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Is Oil Consumption a Concern on 2023 Chevy Silverado 3.0L Duramax Diesel? 

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Is there an issue with oil consumption for the 2023 Chevy Silverado 3.0L Durmax diesel? This has been a topic brought up many times online and publisher Tim Esterdahl gets to the bottom of this concern.
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@jimharrison3552
@jimharrison3552 Год назад
If the truck left the factory with a extra quart of oil in it and after 2500 miles your down to under a half on the dip stick, that's a lot of oil used in 2500 miles.
@sdc5683
@sdc5683 Год назад
I agree.That engine may have burnt 3 quarts.
@stevenlefebvre2991
@stevenlefebvre2991 Год назад
I’m glad I read your comment because that’s exactly the same thing I was going to say. I don’t know why he thinks he did not burn much oil because he burned a shit load of oil in 2500 miles. I can’t believe how bad they are building these vehicles if they are burning so much oil. My two V8 tundras do not burn a drop of oil.
@rickdalie
@rickdalie Год назад
He is a GM puppet unfortunately 🤣 .....I lease all my trucks and everyone should too
@Rick-vg2pz
@Rick-vg2pz Год назад
He did not break it in properly. It should not consume oil especially with only 2600 miles. He if goes 7500-10,000 mile oil change intervals, burn it up.
@JJ-mh3hb
@JJ-mh3hb Год назад
@@rickdalie leasing is for idiots that don't know how to do simple math. If everyone stopped leasing, prices would drop significantly.
@greghennecke4789
@greghennecke4789 Год назад
I bought a 2020 Silverado HC 3.0 diesel. At 2,500 miles it was barely registering on the tip stick. Ended up doing a consumption test with my dealer and it exceeded gm specs. I traded it in with 18.5k miles for a 21 AT4 3.0 diesel. It has been flawless. The most oil used so far has been 1/2 qt over 6,500 mile intervals. MPGs are phenomenal with 22-24 city and 27 to 34 on hwy. Best 400 mile loop was 29mpg and best 50 mile loop is 34.7mpg. Seems to sip DEF. Sitting @ 46600 miles now.
@tedbear6012
@tedbear6012 Год назад
Pretty sure u have an lm2 engine. Hes looking at the new lz0 . It's taking alot more def than the lm2
@thomasniblock5134
@thomasniblock5134 Год назад
Hopefully that will be my story, bought the 2023 AT4 as well. Only at 1,000 miles checked oil yesterday, and it registered full on stick! We'll see I guess. Thanks
@Chris-ms7xc
@Chris-ms7xc 11 месяцев назад
My 2020 GMC Sierra 1500 3.0 is going through oil I haven’t figured it out per mile but it’s down a full qt before I hit 50% so I am adding 2 and a half qt per oil change. I do tow about 20% of the time and go the DEF a lot. Get great fuel mileage and love the truck but I am worried about this oil usage
@TheSwamppilot
@TheSwamppilot 8 месяцев назад
I have the 2022 Silverado with 3.0 duramax and 51k miles. Due to all the oil usage reports, I have kept a watchful-eye on the dipstick since new . I change the oil based on when the built in monitor says it is time. We own a ranch and this truck is put to task. It does not have an easy life. I have never once found the engine to have used oil. Something is being concealed here. There are many reports of trucks that are not using oil, and others using a substantial amount of oil. The fleet should be consistent. There appears to be a manufacturing issue. My two cents.
@MarkJCarruthers
@MarkJCarruthers Год назад
I have a feeling the 0W-20 DexosD has something to do with it. Also, I am sure your consumption will go down once the engine has more miles on it.
@thebigguy
@thebigguy Год назад
My household owns 5 vehicles with all but one having more than 100K miles. One with 198K miles uses about 1Q/10K miles, one with 185K uses about 1Q/8K miles, the others don't use any. Trying to convince me that 1Q/2K miles is acceptable in a new vehicle is a non-starter for me.
@GoldenHart1970
@GoldenHart1970 Год назад
This oil consumption isn't a diesel thing, its a GM thing. I have several friends with GM trucks with the gas engines, and when they change the oil at 5,000 miles it will be down 1 to 2 quarts and GM says this is normal and don't worry about it, lol. But if you let it go down to around 3 quarts low it will start to starve the engine of oil and can destroy the engine. Oh and my 2014 Toyota Tundra with 150, 000 miles that I over load and tow with a lot, doesn't lose one drop of oil at every oil change.
@stevenlefebvre2991
@stevenlefebvre2991 Год назад
I totally agree with you that’s why I have two tundras with the 5.7 V8 and they also don’t burn a drop of oil.
@lylevalentine5902
@lylevalentine5902 Год назад
I was wondering that because I have never owned a diesel.
@sly9263
@sly9263 Год назад
Oil consumption is also a BMW thing- design defects
@ml1754
@ml1754 Год назад
Mine never did but it did have a leaking water pump gasket at 80k which is ridiculous...300 to 600 to fix. Somebody hit me before I bit that bullet. Oh and that truck used gas sitting turned off in my driveway got like 13 mpg...with what 15 or so years that 5.7 was well established and bugs worked out these diesels are what 3 years at best...
@michaelotoole1807
@michaelotoole1807 Год назад
mid size 2019 diesel Colorado driver. ive never had any oil consumption. oil change at every 5,000 miles. my girlfriend used my truck for a trip and she said 1 day while driving my edge monitor alarm went off oil high oil temp. 220 degrees. was a very hot day 80 mph highway driving. was down 1/4 quart in about 300 mile drive.
@mnichols2773
@mnichols2773 Год назад
Make sure to check your owners manual. The oil level is usually right in the middle of the high and low mark after shutting down the engine and takes overnight for the oil level to reach the full mark on my Chevy gasser. For a gas engine Chevy: Check the engine oil level after the engine has been off for at least 2 hours. Checking oil too soon after engine shutdown can result in incorrect readings.
@treborheminway3814
@treborheminway3814 Год назад
Thanks for the headsup!
