It’s going to be a sad day when this man goes I can tell just from his videos that he’s a good guy and the type that would help you out when your down on your luck
@@back2backjack1no joke I've gone bald in the time watching Hickok and I started when I was 12. Also got diabetes and going blind in my left eye. I'm only 30 😂 life's been rough
In poker, it would offer little advantage. Many see an armed individual as LESS of a target, not more. Hence why so many mass violence events occur in 2a free zones. Crooks generally dont want a fight, especially with an armed person. I prefer concealed personally, but don't shame others who choose to express their 2a right as they see fit. Faster draw from open carry, has its benefits and drawbacks
in poker there is a game we use to play about 2am or so called Indian Chief.everybody gats three cards down you hold them to your forehead.Everybody gets to see everyones cards but there own.let the betting begin I conceal carry
I knew a professional thief once that would stake out his victims for days. What I learned from that is to never advertise your assets. No flags, bumper sticker or branded clothes.
South Carolina just started allowing anyone 18 and up to carry concealed or open without a permit. I’m 18 and I conceal carry everywhere I’m allowed to do so. No one else needs to know I’m carrying. I live in a dangerous area so I like the peace of mind it gives me.
Just make sure you read up on the laws. Because they lower the age and make it more accessible, the laws are far more harsh for charges Involving a gun, even if you have good intentions.
@@SABbrew I know. The charges are more harsh for people without a permit. That’s why people don’t like the bill because it isn’t real constitutional carry.
@@SABbrew yes read the laws. Here in Tennessee we have permit-less carry not to be confused with constitutional carry. Tennessee also offers an enhanced carry permit. The laws are different on where you can carry and are based on whether you have a permit or not. I got my permit before the new law came in to effect so it doesn't matter.
I open carry. I live in the middle of nowhere. I seldom see a person so I’m not to worried about becoming a target here on the range. I conceal carry anytime I’m amongst the population.
open carry out in rural areas is defiinitely understandable because the context matches the situation, whereas when you're out in a much more densely populated area walking around with an AR, i could understand the perspective of someone seeing that and being worried from the mass "events" in the past decade and a half on the uprise (you know what im talking about, youtube overzealously shadow deletes comments so i cant say it)
@@3nertia because 1. draw time is not as important in the context of wildlife coming after you, it still matters but not to the extent of a situation where an adversary is armed and 2. when you already have it out (most hunters carry rifles) your draw time is already exponentially faster
@@ChristopherGray00 That makes sense if you carry, say, a shotgun on your property for wildlife - I sure as shit don't want a pistol to deal with an irate bear or moose lol but both of your scenarios seem to really only apply to rifles ...
The first thing my grandfather ever told me when I started being interested in guns is, “The only time anyone should know you are armed, is when they are staring at the smoking hole in their chest” … Lived like that ever since.
I feel like there’s a time and a place to open carry like if I’m going to be driving long hours like a truck driver I would open carry and when I go for a run and don’t have any clothes that I can run in that I can conceal my gun and it does give you a faster draw time and you can carry bigger guns
First time I ever saw a person openly carrying was back in 1962. I was a little boy visiting family in Arizona and saw a man walking into a hardware store with a “six shooter” holstered on his hip. My very first thought was “he’s a cowboy and the Wild West is real.”
My first time was as a 10 year old in lake Tahoe. Same deal ssa strapped to his hip. Very cool. This was back in late 1967. Probably no longer the case in California.
And you have many till this day throughout Arizona who don't mind displaying their firearm. Not my style. I dont want anyone knowing what I might be carrying. Concealed is definitely my choice hands down.
As a LEO, many years ago, my wife and I stood in a checkout line in a grocery store, behind two of the three people I had arrested three days prior on a warrant... out of Seattle...for armed robbery. I always TRIED to treat everyone with professionalism...Courtesy and respect...At least as much as the situation permitted...Gunther and James were professional criminals, it's what they "Did for a living". James had previously shot and seriously wounded a female checker in another grocery store. He told me it was an accident due to the fact that the only gun he could find was a Black Hawk .44 magnum revolver and he didn't know how to handle it...He had wanted to find a "Nice little 32" but no luck.They didn't have much time to shop around because he and Gunther needed money for dope...SOON. They recognized me in my street clothes, smiled at me, nodded, and paid for their purchases and left. Leaving me wondering how the Hell they had made Bail. To this day, I am convinced that one's first defense should be, an adult demeanor, and a smile... and an honest, "Sorry about That" response...If a response is called for, and... an apology, if you...OR... your (POTENTIAL) ADVERSARY, thinks it's due ..A Withheld apology is a lousy thing to get killed for and a lousy thing to kill someone over. It also helps if you have your dominate hand in your pocket, gripping the butt of a light weight, six shot, two-inch revolver. As an FTO I told my many training partners, "Never try to take some one's dignity away from them... NEEDLESLY... it may be the only thing in life they have left and there is a good chance they will fight you for it". I also told them if they wanted to ride with me, they should leave their Ego in their locker.
