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Is Oil Dilution Still a Problem for Honda CR-V & Civic? | Exploring the Issue & Debunking the Myths 

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Does the 1.5L Turbo GDI engine in the Honda CR-V and Honda Civic still suffer from abnormal oil dilution? In this video, we take a deep dive into the issue of oil dilution and see what normal and abnormal oil dilution looks like. We also talk about the fixes/repairs that Honda issued for the 2017-2018 CR-V and 2016-2018 Civic, the extended powertrain warranty, causes of abnormal oil dilution (extreme cold, short trips) and if the 2019/2020 models are fixed. We hope you find the video informative!
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@RJ-vb7gh
@RJ-vb7gh 4 года назад
I've been driving and working on cars for a very long time and oil dilution isn't normal.... period - full stop. And just saying it is, doesn't make it so! And I'm getting really tired of companies fixing mechanical problems by simply re-defining the word "normal". Like a friend that just had his head gaskets replaced on his Subaru... and strangely enough he told me it was "normal" for Subarus to need head gasket replacement... NO! Blowing head gaskets are NOT normal! Oil dilution is NOT normal! It's due to poor design, cheap parts or poor build quality. If you are going to take your customer's hard earned money engines that run right and transmissions that shift right should be the only thing normal about them for at least the first hundred to two hundred thousand miles...
@shocksemler8145
@shocksemler8145 4 года назад
@RJ THANK YOU!!!! Well said. I need you to go to the dealership with me so you can tell them this!! I’m so tired of hearing that the excessive oil dilution is normal.
@RJ-vb7gh
@RJ-vb7gh 4 года назад
@@shocksemler8145 Sadly, I doubt that your dealer can fix the problem, which seems to be inherent in the design... so when they say it's normal, they mean normal for that particular model.. Very likely, all you can do is to sell that headache to some unsuspecting fool and get yourself a car that's designed and built right. It's unfair and unjust, but when you buy a lemon you usually lose. That's the way it's always been. My rule with loser cars is to get out from under them before they eat you. Bad usually becomes worse over time. Best luck.
@clarencewhite6053
@clarencewhite6053 4 года назад
I AGREE...I CANT ARGUE WITH THAT.
@shocksemler8145
@shocksemler8145 4 года назад
@ RJ Thank you. You are right.
@joemarchand8313
@joemarchand8313 4 года назад
@R J: Speaking of potential lemons, I have a 2014 Nissan Altima, original owner, 35k miles. I baby it. I’m sure you’re aware of the CVT issues in these cars, so I’m wondering your thoughts, as to whether I should keep it or sell it. It runs great, no issues with the transmission or anything else mechanically to date. Maintenance is up to date.
@mikenone4077
@mikenone4077 4 года назад
Why can't we just go back to regular fuel injection? just to save 1-2 mpg is ridiculous. You will spend more on repairs then you save on gas.
@Believe231
@Believe231 4 года назад
@Jeff Sol I agree, my '99 Camry is one of those sweet spot vehicles. It was like winning the lottery when I found it with low miles! It's been 7 years now since I bought it and I've just hit 123K miles on it! It's my only vehicle and I drive it everywhere, even though it's now 21 years old!
@valdius85
@valdius85 4 года назад
@Jeff Sol There are engines with both port & direct injection on the market. Still I want to avoid DI and CVT.
@SCraig-Handsome
@SCraig-Handsome 4 года назад
You would need to bring back carburetors and they would fail emissions tests. We eliminated them in the 80’s, also the mechanical ones were replaced by electronic ones. Basically we still use electronic but they are more efficient now. They are also easier to maintain. I had a fuel injection problem with every car except Honda, the carbon buildup is no longer an issue due to VTEC and GDI. It actually has to do with the tumble flow and valve angle. Basically the valve is still down when the gas mist flows through the chamber so there is still some valve cleaning that is being done. At the end of the day though it’s really the driver that determines carbon buildup or really anything related to car longevity
@valdius85
@valdius85 4 года назад
@@SCraig-Handsome Some VW mechanics says that it is possible to slow down carbon buildup but not eliminate it in VAG engines. Toyota has a D4-S, both port and DI. I do not think there is any valid excuse for carbon buildup from car manufacturers. The dilution in Honda is caused by low friction (loos) piston rings. Again, reliability taking a hit for decent numbers on the brochures.
@SCraig-Handsome
@SCraig-Handsome 4 года назад
Waldemar Ishibashi had Toyota’s for 20 years, switched to Honda and no repairs since, had 2 Siennas with fuel injection problems around 110,000. Always had to get injection service with them, very reliable overall but not as reliable as Honda. Service is a lot more expensive, same with Hyundai, no repair issues so far but higher maintenance than Honda or Toyota. Honda is just better at building engines and Toyota is higher risk due to innovation. Honda will wait to do more research before putting new stuff into the hands of consumers. VW I have never owned one but really hard to find now due to emissions problems
@parkland4530
@parkland4530 4 года назад
As a owner of a 2018 Honda CRV in a cold climate and having all the updates done including the last which involves an interior warmer, further programing changes, a circulating coolant heater of sorts and some kind of change to coolant flow I do feel that the cabin heat and oil dilution issues are improved. Not fixed but improved. Though ambient temperatures in my part of the world have not been severely cold my oil level runs about 1/8" above full which is no where near the 5/8" it was at the beginning. Now with the use of the interior warmer on cold start I turn the heater fan and the temperature setting on low. The warmer, heated seats and wheel has made the cab bearable and possibly due to the other changes, the engine warms up much quicker especially when it does not have to heat the heater core as well. As soon as the indicator is solidly in the gauge I turn up the temperature and put it on auto. Yes I will pay a bit more on my power bill but it is more comfortable. You refer to short trips being a factor but realize that it has to run for a long period after it reaches temperature to vaporize any gas in the crank case. In my experience 10 mile trips is not enough and long road trips have not lowered the high oil level much. Not happy about having to change the oil more often to extend engine life. Just thought I would share. No more Hondas for me.
@clarencewhite6053
@clarencewhite6053 4 года назад
i cant blame you ...if thats the case thank god i dont have any issues with my crv...not yet anyway but, i use my remote start to give the engine time to warm up. Any issues crop up like that on mine.....i am TRADING IT PERIOD, I WONT TAKE CHANCES.
@karlschauff7989
@karlschauff7989 2 года назад
That much fuel going into the engine oil is still a serious issue. Diluting the oil with gasoline, which is not a good lubricant, will cause accelerated wear or damage to the bearings, cam journals, and other components inside the engine. That unburned fuel is also washing oil off the cylinder walls, causing accelerated wear of the cylinder bores, piston rings, piston skirts, etc. The engine will begin to burn excessive oil as the wear worsens. The worst part is that if the engine already has an issue with excessive oil dilution, that unburned fuel in the oil will mask an oil consumption problem because the oil level on the dipstick won't appear to be moving. You might even think the oil dilution issue was "fixed" by Honda or just went away on its own. However, if you were to send that oil to a lab that does used oil analysis, it will come back as having an excessively high amount of fuel in the oil --- your engine burned 3 quarts of oil in 5,000 miles, but the engine dumped 3 quarts of unburned fuel into the oil so the level on the dipstick never changed. Your engine would have ran on a 50-50 oil/gasoline mixture.... yikes.
@chih6654
@chih6654 4 года назад
If you had to get a Cr-V, find a 2019 or older model with the 2.4L. I am genuinely disappointed by Honda because they used to make great cars. Several issues that I have personally encountered: Around 2010, they switched their paint to shitty water-based paint and all the models from that era were affected. Honda expects people to park their cars in the garage, as a result, only garage-kept Honda's would avoid the paint de-lamination. Not everyone has access to park a car in the garage. Honda knew about the paint issue, and would only offer recalls on popular/expensive models. The dealership also knew about the issue, and they stated that they were not fixing it. (My fiancé has a 2011 Honda Fit in blue, and the paint on the roof started fading in 2015) Oil dilution is not normal, so stop calling it normal.
@davrontosh7657
@davrontosh7657 2 года назад
totally agree. Stop calling abnormal things normal. Whats going on with USA???
@Dima1415
@Dima1415 2 года назад
@@davrontosh7657 business
@karlschauff7989
@karlschauff7989 2 года назад
@@davrontosh7657 It's an issue that affects these brands that people just assume are rock-solid reliable based on past vehicles. Companies like Honda and Toyota have been given a pass for so long that they started letting quality decline and brushed serious issues under the rug. My wife and I have owned a few 2010+ Hondas and Toyotas and the experience has been very eye opening. Quality and reliability have really slid. My new Tacoma was a total lemon - transmission problems, engine stalling issues, electrical gremlins, misaligned truck bed, hood fluttering in the wind, rear differential howling so loud I could hear it over the radio, etc. My wife's CRV was similarly plagued with issues including the crankcase flooding with gasoline.
@RagingBad
@RagingBad 2 года назад
@@karlschauff7989 imagine the other brands, Toyota still the benchmark on reliability all over the world
@pleco101
@pleco101 Год назад
I suppose I'm lucky to be still driving a 2007 Accord. Paint seems fine. Aside from the rusty areas.
@ozarklife9996
@ozarklife9996 4 года назад
Saying the engine oil level will rise past the full mark is normal is nuts.....
@TheCompyshop
@TheCompyshop 4 года назад
Ozark Life Not really, I’ve seen it across many brands. I work in a shop
@barryeason749
@barryeason749 4 года назад
So if the oil levels “rises” above maximum levels due to fuel in oil, I’m sure that the oil seals would be under major stress and could rupture and blow should pressures rise under high RPM’s.
@Flagrum3
@Flagrum3 4 года назад
You should listen a little closer as he never stated that. What he said is that oil dilution is normal for any engine and that is a fact. What I'll add is that with a normal engine it is very, very slight to almost negligible. So not even noticeable.