@hochhaul
@hochhaul Год назад
Even on the gasoline engines, GM says to let the vehicle sit for an hour to get the most accurate oil level reading. It's sheer ignorance for this guy to suggest running the engine before checking the oil level is the correct way to do it.
@8ball_998
@8ball_998 Год назад
Diesel was a 1.60 more per gallon today when I stopped for fuel. My last truck was a Duramax and I kept it 11 years. But now days between the cost of fuel, all the expensive emissions equipment, extra cost on filters and DEF. Only way I’d own a diesel is if I towed heavy A LOT. By that I mean several days a week or you tow long distances regularly. If you aren’t pulling a bunch, I just don’t think they are worth the hassle.
@fredwalker839
@fredwalker839 Год назад
For Sure ! I’m on my 5th Duramax, the newer GM 2019 is a “pig” on fuel , compared to the Isuzu 6.6 ! 4-5 of my buddies bought the 6.6L gas version,, & they get the same consumption,, without losing any power ! $12K cheaper ! No more Deisels for me either !
@sprint2648
@sprint2648 Год назад
Exactly right! Tow heavy often, yes get a diesel. Other than that it makes no sense over gas, especially in a half ton.
@27dmarshall
@27dmarshall Год назад
Solution: For the HD truck guys. Ford's 7.3L Godzilla or GM 6.6L L8T for you GM loyalists. Both old school push rod engines. Godzilla is even port fuel injected. No DEF, No HPFP, No DPF, No EGR, No turbo to wait on to cool down, or fail prematurely, cheaper fuel, etc etc.
@lewiswatchorn7239
@lewiswatchorn7239 Год назад
What’s interesting is that ever since I’ve owned a 2007 Avalanche, I’ve been told by GM that the accepted consumption was 1 Qt per 2000 miles back then. I’ve never had consumption issues in other brands.
@johngivens4644
@johngivens4644 Год назад
I had a 2014 LTZ .5 ton and I was told the Chevy shake was road force.. lol
@johnmills837
@johnmills837 Год назад
It isn't burned from ring area. The PCV sucks it into the intake.
@_LFOD1836
@_LFOD1836 Год назад
@@johnmills837 that's why gear heads use catch cans.
@johnmills837
@johnmills837 Год назад
@@_LFOD1836 I do because I tow at 2,700 rpm for hours. Can't tow in OD with the 4L60E.
@MrPchubare
@MrPchubare Год назад
So happy GM increased the price by 10K in Canada and I cancelled my GMC Sierra 3.0 order and got the Tundra instead. After 10,000 km same oil amount as at the beginning...
@dtay8697
@dtay8697 Год назад
My 2021 AT4 was eating a quart every 500 miles. After a year of oil consumption testing they took my truck in for a "fix". It was a bad baffle in the valve cover, or at least that's what I was told. The fix seems to have worked, but it took 3 1/2 months to get it fixed. It has been back in the shop again to fix check engine lights.
@darylw1577
@darylw1577 Год назад
I had a 2020 GMC 6.2L and it Consumed OIL - GM tech said was normal. First new truck I’ve drove that when getting fuel / add litre of Oil. So wasn’t going to argue with GM, that’s crazy and SOLD it !!!! I’ve drove a few trucks, all brands and never had a motor Consume oil like this 6.2L did. I was considering a 3.0L diesel GM, but maybe I’ll stick with my Ford.
@rickschwartz2447
@rickschwartz2447 Год назад
a few years ago the f150 5.0 engine used oil ford fix was to give you a longer dip stick and add one more quart of oil in
@n2cycles
@n2cycles Год назад
I’ve been in the auto business since the mid 70s and virtually every manufacturer has similar oil consumption specs. BMW wouldn’t address the issue unless you used more than a quart very 1000 miles.
@wilmarbarrick3194
@wilmarbarrick3194 Год назад
Bingo. It's not that the engine WILL use that much. It's just won't be considered a problem unless it exceeds that.
@Rift45
@Rift45 Год назад
Yes! They set those specs to avoid warranty claims
@bryandavies9212
@bryandavies9212 Год назад
My 2011 f150 with 3.7l and all prior v6 cars always held their oil level between oil changes. Almost no consumption ever!
@1randyharbin
@1randyharbin Год назад
I follow the owners manual, from the "Vehicle Care" section on page 26 of the Diesel Supplement with my 21 with LM2 titled "Checking Engine Oil" . To get an accurate reading, park the vehicle on level ground. Check the engine oil level after the engine has been off for at least two hours. Checking the engine oil level on steep grades or too soon after engine shutoff can result in incorrect readings. Accuracy improves when checking a cold engine prior to starting. Remove the dipstick and check the level. . If unable to wait two hours, the engine must be off for at least 15 minutes if the engine is warm, or at least 30 minutes if the engine is not warm. Pull out the dipstick, wipe it with a clean paper towel or cloth, then push it back in all the way. Remove it again, keeping the tip down, and check the level.
@paulkatelyntoney3219
@paulkatelyntoney3219 Год назад
I couldn’t believe my ears when he said to check oil you first run it for a little bit absolutely no logic. Why does the oil have to circulate before you check it. I think he must be confused with checking oil level after oil change maybe but still would have to let it sit for a long enough time before checking.
@davidhorne2326
@davidhorne2326 Год назад
Didn’t think GM made a 2 stroke diesel any longer.
@jamescopeland9147
@jamescopeland9147 Год назад
LOL
@AkioWasRight
@AkioWasRight Год назад
They don't, this is Wankel territory we're in now.
@matthewholzmueller6292
@matthewholzmueller6292 Год назад
If you know, then ya know.
@bobcostin6840
@bobcostin6840 Год назад
Ha, ha..
@mastpg
@mastpg Год назад
Zing
@toddkovalcik332
@toddkovalcik332 Год назад
My 2020 GMC is currently undergoing an oil consumption test (2k miles test per dealer) Truck has 33k miles and on a recent 2k mile trip I added 1 quart each way and when I arrived at home oil was half way between low and high marks. We'll see what happens in a few months after I go back to the dealer, but what bummer to have to constantly add oil on such a new vehicle! Love the channel and how you dig deep on these issues.
