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Massad Ayoob: The Pros and Cons of AIWB, IWB and OWB Concealed Carry Positions - Critical Mas Ep 15 

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Which carry position on the belt works best for you? Massad Ayoob examines three different holster positions for concealed carry. Outside the Waistband, Inside the Waistband and the always controversial Appendix Carry. He goes through the pros and cons of each, to help you decide what style works for you.
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Critical Mas(s) with Massad Ayoob is a show that provides expert analysis over a wide range of contemporaneous topics related to civilian and law enforcement self defense, the use of force, and second amendment issues, provided by a renowned and established author with a career spanning decades in training law enforcement officers and the public at large, who is frequently called upon to provide expert witness testimony.
ABOUT MASSAD AYOOB:
Massad Ayoob has been handgun editor of GUNS magazine and law enforcement columnist for AMERICAN HANDGUNNER since the 1970s, and has published thousands of articles in gun magazines, martial arts publications, and law enforcement journals. He is the author of some twenty books on firearms, self-defense, and related topics, including “In the Gravest Extreme” and “Deadly Force,” widely considered to be authoritative texts on the topic of the use of lethal force.
The winner of the Outstanding American Handgunner of the Year Award in 1998, Mas has won several state and regional handgun shooting championships. Ayoob was the first person to earn the title of Five Gun Master in the International Defensive Pistol Association. He is the current President of the Second Amendment Foundation. He served 19 years as chair of the Firearms Committee of the American Society of Law Enforcement Trainers, and several years as a member of the Advisory Board of the International Law Enforcement Educators and Trainers Association. In addition to teaching for those groups, he has also taught
for the International Association of Law Enforcement Firearms Instructors and the International Homicide Investigators seminars.
Mas has received judicial recognition as an expert witness for the courts in weapons and shooting cases since 1979, and served as a fully sworn and empowered, part time police officer for 43 years, mostly at supervisor rank. Ayoob founded the Lethal Force Institute in 1981 and served as its director until 2009, and now trains through Massad Ayoob Group. He has
appeared on CLE-TV delivering continuing legal education for attorneys, through the American Law Institute and American Bar Association, and has been retained to train attorneys to handle deadly force cases through the Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network. Ayoob served for two
years as co-vice chair of the Forensic Evidence Committee of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers. He also appeared in each episode of Personal Defense TV (Sportsman’s Channel).
0:00 - Introduction
0:35 - Wearing the right belt
1:40 - Overview of choices
2:30 - Terminology
3:30 - OWB Holsters
5:30 - IWB Holsters
9:00 - AIWB Holsters
14:40 - Assess what works for you
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@statiklingon
@statiklingon 2 года назад
"Alternatively, you could diet and lose 2 inches, but this is America and I don't ask the ridiculous or the impossible." This man is a treasure.
@heartandmindovercome3214
@heartandmindovercome3214 Год назад
🤣🤣😂😂
@raven4090
@raven4090 Год назад
For sure! 😆 🤣
@Lycan_24_7
@Lycan_24_7 Год назад
Said it monotone with a completely sttaight face 😁
@worldtravel101
@worldtravel101 Год назад
🏅
@idhughes1
@idhughes1 Год назад
Hell of a head of hair as well 🤔
@j.demarco8937
@j.demarco8937 Год назад
Massad Ayoob should be America's ONLY firearms instructor. No political bullshit. No fake tough guy bullshit. Just a knowledgeable human being giving out technical information.
@JacobC479
@JacobC479 9 месяцев назад
Exactly. Way too many gun people are super political and have a certain attitude that is just off putting.
@j.p.4541
@j.p.4541 9 месяцев назад
Agreed, Massad doesn’t need to wear his younger brother’s t shirts to look cool. Man’s a legend.
@Spurioushamster
@Spurioushamster 9 месяцев назад
I wish all gun enthusiasts were like him.
@seanm7539
@seanm7539 9 месяцев назад
@@JacobC479 or they try to act like they’ve done and seen shit that they really haven’t done were they trying to go to high-speed operator with it to be like I’m tactical and I’m cool no you’re a fucking douche bag I would much rather take a pistol class from an actual veteran who knows what they’re talking about has actually been down range and etc. etc. but yeah it’s freaking annoying and that’s why Masada and Colion noir are good people to go to for info
@alijaffery7735
@alijaffery7735 7 месяцев назад
@@JacobC479 Yup. I don’t need to hear their religious sermonizing, or about how abortion is murder, etc.
@camperspecial9666
@camperspecial9666 2 года назад
I'm starting to re-watch Ayoob just for his dry sense of humor. Great commentary as always. Thank you Sir.
@sgtstedanko7186
@sgtstedanko7186 2 года назад
He didn't get much water as a kid
@searchBLOC941
@searchBLOC941 2 года назад
He rivals Clint Smith with his dry humor. Must be that generation. Lovin' it.
@TheCreedBratton
@TheCreedBratton 2 года назад
Dry humor is my favorite humor
@markiefufu
@markiefufu 2 года назад
His joke about losing 2 inches in the waist got me to chuckle out loud. Almost woke up the wife. 🤣
@blueknight5754
@blueknight5754 Год назад
He reminds me of Lt. Kenda.
@ahjeezrick
@ahjeezrick Год назад
I absolutely love hearing this guy talk. “You could diet, but this is America, I don’t ask the ridiculous of the impossible”
@donkeypox1943
@donkeypox1943 Год назад
Do you bulge when you hear is baritone?
@pwalms65
@pwalms65 Год назад
@@donkeypox1943 That's cringe. Next, I can hear you say, "it's rubs the lotion on its skin"
@donkeypox1943
@donkeypox1943 Год назад
@@pwalms65 "Come on Man" you gots to raw dogg it!
@ingleringlet-snipps3rd449
@ingleringlet-snipps3rd449 Год назад
I think this man is a fantastic pistol shot, however, I respect him so much because he never mentions it nor does he have tons of videos showing it. His videos are always geared toward helping us.
@Lavo68
@Lavo68 Год назад
With his steely swagger, you just know his targeting skills are tops.
@oklahomahank2378
@oklahomahank2378 Год назад
@@Lavo68 Some of his championships can be found on line. If Ken Hackathorn says Ayoob is a good shot, he is.
@stevemccormick3968
@stevemccormick3968 Год назад
I often carry my S&W Shield in the appendix position. It's easy to conceal and very comfortable. That being said there really is an issue with what the muzzle is pointing at. I am an ER nurse. I had a patient that got into a fistfight, drew his pistol from the appendix position and his opponent fled. Upon re-holstering he experienced an unintended discharge that shot off that all important appendage. BTW, alcohol was probably involved. He survived, but he wasn't happy. He actually said to me, "Hey, doc, if you can't save it, don't save me!" From that day forward I never re-holster my gun with the holster inside my waistband. I always remove it, holster my gun, and then tuck the holster back in. Just another life lesson I will never forget!
@nickbusse2718
@nickbusse2718 Месяц назад
Every man’s greatest fear whilst carrying appendix
@OkOk-wl7le
@OkOk-wl7le Месяц назад
“If you cant save it, dont save me”😂😭
@fbodkin1
@fbodkin1 Год назад
Most people I know in the CCW world know of Massad and consider him the gold standard. Hearing the humility in the story with Spencer only deepened my respect for this man.
@stroys7061
@stroys7061 Год назад
It was a great story to help make his point. He didn’t win the competition but there is no person I know of I’d rather have defending me or my loved ones in a gun fight. He is the gold standard!
