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Is Overwatch BETTER than Valorant? 

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@failedorgan8747
@failedorgan8747 Год назад
I can assure you the overwatch devs do not give a shit about us
@Star-py8zl
@Star-py8zl Год назад
They do ,did you hear about next season they going to put the game currency in the battlepass and they making some ways or credits to help us get skins faster also nerfed roadhog and that other dps yeh they do care 🙂 what else they want them to do more then that plus events
@joshuajohn74
@joshuajohn74 Год назад
and thats why i love valorant they even gave us a lore which we built off on we love em
@devislittlesister3135
@devislittlesister3135 Год назад
@@joshuajohn74 ow has lore too
@3ventide
@3ventide Год назад
Overwatch lore much deeper dude
@Offwhitekeyboard
@Offwhitekeyboard Год назад
@@Star-py8zlnah since they made the game f2p it just kinda became skilless. One the ranking system is the worst ranking system of any competitive game in existence. Even the devs came out and said it’s a bad system and they never changed it. How you going to have a system that doesn’t tell you if you are losing or gaining SR ? Nerfing road hog was dumb, he wasn’t the problem, Kiriko was, devs don’t know how to balance. They also “ reworked “ Soujourn and she became stronger lmao. When Jeff was head of the dev team game was much smoother, didn’t have everything behind a paywall, and they genuinely cared about the community.
@oberdot
@oberdot Год назад
“Coming from someone who played CS all his life, Valorant just doesn’t feel like CS” … okay 😂
@ajrazberry
@ajrazberry Год назад
“No shit, Sherlock” is all I could say😂😂🤦🏼‍♂️
@fab9207
@fab9207 Год назад
Bro it did all but say it was the csgo killer, then failed
@roryfree4707
@roryfree4707 Год назад
I mean obviously "like" means "as good as" in this context
@nicestfilms22
@nicestfilms22 Год назад
@@fab9207valorant is better than CS lol if you’re talking over game quality. Because it’s so much newer and aspects that weren’t in CS are in it. But in terms of gameplay still prolly CSGO
@kuratse205
@kuratse205 Год назад
​@@nicestfilms22 Valo's movement is just really bad. It feels slow and sticky. But the main thing that makes CSGO far superior is just the sounds. The crispy smooth sounds just makes it so much more rewarding to shoot and hit heads.
@donoes99
@donoes99 Год назад
Most biased csgo player saying valorant is a slow game just made my day
@jarifahmed977
@jarifahmed977 Год назад
Yeah, I'm from battle royales and don't feel it slow
@minhocho5487
@minhocho5487 Год назад
@@Gerkan23 As a game, Overwatch, which is a successor to TF2 in alot of ways is better and skillful than valorant can ever dream of. The team composition that drastically alters the gameplay, the crazy plays you can do etc. Now if we factor in the support the devs pit into the game, valorant is better. Still at the end of the day, Valorant is a mid game carried by the qol features.
@minhocho5487
@minhocho5487 Год назад
@@Gerkan23 Valorant is a fps game to its core meaning as long as you are tuned with traditional fps fundementals, you will do decntly well. Overwatch is a mix of a MOBA and fps menaing you also have to factor in resource management much more than Valorant. By design, it is much more complex than Valorant will ever be. It also has a tank, dps, support distiction. The reason why I said it in that tone is you, having essentilaly no experience and knowledge of Overwatch, said that it was wrong to have Overwatch above Valorant. Now would I ever fault you for liking Valorant more than Overwatch? No, never. Everyone like different things and Valorant is a decent game. Are you wrong for saying Valorant requires more skill than Overwatch? 100% yes becaus you seem to lack basic knowledge about video games.
@questionable_live
@questionable_live Год назад
When did the guy who said he played CSGO say this your completely meshing two different takes which makes no sense.