@justinweaver7553
@justinweaver7553 4 года назад
@@TheCompyshop not really, I have a shop and most vehicles are the opposite, I did see this on several CR-V but in cold climate, Honda has a problem here. I know of a guy who had his bought back, at first Honda had him come in every 2 weeks for oil change and when they came up with the first "fix" it would still be an inch above the full mark in 2 weeks, stalled out, lemon buy back. But "normal" sure
@noroar3258
@noroar3258 4 года назад
whats disturbing to me is the amount of youtubers with the 1.5 crv that have fairly long commutes to work (20 miles each way) or who go on a long road trip that still report high levels above the full line . So that theory kinda goes out the window
@mikepayne3154
@mikepayne3154 4 года назад
Nice that you covered a subject most hosts would shy away from. A plus in your rating.
@CarConfections
@CarConfections 4 года назад
Thank you! It's certainly controversial!
@MichaelCzajka
@MichaelCzajka Год назад
The trouble with fuel dilution is that it breaks down the lubricating film that separates the metal parts... making it more likely that you'll see scoring up and down the bores. Even small amounts of fuel in the oil seem to result in scoring of the bores as it's a common problem in many different direct injected vehicles... as they age. 😞
@davidleung1119
@davidleung1119 4 года назад
dont think changing oil more frequently is an acceptable fix
@davidleung1119
@davidleung1119 4 года назад
@Anubisavi He said She said
@TechDealz
@TechDealz 4 года назад
Anubisavi RAV4 has 16,000 km change interval
@kttangos2871
@kttangos2871 4 года назад
Beware is all im gona say!! And i love Honda but refuse to buy crap!👍
@Lucky8s
@Lucky8s 4 года назад
@Anubisavi Unless you're using conventional motor oil, which is rare in modern cars, there's no need to change the oil after just 5,000 kms. It's both wasteful resource-wise and financially. Synthetic blend is safe to use under normal conditions for up to 8,000 kms or 6 months. Full synthetic goes up to 12,000-15,000 kms or 1 year.
@ram89572
@ram89572 4 года назад
@@Lucky8s believe that marketing bs if you want. I'd rather spend the extra money on oil rather than a new engine. Auto manufacturers have an incentive for you to wear your engine out in 150k miles so believing them just because they say it means nothing.
@market.weasel
@market.weasel 4 года назад
I know a CR-V owner who told me that the fix was ECU programming to direct the heat to the engine instead of cabin that makes the inside of the car stay cold until engine warms up, and extension of the warranty 1 year, which is ridiculous in my opinion. In fact China told Honda to stop selling cars with this engine until issue is completely resolved, something that will never happen here, because of business interests and lobbying.
@Lucky8s
@Lucky8s 4 года назад
The engine is supposed to restrict coolant flow when it's cold so that it can reach operating temperatures faster. It's normal.
@clarencewhite6053
@clarencewhite6053 4 года назад
yea chinas laws and hondas are different because they have different engines. Yea, china knows how to eat their young but they dont no deffective cars on their roads. chop chop.
@Lucky8s
@Lucky8s 4 года назад
@@clarencewhite6053 I'm going to give you an opportunity to rethink your comment.
@marklynch3149
@marklynch3149 2 года назад
I think China has got a nerve.. Every machine they build falls to pieces 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
@dominicfischio851
@dominicfischio851 9 месяцев назад
it is NOT normal. just cuz honda says it does not make it true. no car i’ve ever had has had any ool dilution. zero.
@CarConfections
@CarConfections 4 года назад
BEFORE YOU YELL AT US BELOW.... We are impartial towards oil dilution. This video is intended to INFORM and takes into account both what CR-V owners and Honda say about the issue. We're not paid by Honda, but we just wanted to provide some clarity into the situation since it concerns a lot of viewers.
@FrankySilverFace
@FrankySilverFace 4 года назад
Car Confections You didn't mention the oil itself or more specifically the additive pkg is being redesigned to be less prone to dilution. This new 0w16 oil is being referred to 0w16b. Also the oil dilution problem in the Honda turbo engine is (rumoured) to be caused by slightly smaller pistons and rings being used to reduce internal friction resulting in better fuel mileage. Has this specific issue been addressed by manufacturers? That is a question no one seems to be answering.
@f181234
@f181234 4 года назад
I LIKE LOUD SPEAKERS 0w-16 isn’t new that’s been around since the 90s
@FrankySilverFace
@FrankySilverFace 4 года назад
f181234 the new oil I was referring too is not out til mid year 2020. Its a re formulated additive pkg. I thought I had made that clear in my original post. Sorry for the confusion.
@matty_o
@matty_o 4 года назад
I LIKE LOUD SPEAKERS you should edit your post because that oil 0w16 been out for years
@henryhonda8408
@henryhonda8408 4 года назад
If you read carefully he says 0w16b and NOT 0w16..... it's been redesigned/upgraded
@ontarioobserver1287
@ontarioobserver1287 4 года назад
I live in Ontario Canada and have a 17 CRV 1.5 litre...The fix corrected the problem and I have no issues....I presently have 62000 kms on the car.
@jkdckismlo
@jkdckismlo 4 года назад
Very informative! We have a 2018 CRV and a 2018 Civic. We live in the south and drive on the highway to work everyday so I haven’t seen any problems. Good info, you did a great job explaining it.
@w.a.holland2239
@w.a.holland2239 3 года назад
Have you pulled your dip stick at regular intervals. and checked for over fill ,and smelled the stick for gasoline? If not, I suggest you get in a regular habit of doing so about ever 1,000 miles . My understanding is before the mileage reaches 70,000 miles due to the gasoline diluting the oil ,serious problems develop. Sorry !
@johnfranklin5277
@johnfranklin5277 2 года назад
Yes, if I had that vehicle I would definitely pull the dipstick, check the level, and definitely snif the dipstick every 2 weeks.
@3pumps324
@3pumps324 4 года назад
I have an 04 Civic and it's tough as nails. After watching this video I'm going to look at the Mazda 6 as my next purchase even though I was looking at the Accord. Thanks.
@ljpr360
@ljpr360 3 года назад
If you wait for the new Mazda 6, there will be more options such as a plug-in or inline 6. The current generation is very well tested and reliable though!
@MrBua-ht5ro
@MrBua-ht5ro 2 года назад
@@ljpr360 Good luck with that. Research the whining sound they make and Mazda changing out the entire transmission.
@ronkipp1862
@ronkipp1862 4 года назад
Thank you, Your video was the first I've seen, that explains Honda engine oil dilution in detail.
@CarConfections
@CarConfections 4 года назад
Glad you enjoyed!
@larrymacek6849
@larrymacek6849 4 года назад
Ron Kipp, I concur.
@asdfghjqwertyu1858
@asdfghjqwertyu1858 4 года назад
I bought the 2020 Civic with the 2L, since it is not only the engine that does not mix oil and gas, but this K-series VTEC engine is a multi-point (port injected) engine. I do not have to worry about carbon buildup like on the 1.5 turbo. For anyone deciding on a new Civic, I personally think you should still avoid the 1.5 if you are expecting typical honda reliability and go to competitors like the Corolla or Mazda 3, but the 2L is probably one of the most reliable new cars you can buy.
@ozarklife9996
@ozarklife9996 4 года назад
07 civic coupe with the 1.8 liter. 215000 mile going strong. No cracked engine block yet. Put a bmw float switch in the coolant reservoir to an indicator light in dash just to keep a lookout for slow leaks.
@PLATINUM2U
@PLATINUM2U 4 года назад
That's pretty reasonable
@CJ-ce7xq
@CJ-ce7xq 4 года назад
Honda The Power Of Dreams im pretty sure the 2L engine is direct injected as well
@asdfghjqwertyu1858
@asdfghjqwertyu1858 4 года назад
@@CJ-ce7xq No, Honda's website says the 2L engine is Multi point.
@workharddieproud
@workharddieproud 4 года назад
I’m NEVER buying another Honda, Toyota, Kia, Ford, Chevy, GMC, Lexus, Nissian, Acura, Infiniti, Mazda, Buick, Hyundai, Jeep, Subaru and on and on. You See That Statement ALL over RU-vid and Forums. Guess I’ll have to build my own vehicle just to make sure it will NEVER EVER have ANY problems or break down.
@andybub45
@andybub45 4 года назад
All vehicles have issues, but some (Honda, Jeep) have more issues that others (Toyota, Kia)
@Immortalkalashnikov
@Immortalkalashnikov 3 года назад
@@andybub45 LOL what? Kia over Honda?
@s-kimf.13
@s-kimf.13 3 года назад
@@Immortalkalashnikov hahahaha I was thinking the same thing. Neveeeerrrr.
@mss627
@mss627 4 года назад
First of all, you're giving us the manufacturer's mealy-mouthed explanation of the problem. Second of all, the results of oil dilution probably won't become apparent until well after that six-year warranty expires. Honda needs to extend it to 10 years. Thirdly, auto manufacturers are famous for not honoring warranties on older vehicles (see Ford's dual-clutch issues). And finally, the 1.5-liter turbo is also used in many other Hondas including the Accord. Is this something we should be worried about with every car that uses this engine? Since Honda clearly doesn't want to admit they have a problem, I would suggest avoiding all models with this motor until long term data can be collected. It's really a damn shame. Honda is famous for making reliable, long-lasting vehicles. This is the kind of scandal that can destroy a manufacturer's reputation.
@paulgoldberg179
@paulgoldberg179 3 года назад
I think if Honda does not have a real fix for the engine they need to buy those vehicles back or put in new corrected engines. Expensive for Honda? Yes, of course...but they owe it to the consumers who bought these defective turbo GDI engines.
@tbone-spartacus3357
@tbone-spartacus3357 3 года назад
Well said. They lie a lot.
@ksanchez8095
@ksanchez8095 2 года назад
Exactly. The author of this video is just mindlessly repeating what Honda said. Seriously suggestions like "don't use your vehicle for short trips", "Spend a fortune in frequent oil changes" and so on are straight up BS. And he didn't address the fact that those "fixes" they did on the previous models didn't fix it then, so why would it make a difference now?
@willowbee5851
@willowbee5851 4 месяца назад
Theres the oil dilution and the CVT transmission and head gasket failure rate etc. Walk away!