@billpohlman803
@billpohlman803 Год назад
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@DwnRange
@DwnRange 2 года назад
For vast majority of my 68 years in life and well over 40 of them I have ridden a Leg-breaker (a phrase my dad was fond of calling the motorcycles he raced and built when I was young) 24/7/265 in Houston, Texas. As a NRA certified instructor and one of the early Texas CHL instructors I also tried many different modes of concealed carry and the only 2 viable options were shoulder holster and IWB cross-draw so for most of my life, save for long winter road-trips, IWB cross-draw became my preferred method of concealed carry. It allowed daily work concealment, and placed my Detonics Combat Master handgun infront of my body where the muzzle never crossed my left leg while sitting astride my scoot and I never needed to worry about Houston potholes bouncing my Combat Masters down the road behind me, as was possible with the 3:30 IWB option. I am now retired and while I have also retired the Combat Masters in favor of either the Glock 26 or 19, both lighter with more capacity, I have never retired the IWB cross-draw method, for as Massad notes, that muscle memory thing is hard to retrain and my first priority was to never to carry a handgun pointing at any part of my body, especially my junk, 'cus although I don't use it quite as often I do still find great joy in using it when I can, YMMV. Great video, IMHO.
@jeffcj
@jeffcj 6 месяцев назад
Interesting that he doesn't mention those two alternative carry positions, I suppose because they are less popular.
@lanedexter6303
@lanedexter6303 6 месяцев назад
Ayoob does have a shoulder holster video.@@jeffcj
@KTMitchell1953
@KTMitchell1953 2 года назад
Very educational video. I love the fact that Massad explains the advantages and disadvantages of each position. I definitely have the utmost respect for this man.
@anthonyboatright6960
@anthonyboatright6960 2 года назад
@Mitch If you Get a chance to take one of his Classes they're great.
@robertoperez32
@robertoperez32 2 года назад
@@anthonyboatright6960 update oon
@ankhscrackpipeemeritus2092
@ankhscrackpipeemeritus2092 2 года назад
he needs to take that rug off of his head, that's for sure!👨‍🦲
@gustavogalar2085
@gustavogalar2085 2 года назад
You need to get brains which is more difficult to achieve!
@stephenedwards5038
@stephenedwards5038 2 года назад
Me too..
@tomglpn
@tomglpn 2 года назад
There's not a lot of RU-vidrs that I will listen to on firearms advice. This fellow is one of about 5.
@johnqpublic2718
@johnqpublic2718 2 года назад
We're all waiting with baited breath for you to grace us with your complete list.
@Followme556
@Followme556 2 года назад
@@johnqpublic2718 pro tip: stop being a jackass.
@Followme556
@Followme556 2 года назад
Probably because Mas (and ill bet the other guys on your list) are not really youtubers. They're old school top notch pros who happen to make youtube videos now. That's my guess. ;)
@rigel2112
@rigel2112 2 года назад
@@johnqpublic2718 Mas, Paul Harrell, and Lenny Magill is my complete list.
@Valorius
@Valorius 2 года назад
@@rigel2112 Don't forget Mas's old buddy Ken Hackathorn. (He also makes vids for Wilson combat).
@stephenanderson5991
@stephenanderson5991 2 года назад
When Massad speaks, I LISTEN! Lots of respect for the man. He provides valuable real world experience in his commentary.
@sergeantc8163
@sergeantc8163 2 года назад
Completely agree 💯
@tomfrommichigan
@tomfrommichigan 2 года назад
This man the most logical instructor I have seen. He has very well thought out opinions and articulates them perfectly. He is definitely very real world.
@michaelslisher4652
@michaelslisher4652 2 года назад
I'm 68 and have been carrying either open or concealed since I was 20. I carry either OWB or IWB, and regardless, my preference has always been at the 4:00 position, give or take :30. I slightly prefer OWB, but not by much. Both a good holster (Milt Sparks, for example) and a good belt (Kore is my latest goto) make a world of difference and like Mas says, are essential.
@Valorius
@Valorius 2 года назад
I agree.
@zionkid28
@zionkid28 2 года назад
Love my KORE belt
@OMG_No_Way
@OMG_No_Way 2 года назад
Kore belt wearer here too. Great belts.
@deepb249
@deepb249 2 года назад
What kore belt models you have?
@nostradamus7648
@nostradamus7648 Год назад
What's your opinion of Vedder holsters? Or the Urban Carry Lockleather hybrid.
@jaydee2012
@jaydee2012 Год назад
Stretchy pant jeans are revolutionary for IWB.
@Nothing-gw2fb
@Nothing-gw2fb Год назад
I like the way he explains things like a poet. Rare nowadays
@waynehendrix4806
@waynehendrix4806 2 года назад
Massad, I was just thinking as the video started, it's great to be able to hear you talk directly and often. As a child of the 70's to 80's, I would occasionally get an article which you had written, or a few interviews. Your intentional focus on facts and not just opinions had an absolute influence on my thinking. As for me, daily carry, I'm a 1-2:00 snub .357 revolver carrier, IWB, in a no longer sold, skeletonized carrier. Works well, and even can jog in "pants" with it. Here in N East, the sweatshirt and a light winter coat makes it completely not visible to the world. Draw might suffer a little, but availability will not. I like my pistols, but the revolver melts into my wardrobe. Don't mess with old men....
@rogerbello4649
@rogerbello4649 2 года назад
Wayne Hendrix, I am curious as to what is a "skeletonized carrier", I am very new to firearms. I couldn't find an image of one when I googled it. Thank you in advanced.
@waynehendrix4806
@waynehendrix4806 2 года назад
@@rogerbello4649 Roger, thankfully I got an alert to this message, or I might have never seen the question. By skeletonized, I mean to say molded plastic, with no outer sheath, plastic, leather, or otherwise. It has a lower rod that goes into the barrel, and a frame that goes up along the outside of the firearm, along the trigger guard etc, and captures the frame. There is also a spring steel belt clip on the outside. Original name was "caretaker quick draw", but I only found one, and I think there was no production after 1999. Great part is that is weighs ounces, and supports well for appendix carry. You'll just need a callous on your appendix to carry it. :)
@cindyrobertson3798
@cindyrobertson3798 Год назад
Old women either! One on my belt extra in my bag or jacket. Swimming at the lake it's in the trunk of the car. I'm in a constitutional carry state .😊
@roberttalbot1658
@roberttalbot1658 2 года назад
Mas is so great at clarifying things. It's easy to follow his clear, logical speaking. I wish that he might do a video on crossdraw holster carry.
@heroofharo
@heroofharo 2 года назад
Gonna be honest, anyone who's done it will tell you aside from concealabilty and comfort, it's probably one of the worst ways to carry besides small of the back. It's an awkward, obvious motion to draw and I'd only recommend drawing from an already advantageous position. The main upside being it's so much more comfortable while sitting out driving because the 90 degree angle of the frame matches your hips and legs.
@ScrappyXGC
@ScrappyXGC 2 года назад
I'll do it with my back up, but only if it's a revolver. It's great for IWB accessible to both hands. You'll never get a Quicksdraw McGraw trophy for it though. Try a shoulder holster, very much the same trying to draw off hand, and very much the same strong hand. It's viable though. That you do it is what matters most. I'm going to c/p myself. Maybe all in one shot... I don't wear any holster IWB, OWB in any position that I cannot clear my garment with the draw hand alone. My off hand has the duty of GTFOM with knife if need be to give me TIME, distance is time, them reacting to pain is time, I'll take whatever time I can get. Back up is always either hand accessible. The Gravest Extreme clarified my thoughts on redundancy in how you fight, you have two arms and two hands, one set may go down, have to be ready to use the other. SERPA's either at 3- or 6+ for that reason. Back-up (or church carry) is most often 6 - 7 (especially when I'm using the SERPA it's at 7 and SERPA's 0300 - 0230). Thumb's always out, bird finger and heel of thumb can begin formation of grip. Start slow, and get the foundation of your muscle memory, with the ring finger pulling your grip into the base of your palm. It's like a roll in,. Yes you can fire with index, bird, and only heel of thumb from the hip with your forearm creased by the base of the slide and I don't recommend it. Still it works 1911 or Glock, pushing forward! before the next shot. No matter how you choose to carry, muscle memory is paramount on your draw. Unload your pistol, and do it. Over and over. Don't like the position for your holster, change it. Don't like your carry holster, change it. Your life may depend on this. Do it over and over, no f' ups. Hopefully it will never come to your life depending on how you carry. You can be very sure that your confidence in yourself will matter even if you never have to draw. Many things in life will hinge on how you carry yourself, have confidence in the "push comes to shove" you'll shove and they won't like it. It's stopped others in my life without laying a hand on what I was about to shove with. They saw they were about to stop by my demeanor, so they did before it was made so. Constant carry means you must be ready to constantly deploy then employ. We have to practice both. Keep calm and carry on. Oh, hit if need be. Still all this is just me, I'm only alive by grace of God even if constant carry for over 3 decades, it's still by Him. I almost completely f'd up a few times, so it was Him. YEEEE!!! Worked I wore a 686 for years in a shoulder holster, and could draw with either hand. Slow though, very freakin slow, either hand. 6" brrl is always slow, still both eyes open you'll hit even at chest height. Dang, just realized I forgot to say "thumbs out" always. Meh, not going back to edit it.
