd miss out on nebulosity extension which the NV helps show up. With modern stacking software there are now devices coming online to fit the niche between expensive NV and full EAA with computers and such.
You sold me on Night vision with your prior videos on it . I also ended up with the Hubble 12 inch because of your Hubble review. I really like the 12 but it took some modding to make it really sweet.
NV is a game changer for me. The HO 12 looked really cool. Like a guy could put in a backpack and head out to wilder places where it's good and dark. 😊🪐💫
Man almost forgot about night vision. Moving from a bortle 6 to bortle 1 next week and never have seen a night sky that dark with any optics. Had to cancel my Hubble 12” to make the move but seeing your 6” refractor think my 6” reflector will do. My place visibly is low with redwoods and gonna be moving around a lot anyway for a 12”
Bortle 1 should be amazing! I don’t have NV but have read a lot about it. At bortle 1 most galaxies will look better without NV, GCs probably get the edge without NV, but nebula still win with NV unless color is very important and even then it depends. In terms of it being worth it, I think viewing regularly from bortle 1 without NV is somewhat of a dream for many of us. NV helps somewhat overcome the inconvenience of not being able to travel to dark skies regularly, but also get the best view possible of some objects like the horse head nebula. If I was in bortle 1 I probably wouldn’t bother with NV, but bortle 4 and above I still would (I’m at 5/6 currently).
Looking into the TV Night Vision for my TV85 refractor. I’m mainly a visual user with all TV EP’s. I’m older and portability is key. 16” Dob would be sweet, but too much work. I’m in Palm Springs area and we’re a bortle7/8, frick’n horrible with poor seeing.. most of time. So, I drive a bit to dark sky’s, best is 4, maybe 3 east of Joshua tree National park. That’s just Desert. So, will do more research on the night vision. Cool video! Thank You
Great video! How about the improvement in magnitude using te device with the big dob? What do you think of the resolution usingthe device? It looks to be negatvely impacted to some extent, at least with your camera images. The globular shown was a good example. The star images aren't exactly pinpoints. I don't know if that was partly because of seeing. Woould there be good resolution on the trapesium? Like good definition ofthe D and E stars? I know exactly what you are saying conerning the big dob and a filter on the veil. Just astounding, and maybe because of the excellent contrast, compared to the device?
With NV there is an improvement in magnitude with any scope. But NV is not so much about resolution. However, at the eyepiece it's much better than what the camera is showing here due to focus issues and the limits of video recording. The main advantage to NV is seeing faint objects that otherwise would not be visible or would show very little structure. For outreach, it's a game changer. But as stated at the end of the video, with NV and a big dob you can have the best of both worlds. :)
No color in the objects. But a green PVS14 offers a little more contrast. Outside of that, not having colored objects doesn't make that much of a difference. However, seeing the objects using night vision does makes a huge difference. It's a game changer.
Really interesting, thanks a lot. I’m here after trying my sub $€£100 discount store (Lidl) ‘image intensifier’ on summer twilight Jupiter. It has really coarse resolution and a 50mm lens but I was amazed to see how well it brought up the moons even hand held. It was miles better than an image stabilised 12x36 bino. Anyway thanks again, I’ll look for more and sub’.
i really need your help friend. i have a canon 80D camera with fish eye and 100-300mm lens. I have been told you can get good filters for night vision but the military grade equipment for my camera costs thousands!
The only night vision device I've worked with is a PVS14. As far as I know they are not compatible with your camera. You might want to try EAA, Electronic Assisted Astronomy, which employs live stacking to produce images. There is a treasure trove of information here: www.cloudynights.com/forum/73-electronically-assisted-astronomy-no-post-processing/ Clear Skies!
@@dgdave2673 mostly for objects like globular clusters. Something to do with cutting off at a certain wavelength. Worth trying a few diagonals out and see if it shows a difference
I caught the Veil on a super-clear autumn evening with my 10” Dob and Lumicon OIII from my 4.5 Bortle front yard no problem. I had a great observing session this past summer at Cherry Springs PA and was able to see the OWL, spiral structure in M51 averted vision, dumbbell-ring very bright with detail, M64 Black Eye and Sombrero Galaxy dark lane With my “SIX” inch star watcher dob. Folks it’s about light pollution and not aperture!
Congrats on that Veil capture. It's a tough one at times. Spiral structure in M51 is also a great capture, especially in a 6" dob! I'd agree light pollution is a bigger factor than aperture. But, what's also worth noting is the visual experience of the person in front of the eyepiece. Which, from your report, you've have. 👍
I totally agree, my 8 inch scope looked better on M51 at the Grand Canyon (really dark) than my Obsession 22 ever showed it. (I had my Obsession in almost as dark skies but never had good seeing). I've subsequently sold the 22 as it was much harder to move around and after the realization that it was about finding darker skies rather than bigger scopes! (and I have night vision too and that's a great equalizer)
hey if another mountain lion comes and your wife is there, all you have to do is run faster than her. 🤣 wow, how can people buy just one telescope? 😎 so many toys. thanks.
dont understand all your language .. pbs14 whatever. We dont know what is what. Would be nice if you would take the second to tell us what equipment you are using, not a minute, just a second. ie. 14", ... what is refractor? mirror lens? etc. only takes seconds because we are considering getting into the hobby.
Hey there Amazing, there's a link in the bottom of the video description above that has the information you seek: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6usKtqpVMi8.html Clear Skies!