@ozarklife9996
@ozarklife9996 4 года назад
Checked my nephew's 16 civic. As soon as I popped the hood i could smell the gas. It was over half inch overfilled. It was very thin black runny oil. I advised him to changed the oil immediately. He told me the maintenance minder was only at 60%......... I closed the hood and went inside.... The exact fix for these cars has still hasn't been explained. Honda tells there customer to live it nothing more be done. People really don't understand cars and will probably drive it till it conks out on the highway. Let's see how all this plays out over time. I'll stick with port injection non turbo engine vehicles for now.
@andybub45
@andybub45 4 года назад
Maintinance minder is fake. Planned obsolescence.
@amcdonal86VT
@amcdonal86VT 4 года назад
I had this problem on the 1.5T Accord. At least I had the dipstick that smelled like gas and very overfilled all the time. Sometimes the car would stall or stumble when starting. But I was always able to start it the second time. I was not confident in the car and got rid of it.
@conracewhatever5224
@conracewhatever5224 4 года назад
I wish the Honda (as a whole company) has some balls to say this in public not you guys!
@AYouTubeChannelwithNoName
@AYouTubeChannelwithNoName 4 года назад
The Honda?
@441meatloaf
@441meatloaf 3 года назад
Honda did, they later did admit the 1.5L turbo engine with all these environmental concern is an issue. Hence they extended warranties on all 1.5L turbo owners.......They also acknowledge the fact a lot of the owners are having engine stalling, misfires, and lack of power issues....This is the new generation of problems by sticking a turbocharger while downsizing engine.....The engine of that small just can't handle the amount of engine pressure to compensate for the lack of power.
@raymondali3688
@raymondali3688 3 года назад
@@441meatloaf They should bring back the 2.4L Engine that is not tubrocharger for the crv, accord and the civic as well as to fix their weak automatic transmission!
@441meatloaf
@441meatloaf 3 года назад
@@raymondali3688 Thats not gonna happen anytime soon with the way how emission controls are getting tighter. But at least subaru is still using bigger engines and putting turbos on it like their new 2.4L or mazdas 2.5L turbos.
@raymondali3688
@raymondali3688 3 года назад
@@441meatloaf if emissions controls were tight then why is Toyota still making 2.5L engines as well as v6 and v8 engines
@vincentrolfe1384
@vincentrolfe1384 4 года назад
When listening to this review I started to grin when I heard, "well, the gasoline gets stuck between the piston and the cylinder wall". Sounds very high tech explanation. My 2.7L Diesel turbo has no oil dilution with 10K miles change intervals. With the high compression of this little 1.5L motor, the direct injection, the turbo engaging and some cold temperatures if you buy the Honda at this time you will be in a world of hurt within 5 years. Some drivers like acceleration and the turbo coming in really does the motor no good. I have instructed my daughter to buy the Rav4 with 2.5L and Toyota's combination of port and direct injection with a lower compression and no turbo business. The daughter has a heavy foot on the gas pedal so the Rav4 with 8 speed automatic vs. the Honda CV transmission was the way to go. The Rav4 will get a little better gas mileage than the Honda and probably last way beyond 200K miles. I suggest trading your 1.5L turbo Honda for a different brand at your earliest opportunity. Just face it: the Honda 1.5L turbo motor is a disaster and there is no way out of it so do the trade. There are a few 2.7L Diesel turbo vehicles around Chicago that have 500K miles and one man has 800K miles on his and he buys tires same place as I.
@jackcycling4403
@jackcycling4403 4 года назад
Well, I own a 2018 CR-V with this 1.5 L engine. It has 44000 km on it and I never had any problem with it, It kept 7L / 100 Km since I bought it . Very happy with it.
@ham3749
@ham3749 4 года назад
I was watching another video about the oil dilution, and they were saying the ones with problems are the people who are running the engine cold, and driving a mile or two then shutting the engine off on a regular basis. If you are driving and warming up the engine, especially in cold weather, they haven't had any issues.
@DarrenX9
@DarrenX9 3 года назад
Problems with engine longevity aren't going to show up after 44,000km.
@jackcycling4403
@jackcycling4403 3 года назад
@@DarrenX9 What I meant is that I never had any problems with gas being in my oil. No scent of gas or high oil level.
@thomasejore1714
@thomasejore1714 2 года назад
@@ham3749 am from Kenya,East Africa and I am planning to buy the 2017 honda crv with the 1.5l vtec turbo engine. I live in a hot area with an average temperature of 40 degrees Celsius and it barely rains.So would I be safe if I buy a 2016 or 2017 honda crv with a 1.5l turbo engine?
@AARNI1000
@AARNI1000 4 года назад
who the hell going to buy when there is confusion related to oil dilution? who will keep going to change oil frequently when you purchased new CRV? practically nonsense
@luke4701
@luke4701 3 года назад
i will
@dylanhughes5944
@dylanhughes5944 3 года назад
@@luke4701 enjoy
@w.a.holland2239
@w.a.holland2239 3 года назад
Friend it still is a serious problem as my 2019 has excessive oil in the crankcase, and now I have a real problem as what to do about it!
@efrainrosso6557
@efrainrosso6557 3 года назад
@@w.a.holland2239 that’s why I bought the 2.4l engine.
@curiously1510
@curiously1510 4 года назад
Thanks for the well articulated perspective on this issue. The graphics are super helpful, and the overall presentation is very well done. Hopefully Honda will continue to stand behind these vehicles.
@CarConfections
@CarConfections 4 года назад
Thanks for the feedback. This was something a little bit different than usual for us
@shocksemler8145
@shocksemler8145 4 года назад
@ dan339g That’s the problem. Honda DOES NOT stand behind these vehicles. They say nothing is wrong. Smelling gas fumes and a dip stick that smells like pure gas is totally “normal.”
@petebatfish1373
@petebatfish1373 2 года назад
LOL a well articulated Honda corporate propaganda response. IT Is NOT FIXED
@adasmith7141
@adasmith7141 4 года назад
Awesome 👏 vídeo... Very interesting and informative 🙌🙌
@DCPEvo
@DCPEvo 4 года назад
Sadly this takes what used to be a great manufacturer out of consideration. Until a mechanical redesign is put in place, it’s not fixed. All too often manufactures resort to a ‘remap’ as the solution. Excessive fuel making it past piston rings is beyond that. We are in an interesting period where many have been caught out by direct injection. We’re seeing the migration to port and direct which hopefully will take care of the majority of the carbon issues.
@patm95
@patm95 3 года назад
I agree. Honda quality has gone down in recent years. I say that as a long time Honda owner. Pretty sure I am switching to Toyota or Lexus next time around.
@patriot8087
@patriot8087 2 года назад
Thank you for a great explanation of the oil dilution issue, now I understand.
@BradiKal61
@BradiKal61 Год назад
glad I found your video. we are currently shopping for a 2020 CRV and dont want the turbo engine for this reason PLUS the cost of maintaining or replacing a turbo in general
@drew7765
@drew7765 4 года назад
The Accord is impacted too. My 2018 Accord Sport 1.5 6 speed just had the entire fuel management system and cylinder head replaced after multiple check engine lights and stalling issues. Honda didn't say it was oil dilution, but all the symptoms point to that and carbon build up. I'm only at 25k miles! I love my car, but I won't put $6k of repairs in this car when it's out of warranty. Also I drive 80 miles a day of highway round trip each day for work. I rarely do short drives.
@PLATINUM2U
@PLATINUM2U 4 года назад
That's terrible. Although I despise the 10th gens exterior and engine choices I'd have to say the J series V6 is the most reliable engine Honda ever put on the Accord
@HydraliskX
@HydraliskX 4 года назад
How do you only have 25k miles on it while driving 80 miles a day since 2018?
@lkae4
@lkae4 4 года назад
HydraliskX If he bought it mid or late 2018, 25k would be about right.
@drew7765
@drew7765 4 года назад
@@HydraliskX I bought it used, not a new purchase, sorry should have clarified that.
@bstevens9831
@bstevens9831 4 года назад
@@HydraliskX He could have purchased his 2018 Accord is say December 2018 and some dealers would have 2018 models until Jan/Feb 2019. So it's possible his elapsed time with the car is 1 year. The math supports him if he works 5 days a week and has weekends off ( 5 days x 80 miles per days = 400 miles a week. 400 miles a week times 52 weeks in a year is 20,800 miles in one year )
@jamesfung3347
@jamesfung3347 4 года назад
Total BS, VW , Mercedes, Porsche had Turbo engine for years and never heard about this problem. Honda, this is an engine design and/or manufactured flaw.
@JohnnyUkeOfficial
@JohnnyUkeOfficial 4 года назад
Used to be a fan of Honda. Had a 2006 Honda S2000 and absolutely loved it. Best car I ever owned. These newer Hondas don't seem to be as good quality. I've owned Mazda, Toyota, Hyundai and never had a problem with those manufacturers.
@eddiep812
@eddiep812 4 года назад
@Official Jonathan - Do you own a newer Honda to corroborate your belief? I actually bought a new 2017 Honda CR-V Touring at the end of 2017 and absolutely love it. I'm also impressed with the high quality. I've never had the "oil dilution" problem since day one. - I'm still a Honda fan: The Honda Civic Type R Destroys The Competition - The Best Engines: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BtkGMUY-4hs.html
@cybercityoedo808
@cybercityoedo808 4 года назад
Dude Honda still makes good cars.... I now own Civic Type R and it is a beast of a car! They are not affected by the oil dilution problem. The K20C1 is one of the best engines ever made. I used to have an AP1 S2000 and the Civic Type R blows the s2000 out of the water. Handling and acceleration/speed is superior in the FK8 Type R. I recommend you test drive a used one.