@stephenmartini5890
@stephenmartini5890 2 года назад
I've always favored the IWB cross draw at the 1-2 o'clock position as I'm a lefty with a few of my guns. I also, have two shoulder rigs for them as well. Being a lefty does have it's problems though, I'm training with my right hand, also. It would be nice for Mas to do a video on cross draw and or with a lefty in mind. I also, carry in the 9 o'clock forward can't depending upon how I'm dressed. I have to add that I'm not a cop or a street fighter, just an avg. citizen.
@shouldhavenotshouldof2031
@shouldhavenotshouldof2031 2 года назад
Nice rant
@65coupestang
@65coupestang Год назад
He DOES do one it's called masaad ayoob shoulder holster right here on youtube..
@josephgonzales4802
@josephgonzales4802 2 года назад
Very, very informative. I'm a Police officer and I have been carrying out side waistband, off duty for over thirty years and It works for me. I only have to buy larger shirts and jackets. I have tried other methods and always came back to the OWB carry. 👮‍♂️
@thomaspowers5486
@thomaspowers5486 2 года назад
Retired now, but on the job I always carried OWB off duty. Still do today. (J-frame in an ankle holster works too.)
@MojoPup
@MojoPup 2 года назад
I prefer OWB as well (retired LEO). But where I live, wearing a jacket is rare...so I wear IWB most of the time to avoid exposure.
@danhatton2229
@danhatton2229 2 года назад
I tried iwb and prefer owb for comfort and better access in my opinion. I wear loose clothing to conceal and it works for me.
@owendigity1581
@owendigity1581 2 года назад
You are an officer and taking advice from youtube? Union a hole.
@usernamemykel
@usernamemykel Год назад
@Jonny Henke That makes you a rare Panter.
@philmann3476
@philmann3476 6 месяцев назад
"The gun is pointed at the genitalia...the medical results could be absolutely catastrophic." Uh, yeah... that's one way of putting it. Seriously, Massad is one of the absolute best. Much appreciated.
@ProfessorGillman
@ProfessorGillman 14 дней назад
Well, I have always found my own way of balancing practicality with comfort. After many years of wearing an IWB holster, inside the waist band, which no matter what I did was uncomfortable, I switched to having the holster in between waist band and the belt. This has proved to be very comfortable, still very secure, and since I wear cross draw, I can maximize effort by lifting the garment with one hand while grabbing for the gun at the same time with the other. Yes I know this ties up my non gun hand, but I will now carry every where that I legally can, instead of not carrying due to discomfort. Mr. Ayoob will probably point out valid issues why this may not be a very good practice, but it works for me. However, I'm not stubborn when it comes to self defense and will appreciate any feedback from a man as knowledgeable as Mr. Ayoob.
@davidwacton
@davidwacton 2 года назад
I too am in a wheelchair because of spinal deterioration and nerve damage running across my lower back. I have worked on a rig that connects my chair and my holsters to the front of the chair. A towel hides the rig and the weapons. It works pretty good.
@PPSChadwick
@PPSChadwick 2 года назад
Now that Wilson makes and sells an appendix holster I guess we can look forward to an appendix division in IDPA soon. 😉
@mwileyy112492
@mwileyy112492 2 года назад
Wouldn’t that be nice. USPSA has allow AIWB for a while. I would love to see IDPA keep up with how people are actually carrying.
@PPSChadwick
@PPSChadwick 2 года назад
@@mwileyy112492 when Wilson Combat started making and selling PCC rifles it was introduced as a division in IDPA. Now that Wilson makes and sells an appendix holster I would imagine under the 2022 rule book for IDPA we will see an appendix carry option. Do you think Joyce will apologize for the scathing message she sent last year to the match director that allowed appendix carry at his match? I doubt it…
@throatpunch4789
@throatpunch4789 2 года назад
The old guys at Wilson combat HATE that new fangled appendix carry but are forced to follow the market...
@wraithsong24-7
@wraithsong24-7 2 года назад
Great presentation! I was a private investigator for 20 years in Colorado. I always had a ccw and still carry since I retired in 2015. I was pulled over one morning in the mountains, around 4:00am. I was headed to a surveillance case and was running late, ended up speeding 30 over the posted limit. A state trooper pulled me over. I worked with law enforcement agencies during my carrier and was well versed on patrol procedures. I turned off my engine, rolled “all” my tinted windows down, had both hands on the steering wheel, with all my docs, license and ccw in my left hand. He approached, asked me if I knew why he pulled me over. I said, “When I saw your lights I looked at my speedometer, I saw I was doing 86.” He was already looking at my licenses and then my ccw. He stopped, looked up, and I remember, he looked surprised, he said, “I appreciate your honesty. I had you at 85.” He asked if I had my weapon on me I told him I did, on my right hip (xd 45). He asked me what I did for a living I told him. He handed me back my ccw and asked if there was anything bad on my driving record. I said no sir. He told me to “sit tight”. Then, after 20 of the longest minutes, I was sure he was waiting for backup. he came back. Handed me all my docs and license. I was very relieved and grateful. He said, “you know, if I wrote this up, you were going to jail, $1000 fine and we’re impounding your vehicle?” I sad yes, I had been worried that’s what was going to happen. He said, “If not for your honesty, I don’t care what you do for a living, you were going to jail. I can’t remember the last time someone was this honest with me on a traffic stop.” I thanked him again, with a lot of sincerity, told him to be safe. I drove the speed limit the rest of the way. By the way, being late didn’t matter, that case was a big success that day.
@andrewtanczyk4009
@andrewtanczyk4009 Год назад
Usually it doesn’t pay to be that honest yet when you get caught why not. Especially after watching do not talk to the police.
@andrewtanczyk4009
@andrewtanczyk4009 Год назад
James Duane’s book you have the right to remain innocent
@DW133_
@DW133_ Год назад
No offense but man that was boring
@wraithsong24-7
@wraithsong24-7 Год назад
@@DW133_ I’m happy it was boring. The best interaction with cops when they pull you over is “boring” 😊 Thanks for the reply
@mediocreman2
@mediocreman2 Год назад
Says a lot about Colorado. I went 40 over and the cop reduced it down. Glad I don't live in that cesspool that Colorado has become.
@oldcop18
@oldcop18 2 года назад
Greetings Mas, great presentation. You may not remember but you interviewed me for a 2016 article, “Out of Ammo” in American Handgunner. I was a detective in ‘74 when I was forced to engage armed robbery suspects w/my issued Colt Detective Special, carried under a suit jacket @ the 4 o’clock position. Everything you say here is spot on. Stay well . . .
@Valorius
@Valorius 2 года назад
Glad to see you're still breathing.