@sleepisgood2936
@sleepisgood2936 Год назад
I mean he is not lying, valorant is slow unlike csgo that its fast, just play csgo and you can feel the difference in gameplay, i played csgo for 5 years but recently im not playing it anymore because im currently playing valorant with my friends, i still play csgo time to time but just playing valorant is slow compared to csgos gun play
@Ian-wi8je
@Ian-wi8je Год назад
"slow, choppy, stodgy game." immediately shows raze double satchel over sage wall
@hexafps
@hexafps Год назад
Yeah only good thing abput valorant movement is raze
@IronMan-jj2fd
@IronMan-jj2fd Год назад
U know valorant is a copy of overwatch right?
@bigglenator
@bigglenator Год назад
​@@IronMan-jj2fdLMAO ok
@sajalmajumder1296
@sajalmajumder1296 Год назад
​@@hexafps Sage, Neon, Yoru laughing in the corner
@Wheatifyy
@Wheatifyy Год назад
@@hexafps Neon, Jett, Omen
@Ex3ox
@Ex3ox Год назад
Comparing a tactical shooter to a fast paced shooter 💀
@needstoast
@needstoast Год назад
That’s kinda the whole point of deciding which one you want to put higher than the other in the same tier
@Ex3ox
@Ex3ox Год назад
@@needstoast one of his reasons was that valorant is slow. It’s a tactical shooter of course it’s going to be slow compared to overwatch. That’s not really a good reason.
@brown9671
@brown9671 Год назад
@@Ex3ox Val is a rip off of cs but cs feels faster. Valorant isn’t just a slow shooter, if feels slow as a tactical shooter too. It feels like the slowest game on the market honestly.
@tylerxic3241
@tylerxic3241 Год назад
@@brown9671 its not a rip off though val has ults agents with different abilities satisfying kills and a much more harder but funner shooter game to learn just because you dont like slowed paced shooters doesn’t mean anyone else wouldnt either.
@brown9671
@brown9671 Год назад
​@@tylerxic3241 val is based off cs like 90%. and sure theres ults and abilities, but honestly theres only like 4 types of abilities in val which are just csgo smokes, flashes. val has movement abilites that cs doesnt but cs has bhop and surf. val IS a rip off you cant debate it, not even heavy inspiration, like riot intentionally was trying to make csgo2: hero shooter edition.
@junhon05
@junhon05 Год назад
“Content is everything, its nice to play a game where it feels like the devs actually care about the community” totally not blizzard that killed ow1 by not updating for 3 years and screwed up the release of ow2 and made literally everyone mad
@SynthGirl64
@SynthGirl64 Год назад
I also do not like overwatch, he was talking about csgo though, the content updates for that game have always been nuts
@AskTheMasked
@AskTheMasked Год назад
​@@SynthGirl64 I'm pretty sure he was talking about valorant was he not? They even showed a clip of gameplay and in CS you don't "place a smoke" lol
@Anonymous-td9fl
@Anonymous-td9fl Год назад
@@SynthGirl64 csgo devs caring about the community is one of the funniest jokes i've heard, thnx
@SynthGirl64
@SynthGirl64 Год назад
@@Anonymous-td9fl they don't. Csgo Devs don't develop though, the community does. And the community does care about the community 👍
@eatingdirt4
@eatingdirt4 Год назад
you're deliberately misunderstanding what he's saying so you can farm likes lmao
@chickencurryrbx
@chickencurryrbx Год назад
I love it when people compare two shooting games with different mechanics and say the other one is better
@neilnair5388
@neilnair5388 Год назад
They didnt say which is a better shooter, they were comparing 2 games on the level of fun…and you can compare even red dead rdemption to need for speed for the fun you get from the games
@Chinesetakeout382
@Chinesetakeout382 Год назад
I think it’s more about their personal enjoyment, and in this case, overwatch is way easier for most people to enjoy.
@ElMigol_
@ElMigol_ Год назад
@@neilnair5388 They literally said that overwatch is better than Valorant.
@12345kaizer
@12345kaizer Год назад
Overwatch is objectively better
@vinceboros6154
@vinceboros6154 Год назад
I can say Hitler is a worse pearson that Messi even tough they did different things
@CoeGr
@CoeGr Год назад
"Valorant doesn't feel like Counter-strike" No shit Sherlock.