@cybercityoedo808
@cybercityoedo808 4 года назад
@@eddiep812 The Type R engine is a marvel of Engineering, it almost has a vertical torque curve. I have had my Type R on the highway and when safe, I did some short pulls... it is shocking how effortlessly it pulls to 120mph and will keep pulling hard (but I let off becuase I dont want to lose my license). It is like Zeus's Chariot. Something about the way that engine makes power. I also own a WRX STI and the STI engine (ej257) just cannot compare to the Type R engine (K20C1). The STI feels broken in comparison lol. Only reason I keep and drive my STI is the AWD is better for bad weather. Prior to buying my Type R. I test drove a 550hp(estimated) Supercharged 05 Mustang and a Mustang GT350, neither of those cars impressed me as much as the a Civic Type R did.
@SCraig-Handsome
@SCraig-Handsome 4 года назад
I bought Toyota for 20 years, switched to Honda, saved a ton of $$ and never had a repair... my 2011 Sienna engine seized due to a engine belt issue and destroyed the engine.... $4,500
@SCraig-Handsome
@SCraig-Handsome 4 года назад
Anubisavi same for me, Toyota is not as reliable as Honda and their service costs keep going up
@siriosstar4789
@siriosstar4789 3 года назад
This is NOt a fix . Basically what honda did was redefine the term oil dilution and increase the warranty . increasing the warranty is a red flag for me as it indicates that honda is admitting that the engine is faulty . I was goi t to buy a new crv in two days but after reading numerous articles about this problem the deal is off.
@user-oz3kt8mw2j
@user-oz3kt8mw2j 4 года назад
So I buy a new car and now I have to worry what kind of trips I’m gonna be making. This is major and huge dealbreaker for me. Based on customers review this issue is not resolved for 2019 and 2020
@hiteshjani8290
@hiteshjani8290 3 года назад
J this is not fixed. There is dilution and the service dept at Honda will say it’s normal. Your engine will break down.
@Immortalkalashnikov
@Immortalkalashnikov 3 года назад
@@hiteshjani8290 My 08 Toyota tundra has had this problem and guess what, it has 300K miles on it. Just change your oil every 3K miles. That's what I have been doing.
@charleshendricks171
@charleshendricks171 4 года назад
I own a 2018 CRV that had the oil dilution problem. The problem was very real. Based on dipstick measurements ie the distance between full and 1 quart low, my car was 2.5 quarts over filled. This was with 40% of oil life left. The engine only holds a little over 3 quarts when full. My oil was almost 50% gasoline! I have photos to prove it. Honda updated the computer in January 2019 and it seemed it
@ddjjss
@ddjjss 4 года назад
I’m really disappointed, I was planning to buy a new CRV very soon. Not anymore, guess I’ll buy the Toyota RAV4.
@jacekdzierzan7012
@jacekdzierzan7012 3 года назад
Same thing here. I have 2018 CRV _EXL had it at the dealer 3 times for oil dilution,. They said "it is normal" , however they agree to change oil at no cost to me (think about it - sounds suspicion?). They also changed the software, but the problem is still the same. Dealer, neither Honda can't define the abnormal oil level. They can't define excessive oil dilution either. However, they standing behind oil viscosity specification, Dealer refused to provide oil sample for independent oil analysis.
@seadogbill7625
@seadogbill7625 2 года назад
seemed it what?? Fixed it?? I have to know lol
@xXriverratsXx
@xXriverratsXx 4 года назад
Thank you for this. Still trying to decide which I’m buying, this or the RAV4. Leaning towards the RAV4 but I’m in love with the space the Honda offers.
@chuckentleutner4818
@chuckentleutner4818 4 года назад
Rav4! No question
@Panthere.vision
@Panthere.vision 4 года назад
Rav4 100%
@judgefredd33
@judgefredd33 4 года назад
Each has their own strengths and weaknesses. Depends on your priorities and which looks nicer to you. RAV4 has gas tank fill up problems as well
@chuckentleutner4818
@chuckentleutner4818 4 года назад
@@judgefredd33 But one has no oil dilution issue, Toyota
@shocksemler8145
@shocksemler8145 4 года назад
Logic Do your research on all the vehicles you like. The Honda does have the oil dilution problem. I have a 2019 and wish I had known about this issue. I would never have purchased it. I don’t know a lot about the RAV4 but like I said just research thoroughly. Good luck.
@paulsala9820
@paulsala9820 4 года назад
This is not considered fixed until Honda USA issues a written statement as to: 1. What is the maximum allowed oil/gas ratio that is allowed for safe operation. 2. What is the maximum oil level that is allowed for safe operation. 3. The turbo CRV has poor heat in very cold climates. What is the minimum temperature an owner can expect from heater when it's -10F outside. So far Honda has refused to issue this info.
@petebatfish1373
@petebatfish1373 2 года назад
yes you hit it
@rusack7174
@rusack7174 4 года назад
Keep in mind that driving very short distances on a regular bases with any gasoline powered vehicle is considered a harsh driving environment. That then calls for more frequent oil changes. Aside from fuel getting into the oil and never being burned off (so to speak) there's also the problem of condensation accumulating (water) in the crankcase also raising what you see on the dipstick.
@stevensevek6151
@stevensevek6151 4 года назад
I'm 73 & owned Hondas most of my life but I will never buy a vehicle with a small turbocharged GDI engine.
@captoblivious1
@captoblivious1 4 года назад
I agree, the 2.4l was fine.
@stevensevek6151
@stevensevek6151 4 года назад
@@captoblivious1 Unless I can be convinced it will likely be dependable. I read something recently about the Mazda CX9 which has a 2.5 liter turbo GDI engine that mentioned a novel way in which Mazda engineered it to prevent carbon build-up on the intake valves (by designing it to keep the valves at a temperature that prevents carbon build-up) And a 2.5 isn't all that small anyway and I'm thinking if you drive conservatively (which I do) it should be just fine. I just have to find that information again. I think it was a review of the CX9 on the Savage Geese channel.
@captoblivious1
@captoblivious1 4 года назад
I have a Nissan leaf that's had zero issues. Battery will eventually be worn out. But it's been very dependable and cheap to own.
@patrickmcmullen7910
@patrickmcmullen7910 4 года назад
Steven Sevek, the turbocharger is not the issue or the cause of this problem. The high pressure direct injection is the issue and the fact that the engine doesn’t seem to get to operating temperature too quickly. Honda uses a very high pressure unit that can force the gasoline by the piston rings while the engine is cold.
@stevensevek6151
@stevensevek6151 4 года назад
@@patrickmcmullen7910 We had a 2016 Mazda 6 with a GDI 2.5 liter engine and it had 69,000 miles on it when we traded it. We never had any problems with it. It was not turbocharged. Are you saying that there is more pressure from the GDI in Honda's engine than in Mazda's?
@user-cw8dq4uo1p
@user-cw8dq4uo1p 10 месяцев назад
I owned a 2019 CRV EX, with the 1.5 turbo, and had very severe oil dilution problems in my warm Central California location. I took it to the local dealer, and had him smell the dipstick, which smelled badly of oil, and they said it was normal. I had two independent mechanics look at it, and they said it was severe oil dilution, and recommended I change the oil every 2000 miles. I ended up selling the car after 15,000 miles, after I read that there were recalls to this engine in Canada and northern States of the U.S., and later in China. When my dealer professed never hearing about the problem, I lost all trust in Honda.
@Metalhead6520
@Metalhead6520 4 года назад
I own a 19 civic hatch and I remember hearing about the problem with the Crv. I remember changing my oil and smelling a strong smell of gas. I contacted my dealership and they told me it’s only with the Crv. After about 6 months Honda said it’s also the civic now and they have an update for the software to fix it. I took it in got a free oil change and update and tbh I think it’s fixed I smell no gas in my oil when I change it now.
@RyanMiller3039
@RyanMiller3039 4 года назад
I just got that update and oil change in my sedan. We shall see.
@elim7228
@elim7228 4 года назад
@@halcyonoutlander2105 because it doesn't fix the problem - I have the same issue after their "rework". Can't fix faulty hardware with a SW patch.
@elim7228
@elim7228 4 года назад
No, they don't have it fixed.
@booboothaclown5562
@booboothaclown5562 3 года назад
The problem appears to be the GDI design, forcing too much gas into the combustion chamber with a stronger pump than is typical for direct fuel injection on a Vtech engine. If you want TDI buy a turbo diesel. Gasoline is a surfactant, not a lubricant.
@baggedtuned8569
@baggedtuned8569 3 года назад
my 2020 Si dipstick smells like straight fuel.
@barryeason749
@barryeason749 4 года назад
So if the oil levels “rises” above maximum levels due to fuel in oil, I’m sure that the oil seals would be under major stress and could rupture and blow should pressures rise under high RPM’s.
@karlschauff7989
@karlschauff7989 2 года назад
The real issue is that when there is so much gasoline running into the crankcase to cause the oil level to rise, it dilutes the oil to such a degree that the oil is no longer thick enough to adequately lubricate bearings and other other components inside the engine. A couple quarts of gasoline in the crankcase will cause significant damage to the engine. Also, that much fuel running past the pistons washes the oil film off the cylinder bores, causing excessive wear to the bores, piston rings, and piston skirts. These Earth Dreams engines are going to live significantly shorter lives and will almost certainly have oil consumption issues very early in their lives.
@MattM-24
@MattM-24 2 года назад
@@karlschauff7989 These earth dreams are an earth nightmare lol. I hope all used buyers avoid them at all costs. Not only is the oil diluted and thus effective, but it's also gas in there which is a solvent. It's a double whammy. The fact Honda got away with it (failed lawsuit) and claims it's fixed after a software update is sickening.
@Mayamax3
@Mayamax3 4 года назад
I got rid of my 2018 Civic because of this issue. I measured the amount of liquid that came out of the crankcase on my final oil change and the amount of fuel in the pan accounted for just under 10% of the liquid. That's nearly 5 times higher than what's considered normal. Blackstone Labs indicates that 2% or less is within the normal range. In retrospect I wish had purchased the 2.0, but that's a moot point now.
@watts300
@watts300 4 года назад
Moo point. Like a cow's opinion.
@chinnana583
@chinnana583 2 года назад
Glad you were able to get rid of that junk. Atleast there are some ignorants who thinks this is Software issue, or not even understand/know the issue. Honda has been sleezy off late with their fixes.