@tchin2020
@tchin2020 2 года назад
Joining the NYPD in 1984, it was time to chose your off duty handgun, the NYPD only authorized 38 cal revolvers, I had the option of either purchasing the SW Police Chief or the Colt Detective Special. The Chief was going for $125 (which was purchased by 90% of the rookies) and the Colt DS was going for $350. I asked the range instructor what was the difference between the SW Chief and Colt Detective Special, and he said the Chief chambered 5 rounds, while the Colt DS chambered 6 rounds, and that one bullet may save your life… so I carried the Colt DS my whole career… even when we went to 9mm, (Glock 19 (ugh) or Sig P226 ) I still carried my Colt DS. When I would go for annual qualifications, the range instructor would inspect the handguns, and when he saw my Colt DS, he was in awe, they always complimented the Colt DS, even today…I keep it clean and rarely shoot it at the range, the Colt DS is a classy original police equipment. They are rare handguns to have nowadays.
@oldcop18
@oldcop18 2 года назад
@@tchin2020 My first off-duty gun was a Colt Cobra purchased new for $85 in 1968 & I still have it. Not carried any longer but it does go to the range a few times a year.
@jimtheedcguy4313
@jimtheedcguy4313 2 года назад
Did you feel out gunned with only having a 38 special at the time, similar to the Miami Dade shooting? Thank you for your service! I know its a thankless job!
@johndelorenzo602
@johndelorenzo602 Год назад
@@tchin2020 I have my grandfathers Detective Special, it’s probably the only gun I own that would never ever ever sell
@sisleymichael
@sisleymichael 2 года назад
You mentioned threat profile, or threat assessment. I pocket carry in summer and OWB hip carry in winter. In S. Texas, it is hot 9 months. I suspect folks all across the South go through the same heat. You cannot wear a jacket much. I am mostly in work pants or shorts and t-shirts. It limits gun size as well. Thank God for the micro pistols. With my work, appendix carry just cannot work, period. Too much bending, crawling, general movement. IWB? The same thing. I tried it. Just miserable. Each person must find what best works for their body type, their work, their daily wardrobe, climate, AND what is the threat where you are? I'm lucky in that I only worry about how I carry when I come to town. (I live on a ranch). That said, the gun size goes down. I carry a G19 at the ranch in a thumb break OWB holster and two mag pouches, and a work knife on the belt. With all the illegal entrants constantly popping up everywhere down here, I am armed at all times. My ranch truck has an AR and a 590A1 12ga. I also roll with body armor, radio comms, first aid bag, 2 gallons of extra water in the truck as well. It is getting very weird out here.
@lovepickingnc9313
@lovepickingnc9313 2 года назад
Stay safe, it sounds like you are well prepared. I'm sorry you have to deal with all that.
@dannygannon6804
@dannygannon6804 Год назад
Thank Biden and his party
@Bulldog75stp
@Bulldog75stp 2 года назад
Honestly, they've been carrying AIWB since the days of Blackbeard. Worked for him.
@SAMZIRRA
@SAMZIRRA Год назад
He just reminded me of my friend pinching his genitalia on a bar stool when it was lower than he realized and crushed his left nugget between the end of the barrel and the stool top. He is the one who actually told me this is why he uses a shoulder carry now and that is how I ended up finding this channel to learn about shoulder carrying. Everything has come full circle lol
@PudgyFish47
@PudgyFish47 Год назад
Wow! Another example of the more I think I know, the less I know. Thank you for the great insight on conceal carry.
@Brndndutton
@Brndndutton Год назад
Came for the tactics... Stayed for the dry sense of humor. Awesomeness!!! 🙂
@chriscosby2459
@chriscosby2459 2 года назад
Every time I listen to Massad, I learn something. Sometimes several things.
@fasteagle9959
@fasteagle9959 Месяц назад
This dude is one of the top baritones in Arkansas. That much I can assure you. 💯
@prebaned
@prebaned Год назад
I don't know about AIWB carry. Sonny Crockett always carried full sized all steel semi autos in his Miami shoulder rig and his all steel Detonics on his ankle without any issue. Great stuff Mas...
@williamhoppe4500
@williamhoppe4500 2 года назад
I'm old, fat and set in my ways. I only carry my full size Beretta or G17 in a outside the waistband hip holster. Thanks for being my go to training expert for all of my adult life.
@nk-dw2hm
@nk-dw2hm 2 года назад
You are far more likely to die from being overweight than from an armed conflict, hope everyone is willing to invest a few minutes into themselves
@williamhoppe4500
@williamhoppe4500 2 года назад
@@nk-dw2hm There's always one of those dicks, aren't there? Why don't you start a channel for fitness tips for 72 year old disabled American Veterans like me? What motivates people like you? I'm ashamed of people that talk, oh wait, pontificate. like you.
@Valorius
@Valorius 2 года назад
@@williamhoppe4500 While insensitive, he did make a valid observation (which he probably wouldn't have made had he known you were in your 70s, unless he is a total jackass). Thanks for your service from a fellow veteran.
@Brett235
@Brett235 2 года назад
@@williamhoppe4500 don't take it so personal my friend. I'm overweight myself and I'm only 44. I have a few health issues that prohibit me from working out so I just watch what I eat. I am learning how to carry inside the waist band at 4:00 because I already look wide, outside the waistband would make me look like a mack truck.
@donf3877
@donf3877 2 года назад
@@williamhoppe4500 I wonder if he will have any "advise" for me on my post. Being a disabled Vet confined to a power scooter, I'm sure he thinks I am just "lazy" and should get out of it and exercise..................
@antonioaiello6588
@antonioaiello6588 8 месяцев назад
One of the best videos I’ve ever seen dealing with use of force was done by massad in the 80’s. I was barely born and he was dishing out knowledge most of my instructors at the sheriffs office don’t know. I am so thankful for his videos and they make me a safer more knowledgeable deputy so thank you.
@AB-kg6rk
@AB-kg6rk Год назад
Massads got that golden voice!
@patsparks8731
@patsparks8731 3 месяца назад
“Skinned the Chicken and Managed to tan the Hyde” that’s Mas Genius right there!! He’s the best!!
@johncook9983
@johncook9983 Год назад
Mr Ayoob, I have been following and digesting your knowledge since at least the 80’s when I was a kid reading gun rags. You are a treasure and appreciated more than I can express. Peace.
@BryanLyde
@BryanLyde Год назад
havent heard much discussion about bio-breaks and vehicles. a Con for AIWB is it's quite difficult to take a leak compared to other methods. AIWB is a plus when riding in vehicles as the seat belt does not interfere and the shirt can be tucked so the firearm is accessible from the seated position even faster.
@ted338
@ted338 7 месяцев назад
For everyday, around town, shopping, out to eat etc. IWB between 3:30-4:00. When driving more than an hour or so, I go cross draw.
@Hammerli280
@Hammerli280 2 года назад
Finally! Someone mentioned that AIWB requires a belt worn rather high on the body.
@LJ-jq8og
@LJ-jq8og 2 года назад
As always -- practical advice with integrity!
@SouthOfSanity79
@SouthOfSanity79 2 года назад
This guy is nothing short of phenomenal. And I am proud to say that he hails from my home state of New Hampshire. Maybe he wasn't born here but he put a lot of time in here in the Live Free Or Die state. God bless this man.
@tommy2buttz668
@tommy2buttz668 Год назад
@MeandMyStaffy yeah the license plate is cringe before cringe was a thing
@DanL57
@DanL57 Месяц назад
His grandparents immigrated to the US from Syria.
@bobdecker4551
@bobdecker4551 Месяц назад
Belly band holsters seem to be gaining some popularity. I find AIWB carry quite comfy using a belly band holster. It somewhat eliminates the need to wear the belt on the pants higher. It also allows concealed carry with pants/shorts choices that normally wouldn't allow IWB concealment... (draw string waists for example). I'd love to see Mr. Ayoob do a video on that option (assuming he hasn't already).