@darylw1577
@darylw1577 Год назад
GM has a serious problem, my 2020 6.2L consumed oil bad as well. 25 to 3k oil be right off dip stick.
@thomasniblock5134
@thomasniblock5134 Год назад
You can include myself! I never heard of such a thing. I bought the diesel thinking that it would be my last vehicle. Def, oil, diesel! What the???😮
@daver3778
@daver3778 Год назад
I guess that explains the oil change interval from your earlier video. You don't need to worry about changing oil as you are steadily adding new oil. Just need to change the oil filter at some point.
@LarryButler-kp3se
@LarryButler-kp3se 10 месяцев назад
WRONG!! Frequent diesel oil changes is because the huge explosions (knocking) causes ring blowby normally CONTAMINATING the lube with carbon. Keep adding without proper changes makes the contamination worse and worse, wearing out the rings resulting in a runaway engine running on crankcase oil! No matter what they tell you, change oil at 3000 miles using Rotella T4 dino oil or Chevron Delo 400. DO NOT WASTE MONEY ON SYNTHETIC as it won't stop the blowby. DO NOT EXTEND the 3000 mile limit! My 41-yr-old Mercedes 300TD and 35-yr-old Chevy P22 surplus Air Force 6.2l diesel stepvan prove it.
@fredtotal33
@fredtotal33 Год назад
GM excuse built in so they can say “it’s normal…they all do it” crap. About the oil pan change. There goes your warranty
@fredwalker839
@fredwalker839 Год назад
100% right ! Not if, but , when the engine blows up,,,,,Warranty “denied” aftermarket parts installed ! Bin there ! No Do !
@markman7
@markman7 Год назад
GM also uses low tension piston rings. If it takes a couple extra cases of oil over 200k miles, I'm ok with it since I've seen multiple 5.3 V8's with well over 200k on them which still show faint honing cross hatch in the cylinders, and it's because of the low tension rings. Cadillac Northstars were acceptable using 1 qt/1000 miles 25 years ago, but on them it went out the tailpipe, sides of the block, and main seals. A lot of them used more coolant than oil too.
@icehog2367
@icehog2367 Год назад
Lot's of those 5.3's that grenade at low miles.
@stevenlefebvre2991
@stevenlefebvre2991 Год назад
There’s no reason to burn that much oil except Poor manufacturing. Cylinder honing is a science. It’s not that hard to make a good piston and rings that seal. If my 5.7 tundra with 0-20 oil cannot burn a drop of oil so can the other manufacturers.
@markman7
@markman7 Год назад
@@icehog2367 I've owned 5 of them and they've all been great. Several friends and relatives had them too, for a lot of miles, and I never heard of a catastrophic failure from anyone. I'm sure there are those who had an issue, but there are millions and millions of them out there.
@ajmedeiros77
@ajmedeiros77 Год назад
Unacceptable! So tired of the gm fanboys making excusing and ignoring all the crap gm shoved down their throats. And the newer 5.3’s with direct injection and cylinder deactivation will not even make it to 200k without major work and money. Sad because gm used to be great way back before the 2000’s.
@markman7
@markman7 Год назад
@@ajmedeiros77 Yeah, optispark and TBI was awesome. I'd have a use for one of those small block V8's, but my boat already has an anchor.
@leebenson3201
@leebenson3201 Год назад
You have 2500 miles on your truck, and you're just below the halfway mark on the dipstick, and GM over fills the new trucks by one quart. This isn't right. A new truck shouldn't be using any oil.
@nickbrady7597
@nickbrady7597 Год назад
I have had nothing but trouble out of mine. Been in the shop for 8 months. Numerous parts replaced.
@clintmasse6957
@clintmasse6957 Год назад
I had a 2021 LM2 diesel .... put 40,000 Miles on it .... I usually make it 1/2 way through an oil change and had to add a quart ...I had to pack a quart in a brand new truck ... because that crazy oil is impossible to find anywhere except the dealer. I was like ... this is crazy --BUT loved the fuel mileage so much i bought a 2023 with the LM0 -- Just assuming GM would address the oil burning problem because its nuts! -- So far so good ... not burning oil (but I'm only 1/2 way to the first oil change) -- If you say they put an extra quart in at factory.... then my guess is this engine burns oil too.
@christianwise4403
@christianwise4403 Год назад
Mfg for years have had acceptable standards for oil use or burn in 90’s acceptable oil consumption of 1quart per 1,000 miles
@tfred41
@tfred41 Год назад
I got the 2.7 turbo and very happy with it, I know people with 60-80 thousand miles no problem. The 2.7 tows over 9,000 pounds, no need to add DEF, oil change is about 50 dollars, no oil consumption. People say the 2.7 gets bad gas mileage. Its a full size truck with a 24 gallon fuel tank and getting over 450 miles per fill up, and if you do all highway your getting over 500. lets not forget trucks with v8 gets about 350 miles to a full tank and usually the tank size is about 30 gallons. The 3 liter diesel just to much to deal with oil consumption, adding DEF, over 100 dollars for oil change and over 100 dollars to fill up. yes the Diesel gets better gas milage but when you look at your annual cost for diesel, the 2.7 still is cheaper.
@toddkovalcik332
@toddkovalcik332 Год назад
Good points on the 2.7. I own the 3.0 but would love to test the 2.7 n the real world. I don't tow more than 5-6,000 lbs so this may be a good option, just seems odd to put such a small motor (a powerfully small motor) in a full size truck, but heck it seems like a reasonable option based on your comparison. Are you lacking in any power or are you happy with it overall?
@tfred41
@tfred41 Год назад
@@toddkovalcik332 I drove a 5.3. for many years and I can tell you that my 2.7 feels way better, more power, better gas mileage and tow more. let not forget is a 4 cylinder but the pistons are about the same size of the 6.2 V8,. so if you think about it, its a v8 chop in half with a turbo.
@robertrice4441
@robertrice4441 Год назад
I was the original owner of a 2007 Duramax LBZ and towed regularly a 24 foot toy hauler. I barely dropped below full in 7000 miles between oil change intervals using Shaffer's 9000 full synthetic diesel oil. I sold it after 85K miles and the oil consumption never changed.