Yes. People think they have to be the big guy so that they don't get walked over or disrespected. I get that ideology in the thug life. But when you are at wendys with your family and someone bumps into you, you still say you are sorry. Its not being a wuss or being taken advantage of, its avoiding a conflict with someone that means absolutely nothing to you and you will likely never see again in your life. Ego gets people kilt in da streets. My dad always had a cheesey saying. "You may be right, but you may be dead and right.
"Never try to take some one's dignity away from them... NEEDLESLY... it may be the only thing in life they have left and there is a good chance they will fight you for it" --- Not a LEO myself, but I feel like an awful lot of volatile situations involving law enforcement take a turn for the worse and end up with people killed, because of this exact thing. Outstanding advice.
As a citizen, the whole rambling comment you just made really made me question whether you're the kind of LEO I would want protecting me or whether I'd just rather look out for myself. Are you on dope yourself, or do you just not know how to write in proper English?
This. I tell my trainees that you don't want a long line of enemies running around because you can't do your job professionally. Sometimes a mean attitude is all they'll listen to but most of the time they know you're doing your job.
The key from this video was @2:38: "Depends on where you live." At this typing, yesterday was 118°. I can't wear that extra shirt or even IWB. To carry inside my pants would be to need a new holster every few months due to sweat deterioration, Kydex or not. I live in a 'Blue City' of ¾ million people, have open carried into stores, restaurants, banks, wine sheds (package, not bars), local university to have lunch with my wife (NOT illegal in my state!), heck, even the dog park each morning. Never in 14 years of living here have I had even one person complain, fall out, whine. They may ask me what it is--Kahr CW9--but no drama. Even had a cop ask me that question one time. Didn't want license or ID, just a query. I don't wear shirts with crossed black guns on them and my hat doesn't have "Come n' Take It" splattered all over it. My Bronco doesn't have "Come Meet Jesus" bumper stickers. I don't fiddle with it or walk like John Wayne. No fuss, no problemo.
@@grayharker6271 i have been saying that about the police for years. Think how many would be alive if they just conceal carried so they were not a target and scaring people.
Glad to hear this topic . I ve concealed carry since 1971. No permits back then unless you could prove needed. Been arrested .gone to court . And firearm(s) returned . No ammo . I did business in a tough neighborhood. America . My father was a pistol . I'm a son of a gun .
@@dannyfrog People who want that “element of surprise” always assume that they will be a bystander instead of the target victim. Your element of surprise doesn’t work when you are the one being attacked for giving the impression that you are an easy target.
The only place I "open carry" is when I'm in the woods/on a farm. Outside of that, it's concealed carry for me. Most open carriers I've interacted with are more "look at me" types. Meh, I'm good.
@francostacy7675 I'm talking about "look at me" type.not everyone is like that. So don't put a title on everyone that carries outside the waistband a "look at me" person. Everyone has their reasons. You ever think they possibly could have a medial reason, or something of that nature...
I do not open carry in public places for a few reasons: 1. As a private citizen, I think it is a tactical advantage if the bad guy doesn't know you are carrying. If you open carry, you may be forced to use your weapon in a situation that is not to your advantage tactically speaking. If I conceal carry, I get to choose if and when to engage. 2. I also realize that everyone is not a gun enthusiast as I am and may be uncomfortable around guns. I try to be respectful of their viewpoints. 3. Quite frankly, there has been a time or two when I witnessed someone open carry and given their demeanor, I was a bit nervous to be around them. In many cases, if I am behind them in a checkout line, the first thought that pops into my head is "Man, it would be so easy to grab that pistol out of their holster." Very few private citizens I have seen that open carry do it properly.
I personally never open carry BUT. I have seen a guy catch a knife under the chin for trying to grab a guys gun out of a retention holster. Mission still got accomplished
You’ll rarely see a prohibited felon from open carrying. They carry concealed as well. Open carry is on record of preventing robberies and assaults from happing in the first place, Mr. Ninja.
@@paddington1670which one is that?? Oh Canada, you mean the country that doesn’t allow its citizens to have thoughts because they need a nanny state to function in their lives? Good luck with that! Speaking of developed, what exactly had Canada developed in the last 20 years that can be found in every household….:I’ll wait
I open carry around my property, but carry concealed in public. I love the Talks Channel, Mr. Hickok... most of this community here could listen to you all day long, Sir.
@@NCLUSAbecause Sherlock if they know your armed they're alot less likely to take the chance. If your concealed they dont know your armed violence is much more likely to take place .go educate yourself it's free😂
@@Digglerdirk79-l4y Nah goofy, someone real evil(or plain stupid) would shoot you in the back to take it if no one else or surveillance is around. If you don't believe me, "educate yourself" by looking up videos and more, "it's free" 😜
@@Digglerdirk79-l4yLol. The insectoid strategy of bright colors to warn predators; "I'm a bee! I sting!" Dirk, that gun in your cowboy rig is only yours as long as I don't want it, because you'll never see mine unless I'm disarming you at gunpoint if you start to act the fool. I do not have to be concerned that you'll disarm me first. You'll have no idea that I'm armed in the first place, and I won't be acting the fool. But, I have no need for you to fear me, so that works out fine. I just keep an eye on idiots with guns when they're near me. Farmers, hikers, and hunters are not idiots. Anyone else open carrying is likely an idiot. Your cobbler would approve of the fit, I think. Yeah, I'd be watching you for signs of silliness. Scared, grumpy guy cowboying it. Sheesh. I don't think your need to be feared is healthy, and the strategy that your own fear has inspired is not optimal as a result.