@Lewtuube
@Lewtuube Месяц назад
Im waiting on my cheap amazon one to come in to try it them out. Its got the pocket with the belt strap so you can clip any iwb holster into it. Also makes it easy to raise it up while driving so you can wear your seatbelt properly
@owendigity1581
@owendigity1581 2 года назад
Has this guy ever been in the same room as Sam Elliot? Friends for life.
@project86xero
@project86xero 2 года назад
You're right about those wider clips and loops for comfort. I make holsters for a living and the number of people who don't listen to me on that is surprising. Most of my customers want a single clip holster. Which is very versatile and can be comfortable with a lighter gun as well as the right belt. But the wider double loop/clip holsters are far more comfortable and stable in my experience.
@sqlb3rn
@sqlb3rn 2 года назад
On skinny dudes with small waists, the holster with 2 loops are often too much leather and kydex to stuff in the waist band. End up having pointy corners in the waist line around the hip. I can use a sticky holster no clips with a Glock 43 in the waist band and it will stay there all day.
@jason_m_schmidt622
@jason_m_schmidt622 Год назад
Wider clips and excellent construction is what makes Hidden Hybrid Holster the most comfortable for me.
@irishdefense77
@irishdefense77 2 года назад
I carry at 4-4:30 and have for 25 years-for the same reasons as Mas.I don’t want to learn a new way to do something I’m reflexive at,and I am still a Trooper so for me,it works.I have always carried in Mitch Rosen Gunleather because of your recommendation,and with his belt and mag pouch.It has been perfect,and I have converted many young Troopers to buying his gear,because it’s the best.My ARG,named after you-is and always will be my go to.
@irishdefense77
@irishdefense77 Год назад
@TJ Then you are not confident with the weapon system which tells me you need training.Once you are trained,you’ll have full confidence in the fact that a Glock WILL NOT FIRE unless you pull the trigger.This is a training issue.Get some good quality training and trigger time and you find that the Glock is absolutely the safest weapon you can carry-there are three internal safeties,and I have seen these weapons abused and dropped and covered in sand and seawater and they always function.I was in a elite unit in the military and when we switched to Glock from highly customized Browning Hi-Powers,I swore I’d never carry a Glock.I learned that they were just far superior to anything else we had access to.After leaving the military and getting on with SP,I already brought that unbelievable amount of training and combat experience with me,so training is the key.Good luck.
@nobody2021
@nobody2021 6 месяцев назад
Everybody says it as the default thing to do, but finding what works for you also extends to whether or not you should go up a pant size and add 2 in to the waist. For the longest time I did that and I never questioned it and just lived with the fitment issues and figured that's how carrying IWB is. I have a 32 waist and I have always worn 34 pants since I started carrying like a decade ago. A couple days ago I bought a pair of 32 pants and tried it because I was having hip pain with a stiffened belt, and it is solved every problem I've had with this over the years. The pants are tight enough that they can support the weight of the gun and the holster on their own, and now the only thing the belt is doing is providing placement, rotational, and draw retention. I am able to have my belt tight enough to do that, but loose enough that it's not hurting my hips. Also, my undershirt is not constantly pulling itself out of the waistband of my boxers anymore And my boxes are not riding up on the side where my holster is. For years and years, all throughout the day I would have to stop what I was doing and adjust my boxers and undershirt and get everything back in place, only for it to come undone again inevitably. I think my coworkers have just accepted that I'm a weirdo. I've been carrying IWB strong side at 4:00 for 2 days now with my regular pant size, 32, not added two inches in the waist, and I haven't had to do that a single time. Everything just works flawlessly and more comfortably and everything stays exactly where I put it when I left in the morning. The only thing adding 2 inches did was create enough slack in the regular waist band of my pants, that the belt needed to take up that slack and it created so many problems just from that one thing that i never questioned, just because I have never heard anyone else question it. Everyone says it as if it is default true no matter what. I assume it probably does work for the vast majority of people and that's why everyone says it's a good idea, but definitely doesn't work for everyone. It didn't work for me. It's never has.
@theplinkerslodge6361
@theplinkerslodge6361 2 года назад
One topic not covered by anyone I have listened to on RU-vid - restroom procedure? Urinals vs Stalls. I am not even kidding.
@danno1800
@danno1800 Год назад
You are the most remarkable man to explain things so difficult and making them so understandable! I have subscribed to hear more and more and more of what you have to tell us. Thank you - much appreciated…
@hesher7582
@hesher7582 2 года назад
wicked sense of humor. glad to see he’s still kicking ass. been reading his articles for 20 years.
@richardbristol452
@richardbristol452 Год назад
Mas just seems like he’d be a real hoot to hang out with.
@echoauxgen
@echoauxgen 2 года назад
One problem with your hosters, when out and about/travel and you have to sit down in the bathroom somewhere your gun in on the floor!!! The BodyGuard belly Band that is hard to find online. but can be found at some gun shows. It has a holster for two guns on both sides with two pockets for clips for each. The reason called Bodyguard is there are two other pockets for a radio and handcuffs BUT each will hold three clips each. I just rap each clip pocket with clear packing tape. Not worried for the extra gun so a carry of a big Glock 45 cal you will have two clips on each side and six clips in the added pockets. You put on backwards and velcro on then move around with gun to your right. Yes one size larger pants BUT even with shorts and a t-shirt no one will know you are carrying. I have been carrying mine this way since the early 90's. I was military now ex and learned the criminals are scared and most times have followers with them, you need the extra clips. Police carry two clips, Hey they wear a lot of extra stuff. Lastly if you carry you need body armor and there now is under shirt styles that have soft armor but you can slide metal plate in front of the soft. Yes a little heavy but better with a bruise/ broken ribs than a lot of fragments from hollow point. Also learn to shoot low, there are two main arteries in the groin and even a .22 cal will cause death, even the bad guys wear armor - think think plan and be ready!!
@chuckoaks6756
@chuckoaks6756 2 года назад
I started appendix about 2 years ago. I never thought I would like it but its great for me. I carry a cz compact pcr.
@jasonpadula4916
@jasonpadula4916 2 года назад
I carry a shield 2.0, and xds mod 2, 4" barrel appendix. I use the higher capacity magazine for each. It is the most effective concealment position for me, and I do not fear it.
@boomanh63
@boomanh63 2 года назад
I have more decades than I care to admit to carrying OWB. It has always worked for me and see no need to change at this point. The only other method I have used has been a crossdraw holster while seated driving for hours at a time. Same as the methods Mas talks about above, a quality crossdraw holster matched to a sturdy gunbelt makes this method work for people that need to have a pistol on their person while seated.
@larryray3178
@larryray3178 Год назад
I too carry crossdraw OWB only. Mine is a Smith & Wesson M & P Shield in .40 caliber. I don’t like IWB at all. Why .40 caliber? I wanted something with some knock down power. .45 is better but Smith & Wesson didn’t offer that caliber in an M &P Shield. There’s nothing better than a .45, unless it’s a .357 magnum. I have a belt & holster with a six shooter I acquired when I was considering cowboy action shooting, but I would feel somewhat inhabited to wear that instead.
@landon5583
@landon5583 2 года назад
This is the only time I’ve subscribed to a channel without having watched the video, for no other reason than this man’s voice and cadence
@Godfryness
@Godfryness Год назад
I carry a DA/SA AIWB. I feel safe as I too hold the hammer down as I holster up. I also work as a Paramedic and have now responded to two different missing appendage calls due to glocks and AIWB.
@MyAramil
@MyAramil 2 года назад
Pretty nice and informative video. Something I would mention for the appendix carry position is that with a decent "sweat shield" it can help push some of the larger users "tactical shelf" so slipping your thumb behind the grip is easier.