@vicksta8875
@vicksta8875 2 года назад
Cant thank you enough!! My 2017CRV is a florida car, driven back to the east coast. So, I checked my oil, after a few months 3,500 miles, cuz the car was running rough. When I pulled the dipstick, the oil level was normal-high.. It smelled like fuel!!😳 I've never never pulled a oil stick on any car, and smelled fuel... So, now I know why!! Taking it too the dealer, for the recall fix!! 🤞💜 Thankyou!!!!!
@halvia21
@halvia21 4 года назад
Thanks for the great explanation! I recently purchased a 2017 CR-V but I live in Florida and in a more rural area(so rarely any quick trips) and glad to hear the power train warranty was extended. You guys make great videos, keep it up!😃
@CarConfections
@CarConfections 4 года назад
Thank you! Glad you found the video helpful!
@valjune
@valjune 4 года назад
Great job Drew and Mason on explaining the oil dilution complaints and what Honda has done to fix the issue! I know every auto manufacturer looks for ways to make a more cost efficient product with great fuel mileage while still meeting all the emissions regulations. So seems oil dilution issue was a hiccup they experienced trying to improve a power train that I felt was not broken and more reliable (their naturally aspirated engines with non-CVT transmissions.) I still have a 2012 naturally aspirated 2.4L Honda Accord Coupe EX with automatic transmission. She has given me zero issues. I just keep up with regular maintenance and she still purrs like a VTech kitten. That is the Honda quality and reliability that will always hold a special place in my ❤️. Next baby will have electric motor, instant torque, zero emissions (model 3) and we shall see if she will have same reliability that I have come to expect for a daily driver.
@mikebingham9700
@mikebingham9700 4 года назад
Hearts re given to this guy! What is this St. Valentine's Day!
@lunchonthehood5675
@lunchonthehood5675 3 года назад
Just serviced a couple of 2020 CRV’s on its very first oil change at 4K miles. Was aware of this issue so I always investigate. Dipstick wreaked of gasoline and was passed the full mark.
@The_Noticer.
@The_Noticer. 2 года назад
Is this only the Turbo model? Because the Honda Fit uses the same L15B1 without the turbocharger.. I'm looking for a car that wont give me headaches (literally and figuratively), confirmation on this would be nice.
@lunchonthehood5675
@lunchonthehood5675 2 года назад
@@The_Noticer. Wrote this comment a year ago. A lot of 1.5T’s have been showing up high mileage at my shop with no issues even with the fuel issue - I wouldn’t hesitate. If people can put turbos on stock Honda engines pushing 300/400hp no problem, I would trust the company itself to make its own turbo engine.
@The_Noticer.
@The_Noticer. 2 года назад
@@lunchonthehood5675 Alright. I guess putting in GF6A into it, running good fuels and once in a while jetting the intake with PEA will make it last a good while then?
@barrya.6212
@barrya.6212 2 года назад
This Honda APOLIGIST (Video poster) says it only was issue up to 2018 models ....so he's wrong.....I read it was beyond 2018 in different article as well..
@barrya.6212
@barrya.6212 2 года назад
@@lunchonthehood5675 Maybe not engine failure 'yet' ...but as you know gas in oil is causing premature engine wear so it's only a matter of time...
@americanmutt5426
@americanmutt5426 4 года назад
Just bought the 2020 1.5t civic with the manual transmission, fingers are crossed after reading some of these comments.
@duncanmchugh3236
@duncanmchugh3236 4 года назад
Own a 2019 CR-V. Oil dilution IS STILL A PROBLEM! 3.8 quarts go in. After about 1000 miles, 5.1 quarts come out. Very strong smell of gasoline. Oil is dirty, and viscosity is greatly diminished.
@seansteryu7398
@seansteryu7398 4 года назад
Yup. Mine too. Dealer had my2019 ex for 5 days and nothing was done cuz Honda told the dealer all 2019 has been updated
@duncanmchugh8151
@duncanmchugh8151 4 года назад
I did call American Honda and was given an incident number. They told me to take the vehicle to a dealership so they could check it out. The dealer I am working with has had more than one CR-V with this issue. They have been in contact with American Honda and a rep was to be sent out to the dealership, until the lockdowns over COVID19 started. Hoping the email exchanges between me, American Honda, and the dealership will bring about some resolution
@shando3333
@shando3333 3 года назад
@@duncanmchugh8151 was the oil dilution problem resolved in your crv?
@duncanmchugh8151
@duncanmchugh8151 3 года назад
@@shando3333 no. Full disclosure... the problem became worse. The CR-V was adding a quart of gasoline to the oil in only 800 miles... regular dipstick checks kept me informed of the fluid level in the oil pan. The dealer we were working with was very helpful and we decided to work with them to replace it. We purchased a 2020 Passport with a V6 engine. We love it.
@stevebrackett2676
@stevebrackett2676 4 года назад
Well done video, thanks for taking the time to make & produce it. The issue begs to question, however ... why has no one mentioned doing an oil analysis on a 2019 or 2020 with this turbo engine? That would settle the issue once and for all. I'm just a little uneasy about taking the word of Honda Corporate ... need to see PROOF from an actual, daily driven car. Personally ... I'm skeptical that the problem is resolved.
@CarConfections
@CarConfections 4 года назад
Thanks! We would've done just that, but this CR-V only had 1,000 miles on it, so it would have proven very little
@shocksemler8145
@shocksemler8145 4 года назад
@ Steve Brackett I have a 2019 1.5L turbo CR-V and the oil dilution problem has not been resolved. Honda will tell you it has though.
@petebatfish1373
@petebatfish1373 2 года назад
@@shocksemler8145 THIS IS TRUTH. HONDA is propaganda to cover their mistake
@andybub45
@andybub45 4 года назад
While all GDI engines have some oil dilution, none have experienced these problems that the 1.5 has. And according to what I found online, the 2019 Civics, CRVs, and Accord 1.5s are still having the oil dilution issue. I am pretty sure the fault lies within the piston rings, not the software. Honda says they fixed it, but until they release a recall and a real fix, they havent. OIL DILUTION IS NEVER NORMAL. Many other manufacturers make great GDI engines, but Honda doesnt. (Nothing against you guys)
@jonpenguin303
@jonpenguin303 4 года назад
Exactly. My wifes 2018 CRV Touring with 2200 miles had it happen to her. NOT happy with Honda.
@jsullivan8953
@jsullivan8953 4 года назад
I test drove a 2018 CRV and loved it, but because of the serious engine issue, I bought a 2018 RAV4 which has an old fashion engine WITHOUT direct injection, and WITHOUT a turbo. I just replaced my wifes car with a 2020 Toyota Corolla with the 1.8 engine WITHOUT direct injection or turbo.
@Rich-yj4ub
@Rich-yj4ub 3 года назад
Thank you so much. Buying a 2021 Toyota Rav4. A 1.5L Turbo in a Suv is just asking for trouble & ANY Oil Dilution is a problem. I live in cold climate & short drives are all I do. Toyota Rav4 may have it's quirks too but the engine is solid. Maybe that's why Honda for the first time EVER is offering 0% financing. Mhmm
@jeffruebens8355
@jeffruebens8355 4 года назад
There is talk that a new 0w-16 engine oil is coming out soon that is more gasoline resistant. The local dealer has a lifetime warranty, if you always go there for service. In the past, some dealers offering this went out of business, so it was the lifetime of the company and not how long you owned the vehicle. I am waiting for the April issue of Consumer Reports magazine at the library, that has reliability ratings for the last 8 years.
@jeffruebens8355
@jeffruebens8355 4 года назад
@@spoton3278 I agree, it is difficult to find people who will truly honor any warranty. They usually find some bullshit excuse to screw you and save their money and time. We bought a CX-5 instead of a CR-V. Mazda reliability has been improving the last few years, since they parted ways with Ford. The year old Consumer Reports top ten list for reliability has the CX-5. Their newest top ten list for reliability has the MX-5 Miata, CX-3 and CX-9. They do not take any advertising money from car brands, so hopefully they are more honest than JD Power.
@dadov7238
@dadov7238 4 года назад
Well explained, thank you.
@lloydcollins
@lloydcollins 4 года назад
Ok it just me or is there bad weather in basically every car video you guys do. Feel bad for you dudes, it’s always raining or snowing in your videos LOL! But props to you guys because you work hard at this.
@CarConfections
@CarConfections 4 года назад
KY weather fights us hard sometimes but works gotta get done one way or the other! 💪
@polatalemdar9731
@polatalemdar9731 2 года назад
I just did my 2016 civic 1.5 liter turbo engine. I use Mobil 1 advanced synthetic oil and OEM oil filter. The vehicle has 125K on it. The oil is changed usually when the warning is at 15% so before the suggested intervals. I could really smell gas in the oil.
@hermanwooster8944
@hermanwooster8944 4 года назад
Oh boy. You're going to get a LOT of flak for this video. Much respect for wading into this controversy!
@CarConfections
@CarConfections 4 года назад
I know right? But we still wanted to try to talk about it best we could because it is definitely the #1 thing we get asked about for Honda's
@JS-vp2kt
@JS-vp2kt 2 года назад
Good stuff. Just bought a 2019 Civic 1.5L Turbo. Glad to hear Honda fixed the oil dilution problem in the 2019 model. This had me concerned initially. Thanks for the video dude.
@djpayton9128
@djpayton9128 Год назад
Any updates? I’m looking into a 2019 si right now
@davidosterberg1643
@davidosterberg1643 Год назад
@@djpayton9128 I have a 2019 CR-V with 72K on the clock. There is a perceptible smell of gasoline on the dipstick and also in the oil when I change it. I change the oil at 5000 mile intervals, using a GF-6A oil with API SP rating. I do it myself because I want to be certain that the 'Best Oil' is in the crankcase. Honda says that "Normal fuel dilution" is less than 2% in this engine and considers the previous problem solved. A mixture of oil with 2% gasoline would definitely have a gasoline odor. I've yet to change the oil in this vehicle and not notice the smell of gasoline, winter or summer, the odor is always present.