I don't carry open in public, but I'm ok with others doing it. The reason I don't is because I don't want to risk having to put up with having a conversation about it with a stranger. That was a damn fine sentence.
@@TheWizardboy5 While that is a valid concern, it's not one of my concerns. I'm not even concerned enough to bother with carrying. The only time I carry is when I have to go out to the garage after dark.
im born and raised in the valley and i honestly can count the number of times ive seen someone open carrying in town on my hands... not sure where the fuck you hang out lmao
@@deebee4575 Which is ridiculous. But they still require the permit anyway. I mean, what real difference does it make, concealed or open? You're armed either way.
@@silverhammer7779 remember, EVERY gun law is an infringement of the 2A! The government telling you you need a permit to be armed means that it's not a right, it's a privilege that can be taken away, and that's completely unconstitutional!
@@plaguepandemic5651 Preachin' to the choir, dude. The function of modern government seems to be the conversion of all rights into bureaucratically awarded and administered privileges, and screw what George Bush called "a goddamn piece of paper."
The anti-gun people think if you carry that you're looking for any excuse to use it. It's the last thing most of us want to do. I hope I never have to pull it.
@@TheDarkLasombra I CC but it doesn't bother me if someone OC, but in a CC state it doesn't make sense. Like you said, probably the intimidation factor.
As an ex felon, I do not own or possess any guns classified as firearms under federal, state, or local law, but I do open carry a black powder cap and ball revolver when I'm out on the trails where trouble might come my way. I do not walk about in public with it on my hip. In that case, I only have it with me if I happen to have my backpack. I think that it is wrong to ban nonviolent felons from possessing a firearm. Imagine being nonviolent but forbidden to defend your life or your children's lives because of a felony that involved no violence of any kind. Were I to carry a firearm because it is legal for me to do so, it would remain hidden and in its holster until such a time as I need to defend myself or a bystander from a felon who is violent and has a deadly weapon. Having done six and a half years in prison, I can say that there are felons who are released who brag and laugh about their crimes as if they are psychopaths who would do it again at the drop of a hat. We need to do more to prevent those offenders from accessing firearms without robbing others of their right to bear arms.
Well said. I'm from the UK, never been jailed, but having fallen foul of the law in my younger days. I think few people realise than good people make mistakes, and just because someone has served time does not mean they are 'bad'.
As a late bloomer to the gun community, I discovered you on the RU-vids (2012). You helped me have a good, level-headed view and respect of guns. You have always given honest and good content and reviews for the rest of us. Thank you!
You really need someone to help you be " level headed " ?? Its common sense. Logic. My concern is those that have and use guns..... OPENLY point their weapon at people as if the gun is a toy ! The prime example...... Alec Baldwin Never ever point / aim a gun .....at anyone unless you intend on shooting them ! Never ! That means even if its unloaded. Thats how people are shot ! As a 14 year old....hunting pheasants.... my father climbed over a fence.... and I followed. In doing so I pointed ( for a second ) my shotgun at my dad. He dropped me in my tracts ! He said........you NEVER point a gun at anyone ! Get the point ???????
I open carry in the mountains. Easy access if I need it. Otherwise, I'm concealing. I don't see a benefit to open carry in a store. It draws unnecessary attention.
Yup. Definitely open in the woods. But then again, the shotgun or rifle is a pretty good giveaway to begin with! I do tend to conceal on public trails. If it's grizzly and moose country, I'm wide open.
@@letsdothis9063 My uncle gave me a model 1897 which may or may not have been cut down many years ago ( hello atf) that is going to become my mountain gun. I live in an area where it's not uncommon to see open carry and I'm good with people doing it, it's just not for me. Things can get wild in the wilderness though.
"Easy access if I need it" is a good argument for open carry in every situation, is it not? Your odds of needing your sidearm in the mountains isn't all that different from your odds of needing your sidearm in Walmart. Something to think about.
@thomabb you're not wrong. Where I live I'm more concerned with a mountain lion jumping me than a person. In public I would have the element of surprise, so to speak. Having you firearm holstered anywhere on you is a hindrance but we can't really walk around holding it all the time.
As a wheelchair user sometimes it is easier for me to carry my pistol in a holster on my chest. I have also found it rather difficult to use a IWB or OWB holster when I'm wearing bib overalls, so, when I'm wearing bib overalls. I also carry my pistol on my chest while using my ATV.
@@Sparky5 I have yet to talk to anyone OCing that has ever been challenged at a cash machine. I do know a few who had issues CC at these locations. As the world continues to disintegrate, OC will probably be much more necessary.
I also open carry in Havasu. As you know, it's pretty safe here. Just about everyone I know is canceled carrying . It makes some of the seasonal rvs nervous, but if they had any idea who was camping around them, for example, in the craggy wash area, they would be armed to.