@stewartsrcpo
@stewartsrcpo 2 года назад
Thanks, Mas. Been following you for years. I carry a 1911 commander on my right hip w 2 wilson spares on my left rear hip using only Galco Conceable holster. That is my habituation for over 20 yrs and used to carry a full size 1911 that way. I cannot use an appendix carry due to extreme discomfort from a hernia surgery. I experimented w a Galco Miami Classic shoulder rig which I use, exclusively for hunting, as it was cumbersome and harder to conceal. I wear a Galco field belt that I have worn everday for 8 yrs and still going strong.
@Jason-um3tz
@Jason-um3tz 7 месяцев назад
Always great vids from this guy
@harold7142
@harold7142 Год назад
Funniest guy no comic’s ever heard of. Grew up reading his stuff in magazines. Thank you sir…
@70selvisfan
@70selvisfan 2 года назад
I've always stuck to OWB or pocket carry myself. I've got one of those "spare tires" Mas alludes to in the video. However, I'm thinking of giving IWB another go using some of his tips here. I normally carry a Glock 19, but also have a Gov't -sized 1911 that just doesn't go well with OWB concealed carry for me the way the Glock does. Thanks for all of the information!
@DanielERodriguezMusic
@DanielERodriguezMusic 2 года назад
I like AIWB a lot, and only because I have a kydex holster made specifically for my CCW that covers the trigger guard completely. And it’s double action. No printing.
@JG_1998
@JG_1998 Год назад
I recently lost a decent amount of weight, so now I can't fit my size 34 saint laurent jeans very well, but I just got a big ass glock .40 (g22) with a light on it that I'm using for EDC so now it looks like I may not have to sell all my denim.
@cwolff5119
@cwolff5119 Год назад
I like IWB cross draw because I'm seated a lot. You have to tweak the clips to get the angle right. IMO half kydex holsters on a fabric pad are most comfortable.
@Popogolfer
@Popogolfer 2 года назад
Thanks Mr Ayoob for your continued instruction. I have followed you since the days of the “Lethal Force Institute”. I too am a retired LEO and I agree with the habitual carry on the strong side 3:00 from duty wear. I transitioned to AIWB years ago off duty and haven’t gone back. I typically carry a CZ P-01 but sometimes in warmer months I will carry a Kahr PM 45 for better concealment. I feel much more comfortable with the CZ since it has an external hammer but the long double action only pull of the Kahr is also reassuring. I really cannot understand all these GLOCK junkies that carry AIWB. Glocks do exactly what they are designed to which is fire when trigger is pulled. I have seen many ND on You Tube video’s and most, if not all of the discharges happen with someone carrying a Glock AIWB. You can’t fix stupid, or educate it. Thank you
@CurtisBrandt
@CurtisBrandt 8 месяцев назад
Agree with you. I like appendix position but would never carry a striker fired pistol there. P-01 it is!
@ScrappyXGC
@ScrappyXGC 2 года назад
I don't wear any holster IWB, OWB in any position that I cannot clear my garment with the draw hand alone. My off hand has the duty of GTFOM with knife if need be to give me TIME, distance is time, them reacting to pain is time, I'll take whatever time I can get. Back up is always either hand accessible. The Gravest Extreme clarified my thoughts on redundancy in how you fight, you have two arms and two hands, one set may go down, have to be ready to use the other. SERPA's either at 3- or 6+ for that reason. Back-up (or church carry) is most often 6 - 7 (especially when I'm using the SERPA it's at 7 and SERPA's 0300 - 0230). Thumb's always out, bird finger and heel of thumb can begin formation of grip. Start slow, and get the foundation of your muscle memory, with the ring finger pulling your grip into the base of your palm. It's like a roll in,. Yes you can fire with index, bird, and only heel of thumb from the hip with your forearm creased by the base of the slide and I don't recommend it. Still it works 1911 or Glock, pushing forward! before the next shot. No matter how you choose to carry, muscle memory is paramount on your draw. Unload your pistol, and do it. Over and over. Don't like the position for your holster, change it. Don't like your carry holster, change it. Your life may depend on this. Do it over and over, no f' ups. Hopefully it will never come to your life depending on how you carry. You can be very sure that your confidence in yourself will matter even if you never have to draw. Many things in life will hinge on how you carry yourself, have confidence in the "push comes to shove" you'll shove and they won't like it. It's stopped others in my life without laying a hand on what I was about to shove with. They saw they were about to stop by my demeanor, so they did before it was made so. Constant carry means you must be ready to constantly deploy then employ. We have to practice both. Keep calm and carry on. Oh, hit if need be. Still all this is just me, I'm only alive by grace of God even if constant carry for over 3 decades, it's still by Him. I almost completely f'd up a few times, so it was Him.
@t.c.4933
@t.c.4933 3 месяца назад
This man has forgotten more than most people will ever learn! Thank you Wilson Combat for this series.
@garycampbell3404
@garycampbell3404 6 месяцев назад
You do such great videos. Calm authority with lots of info and just enough humor but no clowning around. I look forward to watching a bunch more.
@rangersmith4652
@rangersmith4652 2 года назад
I have tremendous respect for Mr. Ayoob, and the following comment has nothing to do with him as a person or as a CC expert. With so much focus on techniques and equipment to make concealed carry work, we sometimes forget that in many states and many venues, open carry is a legal option. And, of course, open carry always makes for a quicker and less obstructed draw than concealed carry. I know all about the arguments against open carry: you're the first one to get shot, someone's going to steal your gun, you're scaring people, etc. so please don't take this discussion there. I simply note that the concealed carry industry seems to want us to all to forget about open carry as an option, and that's not good for our right to keep and bear arms.
@gregb6469
@gregb6469 2 года назад
Open carrying also might get some ignorant Karen who doesn't know the law calling the cops on you. I'd rather avoid that and keep my gun hidden. But I am not bothered by others open-carrying, as long as they are not acting in a threatening manner.
@rangersmith4652
@rangersmith4652 2 года назад
@@gregb6469 Yeah, that can happen. But that's Karen's issue, not mine.
@gregb6469
@gregb6469 2 года назад
@@rangersmith4652 -- If some anti-gun cop [there are such creatures] shows up and starts giving you a hard time, it becomes your issue. Even if you are not arrested, your name will still be a police report, and you might get a reputation among the local constabulary as a trouble-maker. Far better to be unknown to the police.
@rangersmith4652
@rangersmith4652 2 года назад
@@gregb6469 I suppose that's possible, but it's also possible to carry "openly" and still blend in. There's open and then there's blatant.
@tracycrispino3446
@tracycrispino3446 2 года назад
Mas, as always…thank you for your insights and professionalism. I continue to learn from you with each episode. God Bless you for taking the time to educate us!
@gowilsoncombat
@gowilsoncombat 2 года назад
Much appreciated
@Valorius
@Valorius 2 года назад
@@gowilsoncombat Mas and Hackathorn are national treasures to the shooting community. Thanks for giving them a platform. Now if we could just get Gun Jesus on here!
@johnwhitley2898
@johnwhitley2898 Год назад
I carried my 1911 and used a few holsters, and quit buying. None worked for me. I made my own after taking any useful idea bits from the "pile". It's an OWB and sticks where I want it. I did the same for my IWB. Sticks and stays put. They are in the sphere of Mas's operational suggestions! Next is a cross draw holster for driving. It will have to wait until I get a couple of New belts made. The "old" belts are not up to the Job anymore..lol! Thanks Mas! I have listened to your insight for years. Just amazing!
@swampwhiteoak1
@swampwhiteoak1 4 месяца назад
Now retired, but during my high profile career at one time had four pending active death threats. Usually wearing a suit so one in a shoulder holster. If not wearing a suit, one in the briefcase. If no cover, one in an ankle holster. In three cases the detectives did good work and the bad people did time.
@garywatson
@garywatson Год назад
Thanks Mas, enjoyed your MAG20 class some years back. I might consider AIWB for one reason - nobody is likely to bump into you in the front and get startled by a weapon being there, as might happen with positions between 3 and 6 o'clock. A 1911 feels different than an iPhone.