@TastyBananaFatch
@TastyBananaFatch Год назад
If you're down a half quart since buying your truck, you've burned 1.5 quarts in 2400 miles (this factors in the extra quart from the factory). That's a lot of oil. Expect to add a quart of oil every 4 or 5 fillups.
@fredwalker839
@fredwalker839 Год назад
Ya! Would you check my fuel & fill the oil ! LOL
@philvines4749
@philvines4749 Год назад
My 6.6 used two quarts before the first oil change have 20000 on it now absolutely love it now hasn’t used a drop since short trips on break in a bit tough have patience it will be fine!
@lcazier619
@lcazier619 Год назад
On our farm equipment the engines come with a break in oil. Some engines need to run the break in oil longer to get broke in. We keep an eye on break in oil level then when it stops consuming it and so many hours we change to regular oil.
@bruceharkness4497
@bruceharkness4497 Год назад
Why not just keep adding that extra quart of oil that the factory used? You get extra capacity without spending money and labor on that pan?
@debrastarke3996
@debrastarke3996 Год назад
Just wait a couple years until these engines are getting replaced under warranty and GM will say “you never checked the oil”. Warranty void
@CleaningMyGun
@CleaningMyGun Год назад
You need to use Amsoil synthetic oil. This stuff stopped my Tundra from consuming 1 Quart a month. And use a Bypass Oil FIlter too. Great channel Tim!
@edwardpate6128
@edwardpate6128 Год назад
Ah yes, the ever present ScamsOil posts.
@BrianKrahmer
@BrianKrahmer Год назад
The Dexos 2d 0W-20 is the same oil as Mobil 1 Delvac ESPx2 (fully synthetic and rated for diesel usage), and is a fantastic product. anyone suggesting something better, better come with some real data
@CleaningMyGun
@CleaningMyGun Год назад
@@BrianKrahmer Gale Banks who is a world-famous diesel engine builder uses Amsoil. Here is a video he did with a scientist at Amsoil. This should give you the proof you are looking for: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9rEGIB2F8qA.html
@hahaadventures4838
@hahaadventures4838 Год назад
Owned 2 - 3.0 Dmax trucks and neither one consumed any oil whatsoever. Even when I tow my RV it doesn’t burn any oil. For those who do burn oil, that sure beats having your 5.3 or 6.2 lifters and cams destroyed prematurely!!!
@garyroy1603
@garyroy1603 Год назад
Being from Quebec Canada, been following you since you got your 2023 diesel. Got my 23 Silverado while waiting for my diesel Tahoe for 18 months. I was always aware that the overall costs of the diesel were more than those of a gas engine, since I will be towing a 3500 pounds RV. I wanted to have this great torque at lo rpm to make it fun towing. But know at .80$ a liter more than gaz, a lot of def when towing and a greater oil consumption, I will consider changing my tahoes order for a 6.2 gas. This way I will get the looks of the pipes, the sound, and most probably my order. Thx for all you put on the tube very much interesting.
@ZLwh1ne
@ZLwh1ne Год назад
5.3 and 6.2 have seeerious lifter issues
@kwmiked
@kwmiked Год назад
See this is why manufacturers don't put diesels in trucks that reg people drive that don't know what they are talking about. Most diesels burn oil for thousands of miles until broken in, Even CAT and Cummins engines burn oil up till 50k miles plus till ring a are seated, some closer to 100k, they use to say they are just broken in at 100k 🤷‍♂️ Most people nowadays don't keep these trucks to a 100k nor load them and work them to break them in sooner, so someone who just drives it around like a car will generally see oil consumption and think it's burning oil, something is wrong.
@hometaughted
@hometaughted Год назад
I have 45k on my 3.0 Duramax and don’t have any oil burning problems. I just checked my oil and after 4,800 miles since my last oil change, I am right at the halfway mark on the stick. I did add a quart of oil during and out west trip after towing our camper for about 3,000 miles.
@ronaldemerson4314
@ronaldemerson4314 Год назад
Toyota had a similar problem ~ 12-15 years ago in their 4 cylinder gas engines. My neighbor has one of those cars and he went thru the "oil consumption analysis" goat rope with his Toyota dealer a couple of times,... but his car didn't burn enough oil to warrant an engine change-out .....so they told him too bad so sad...deal with it!!! He told me this story earlier last year and I said why don't you try some Marvel Myster Oil in the crankcase and give it a few thousand miles to see if that helps the oil consumption issue. It seems to have worked for my 2005 E320 diesel as it burned oil and I usually had to add a quart between changes. Ever since I have been using MMO in it though, the oil consumption issue has abated and it no longer burns any oil. Well,...low and behold after ~ 4000 miles, his car no longer burns ANY oil and he is happier than pig in a warm mud puddle on a cold day! MMO doesn't work quickly, it will take 5,000 to 10,000 miles to do its' optimum effect, but for $8 a quart at Wally world, if I were you I would invest $16 and put a quart in your truck right in the parking lot and do the same thing with the second quart at your next oil change and by the time the oil change after that rolls around, I believe you will notice a significant reduction in your truck's appetite for engine oil. I use MMO in everything I have from lawnmowers, motorcycles and all my cars and trucks...it works.
@bertschb
@bertschb 11 месяцев назад
I've got 4,800 miles on my 2023 Silverado 3.0 Duramax. It hasn't burned any oil at all.
@mr.yamaha2855
@mr.yamaha2855 Год назад
Mercedes M series use a ton of oil and the customers are told this is normal. My friend had one and it used a quart a month. They said they would not fix it. It was in the usage range of the manufacturer specs. Probably only 700 or 800 miles per month.
@notme5909
@notme5909 Год назад
A few years ago gm performance crate engines had consumption problems.. it was because they used low tension oil rings.. most hot rodders would take them apart and install standard tension oil rings and it fixed the problem....
@High61Way
@High61Way Год назад
4.6 toy tundra 2010 never added oil
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP Год назад
Never added oil???? You better get an oil change asap! :P
@BPJac
@BPJac Год назад
That is not a diesel. Diesels do tend to use a bit more oil than gas engines, but not usually this much...