No determined person with a gun has ever been deterred by seeing someone with one. People challenge law enforcement officers everyday. If someone really wants to hurt you, they’ll try anything.
The issue with the statistics on open carrying, people will say "you make yourself a target" or you lose the 'element of surprise' there is however an argument to be made about deterrent. A petty criminal is less likely to mug you, or rob the store you're working in if there is an active deterrent, in this case a firearm on your hip. Issue being with this argument, you cannot actively track deterred crimes, no one is polling people outside of the gas station asking if you didnt rob the place because they were carrying or not etc.
Actually they asked the criminals in Florida prisons in a study. They found that criminals avoid armed victims, and they are more scared of being shot by a civilian than a police officer.
@@bathwatercod5206 every place i inquired about a part time job flat out told me i could not carry my weapon while working for them. They much preferred just handing over the money and letting insurance replace it. It may be different elsewhere, but I'm in Indiana and have to live by their rules. But then, we were not allowed to work in a liquor store or bar. We could not drive a taxi. Several other jobs were off limits also. All were at high onthe list for robberies etc.
I open carry for several reasons and I'll list them for you... 1. Rule #1... Never point the barrel of your gun at anything that you don't want to destroy or at least put a hole in. Now... Where are you going to conceal carry your gun? 2. Thugs and robbers are looking for victims... Not a gun fight. The idea that they just know who to shoot first is ridiculous. This comes from the same guys that act like they're going to be clearing rooms in CQB. 3. I carry a full size adult pistol with a full size magazine... I'm not going to live with that shoved in my britches. 4. Convenience. I don't play quick draw games but slow is smooth and smooth is fast... I can easily draw my pistol with one hand. 5. "Somebody can grab your pistol". Situational awareness... If you aren't completely aware of who is in proximity of your firearms at all times... You shouldn't even own firearms. My pistol lives right behind my right elbow in a level lI retention holster. If somebody ever did get close enough to tickle my pistol... They'd get an elbow in the teeth then possibly shot. 6. I don't care one little bit about the anti gun crowd being offended or even scared. These are the very people who don't have a clue as to what's in their own best interest. 7. I'm an LTC instructor here in the state of Texas and I encourage EVERYONE to train and stay armed at all times and the more firearms in the possession of lawful citizens... The safer EVERYONE will be. Thugs don't train. How do you think a thug is going to choose a victim if everywhere he looks... He sees armed law abiding citizens? 8. I've always open carried and it has caused zero problems. People always seem to be polite and friendly for some reason. A couple questions about make and caliber and if anybody ever disapproved... They've kept it to themselves. Hide em if you want but you're not doing anything for deterrence that way and I'm all about conflict avoidance.
I don't open carry for a variety of reasons. It seems irresponsible to carry a pistol that could be grabbed by anybody around me. I don't want to make other people around me uncomfortable. And most importantly I don't want to make myself a target. I operate in stealth mode. I guarantee nobody would suspect I'm carrying. I'm a starbucks drinking, canvas shoe wearing, gun toting conservative. A walking paradox. Some might say I'm a little light in the loafers :(
If I'm in a restaurant and someone has a handgun in a holster, I am not bothered. If they come in carrying a rifle or shotgun, I'm leaving immediately. I'm not waiting to see if they are good or bad.
yep, I'm all for the the right to open care. like you said a side arm. not a problem. a rifle I'm going on full alert. no reason to be packing a rifle around for just defense. out and about.
@@brucehayes3573 Yes its not practical but maybe but also no one would carry rifle for self defense around town most likely scenario woudl be they were at shooting range or hunting and are open carry becasue of that, yes normally in such scenario if u were shooting long guns and decide to get dinner right after you would have that rifle unloaded and locked in a case, but its their right to carry it openly on their shoulder if they want to as long as he didnt bust out the door holding the thing in his arms I dont see a cause for alarm ''oh but he might pretend to come to eat but then he starts pointing out the rifle at people and shout its robbery '' true but then same could be said about that guy with a pistol who is sitting at a table I see no difference here
@@Nexesys it's a perfectly logical stigma, there's no reason to go walking around in public toting a long arm. We have a right to free speech too but there's rightfully a lot of stuff you can say that people will get upset at.
Open carry is legal in my state, yet I reserve it for camping, hunting, or remote areas, with my G40 10mm secured in a chest holster. In urban settings and crowded places, I opt for concealed carry to prevent drawing unnecessary attention or becoming a target without any tactical advantage.
You need a tactics refresher course of you believe open carry has not tactical benefit. Show of force has been an effective part of military doctrine in every culture that has ever fielded an army.
@@user-wd4ge2zh2c Your argument strays from the main topic and is thus irrelevant. The video discusses a civilian's right to carry a firearm for self-defense, not the circumstances of a soldier deployed in a war zone.
@@user-wd4ge2zh2cExcept civilians are not military, and the environments in which those two operate are on totally different ends of the spectrum. Just because it has worked for the military does not mean it'll work for the everyday average citizen.