@ronwillis9208
@ronwillis9208 Год назад
I'm experimenting with appendix carry after a lifetime of OWB / law enforcement carry. In retirement I'm limiting the pistols I carry that manner to small frame; Ruger LCP2 .380, Springfield XDs 9mm single stack 3" and sometimes as a backup with a Bond Arms 9mm derringer. I'm trying to deal with where the muzzle is pointed, but with my body type I have excellent concealment and comfort. The test goes on.
@jbean9021
@jbean9021 6 месяцев назад
I carry a glock 43x appendix and I’m definitely not skinny and I’ve found it to work pretty well. And it’s a 10 round mag with a very thin profile.
@davidmclaughlin2796
@davidmclaughlin2796 2 месяца назад
One of your best, Ayoob, thank you
@waynecassels3607
@waynecassels3607 2 года назад
Excellent information and lesson. Thank you.
@lawrencehudson9939
@lawrencehudson9939 2 года назад
Great presentation, well explained. I would love to see his suggestions for us wheel chair bound vets. There does not seem to be anything out there except shoulder holsters.
@gowilsoncombat
@gowilsoncombat 2 года назад
Great suggestion!
@tonylittle8634
@tonylittle8634 2 года назад
Have you tried a chest rig?
@h.g.higgins4521
@h.g.higgins4521 2 года назад
Really appreciate you guys.I'm old and need a lot of Training. Arthritis is a part of my life and I hope and pray I never have to shoot someone ever again.Just trying to be safe.Your right about extra fat around your body. Finding a good hoister is almost next to impossible with a gun they Don't make anymore.I own a Ruger P 90 no safeties on gun.But numerous hoister companies don't seem to carry a mold for it and can't make me a hoister. I only have owb boister made by Acua Mold which is great as it holds its shape so its easy to hoister minus the thump stap which is good to. The other hoister is a cheap leather one with no restraining device but have to loosen the belt to put gun back in.What about shoulder hoisters for me.Bra hoisters for my wife or purse hoisters which I think are unsafe if the criminal grabs your purse.What about thigh hoisters for women wearing dresses? As you have said and Mr Wilson Apedex carry is faster.I think I would have to go to a less than. 4 1/2 " barrel to make apedex carry work for me in tho owb would be really fast. I trust you guys judgment and a few others I occasionally listen to.My wife is into fashion and carry in her purse.Trying to give her greater options to carry and ability to protect when I'm gone.Got USCCA membership and insurance.Printing is a concern with me also as I always carry and a few times have to put my gun and extra magizines in the car because not allowed to carry into some place.Every bit of advice us appreciated so in case I every have to shoot someone again.I'm a former Marine of the Vietnam and spent 21 months there.
@woodslife
@woodslife Год назад
These videos are top shelf. Thank you!
@markpotochny56
@markpotochny56 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for your wisdom and guidance Mas, much appreciated,youre my go to instruct when i have questions and you and the rest at wilson always have well thought out and practical answers coming from years of experience
@salesfuel4u
@salesfuel4u 2 года назад
Another great video and overview. I can totally relate to the habituation element. As a former LEO, I’m definitely habituated to OWB carry even off-duty and now as a private citizen. The only other thing I’d add is the benefit of well made paddle holsters that allow easier removal of the holster rather than having to unthread from the belt.
@abstractapproach634
@abstractapproach634 Год назад
You certainly naturally blade away from people as well, important for y'all's gangster styles (behind 3 or 9) My gun has never gone off when I didn't want it to, I can draw at least 3 times faster this way, I have better concealment and it is already instinctual to protect that area of your body
@christianfritz6333
@christianfritz6333 2 года назад
I find that carrying iwb at about 2:30 with a forward cant works best for me, I find it prevents any irritation on the hip and also prevents printing from behind. I use the "y" but sweep from behind, I find it clears whatever garment I'm wearing and places my hand in the proper position to draw. There are some great points raised in this video, manditory info for those who carry.
@rich4137
@rich4137 Год назад
Thank you for your service. I appreciate you sharing in a concise manner.
@fight-sex-trafficking
@fight-sex-trafficking Год назад
I like these videos. Massed articulates the points extremely well.
@ejwoolz
@ejwoolz 2 года назад
Mas, I would appreciate your comments on a carry technique I've used for 30 years. It's a modified cross draw with an IWB holster at about the 9:30 position, with the muzzle at a 30° rearward angle, which brings the grip down and rests on or just above the belt. I've carried 4.25 inch 1911s and smaller, g23, and most recently a Sig 365 in this position very comfortably. The muzzle whether standing or sitting points just past the soft tissue of my left hip, to the floor. At no time does it flag my femoral artery or other important structures. Advantages: muzzle does not point at your, or anybody else's vitals. Just as quick as appendix without as much broadcasting your move. The draw is very subtle whether seen from the front, side or rear...there is no wild swinging or hiking of elbows as with the other carry modes. Your hand merely reaches just across midline at nearly a horizontal movement, like you're grabbing your belt buckle. Most people wouldn't recognize this movement as a draw, until the gun is out, which could give you an extra second or two. It is a very good position to draw from sitting in a car...you could pull and shoot through the door or window of your car in a carjacking situation, and the perpetrator would not even see the move...once again, imagine grabbing your belt buckle while sitting in your car. Unless you have a very large spare tire, printing is minimal, on the order of appendix carry. Unlike 3:30 or 6:00 carry, being disarmed from behind is impossible.
@TheSilverbullet99
@TheSilverbullet99 2 года назад
like a cowboy movie carry
@snek9353
@snek9353 2 года назад
I'm not Mas, but that's interesting, I like the sitting aspects. However I could think of two downsides. 1. It's easy to block your draw, as your arm is across your body anyone(thing) in front of you needs only press against your arm or body to prevent your draw. 2. It's a rather large movement and thus slower to get muzzle to target.
@Jb429421
@Jb429421 2 года назад
This is very close to how I carry and for many of the same reasons. I carry a 3 inch 7 shot revolver. I'm thin but have a belly. The gun lies in a " cavity" that is created between my hip and gut. Depending on clothing I alternate between inside and outside the waistband in nearly the same position I feel it gives me most of the advantages of appendix but safer, more comfortable sitting and driving. One advantage to carrying towards the front is fidgit factor. When carrying behind the hip you never know if your shirt has shifted and your printing ect with the gun in the front you can just glance at your shoes and be reassured about printing. It sounds like your gun is more canted than mine but otherwise very similar. It's a method so rarely talked about that you 🤔 why? I would love to see Massad's thoughts on this as well.
@ejwoolz
@ejwoolz 2 года назад
@@snek9353 The butt of the gun sits about 2" to the left of my belt buckle, in fact if it's a larger gun, I have to slide my buckle to the right a inch or two to keep it from rubbing on the finish of the gun. So it's not really a long draw...it's just like grabbing your belt buckle. Maybe I should have called it 10 o'clock. The gun sits diagonally with the muzzle in front of your left hip and the butt rests on your belt just to the left (as you look down) of your buckle. While I agree someone could grab your arm and stop your draw, it would be very similar to appendix in that regard. 3-6 o'clock carries have vulnerabilities from the rear that appendix and this carry do not however. Seems rather easier to avoid a block in front of you than a sneak attack from behind.
@ejwoolz
@ejwoolz 2 года назад
@@TheSilverbullet99 Yes, similar, though more up front and more horizontal than you usually see in cowboy movies. Watch the shootout between Doc Holliday (Val Kilmer) and Jonny Ringo in Tombstone...similar to how Holliday is carrying, only slightly more horizontal.