@dougsmith7195
@dougsmith7195 Год назад
I have never heard of an aftermarket oil pan for a non performance build, that’s horrible.
@Grem135
@Grem135 Год назад
My 2006 Silverado 1500 used a quart every 3000 miles new and was using a quart every 2000 by 25,000miles.. I never had a car/used that much before. My 2016 F150 has 60,000 miles now and it's still full at 7500 mile oil changes and I tow a 7600lb travel trailer with it several times a year.
@Johnnyscarcarereviews
@Johnnyscarcarereviews Год назад
Issue: Some 2018-2020 F-150 vehicles equipped with a 5.0L engine may exhibit excessive oil consumption of greater than 1L (1 quart) in 4,800 km (3,000 mi) with no visible oil leaks. This may be due to high intake manifold vacuum during some deceleration fuel shut off (DFSO) events resulting in oil being pulled into the combustion chamber from the crankcase, valve guides, and positive crankcase ventilation (PCV). To correct the condition, follow the Service Procedure steps to reprogram the powertrain control module (PCM), install a new engine oil level indicator and change the engine oil and oil filter. The revised PCM calibration reduces engine vacuum during some DFSO events.
@jasonbrushett2005
@jasonbrushett2005 Год назад
This doesn't always work. It's a design flaw with the cylinder material, many 5.0 engines need replacing
@normalchristian3963
@normalchristian3963 Год назад
MY2020 LM6 with 40k miles uses 1qt between oil changes of 7500 miles. Mainly highway driving at 70mph or less.
@BigTruckBigRV
@BigTruckBigRV Год назад
I'm totally going to check mine to compare to your results! Very similar miles on my truck. Climate will definitely be a factor I'm imagining.
@skidwilliams9451
@skidwilliams9451 Год назад
I have been watching your videos too. I have the f150 3.0 diesel and love it. Wish Ford didn’t cancel it.
@gsguy9359
@gsguy9359 Год назад
I have a 2022 that I didn’t take delivery on until first of November. I have 4k on the clock now and oil is still on top hash mark. I don’t think they all use oil and yes I watch your channel also!
@Jc-bo1uu
@Jc-bo1uu Год назад
No that is not the correct way to check your oil. Check the oil 1st thing in the morning before you start it up. And then after that, let the truck get up to operating temperature and then let it sit for approximately 2 to 3 minutes and then check it again. If you start it up (“COLD”) the oil is thicker win oil is cold and you will check the oil and it will show low because it takes a lot longer for the oil to come back to the pan when the engine is cold. It gives you a higher risk of a false oil level reading and you possibly overfilling your engine with oil and could cause damage.
@jlerma7826
@jlerma7826 11 месяцев назад
if your truck came with one quart over the full mark, and 2400 miles later its at half quart low. it seems like the oil consumptions is more than expected.
@adamweber7978
@adamweber7978 Год назад
That pickup should have a storage compartment to hold 2 gallons of make up oil. It’s obviously going to need it.
@fxnytroxtxFPP
@fxnytroxtxFPP Год назад
It is settled then, 5w30 it is!!! You should try running 5w30 and see the difference in oil consumption, I bet it will be noticeably different vs the 0w20 piss
@BrianKrahmer
@BrianKrahmer Год назад
void your warranty from not using the specified oil, great idea!
@markman7
@markman7 Год назад
I'm wondering how the change from aluminum pistons on the LM2 to steel pistons on the LZ0 is going to play out. Steel piston on LZ0 is shorter than LM2 probably due to weight. I think the rod is longer too which pushes the wrist pin closer to the top.
@soota6083
@soota6083 Год назад
What does that do?
@OddBallPerformance
@OddBallPerformance Год назад
They were made out of steel so they could be made smaller while not crumbling apart. Tiny weight penalty, but it also allows them to run a longer rod for a better rod ratio, and that means less side loading on the cylinders and more power transfer to the crank. less wear and better power.
@screddot7074
@screddot7074 Год назад
In my Corvair, I would put a quart of oil in and then check the oil. Every morning.
@kylemlm
@kylemlm Год назад
That saved me not buying buying Suburban diesel. Written in blk & white you can't complain at dealer.
@Land_Raver
@Land_Raver Год назад
My last 3.0 diesel held 10.5 quarts.
@jflowers090
@jflowers090 Год назад
Any oil consumption is to much on a brand new vehicle. Idc what the manufacturer says this isn't normal. You should drain your oil at oil change interval and measure what you have left. So at 1qt per 2000 miles. Your saying at 8,000 miles your gonna burn 4qt of oil? That is absolutely insane for this to be "nornal".
@nathanriggins5271
@nathanriggins5271 Год назад
Toyota, had issues with their 2.4 4cl that drank oil. We had a rav4 that would go through 4qts in between oil changes.
@lyleswavel320
@lyleswavel320 Год назад
I know a man that threw his valve cover cap away and screw in funnel, when engine went to clattering he threw in 4 quarts
@5thavenue517
@5thavenue517 Год назад
I know not a truck but I have a 2010 Kia Sportage with 2.7 ltr V6 . Change oil every 10,000 Klm with Super Tech 5W20 Synthetic oil and never have to add between changes . Might be down 1/2 quart . Presently has 621,000 klms on it .
@acevent5759
@acevent5759 Год назад
It seems like the costs associated with owning this truck outweighs the gas mileage boost
@BrianKrahmer
@BrianKrahmer Год назад
fair enough. i have a 2021 Sierra LM2. price per mile for fuel is higher, but the way i look at it is that i am still getting better mileage and therefore polluting less CO2 per mile. i, for example, also live at over 9000', so a turbo is a requirement to get decent performance and be able to tow. my 2000 Silverado with the 5.3 couldn't even hold 4th gear on a flat at 10,000' if the wind was blowing!
@bantizzle79
@bantizzle79 Год назад
Yikes... better keep a case of oil in the truck.
