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Catholic Answers Senior Apologist Jimmy Akin explains the reasons why Origen is classified as an Ecclesiastical Writer rather than a Church Father.
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@datdat2020
@datdat2020 10 лет назад
One of the central pieces of evidence that the fifth ecumenical council did not intend to condemn belief in universal salvation as such, but only Origen's particular version of it, is that Gregory of Nyssa was never condemned for his belief in universal salvation. Gregory's universalism was not related to any notions of human beings pre-existing in a purely spiritual state in heaven, and so his type of universalism was never condemned. That he was never deemed heretical is high significant, given his authority and stature in the early church. Gregory of Nyssa was a key formulator of orthodox doctrine, and had a large role in the production of the Nicene Creed. He was so highly revered that at the seventh ecumenical council in 787, he was given the title "father of fathers" and is still revered as such today. Since we can reasonably suppose an ecumenical council would not give such high honors to someone who held a view that was deemed heretical by a previous ecumenical council, we can safely assume that the fifth ecumenical council did not intend, and was not later understood as intending, to condemn belief in universal salvation as such. Of course this is a western perspective of the 5th ecumenical council that these gentlemen are presenting.
@MrDoremouse
@MrDoremouse 12 лет назад
Well I'm rather ATTRACTED to Origen's alleged 'universalist' teachings, but I read on an early Church website that the book that mentions the final salvation of all (and even speculates on reincarnation) has a preface that says that what he is about to say is philosophical/theological speculation, and not necessarily he own views. I'm not Catholic myself, but respect Catholics; I came here looking for Origen. Peace.
@renlamomtsopoe
@renlamomtsopoe Год назад
What qualifies one as a Church Father?
@ComradeAgopian
@ComradeAgopian 12 лет назад
@gtepp031387 , When you have as many commentaries as he wrote , you can toss out the charge of heretic .
@gtepp031387
@gtepp031387 13 лет назад
Origen was a heritic who was excommunicated in the 5th ecumentical council.
@blackhumanity103
@blackhumanity103 12 лет назад
No spirit will be lost sounds like Islam....
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