@BigRobChicagoPL
@BigRobChicagoPL 4 года назад
This makes me feel better about possibly trading in my rusting 2003 Odyssey for a 2020 Civic Hatch 6 speed this summer. I live in Chicago and complete about an hour trip each way daily to University so I think the car would warm up alright. Now I just have to worry about sourcing the 6 speed Hatch...everything here is CVT
@w.a.holland2239
@w.a.holland2239 3 года назад
Just stay far away from the turbo engine, and I mean far, far away!
@BigRobChicagoPL
@BigRobChicagoPL 3 года назад
@@w.a.holland2239 honestly I've owned the 1.5T for almost a year already. Put down 9k miles. Even got the CVT. Just want the thing to last through University then I'll get something nicer like an f150
@RobertAlvarez70
@RobertAlvarez70 4 года назад
My 2019 CRV has the oil dilution problem so it hasn't been corrected
@beerstein7137
@beerstein7137 4 года назад
I also have a 2019. Living in Canada driving about 5 kilos to work and I am seeing some increase in the iil level but not sure if that is considerd abnormal oil dilution. Some questions for my edufication. Are you living in a climate where it goes to below 10F. Do you drive short distances? Has the dealer confirmed that you have a problem or what criteria do you use to say that your oil dilution is abnormal?
@shocksemler8145
@shocksemler8145 4 года назад
Beer Stein I live in south Texas and have a 2019 CRV that has a very strong smell of gas coming from under the hood and the dip stick smells like pure gas. I’ve taken it to the dealership twice and of course they’ve told me nothing is wrong. I know this is not “ normal “ even though they say a small amount of gas does get into the oil with these particular engines.They ( Honda) don’t specify what a “small amount “ is. If your oil level is increasing it is from gasoline; and that’s not a “ small amount “. There is a place called Blackstone Laboratories that will analyze your oil for contaminants. I hope this helps you somewhat. We’re all in the same situation. Good luck to you.
@shirleys765
@shirleys765 4 года назад
I also have a 2019 CRV and haven't had this problem at all.
@shocksemler8145
@shocksemler8145 4 года назад
Shirley Shawhan If you have the 2.4L engine you won’t have the dilution problem. It’s only in the 1.5L turbo. If you have the turbo and you’ve had no problem all I can say is that your very fortunate.
@parmijo
@parmijo 4 года назад
@@shocksemler8145 I have a 2019 CRV with 1.5T with 12K miles. I have zero oil dilution but I live in California and all my trips are over 20 minutes. I must be lucky too as I can't believe people would make this stuff up.
@pedologst
@pedologst 4 года назад
I have a 2018 CR-V. In cold weather the engine fix did not make any difference in the engine warming up faster as stated. In MN and I am sure anywhere else it gets cold this engine loses engine temp for me below about 10 degrees unless driving at highway speed. Cold enough you can't keep the windshield clear. Dealer service manager says his Accord blows cold air out of the vents while waiting at a light after exiting the freeway. My engine temp gauge drops to below the C in about 4 minutes at idle. Honda official position is that this vehicle operating as designed. This is unsafe.
@chuckentleutner4818
@chuckentleutner4818 4 года назад
Excuses by Honda
@galret9899
@galret9899 3 года назад
For your (apparent) age, you guys nailed it. I don't think a veteran mechanic could have done a better job. Thank you for the information.
@petebatfish1373
@petebatfish1373 2 года назад
Thank you for your propaganda on our behalf (Honda Management)
@jbrise7560
@jbrise7560 3 года назад
Good to know that the issue has been addressed. Thanks! 👍
@chinnana583
@chinnana583 2 года назад
Nope, its not solved. It is piston ring issue. Never addressed, Honda tried to mask it with SW update.
@roccol5360
@roccol5360 3 года назад
Super informative, thank you so much! Looking at a 2019 Civic with the 1.5.
@randallstewart175
@randallstewart175 4 года назад
Of course, the true answer is YES, contra video. The dilution is not limited to cold weather or northern states, although the problem is greater in those circumstances. The changes mentioned do little or nothing to change the fact of excess gas accumulation in the oil. I've owned Honda or Acura for more than 40 years, and I just bought a new Passport. Honda's response to this problem is all in the marketing department, not in engineering. Honda puts a similar engine design in the Acura RDX, and it doesn't have the oil blow-by problem in the 1.5 liter put in the CR-V, so the problem is in the engine design. It would cost Honda a fortune to change the 1.5 liter over this, and doing so would also raise buyer demands for engine replacement in the previously sold cars. In the end, this is a decision made on the same basis as that used by Ford over the Pinto: it's probably cheaper to handle the cost of defending claims made later over bad design than to change the design now. The difference is that in the CR-V/Civic, engines will die. In the Ford Pinto, people died.
@SCraig-Handsome
@SCraig-Handsome 4 года назад
Well of course because FORD = Found On Road Dead
@PrismOpal64
@PrismOpal64 3 года назад
Man I was looking into getting a new CRV, but this lingering problem scares the hell out of me.
@Rich-yj4ub
@Rich-yj4ub 3 года назад
Toyota Rav4 has a Solid Non Turbo engine. Never buy a turbo engine. To much pressure & i can tell you exactly when the oil dilution happens on a turbo. When engine is cold & you punch it to get on the highway. If one is a led foot Forget about it.
@JamesMcCarty
@JamesMcCarty 3 года назад
What lingering problem? He literally made a video to say it's been fixed. It was fixed then and the fix has been implemented on the newer models.
@pilot2020
@pilot2020 3 года назад
Stay away don't buy it I brought back my 2020 and they took it back it still has the problem honda lied to me and to the people .I'll keep my 08 crv
@w.a.holland2239
@w.a.holland2239 3 года назад
That is a lie and he was no doubt speaking only for Honda. Probably some one in his family is an employee of Honda! Tell him to come to North Carolina and I will show him the problems still still very serious.@@JamesMcCarty
@aussie8114
@aussie8114 3 года назад
@@JamesMcCarty It’s obviously a bandaid fix he was explaining. Sounds like the problem is still there. Such a shame because it’s a great car otherwise.
@walkersjolander4170
@walkersjolander4170 3 года назад
It does impact them very much!! My mom has a 2018 that she bought brand new and she lives in washing where it’s gets in the mid 20’s and low teens. Every time she goes to the work of the store she freezes to death because the engine doesn’t warm up in turn neither does the heater!! This is a very real issue they people are facing and dealership claims it’s normal to freeze to death in your brand new car in the winter??
@wintermuteryc
@wintermuteryc 5 месяцев назад
I, too, have noticed that our 2018 takes a long time to warm up ( easily 10 minutes+ ) especially in slow traffic unless there are highway/uphill driving, and even then, the coolant temperature drops again the moment I turn up the heat on a cold day (< -5C especially). At the end of the day, it is only a 1.5 litre engine unless the turbo is activated. We used to have a 3 litre V6 vehicle in the early 90's and the heat was very quick.. Fortunately, ours CRV does have heated steering wheel and seats, which get warm within a minute. I would make good use of if possible.
@Tom-pp4iv
@Tom-pp4iv 3 года назад
Well, not only those problems but smell gas inside is not acceptable! My kids can smell it and asked what smell is it? Then they got dizziness, It’s a big safety issue!
@chuckentleutner4818
@chuckentleutner4818 4 года назад
Haha, 6 year extended warranty is a joke from Honda. That's only 120,000 miles for most people. Most of us bought a Honda because of their (old) reputation of lasting for 200,000 miles or longer. If engine goes out at 121,000 miles from oil dilution, the owner is going to have to buy a new engine out of their own pocket.
@jamieharris74
@jamieharris74 4 года назад
Chuck entleutner pretty unlikely. I’ve seen civic 1.5 turbos with over 150k already, infrequent servicing, and no real problems. Hondas that last over 200k are usually looked after. People who buy them on reputation and then don’t do maintenance are often disappointed.
@19656prt
@19656prt 4 года назад
The extended warranty is unlimited mileage.
@chuckentleutner4818
@chuckentleutner4818 4 года назад
@@19656prt If that's what you want to believe, you will see ...
@salehsaleh4925
@salehsaleh4925 4 года назад
I live in Canada I had 2018 Honda CRV Honda Canada did not recall this problem to notify the owners specially in ALBERTA they ignored the whole thing so I get rid of it when I bought my vehicle I mentioned that to them they said we never heard of it they always play stupid
@kevinkilduff2064
@kevinkilduff2064 10 месяцев назад
I have 200 k on my 2004 CRV with a 2.4 normally aspirated engine. Not a single problem. Simple, efficient and it works!
@2W3X4YZ5
@2W3X4YZ5 4 года назад
If fuel is getting past the pistons, I’ve always looked at the piston rings first. DI fuel pressure is regulated. I have never ever seen fresh gasoline adhere anywhere, especially not to cylinder walls-it acts as a solvent. You have given me a lot to think about. I wonder if the problem has to do with the amount of ethanol or additives in the fuel. It seems to me like operating with water contaminated fuel would have the potential to damage the rings. And we already know that ethanol breaks down into water. If I’m on the right track, it may also stand to reason that seasonal fuel blending might also be a factor. I’m going to do some research in the forums this weekend and maybe follow up with another reply if I find anything interesting. I think it’s a problem that needs solving. What would happen if fuel contaminated oil went through a hot turbo? Can’t be good.
@moeanthony9308
@moeanthony9308 4 года назад
Yes please share.
@jimmycreighton4344
@jimmycreighton4344 8 месяцев назад
Update?
@samvitnarendra9423
@samvitnarendra9423 4 года назад
So it's "Fixed" according to Honda but if you live in cold climates it's better to do more frequent oil changes... So it is really fixed... 🤔 But that was a good, unbiased video thank you.
@COSMACELF1802
@COSMACELF1802 2 года назад
The best way to fix Honda problems is to buy a Toyota.
@mitrishski1
@mitrishski1 4 года назад
You two do such a great job with your videos. I love the way you fully address the issue and talk to us “non-automotive types”. You are filling a much needed gap.
@CarConfections
@CarConfections 4 года назад
Thanks! We appreciate that!