@@user-wd4ge2zh2c Civilian carry is for self-defense purposes or, very rarely, defense of others. Military tactics are primarily aggressive and for the purpose of actively neutralizing hostiles. You cannot equate the two.
When concealed carry is an option, it is the better option. Karen calling the cops on me at the grocery store is more of a pain in the ass than open carry is worth.
I won't fault anyone who chooses open carry because that is your right. That said, it is an undeniable fact that you make your weapon seen by all. This includes anyone who has it on their minds to do something bad. I admit an open carry might deter the bad guy who sees it, but if the deterrance doesn't work, the open carry guy is the first target to get shot (or shot at). I'm a concealed carry guy for this reason, because I don't want the bad guy to know I'm armed.
I think open carry acts to seriously deter crime in general, much like how a police officer just being around acts to deter crime. That said, you do tend to make yourself a target depending on how crazy/murderous the criminal is. A dumbass trying to rob a gas station will probably be deterred. An active shooter? Maybe not. That said, I think healing the public perception of open carry is a good thing. If you do decide to open carry, it would probably be smart to dress sharp and carry yourself in a dignified way.
Again, a very nice, civil explanation from our articulate host. If other people want to open carry in public and they're safe and sensible folks, I've got no problem with it. For me it's a bit vulgar and I'd rather not let my being armed become common knowledge.
Well said! I find open carry most often vulgar, and what a bon mot for this subject! Having said that, I'd like Florida to make it legal for two reasons: I don't want to swap my clothes around when I hit the country store on my way to and from camp. But mainly... I wish the law to be unambiguous, which it is not in Florida. I can open carry on the way to camp, but if I make a single stop, now I'm no longer traveling to fish, hunt, camp or on the way to/from the range. Now the cop gets leeway in deciding if I'm legally carrying. Hard no.
I open carry, locking holster that won’t come off my belt, I can draw quickly, but no one can get it off of me, my friend is an officer, we did some scenarios in which he tried to disarm me and couldn’t. I am often alone at night, in remote areas, I have been approached in a menacing way and had the person say “Oh, you have a gun”, turn and walk away. We had a situation with being harassed by a lose dog on a regular basis, after it attacked one of our dogs, we reported it to animal control, nothing changed, one day the owner saw their dog accosting us, said “Oh sh*@ she has a ‘f’ing gun’, they addressed their dog running loose, 3 years later, still no problems. It is clearly a deterrent. I can draw quicker than when concealed, I’ve drawn in self protection twice, there’s no comparison to the time it takes. Under duress my fine motor skills aren’t as sharp, getting past clothing takes a tad longer, getting the best grip, unlocking safety…all takes just a tad longer. That’s too long for me. On my hip I can draw the second I recognize the threat, I have had to do this, it confirmed to me how quickly I can draw and deter an assailant charging at me clinched fists, he did not know I had a gun until he was staring down the barrel. It’s also a great discussion starter, for me always in a positive way, often when we part ways they say to me or to the person they are with some form of “I guess nobody will “F” with her.” I only conceal when there’s no other reasonable option, one of those places was church where a guy cornered me in an area where others weren’t around, getting to my weapon I was so slow he was able to push me before I could get control of my weapon, someone else walked in right at that moment and dealt with him. I firmly believe open carry saved my life (the police investigating agreed).
I open carry everywhere. Not sure if it was because I was open carrying or not, but a homeless woman tried to jump me the other month. She had a box cutter and was coming at me. It was the first time I’ve ever had to pull my firearm on anyone. At first I thought she was just crazy, but maybe she wanted my firearm. Luckily, she backed down after I pointed the barrel at her. I also learned that my dog won’t protect me at all hahaha
Nothing like having your gun inside your waistband with a shirt over it so if you need it you got to screw around moving your shirt and coat. I open carry and couldn’t give a damn if anyone likes it or not.
Lots of open carry in southeast Arizona. Not everyone wears the latest in tacticool attire around here which in itself kind of makes you a target. Both men and women open carry in town with no issues and it isn’t to show off. Open carry makes sense and I haven’t heard of any open carry horror stories. If you want to see real open carry, come to Tombstone. I keep hearing from the tacticool guys about how people who open carry have their guns stripped away daily and shot…by the hundreds and thousands yet when I ask for stats, no one responds including Colton Noir and others of his ilk. I’ve searched the internet and all I’ve found is people expressing OPINIONS, POSSIBILITIES, POTENTIALITIES and PROBABILITIES, but no stats. Your average criminal walking into a 7-11 is as dumb as a rock and not thinking tactically. He is going to take the path of least resistance and if he sees a gun it’s more likely he will walk away. That’s a fact you can actually look up. All you guys who have to have a 17rd sidearm with 3 extra magazines and a backup gun, with 2 extra magazines, tactical flashlight, etc making a huge bulge you don’t personally own, not only stick out like sore thumbs, you will never need or use everything you’re carrying on your person. In the unlikely event I have to pull, I want my gun out now instead of fumbling around, getting my gun caught in my shirt and shooting my dick off. To each his own. Show me the stats.