@roygaisser9230
@roygaisser9230 2 года назад
Thanks so much Mr. Mas for the (always) informative vid. I typically carry a small 9 or .45 at about 4:30. I really like what Mas said, as I have said it to anyone will listen for years..."Concealed means concealed!" Don't want to wander too far from the topic though. I can NOT make myself carry APPENDIX IWB, it just ain'ta gonna happen. I know, I know bunches of y'all carry that way (safely, so far) every day. But I have tried every totable size handgun I own, in multiple IWB holsters, from El Cheapo to Primo and just can not get over the fact that my loaded powerhouse, defensive miracle of tech is pointed squarely at my junk and/or femoral artery! Jeff Cooper has got to be spinning fast right now, as you all know AIWB violates #2 of Col. Cooper's codified commandments. I mean, sure my boy is not really the most important thing in the world now (as he was 45 years ago). But he doesn't deserve THAT, he doesn't deserve to be shot just because we don't go on adventurous escapades bringing joy and satisfaction everywhere any longer! No. I just will not do it to him. So, I'll keep experimenting with wild new carry positions, sometimes varying from my usual 4:30 to 4:15 or 4:45 even, but no thanks at all for AIWB.
@Broken_Arrow58
@Broken_Arrow58 2 года назад
Tell your bosses at Wilson you're the reason I subscribed.
@deltron3030z
@deltron3030z 5 месяцев назад
Love your holster review Massad 🙏✌️
@Jleitte
@Jleitte 2 года назад
Outstanding video! As a retired law enforcement professional, I started caring appendix and have decided to go back to the 3:30 position after watching this great video. Thank you for your great clarification.
@Valorius
@Valorius 2 года назад
I will never understand why people hate their junk enough to point a muzzle directly at it several times a day.
@Doc41295
@Doc41295 2 года назад
@@Valorius Because it's the most comfortable IWB option, because I trust my pistol not to go off on it's own, because it allows for the fastest possible draw, because it's the easiest position to defend in hand-to-hand, and because it's the easiest position to holster safely. I can't easily look at a holster at the 4:00 but I can very easily look straight down and make sure there's nothing in the holster. It's a great option.
@Valorius
@Valorius 2 года назад
@@Doc41295 For my money 4 oclock IWB is vastly more comfortable than AIWB. AIWB is a torturous mode of carry. Who said anything about the gun going off by itself? Things get in holsters. T-shirts, drawstrings, or whatever else. There is certainly plenty of videos of foreign objects causing NDs. And if that happens while you AIWB, you're fked but good. It is definitely NOT the easiest to draw or holster safely. It is in fact the most hazardous way to draw and holster. Dont believe me? Sit down in your car....now draw or reholster without muzzling yourself. Oh right, impossible. Completely 100% impossible. You WILL muzzle yourself every single time you draw or reholster while seated. If watching 1000s of real gunfight videos on ASP and other channels has taught me anything, it's that speed of draw is darned near totally irrelevant in actual citizen involved gunfights. It's about "waiting your turn" to launch your counter ambush (or pre-empting the bad guys draw). People who try to speed draw into guns almost always get totally wrecked for their troubles. As far as speed, here is a short 12 sec vid of me drawing one handed from 4 o clock, at night, with my flashlight between my teeth and my phone recording in my right hand, and putting 4 shots on a spinner, with first shot on target in about 1 second: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AvGs8kWkSbo.html And none of this is even getting into the fact that in a struggle the opponent is going to try to push that gun right back into your belly/groin as you draw, where, again, if it goes off, that round is going right into your family jewels or femoral artery....and it will be presented front and center for him in a ground grappling scenario as well. Just ask George Zimmerman. I want my body between my gun and any bad guy, as it is 4 o clock. AIWB is definitively and demonstrably the least safe option, by far. Not even close.
@Followme556
@Followme556 2 года назад
@@Doc41295 I think, based on decades of professional concealed carry, that AIWB is as close to a retarded thing as an intelligent man can do. I would outline my reasons, but the other guy that responded to you was pretty darned thorough, and there's not much to add.
@Valorius
@Valorius 2 года назад
@@Doc41295 BTW, there is a video of an AIWB glock apparently going off on it's own AFTER a guy has properly reholstered his pistol, who then bends down to pick up his range bag. Best part is after he shoots himself in the balls he totally disregards the safety of everyone else present and rips out the gun and throws it on the ground. I'm sure right up until the very second that glock went BOOM he would've argued at great length on youtube about how he is totally competent, and how his gun will never just go off, and how AIWB is totally safe. Don't be that guy.
@mikebabb2155
@mikebabb2155 2 года назад
I have been carrying for years and after trial and error I figured out that the best carry position for my tiny butt is about the 2 o'clock using an iwb hybrid holster. At one point I tried appendix and it was awful. The holster dug into my legs, the way the holster set no matter how I adjusted it the waist band of my pants and my belt got in the way when drawing the pistol and even with a claw to push the grip in towards my body the grip was still sticking out extremely far. The grip was honestly sticking out like two inches or more so there was no concealing it. However at the 2 o'clock the grip kind of follows along with my body shape even though it does print because of how skinny I am. But most people do not notice. It also has the added benefit of being very comfortable and even carrying a full size 1911 I almost forget that I have it on my hip. I have to give credit where credit is due and say that part of that is thanks to my rigger's belt. A good belt makes a big difference!
@doc_sav
@doc_sav 2 года назад
What a freakin' legend. I have read several of his books. Always learn something valuable.
@adamthompson4979
@adamthompson4979 2 года назад
Great video as always. I tried AIWB. It is faster. What I found is my pelvis tilts anterior, or forward, too much and the pistol prints too much. I am working on my posture. I carry about 330 to 4 strong side and with A LOT of practice can get my draw to anatomical significant hit to about 1.8 seconds.
@marshalllanier360
@marshalllanier360 Год назад
Sir, I have read your columns and articles in various gun publications for years. I have the utmost respect for your insights and opinions. Very informative video listing the pros and cons of each. What is your opinion of SOB carry (small of the back)
@kitsune303
@kitsune303 Год назад
Well done as always.
@JayB-bq7hh
@JayB-bq7hh Год назад
Great video Massad !!!! As always............👍
@showtime2629
@showtime2629 2 года назад
I've been carrying appendix for years. For me it's just got so many benefits. I find it more comfortable and more concealable. I don't have to worry about someone grabbing my gun from behind. If the gun is uncomfortable I can easily bump it without anyone thimking much about it. It could be very dangerous though, but it's not hard to confirm reholstering because it's in front of you.
@understandingtruth10
@understandingtruth10 2 года назад
Appendix carry it was my first and probably will be what I always use for concealed carry. Normally I carry a Sigsauer 232, or a Russian Makarov. On days I feel the threat is higher, A full size Glock 17. Thank you for the good knowledgeable advice. A good thing to note is that some guns are much safer than others for appendix carry.
@ignatiusduggan9831
@ignatiusduggan9831 2 года назад
I have the sig 232, where did you get a good holster for it?
@understandingtruth10
@understandingtruth10 2 года назад
It’s always better to buy quality leather something kind of slim if you’re going inside the waistband with a metal clip I would look around on eBay typically holsters that fit the Walther PP fit the 232 good, same with bursa thunder.
@pland99
@pland99 Год назад
I'm here because a pos comment was made concerning cop verdict in Atatiana case,glad I became aware of his videos!
@nicholaswheeler5119
@nicholaswheeler5119 5 месяцев назад
Thank you sir for this video! Straight forward and helped me figure what I need to carry.
@JosephAnthonyJosefius
@JosephAnthonyJosefius 2 года назад
When I carry appendix IWB, I carry a DOA H&K P30SK LEM in a kydex holster made for it. Works great for me. Otherwise I'm carrying IWB at 4oclock with a CZ 75 D or the Jericho 941.
@eg7381
@eg7381 2 года назад
I also AIWB carry a LEM P30SK with a JM Custom Kydex holster.
@hillsman9199
@hillsman9199 2 года назад
The Jericho is an amazing pistol. Great choice my friend.
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