@brattberg
@brattberg 4 года назад
Thank you for covering this issue & talking more than others about it! I appreciate it, i did find it informative! Thanks!
@CarConfections
@CarConfections 4 года назад
Great! That's what we like to hear!
@kl1958
@kl1958 4 года назад
Any problems with the 2020 Honda Accords with oil dilution and the 1.5 turbo engine?
@FlyingGentile
@FlyingGentile 4 года назад
Honda only claimed oil dilution to cold weather 🤷🏾‍♂️. If you do alot of short trips with no planned highway stretches after those shorts short trips, skip this engine. What Honda doesn’t understand(and even tried to blame consumers) is that short trips aren’t a bad thing. Not everyone lives far from work or school, or the store. But own a vehicle for various reasons. That is just a given, should drivers who do short drives go out there way just to burn off or have oil evaporate on longer road trips?.....well yeah. But that is pretty stupid to just adjust your driving style. “O hey Bob where you going Saturday ?” “O on the highway, i need to burn off some fuel in my oil cause i did a lot of short trips this week” Like WHAT!? Other manufacturers who have GDI Turbo engines don’t have this on a short trip basis. My driving ranges from short trips for a couple days to long trips back and forth. Obviously this engine isn’t for me, but i do know folks who still own this 1.5T and do short trips and are still complaining about a smell of fuel in the oil. If a manufacturer is struggling to meet “MOST”(not all now) just most consumers driving styles then why bother selling it. Is the oil dilution fixed no, but yes. Depends on the driver
@noroar3258
@noroar3258 4 года назад
I'm coming off lease in a few months and had planned on just leasing another crv but OD issue has scared me off . I joined a message board for hyundai kona because it interests me as an option but theres some members there indicating oil dilution on the kona 1.6 turbo . They make a 2 L non turbo engine option as well so at least you can go that way instead .
@shocksemler8145
@shocksemler8145 4 года назад
@ Mr. Failure Thank you!!! I needed to laugh. What you said is so true... unfortunately.
@read1kings18
@read1kings18 4 года назад
Perhaps if starting the car when the outside temperatures are cold enough to contribute to the dilution issue then just allowing the engine to warm up at idle before driving it hard would be an adequate precaution. Giving the engine a extra minute to warm up at idle is probably not a bad idea for any automobile.
@clarencewhite6053
@clarencewhite6053 3 года назад
yea, that MAKES SENSE. I have a 2020 crv ex which comes WITH FACTORY REMOTE. I normally REMOTE START my car for 10-20 minutes before driving, ihaven't had any hiccups with mine.
@planetuniversal8085
@planetuniversal8085 2 года назад
Dude I just got a 2020v1.5 Turbo Honda Accord with 4000 miles and my my oil level is like a this is like above the high mark it's already to the point where it's hitting the metal rod And the oil smells like straight-up-and-down gasoline And I've only driven the car for a 1000 miles And I live in Miami and it's summer time So you tell me what they have fixed
@MattM-24
@MattM-24 2 года назад
No you make the problems worse by "letting it warm up". In doing-so you're forcing the engine to take longer to heat up and thus exacerbating the oil dilution. I hypothesize this is exactly why the northern states had this issue even more because this is common practice there; before you drive you let it warm up. I would suggest, in all cars, to start the car and let it run for a minute and return to normal idle RPM. Then drive the car lightly, don't rev high, until the engine is fully warmed. And specifically for this Honda, I would suggest getting rid of it posthaste and avoid buying it used.
@RellupNorth
@RellupNorth 4 года назад
I have a ‘17 civic touring with the 1.5t. 21k mikes and I have no issues at all. My commute is 6 miles one way
@w.a.holland2239
@w.a.holland2239 3 года назад
Count that as a blessing ,my 2019 had excessive gas in the crankcase at 4,000 mi.
@danshapiro1195
@danshapiro1195 4 года назад
I had a 2018 CRV Touring 2WD. Loved it. It now belongs to another family member. I now have the 2020 CRV Touring 2WD, and love it even more. Never had a issue with oil dilution on the 2018, and none on the 2020. I test drove, in 2018, all of the competition, and found the comfort level, passenger roominess, and the storage capacity of the Honda, to be more of what I wanted. Experienced the same when I was shopping for the 2020. Honda fit me the best. For how I drive, as I am 65, and retired, I love the engine and the transmission. It drives really nicely, in the city, and the highway. I use the Econ mode most of the time, and I get a combined 31 mpg. I also choose, not to use the engine turn off / on feature, and I always need to turn it off ( the simple press of the button ) before I start to drive. I do wish it was able to be left off, permanently, but as it is a gas saving feature, I understand why it becomes automatically engaged. I recommend the vehicle highly ( I am a Honda fan ). Anyway, you two youngsters are doing a very nice job. Keep it up. Dan
@xxlxpman
@xxlxpman 4 года назад
I hope you got a good one. Did you actually check your 18? The dealer certainly won't tell you.
@chinnana583
@chinnana583 2 года назад
You are a Honda fan because of ignorance. In life many time Ignorance can be a bliss.
@salehsaleh4925
@salehsaleh4925 4 года назад
When you live in Canada the small engine it takes about a good 10 minutes drive before it warms up and if you live in a small city and you’re doing short trips that mean this car it’s not good for Canadian market
@allentumminello2343
@allentumminello2343 4 года назад
Yet they are made in Canada, right
@clarencewhite6053
@clarencewhite6053 4 года назад
CANADA is HIGH COST to purchase a vehicle, If it were me i would go with the rav 4. For me one GOOD THING ABOUT HONDA is anything above the crv lx comes with a REMOTE START. For the rav 4 you gotta go ENTUNE APP or be prepared to PAY $500.00 or more.
@valdius85
@valdius85 4 года назад
@@clarencewhite6053 2.5l NA Toyota engine had a recall for fuel pump :)
@SCraig-Handsome
@SCraig-Handsome 4 года назад
I’m in Canada and I’ve driven 2010, 2016 & 2020 CRV’s. They all warm up within 5 minutes, the 2020 has the 1.5 turbo and took 3 minutes in -17 Celsius weather and even less when it is warmer. It’s better to drive cold, don’t use Remote start, don’t use heat or entertainment until you see the temperature gauge go up to about 1/4 or 1/3. If it’s-30 it could take longer of course but that’s to be expected. 2010 & 2016 are K engines, the 1.5 Litre turbo engine is the L15B7 engine. Best car I’ve ever driven by far and that includes my Hyundai Santa Fe XL with a Lambda II GDi engine (G6DH version). Honda warms up quicker and more powerful due to the turbo
@stuckinwawa
@stuckinwawa 4 года назад
Ya well my 2019 crv never warms up, it could be -20 and I can start it up in the driveway and let it run for ever, the guage wont come up. I have to drive the damn thing for 15 min just for it to come up 1 notch. The thing is brutal for warming up, fricken defrost doesn't do shit until you drive it for 5 minutes guessing where to go cause you cant see nothing through the windshield. So go ahead and buy one folks, you'll love it!
@10tenman10
@10tenman10 4 года назад
Sorry, I would not buy this car. There are lots of other vehicles that don't have this (major) problem
@lunisce
@lunisce 4 года назад
Buy 2.4L CRV or 2.0L Civic if you're worried.. no turbo
@patrickmcmullen7910
@patrickmcmullen7910 4 года назад
Lunisce, the turbo is NOT the problem on the 1.5 engine. It’s the very high pressure fuel delivery that is blasting the gasoline past the piston rings while the engine is cold. The turbo is basically non functioning below 140 degrees water temperature.
@lunisce
@lunisce 4 года назад
Patrick McMullen thanks, good to know
@ram89572
@ram89572 4 года назад
@@patrickmcmullen7910 but to be fair here you don't need to turbocharge engines for regular vehicles anyway. That's where half of all modern car problems come from. Take something not capable of doing the job then force feeding it to make it do the job is going to kill anything faster. Small displacement turbo engines is a trend that needs to die
@tousshong9438
@tousshong9438 4 года назад
Stupid tend, I must say and I hope it die soon. Toyota did it without Turbo and their vehicle are more trouble free.
@ajjenga4316
@ajjenga4316 2 года назад
I have a 2019 crv. Just went through several weeks/months of very cold weather in Canada. Checked the oil as the oil.life reader says 15% left. The dipstick was up 2 inches above full line!!! I removed 8, yes eight liters of "oil". The car takes 3.7 liters. This means over have of my "oil" was gas or water. Phoned my dealer. Apparently my wife doesn't commute far enough to properly warm up the car so this happens. Basically too bad they say! Unreal. I can only imagine the damage this has caused to the engine.
@aussie8114
@aussie8114 3 года назад
What you have explained is a bandaid fix. Sounds like the actual problem remains. The extended power train warranty is not much comfort because when you try to sell it just before the warranty expires buyers won’t want to pay much for the vehicle. Such a shame because it otherwise looks like a great vehicle.
@wdamato39
@wdamato39 4 года назад
I’m a retired mechanic with a 2017 CRV. I change my own oil. The onetime I let a technician, other than myself, change it was part of the campaign to reprogram the ECM and replace AC controller. When I got home I checked workmanship and oil to get a baseline. I called corporate Honda in California to inform them the technician overfilled crankcase. I, on the other hand, take the time to slowly add oil to achieve correct line on the dipstick when I change it every 6,000 miles with Mobil one. I haven’t experienced any excessive dilution.
@patrickkerner1471
@patrickkerner1471 4 года назад
Bottom line, change your own oil and filter and change oil plug washer every time! Fill according to car manual and verify by checking dip stick! Only use oil velocity recommended by manufacture!
@parmijo
@parmijo 4 года назад
@@patrickkerner1471 I have a 2019. Dealer overfilled. Turns out they have an automated oil refiller that has increments of .5 quarts. CRV 1.5 takes 3.7 qts including filter. So they just set the auto filler to 4 qts. I bet there are a lot CRVs with .3 qts overfilled.
@shando3333
@shando3333 3 года назад
Hi, do you live in a cold climate? Is your crv still doing good?