@PKDesigns2011
@PKDesigns2011 Год назад
... lol now that I think about it, GM is actually thinking about the end user, I mean look at it this way, you wont need to shell out the hefty price for regular oil service ... you just keep adding every 1,000 to 2,000 miles
@PKDesigns2011
@PKDesigns2011 Год назад
but all joking aside I still like the truck ( test drove one the other day back to back with V8 and 4cyl ) and was really impressed about this motor.
@fredwalker839
@fredwalker839 Год назад
@@PKDesigns2011 OK,,, all joking aside also,,,, have you “EVER” heard of a manufacturer “ add one for the road ? I’ve bought +/- 20 new GM ‘s over my life,,,,,, never have one “for the road!” Was going to order my Retirement 3.0 Silverado,,,not now,,, my last 5 Duramax Chev’s drank 1/2 every 10L oil change ! Something smells rotten in Denmark,, from the Get- Go ! Why now ! Soon to go boom, just like the early 3.0L Rams !
@BM-cz1xb
@BM-cz1xb Год назад
All newer Chevy trucks consume oil . It’s a design flaw with the piston rings or the cylinder walls or both .
@Mittencarpentry
@Mittencarpentry Год назад
The oil consumption numbers are maximum… as in we won’t replace your engine unless it exceeds this amount. Doesn’t mean that they WILL use oil. Just covering their butts on engine replacements. Have almost 50k on 2 LM2’s. They haven’t been using oil.
@craigvanloy6919
@craigvanloy6919 Год назад
I have a 21 Silverado LM2 mine stopped using oil after my first oil change at 5k miles. I now have 22k miles and tow a 34 foot travel trailer in the summer and still didn't use any oil.
@tycotoys
@tycotoys Год назад
I hate vehicles that burn excessive oil, no excuse for it unless your towing heavy loads at higher speeds. My L5P Duramax burns a half quart of oil between 5K mi oil changes, even when towing. I find this totally acceptable? But 2-3 quarts between changes is totally unacceptable. I was really interested in this truck with the 3.0 Duramax but not now, I had oil burners in the past, a 2013 Honda Accord and a 1988 Chevy Blazer, both GM and Honda refuse to fix the problem so no more Honda's, GM on the other hand has other vehicles that interest me.
@jackjones3433
@jackjones3433 Год назад
You stated that this truck is not using much oil yet based on the statement provided by GM, it has in fact, used 1.5 quarts. Your oil level check revealed the engine is .5 quarts low and with the 1.0 quart overfill, that is a lot of oil usage for a brand new engine. Sounds like another GM engine issue they are trying to talk there way out of.
@MegaDysart
@MegaDysart Год назад
Jesus. I have a 97 chevy k1500, it's always burned oil since I got it and I sometimes have to change the plugs on #6 and #4 because they get fouled, have no plans of fixing it because it's a cheap truck. It burns a little less than 1 qt every 2k miles. I guess it's actually brand new! Sweet.
@dannyiannuzzi182
@dannyiannuzzi182 Год назад
I don't know if that's gonna work if the oil Pan is wider it might work but if it's deeper the oil pick up is not gonna be in its place where it needs to be and those 2 Extra quarts of oil isn't gonna matter
@shutupstoopid4518
@shutupstoopid4518 Год назад
Took the Sulphur out of the fuel gotta get it back some where
@bret9741
@bret9741 Год назад
Holy cow…. 1 quart per 2000 miles!!! Shame of GM. That is absolutely not acceptable. I’ve never owned a pickup that has used even 1 qt per oil change!
@06dak69
@06dak69 Год назад
I don’t think the service bulletin says it WILL use that much oil, it just says that much oil loss is considered “normal”. Which every company says the same thing - I think Chrysler even went down to 750mi/qt at one time when they had the crappy minivan V6s in the Wranglers. It would be interesting to see if you do burn oil, though that might be difficult to really notice if you’re going to install that aftermarket pan.
@wjgrandcherokee
@wjgrandcherokee Год назад
I was a GM auto tech for 15 years at a small GMC Buick dealer. I can't tell you how many pistons and rings I did on 5.3 liter and 2.4 liter engines. GM has always considered 1 quart every 2000 miles (within range). I have a 2011 Tacoma with 130,000 miles on it that maybe burns 1/4 a quart in 3 to 4 thousand miles.
@dougsmith7195
@dougsmith7195 Год назад
I had a 2008 Tacoma for 10 years, front pads and changed the oil, that’s it, best truck ever.
@sly9263
@sly9263 Год назад
GM also has a history of leaky rear mains
@kwmiked
@kwmiked Год назад
Some burn oil some don't. All depends on the type of piston and ring used and even the bore clearance does to the cross hatch. Big Diesels will use a gal in 10k mi around a 100k mi they stop using oil and roughly use 1/2gal or less in 10k mi
@jrwstl02
@jrwstl02 Год назад
Hmmm. My ‘16 Tahoe 5.3 uses no oil in 7,000 mile oil change interval. It only has 134,000 mi though. My 09 Tahoe had 190,000 mi and was using about 1/2 quart in 7,000 mi when we sold it to a family member. It has 330,000 on it now, still original engine and transmission, no issues.
@kwmiked
@kwmiked Год назад
@@jrwstl02 it's a has motor with half the compression 🤦‍♂️
@josephharvey5742
@josephharvey5742 Год назад
I change my oil on my 2021 LM2 at the dealership every 5,000 miles and it isn't using any oil between changes. I check the oil on the dipstick after the truck sits overnight and it's always on the full mark.
@xzibito187
@xzibito187 Год назад
It seems that all modern trucks now are poorly built with ridiculous price tags, you would expect better for the price.
@Rick-co4hm
@Rick-co4hm 10 месяцев назад
this is great you need a case of motor oil in the trunk and oil filter ,when reach 5000 miles change the filter , oil never get old all way is fresh
@terrypasquali1
@terrypasquali1 Год назад
GM is not saying the truck will use 1 at per 2000 miles but could.
@kenm4215
@kenm4215 Год назад
Burning that much oil in an emissions engine is a recipe for disaster. I know after an issue with a 15 liter Cummins using what they said was “in spec”. It trashs the doc, sensors and the dpf. Puts soot in the oil, plugs the oil filter and finally after just 320,000 miles a complete overhaul, which is way below normal for a class 8 truck.