I gotta say, your point about not wearing tacticool attire resonates with me. Me personally, if I were to open carry, I would be dressing up in a nice collared shirt and jeans, with a leather holster, probably with either a nice blued 1911, or a wheel gun. I think public perception is everything if you are going to open carry. Not looking like a tacticool moron or a thug is paramount imo.
Also, I have a feeling why the big guntubers that are backed by lawyers and other suspect forms of capital spout the opinion that open carry is bad, and it ain’t got nothing to do with statistics or their personal opinion on the matter.
I watched a video from inside a convenience store that showed a 15 yo kid standing behind a guy that was open carrying. You can see the kid examining the holster to see the retention method, and when the guy stepped up the counter the kid snatched the pistol and was out the door before the guy could even turn around. The video is on Active Self Protection channel, it’s worth watching.
As a retired LEO, tactical advantage has always been absolutely essential. I never let anyone know I’m armed. Don’t have LEO vehicle tags, stickers or wear typical Cop clothing. Always aware of my surroundings.
There’s no upside to open carry aside from maybe comfort? If you’re goal is self defense sure it turns people away from targeting you but if you fear a mass shooting of some kind open carry puts you as the immediate target
I have Concealed Carry pistols for over 40 years. Almost EVERYWHERE… it the right thing for ME… Alabama is an open carry state legally. I don’t think twice if I see open carry though.
I was at PetSmart about three years ago with my two dogs getting groomed. I saw a huge person with an open carry on his back. I just told myself there are four directions you should always be aware of. He did not have all four directions under watch. I could have just leisurely walked up behind him and snatched his firearm from his back without him even knowing what action he should take. Sad to say, many of those who open carry have no knowledge of owning a firearm. You are correct; I do not want to be the first target in any situation.
Nobody thinks twice when they see an armed cop. We NEED to normalize civilian carry like that too. Also if you're going to open carry then be POLITE. You're taking on a role as 2A ambassador while you're open carrying.
Hmm. This is actually a rational well thought out answer... I like that part about being a “2A ambassador”, I wish more people looked at it that way. Probably we’d have less issues and actually be closer to normalizing ownership.
@PTANV-x2g Look in a Mirror if someone dropped a loaded 9mm on the Floor in Walmart and it killed your kid or grandkid who the hell is ignorant then .😡
Yea, where I live some guys will come in to Wal-Mart to buy a box of ammo or whatever, and not only open carry but talk LOUDLY the entire time, usually about something stupid, that NOONE cares about.. desperate for attention, like so many people in today's world 😢
The fact that neither side can point to evidence that shows the superiority of one or the other is a strong indicator that it doesn't matter. No one cares about people's speculations. Show us all the people who were killed first because they decided to open carry. Furthermore, show us all the people who died because they decided to carry concealed. You can't because this isn't a real issue. You could compile a data set on all the people who died because they couldn't hit what they were shooting at. Now, that's a real issue.
I agree with you although I've seen a clip of a dude smoked because he got the gun tangled in the shirt in a grapple and couldn't draw it. In turn I've also seen a cop killed with his own gun because he was in a busy place with hands in front and the gun at 5 o clock. So there are potential risks involved in both cases, they're nowhere near the chance of dying due to sleeping less than 7-8h or sleeping poorly (which is true for the majority of the developed world) so in practice you're right - this problem is largely made up.
Hickof45/John - Got a topic for you. Firearm maintenance and storage. Not specifically on cleaning of a firearm but more on the durations between overalls i.e. springs, etc. This seems to be a topic of much debate. Things like how often to replace recoil springs, etc. Second part of that is best options for long term storage. Just thought. Love the Talks series.
Just my .02, so take with a grain of salt: if it's my EDC (semi-auto pistol), I change all springs, including recoil spring/guide rod every 5000 rds. Also, get all new magazines every 2000rds or every 2 years, whichever comes first. Once again, just my program, but has worked well for me.
@@gisellesbikeseat That's good feedback. From what I have gathered, everyone is drastically different. A million different opinions. I think it comes down to whatever anyone is comfortable with. Really appreciated your feedback. But a little surprised about 2K magazine spring.
@jflan8536 agreed, everyone will have their opinions on this im sure. My magazine exchange rate is probably overkill, but I have personally experienced several magazine failures with several different pistol brands (all OEM magazines with less than 2000rds through them.) Albeit the mags all spent quite a bit of time loaded and stored in/out of a hot glove box, which isn't optimal. Kel-Tec, Ruger, and even a Glock 43x mag were the ones that had issues. No problems with Sig, Kahr, Canik, Springfield or Smith and Wesson mags though. Again, just my experience.
It's been said that the best EDC pistol is the one you'll bother to carry. Granted, when I heard this, it was in a conversation about full size 1911s, and whether or not the added weight is worth the barrel length, but I feel it applies here as well. If your handgun is not practical to conceal, and you'd rather go without than conceal it, open carry is still a better option.