@tbone-spartacus3357
@tbone-spartacus3357 3 года назад
Well, you're lucky. MY 2017 dumps gas in the crankcase like a pissing horse. I change my oil every 5K and use Mobil one too, but there's no way this is good for the engine.
@tbone-spartacus3357
@tbone-spartacus3357 3 года назад
@@shando3333 It doesn't matter. I don't live in the cold climate areas, and my 2017 has this problem since day one.
@DarkStarAZ
@DarkStarAZ 4 года назад
I'm thinking of buying a new CRV so thanks for this video
@hiteshjani8290
@hiteshjani8290 3 года назад
IndigoStarAz don’t buy it.
@pilot2020
@pilot2020 3 года назад
Probably to late .I brought back my 2020 crv major problems stalling dilution almost 1 quart over each oil change they took the car back when my lawyer was present after they told me it was fixed it wasn't DONT BUY IT STAY AWAY
@w.a.holland2239
@w.a.holland2239 3 года назад
Amen! Stay far away from new Honda's until you hear that they admit a serious problem ,and have an international recall!@@pilot2020
@mosthatedking355
@mosthatedking355 3 года назад
I have a 2019 civic with the 1.5T with 29k engine began to show symptoms of this problem I live in Los Angeles and commute 53 miles one way 5 days a week and Honda is blaming me with contaminated fuel
@volatilememory9338
@volatilememory9338 4 года назад
I don't think the fixed the actual issue of the piston rings. Oil has to get past the rings for oil to be in the crankcase. Solve that problem first since everything else is a bandage after the fact.
@garthleach8144
@garthleach8144 4 года назад
Einstein
@timdiver53
@timdiver53 4 года назад
Extended warranty on top end only? What about the bottom end(crank,rods,bearings,rings etc.).Is Honda pulling the wool over are eyes?
@w.a.holland2239
@w.a.holland2239 3 года назад
Exactly! Any good mechanic knows that gasoline cleans ,meaning ,that excessive gas in the crankcase will absoutely create a major engine problem to the internal moving engine parts.......
@Broccoli_Highkicks
@Broccoli_Highkicks 4 года назад
Honda's Vtec engines are legendary, and when they finally decided to do diesel engines, they nailed it. Odd that they've now messed up the turbo engine. And am I understanding correctly that this is NOT an issue on the 1L turbo for the Civic? I'm European, and I've not noticed as much talk about this issue here - perhaps because the 1L is more common here?
@andybub45
@andybub45 4 года назад
We do not have that engine here.
@bretthansen8166
@bretthansen8166 3 года назад
Glad I got my 2020 Civic Sport Sedan with the 2.0 K20c2 Port Injected naturally aspirated engine and 6 speed manual transmission! The last year of the 2.0 NA paired with a manual transmission. No direct injection motors or CVT transmissions for me on my daily driver! My weekend car is Supercharged (2012 SS Camaro LS3 6 speed) but it’s an LS3 motor so I’m not worried, not direct injected like the new Camaro’s/Vettes 🙂 Glad I got the last year of the “reliable” Honda Civic!
@joegaspar3908
@joegaspar3908 4 года назад
Ok so I have a 2018 CRV with oil dilution. I had all the updates done and still have no difference on how high my oil is reading on the dipstick. Way over the full mark. If this fix is what has already been done in the newest models how has the problem been resolved??? Sorry I forgot it’s normal to have gas in your oil!!
@chuckentleutner4818
@chuckentleutner4818 4 года назад
Honda SHOULD HAVE done a recall on all the vehicles having oil dilution. That's why I won't by a Honda any longer, they don't stand by their products
@clarencewhite6053
@clarencewhite6053 4 года назад
i dont even look, i just drive my car. I aint poppin the hood on my crv thats their job.
@jacekdzierzan7012
@jacekdzierzan7012 3 года назад
Same thing here. Dealer (after consultation with Honda) decided to change oil for free, updated software - but I have still the same problem. After 3000 miles the oil level is > 0.5" above original level. Is it at abnormal level - they will not define it. To me the video here is addressing oil dilution same way as the dealer does. Using word EXCESSIVE oil dilution without define it is useless to all honda owner. After all there the oil dipstick is there for visual indication of oil level.
@lonewolf_2022
@lonewolf_2022 4 года назад
I had 2020 CRV and it was still reading on metal part of my oil dip stick above max marks. Could you please define what is normal vs excessive oil dilution? I also had dealer look at it, all they did is changed my oil and when I asked them what is normal dilution they said that there is no open re-calls for 2020 that is because its still new. There is a reason why China rejected proposed Honda fix and force them to re-call them due to reliability/safety concerns in their country and also to protect consumers. I ended up taking a loss and trading it for other non-Honda vehicle.
@SCraig-Handsome
@SCraig-Handsome 4 года назад
There’s no oil dilution on my 2020 CR-V, even today, -12 Celsius with the wind chill (10 Fahrenheit)
@lonewolf_2022
@lonewolf_2022 4 года назад
@@SCraig-Handsome FYI In any GDI engine there will be some oil dilution part of engine life cycle. What people on the internet speak of, is an excessive oil dilution. If you have zero oil dilution you must not be driving your car, in that case congratulations.
@SCraig-Handsome
@SCraig-Handsome 4 года назад
Lone Wolf are they warming up their car for 10-20 minutes? If so they are running it at 800 RPMs in mild weather, you need to get the engine to 2,500 RPM. I had a fuel injection problem in 1996, I was told to get it to 2,500 RPM as soon as I could for the engine to burn off the gasoline. Fuel injection has been used since 1894, this is nothing new. Eventually I had to get the ECU replaced which improved the situation but due to a design flaw engines back then could get flooded with gas if you idle them, even in cold weather. It’s uncomfortable sure but all you have to do is leave the heater off until the engine temperature gauge get to about 1/3, then turn it on. The critical temperature is about 550 Fahrenheit, get it to that then you can turn on your heaters and entertainment system. I only drive 8km to work (5 miles) but it usually gets to that before I park, then I’ll do some driving on the weekend to make sure I don’t have any issues. Not a big deal and it’s worked with Chrysler, Toyota and Honda PFI, GDI any type of fuel injection
@lonewolf_2022
@lonewolf_2022 4 года назад
@@SCraig-Handsome I drove my 2020 CRV for 25miles to work and 25 miles back it has had plenty of time to get up to operation temps. I still had an issue with oil reading on my metal part of the dip stick even after dealer looked at it and did oil change on it. It was Mon-Fri I just get in to my Car and go.On top of that thin low friction piston rings which do not help in this case. People and Engineers in China understood this issue. That is why government stepped in and forced Honda to re-call them instead to playing around with ECU flash/reprogramming, That way consumer was protected. Here in US I can't say the same. I ended up trading that Lemon in and that is end of story for me. As for others I can only be certain in my case. But feel free to ask people in comments/other forums etc.
@lonewolf_2022
@lonewolf_2022 4 года назад
Maybe if Honda will bring diesel to US I could give them another chance, but not now
@shaynesbuzzworld3391
@shaynesbuzzworld3391 4 года назад
Go with the tried and true 1.8, 2.0 and 2.4 engines that they made for years in Civic, CRV and Accord. I don’t trust their turbos yet
@michaeltaylor8857
@michaeltaylor8857 4 года назад
Well done. No auto manufacturer has avoided problems. All you can do is inform which I and others appreciate!
@vickiliberato2097
@vickiliberato2097 4 года назад
HAVE 2017 CIVIC TOURING ,CHANGING OIL AT 8000 KM , ALSO HELPS COOL TURBO CHARGER .
@mccarkid
@mccarkid 4 года назад
Second!! Love you guys!
@delroy0
@delroy0 4 года назад
Lmaooo so basically don't live in cold climates 🙄 if you have to change the oil more frequently than normal to avoid a big problem then how the hell can anyone recommend a damn CR-V to anyone 😂😂 honda better start giving out free oil changes.
@tails300
@tails300 4 года назад
It happens in warm climates too. Owners in southern states have complained about it.
@delroy0
@delroy0 4 года назад
@@tails300 see now that's even worse so crv definitely a big no no for me that earth dream engine is completely utter garbage
@stevensevek6151
@stevensevek6151 4 года назад
Free oil changes... Nothing will convince me to ever buy another Honda.
@delroy0
@delroy0 4 года назад
@@stevensevek6151 what blows my mind is websites keep saying cr-v is reliable but when I go on car complaints. Com they label some model year cr-v's as clunkers so I don't know who the hell to believe these days 😂😂😂😂.
@DanLimbach
@DanLimbach 4 года назад
The oil dilution problem has been addressed for new 2019 models and later, and can be addressed for 2015-2018 models at the dealership. The complaints for oil dilution in 2019-2020 models are extremely low. www.carcomplaints.com/Honda/CR-V/
@tiemaishoes19
@tiemaishoes19 3 года назад
After 3000 km my oil is done. Went 3 times to the dealer still not fix. Crv 2019, 23 000km The only reason why honda claim its rare it's because no one check is oil nowadays, they just wait for the computer to tell them that it's time to get a service so nobody notice that the oil is full of gaz. They all have that problem up to today and it's not fixable. So many peoples will end up with a prematurely worn out engine because of the fuel in the oil that keep the lubrification from happening inside the engine. Who here have a 1.5 turbo with more than 150 000km?
@jacekdzierzan7012
@jacekdzierzan7012 3 года назад
I fully agree with the above statement. Most of drivers go directly to Honda dealers for service and schedule maintenance withAfter all
@danejurus69
@danejurus69 3 года назад
Its only been a few years. Ask that question in a couple more years.
@alexanderdale4040
@alexanderdale4040 6 месяцев назад
Just picked up a used 2021 . . . will let you know if this is still an issue! Ironic, that in their attempts to improve fuel economy Honda has introduced all this trouble with the turbo. I had a Yamaha 650 Seca Turbo back in the day (late 80s) and had this dilution problem. That, of course, was not injected. Thanks for the review, very well done. One small point, it's "Exacerbated" not "Exasperated" . . . 🙂
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