@mattcrawford2894
@mattcrawford2894 Год назад
A friend of mine had bought a Chevy traverse it was using oil he took it back to the dealer and they told him the exact same thing you just said for that engine so apparently that's GM's thing across the board
@danwaldner5311
@danwaldner5311 Год назад
Hi Tim. Do the research. All diesel engines consumers engine oil.
@ramoncollazo1221
@ramoncollazo1221 Год назад
Last year i did the oil pan upgrade ,it was super hard to do ,having a 4x4 truck makes everything so impossible and time consuming,but that was my goal making sure i had enough oil when towing my rv.
@screwcabshlongbox
@screwcabshlongbox Год назад
You had to put a bigger oil pan on to pull your camper? On a new truck? Ouch...
@regdavenport3715
@regdavenport3715 Год назад
Thats insane. Gonna plug up the DPF in no time from the additives that dont burn off. Junk. Glad i went with the 6.6
@adamharriger5193
@adamharriger5193 Год назад
Whether GM says it’s normal or not this would still be a deal breaker for me. I average 20-25k miles a year with 10k or so of that towing our rv. It’s not a massive rv so a 1/2 ton is fine, but I can’t imagine having to add oil 1-2 times a month. My current ‘21 F150 with the 3.5 Ecoboost might loose 1/2 a quart over a 7500 mile oil change interval. Adding an aftermarket oil pan is fine, but imo a mfg selling a truck that can’t make an oil change interval at regular service let alone severe use without adding oil is bs.
@fredwalker839
@fredwalker839 Год назад
100% ! After me owning 5 Duramax Chev’s, I am to retire, that was what I was to buy,,,,,,,NOT NOW !
@BrianKrahmer
@BrianKrahmer Год назад
they don't all do it. it's just their cop-out
@toddkovalcik332
@toddkovalcik332 Год назад
@@BrianKrahmer I agree, I'm sure they don't all do it, but it really sucks when your truck uses that much oil.
@jackoalltrades5708
@jackoalltrades5708 Год назад
My instinct tells me to switch to a heavier oil like 15w40 ..... the oil thats in from factory is sourced from the lowest bidder
@MrChadx1
@MrChadx1 Год назад
That will void your warranty and risk improper lubrication to tight-tolerance areas engineered for a light weight oil. Engines are designed for specific oils. It's not reasonable to use the wrong weight oil, well outside the of the recommended specs, and expect a better outcome.
@daves1646
@daves1646 Год назад
Wow, up to 1 quart/1000 when towing??? My past and current trucks have been miserly with engine oil. My 2016 EcoDiesel 3L turbo diesel consistently used an UNDETECTABLE amount of oil when I towed my family travel trailer in-state (400 mile each way) and on longer multi-state trips. It used 10W-40 though. My current truck for towing a larger travel trailer, '21 Nissan Titan XD, 5.6L gasoline, 0W-20 oil) used one half of a quart last summer over 3500 miles towing, the 2500 miles sightseeing and another 1000 miles between trailer trips. And there were days into the head-wind that were HARD towing. I was (happily) surprised at how little oil the Titan used. Maybe GM is setting an expectation for 'worst case consumption' ?
@BrianKrahmer
@BrianKrahmer Год назад
apparently some do, but i did thousands of miles of towing (2k-8k#) on my previous oil change (2021 LM2 Sierra), with no detectable loss of oil
@waynehawkins9090
@waynehawkins9090 Год назад
My 21 Silverado with the 3.0l used only half between factory and first oil change.
@toddbunnett640
@toddbunnett640 Год назад
Interesting. I’m on our 5th oil change and other then checking when I leave the dealer I have never checked again lol. Maybe I should start. Your comment about the def fluid. I swear there is something wrong with my truck. I’m burning through 10 L of def a month. My 2017 Cummins burned through 10 L a year.
@Rick-vg2pz
@Rick-vg2pz Год назад
May have dirty EGR valve
@fredwalker839
@fredwalker839 Год назад
It’s like “you have the poops “ you need more toilet paper ! Your engine is burning oil & needs more re-gens to clean ! Thus more DEF fluid ! LOL think of your poor EGR system,,,,soon to plug up,! Watch,,, then,,,, BOOM ! Needs a Motor ! No warranty,,, Driver abuse ! LOL
@grenmastermike
@grenmastermike Год назад
Hey, I can speak to this, and you don't want to put the new oil pan in there. First of all, all engines consume oil to a certain degree. The oil control rings always miss a bit of oil on the downward stroke of the piston, that oil is therefore left on the cylinder walls during the combustion event, atomized/burned, and exhausted (totally normal). Oil is also atomized/aerasolized in the crank case during high RPM events due to splash off of the crankshaft/valvetrain moving more quickly. This atomized oil is moved via the PCV system into the intake air stream and ends up in the combustion chamber again being sent through the exhaust. The third way oil is consumed is this, it literally evaporates under extreme heat. Oil exposed to high heats will "steam" not boil, but it will definitely go from liquid to gas. Oil exposed to the bottom of the pistons via the piston squirters will definitely do this because it is being used to cool an extremely hot surface. This oil vapor will leave the engine via PCV intake stream yadda yadda. As to the larger oil pan, I would definitely suggest you do NOT do that. Greater oil capacity means a longer warm up period for the oil in your engine. Warmer oil is thinner and better suited to the cleaning function that oil is designed to accomplish than cooler oil. The oil pump has to work harder to move cooler oil (and remember, these oil pumps are driven by a belt that has a lifespan). This is a small engine that has been engineered to within an inch of it's tolerances to punch way above it's class. It will consume oil, and probably coolant, just do the right thing. Check your oil once a month when you're filling with diesel and everything will be fine.
@MarkSmith-cz3by
@MarkSmith-cz3by Год назад
So we know for sure GM is adding an extra quart of oil straight from the factory, raising the oil level above, the full mark on the dipstick which, by the way, is less than ideal. So based on what you’re saying about extra oil being bad due to longer heat up time, you may want to give General Motors a call and let them know. On the other hand, I would rather have more oil in my engine any day of the week rather than less oil even if it takes a few more minutes to heat up the additional oil. Remember GM already uses super thin 0W-20 oil which is just slightly thicker than diesel fuel.