As an Australian living in Australia I’m glad that I live where there is no need to be so frightened about crime that I’d need to carry a weapon. I enjoy the freedom to walk around without worrying about some fruitcake with a firearm going feral, or being wounded by someone taking a pot shot at whoever they think is a bad guy and missing. I like firearms and learned to shoot at an early age, but really don’t want them all over the place uncontrolled. PS: before a bunch of Americans jump on this saying that you can’t get weapons in Australia, you are wrong. It is possible to get them, but you need to justify why. Being frightened is not considered a good reason.
@@markedwards4879 WTF is wrong with Australians. There is no other nationality I’ve ever seen that is so proud to have such restrictions on your liberty. Even most Europeans in restrictive countries don’t have the same elation about gun control as Australians.
@@markedwards4879 dont worry dude, the rest of the developed world stands with you. No need for guns, we all know it - except Americans who already shit the bed so hard in respect to giving everyone the right to bear arms, which is a double edged sword, as of decades ago; they literally cant fix what theyve done because they opened the flood gates.
When I worked for a law enforcement agency as part of the training the instructor had each of us stand at one end of a twenty foot room with a dummy handgun in a fastened holster and he stood at the other end of the room with a rubber knife. The objective was for us to get the gun out and point it at the instructor before he could get to us with the knife. None of us passed the test and we all knew when he was coming and from what direction. In the real world you won't know when the attack will come or from what direction The object of that lesson was "Don't think that having a gun on you makes you safe."
So true and not to mention all the Bullsh!t that may result from you shooting someone, not to mention killing someone. Hope y'all gots lots of money for the lawyers fees.
@@ronie1337unless you are in idaho in which case feel free to air out the mf threat to you or anyone around you. You wont need a lawyer and will sleep in your own bed that night.
@@ronie1337In other words your opinion is simply, don't bother to defend yourself because you're screwed either way. Just be defenseless like all the Europeans and leftists want
Retired cop, Alabama. Open carry everywhere. What I have found is that 90% of people are totally unaware, self-absorbed and never even notice the other 10% I have already noticed. But I also carry a concealed backup at all times just like I did when I was working to eliminate the "cons". But that's just me.
I don't question you one bit. You have much more awareness due to your career. You have a right to your view. I am conceal carry and feel better for it. Hope to never have to use it, for sure.
In Michigan currently there are approximately 850k+ concealed carriers which is somewhere around 1 in 10 adults. That means if you go into a fairly busy Walmart, there may be up to 20 or more guns being carried there.
And our governoress witch is passing laws left and right to restrict where you can even conceal carry. I've often thought though, how would anyone know you are conceal carrying? I suppose if you save someone's life in a "safe zone", you can then be prosecuted for illegal carry... Such is life in Michigan.
@@francostacy7675this is a good point. All 4 of my parents (bio+step parents) have CPLs but none of them regularly carry. Personally mines on me 99% of the time in public.
Totally agree with you. Unless you are a police officer, a cape makes you a hero, open carry makes you a target. For all those that carry, how many carry cuffs or some method to secure your antagonist once they’re down? Guess you just shoot till they stop moving? That’s murder. Be practical and tactical out there!
We live in America. We have a difference of opinions. Personally I love to see people open carry. I carry concealed, my opinion is. Just carry responsibly.
There are a lot of things to consider when OC, but the old argument that OC are going to be targeted are ignoring the fact that people who AREN'T open carrying are targeted probably 99% more often. Ask someone who has open carried for a decade or more instead of someone who hasn't. You are right, there are strong opinions on the subject, and most are held by people with no experience as a civilian open carrying.
I know people that were attacked whether open or conceal carry. I know a guy that was doing security for the old food world in Irondale, Al and a guy snatched his 6" DA .357 mag and shot him and a clerk with it. That's just one example and there was a news story several months ago where a guy in a convenience store had his snatched by the guy in line behind him. Police and guard friend of mine told me stories of guards targeted and shot dead because they were armed and therefore removed before the intended crimes took place. I also know a couple of concealed carry guys that were targeted due to their positions, but they were employees of the establishments being robbed. My brother was robbed twice and once there were two perps, but only one armed and the idiots took the entire workforce into the backroom planning on forcing them into a confined space, but failed to search any of them...dumb criminals for sure and needles to say they didn't get away with it, but like I've said before... getting the drop still doesn't mean we'll survive as it depends on the situation, the perp, the mind altering substances said perp is on. I know people whom had plenty of time to return fire before expiration that were not on any substances. An exception is a guy on cocaine who took a 12 ga. load of 00 to the face point blank...he expired instantly as his brains were scattered about...half his ear was actually on top of the AC window unit, but regardless of the arm used most sd shootings are not brain shots. I prefer to conceal, but I don't get in anyone else's business that chooses open carry and in fact in areas where patriotic freedom loving Americans are the armed majority if everyone open carried it would probably deter crime.
When out hunting, or in a dangerous wilderness area, open carry. When in a town, store, or other legal public area, concealed carry to avoid issues with jerks.
If you live in a heavily populated city, open carry is the most braindead thing you can do. If you live in the countryside where your next door neighbor is 1 mile away then open carry doesn't matter.