@grenmastermike
@grenmastermike Год назад
@@MarkSmith-cz3by they add more than the level fill because the initial break in miles always result in burned oil as the freshly hones cylinder walls are scraped down. In fact the oil that the vehicle comes with from the factory isn't the 0w20 that you buy to put in it. It is a mineral based oil that allows greater contact between all metal-metal contact points (of course providing adequate film strength to properly lubricate gallery bearing points like main/rod bearings or hydraulic lifters). The oil that comes out of the engine on the first oil change is green and glittery.
@NoName-tz5ji
@NoName-tz5ji Год назад
Thinner oils and lower tension oil control rings,what could possibly go wrong?😂
@codwilson40
@codwilson40 Год назад
When a diesel is broken in. It should not use any oil unless the rings are bad.
@terryelson5396
@terryelson5396 Год назад
Oil consumption in new automobiles seems to be the new normal. If the car burns/uses 1qt 2qt 3qt per 1000mi a service bulletin comes out saying that's normal. I would be concerned with the dpf getting plugged sooner with all the oil being brunt. I would also try a 0w30 or 5w30 oil to see if that would help.
@willstoneman8056
@willstoneman8056 Год назад
Tim, I did some research on the Dexos "D" for diesel oil. It's a 0w-20 weight full synthetic motor oil. To me, that's just wrong for a new diesel engine. In the first place, using a synthetic oil was never recommended for a new diesel engine until it has 15,000 miles on conventional oil. The purpose of this was to give the rings a chance to properly seat before changing to a full synthetic oil. Then we have the whole 0w-20 oil. That is also just wrong. Diesel weight oil should be 15w-40 for conventional oil or 5w-40 for synthetic. Using the Dexos D oil in that engine is going to prolong the time it takes for the engine to wear in properly and the light weight of that oil is going to cause increase oil consumption. Given this oil, I can see why owners are reporting problems. If it were my engine, I'd switch it out to a good conventional 15w-40 diesel oil for the first 15,000 miles and then make the switch to a 5w-40 synthetic oil. Of course, this would likely void your engine warranty. That's how I broke in my Ford diesel engine and it currently has 310,000 miles on it here in the frozen north and runs perfect with no oil consumption between 5000 mile oil change intervals!
@scox7760
@scox7760 Год назад
I hope GM did not switch to low tension rings like Toyota did. If so I would expect increased consumption with higher weight oil.
@StanB284
@StanB284 Год назад
You have no idea where machining is currently at....stop thinking like it is still 1982.
@willstoneman8056
@willstoneman8056 Год назад
@@StanB284 - Stan, start thinking. What is the compression ratio in a modern diesel engine? How does that compression ratio relate to increased stress on the rotational components of a diesel engine? How does a light weight oil handle that additional stress? Please answer in detail.
@josephcaron6904
@josephcaron6904 Год назад
damn!! just when I was convinced this would be my next engine.. Very disappointing
@thomasinphoenix
@thomasinphoenix 6 месяцев назад
The duramax manual says to wait at least two hours to check the oil level after shutdown.
@jasonwoody8041
@jasonwoody8041 8 месяцев назад
I have been thinking about getting the diesel denali however if i have to keep oil and DEF ready to go then i guess i just stick to gas.
@RK777PL
@RK777PL Год назад
I got Lexus GX I throw trailers with it ATVs snowmobiles things like that I don't burn any oil one explanation was build on the different quality restrictions in Japan
@michaelfrye6818
@michaelfrye6818 Год назад
Hello Tim, I would appreciate on your next video if you would correct your statement concerning oil consumption? The service bulletin you referenced what was for an accepted usage for warranty purposes. Your statement was the engine is going to use oil which is incorrect. I am just thinking of people watching this video who are on the fence about buying this product. They may not purchase one now knowing it going to use oil. I have a 2020 model 3 liter diesel and it does not use any oil between oil changes. My oil change interval is 5,000 miles. Also I have a 2020 3 liter diesel engine manual which shows correct way to check the oil. Not sure what the newer models have or if they even have engine manuals?
@joeparker7508
@joeparker7508 Год назад
That baby rides rough seats are hard,try the ford judge for yourself.Havent sit in Tundra
@marc0110j
@marc0110j Год назад
If you are trading in a 1975 Chevy Vega then you will know that oil consumption is "normal". GM started the latest "normal consumption" story to try and hide the consumption of the Eco Tech 2.4 l in 2010 Equinox/Terrain and similar SUVs. This engine was originally supposed to use conventional oil but they hurriedly changed the manuals and specifications to synthetic mid-year. This didn't help and complaints and engine failures continued through the 2013 model year. There were several recalls and class action suits over oil consumption in the 2.4. It might be normal for the 3.0 to consume oil but GM has lost all credibility with previous attempts to hide underlying problems.
@jameswindham3959
@jameswindham3959 Год назад
I'm a believer that oil loss on a new broke-in engine is not the norm. All these auto manufacturers are doing everything they can to increase fuel mileage. At best their predictions for mileage numbers are mostly a joke when it comes to real world driving. The fact that most companies are using these low tension rings for horsepower and fuel mileage is futile. One the horsepower would only be slightly noticeable on a dyno and not felt by the seat of your pants. The fact that oil is going out the tailpipe adds up to a huge problem with carbon build up in the combustion chamber and downstream emissions equipment. Take the vvt system and or fuel management systems. They present numerous problems and for what trips to the dealership for repairs with the same crap that failed in the first place.
@garycampbell7999
@garycampbell7999 Год назад
👑 you the man! Sounds like some good, but bad info. A must know stuff.
@WadeSmart
@WadeSmart Год назад
As I listen to this on the oil - thinking about ALL the things you had to find out yourself on your Tundra, maybe the owners manual needs to be 2 parts: the initial - need to know and then the rest - need to know over time. Something.... because when you look at all the vehicles with pretty thick books with each car - they are not getting into peoples hands necessary info.
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