@@AlanRoehrich9651 Kicked out of store/restaurant.....Cops called. Now a new sign that says "no weapons" is posted on the door for all of us next time. You sure showed them!
if everyone open carried, 'being the first target' would be a non-issue it's only when you're the only one open carrying that it can become a problem worth worrying about.
The obvious problem is you don’t know how sane that person with a gun is or his level of training or their skill level. Being purposely or accidentally shot carries the exact same ramifications.
@@Jcs57What is your point exactly here? Open or concealed has no bearing on what you've commented. The fact is if a large number of people open carried we could remove the insane leftist voices who know nothing about guns because society would become used to seeing them in everyday situations
I'm a big fan of Open Carry. The reason is very simple: An Armed Society is a Polite Society. To explain, let me ask you a few questions. 1) if you are in a bad mood, and you want to throw your opinion in someones face, are you going to do that to someone with a firearm strapped to their hip? 2) if you've decided that you want to hold up a gas station, are you going to do that when several of the customers and the cashier all have firearms on their belts? 3) If you decide that you want to rob someone's house, are you going to rob a house where the owners are armed, or where they say firearms are not a good idea?
I open carry around 95% of the time. I don't look for trouble and don't bother anyone unless it's in a polite manner. I'll CC when we're going somewhere there's a large number of people but that's not often. I open carry because it's a sign that says, fuck around find out. You've been warned. I don't look for trouble and don't want it given and I can't think of a more positive way to say it than announce it with the fact I'm packing a 1911A1... As far as the "socker moms" go,,, I'm not required to live my life to their standards. Only mine.
I live in West Texas and got my concealed carry license which is now known as a License to Carry back in 1995. Open carry came then Constitutional Carry. From 1995 -2024, I think I may have open carried only two or three times. I prefer to conceal carry. I'm not carrying a weapon to show it off I'm carrying it to defend myself or someone else whichever the case may be. I really enjoyed the video and subscribed to the channel. Stay Safe and Take Care!
@@bobwoods1302 cities with greatest gun control laws have most homicides, rape and burglary (NYC, LA, Chicago) and cities with lowest gun control laws (fewest laws making it difficult for law abiding to own and carry firearms) have the lowest murders, rapes and burglary. Don’t take my word for it, data is online.
@bobwoods1302 well drugs kill people so maybe we should ban drugs to stop them!... oh wait drugs are banned. And people still do them... i guess bans do... nothing.
@@onceagain227 Not all people.. If everyone likes you, there's something wrong with you, cause everyone isn't the right kinda people.. You must be really young, really naive, or really stupid.. take your pick.. 😎👌
@@idessaoutlaw I think the shoe might be on the other foot, my guy.... I'll be blunt - try not being so selfish, everything isn't about you ... Or at the very least, don't be such an extremist... There is a large ocean of difference between "literally only you" and "literally 100% of all people"... Try thinking critically before you make a habit of attempting to insult people.
It's not only a safety thing, but also i understand some people are uncomfortable around guns, and making people uncomfortable or having them calling the cops on you is the last thing i want.
As a fat person it's all about comfort to me, there isn't a whole lot of holsters out there particularly for me. I do have this waist band that I am able to conceal comfortably, however during the summer time I tend to wear light clothing as much as possible to not sweat and I do print, so there isn't any point for me to conceal it, until I find the right IWB that fits me perfectly. But now it's getting colder I can go back to my normal baggy clothing and I don't print when concealing with my waste band. I understand the risks of open carry, isn't smart. But I rather armed, instead of unarmed period.
I’m starting to wonder if the anti open carry thing is intentional by those who want only the police to have and open carry guns. None of the anti open carry arguments hold up when considering it relative to tens of thousands of law enforcement officers doing it every day.
It’s absolutely intentional. Get people riled up enough and the state will take away your rights and say it’s the people’s will. We should be smarter than divide and conquer, but that’s what defines us today. Frustrating.
Anytime I see open carry it strikes me that the person is trying to show everyone how cool he is, or how badass he is. I makes me think that they are scared of life and really insecure in themselves. Open carry is unnecessary and intentionally provocative.
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I agree with you brother. Carrying open gives the attacker time to think their plans out better. If they dont really suspect you have one they are less appointed toward you.
So the answer is not to hide the people who can defend themselves. The proper answer to that scenario is to have MORE people who have them and force the criminals into a situation where every other person within range has one then you will see crime reduce
@@godlikemachine645 ok, that means you support child pron, libel, slander, yelling fire in a theater. or you don't have the faintest idea of how the constitution works. which is it? don't run away.
I’ve worked in the firearms industry for years and this subject is still debated…I can definitely argue for both side of this argument. That said, my PERSONAL decision is that I would rather no one knowing what I’m carrying.
I guess that's pretty much where I am on it. I could argue both sides of it. It does come down to the fact that people are good, or they are not. How a "good guy" carries his gun should be pretty irrelevant to the rest of us. If he's a "bad guy," he's very unlikely to be carrying "open." That's my first thought when I see somebody carrying a firearm openly. He or she is some sort of law enforcement / security or else it's simply a citizen carrying open. Either way, I'm assuming it's a good guy. How many criminal types are wearing a belt holster and gun openly?