@FireDarkNinja
@FireDarkNinja Год назад
They’re saying it doesn’t evoke the same good feelings that CS does.
@Harry_D0
@Harry_D0 Год назад
@@FireDarkNinja the problem with that is because the feeling is not the game, it’s then. In years when valorant is a game and the people who grew up with it will say the same damn thing
@Harry_D0
@Harry_D0 Год назад
Plus the main reason is nostalgia, he said it himself that hes playing cs for most of this life which means no matter what, it’s gonna have a special place in his heart
@FireDarkNinja
@FireDarkNinja Год назад
@@Harry_D0 And in my opinion that's 100% ok. Games provoke a certain feeling in us and sometimes those opinions are biased and inseparable from our minds. It will continue to happen and that's fine by me.
@snopdogg2x
@snopdogg2x Год назад
They are nearly the same game with the same premise and same elements. One just has abilities, the other one doesn't.
@Bluecat487
@Bluecat487 Год назад
"Slow and choppy game" continues to show intense clips
@larry2281
@larry2281 Год назад
It is ironic but Valorant typically is a slow and choppy game. Mechanics of the game are definitely choppy at least.
@michaelmartin4842
@michaelmartin4842 Год назад
That’s intense to you? Overwatch is going to give you a stroke
@michaelmartin4842
@michaelmartin4842 Год назад
@@larry2281it’s also a blatant copy of overwatch
@larry2281
@larry2281 Год назад
@@michaelmartin4842 it’s a blatant copy of both csgo and overwatch
@itoitonomi1849
@itoitonomi1849 Год назад
Valorant is dog shit and I hate overwatch
@AnikethBandi
@AnikethBandi Год назад
Overwatch's core gameplay is one of the most fun gameplay out there, the problem is just that blizzard abandoned it, hopefully overwatch 2 is supported.
@holymotherofchicken
@holymotherofchicken Год назад
This aged well 😆 devs don't give a shit about ow2 either
@AnikethBandi
@AnikethBandi Год назад
@@holymotherofchicken Wasn't a dev issue. Leaks said basically Blizzard Execs were responsible for the thing. They didn't give the devs enough time or resources to actually get the game done because they realized the pve wouldn't be long time profit.
@holymotherofchicken
@holymotherofchicken Год назад
@aniketh bandi thanks for the fact check :)
@nex5691
@nex5691 11 месяцев назад
@@AnikethBanditbh it’s all Bobby’s idea who did this repeatedly so the ow team would get so much hate while Bobby is basically protected from all the hate nah that didn’t work out he got exposed
@Sleepylevi
@Sleepylevi Месяц назад
Overwatch 2 is doing great. And the new support is very fun to play. Yall nerds hate just to hate
@TF2Legacy
@TF2Legacy Год назад
S-tier for tf2 plz. Survived without major updates for 1000+ days, successfully fought back against the Bot Invasion, stayed alive for more than 13 years, etc.
@a.w_.
@a.w_. Год назад
S-tier for you and a lot of hardcore fans but definitely more of a cult classic these days than universally loved. it's not going to be at that level for everyone.
@KurtIsFat
@KurtIsFat Год назад
Yeah TF2 revolutionized in-game economy and trading in general
@uglycommander008
@uglycommander008 Год назад
I think if the marketplace never existed a bigger competitive scene may have arisen. Then TF2 would've been S-Tier. Different timeliness ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@periachi4961
@periachi4961 Год назад
It's the GOAT multiplayer game.
@lemonthepogboi5351
@lemonthepogboi5351 Год назад
TF2 is the father of Valorant and Overwatch through the agent mechanics
@avoidthevo1d
@avoidthevo1d Год назад
At least i can unlock agents in Valorant without going through 65 levels of a battlepass
@leotop6351
@leotop6351 Год назад
but you still need like 5 levels after activating his contract, so like 7 games per level?
@avoidthevo1d
@avoidthevo1d Год назад
@@leotop6351 Still better than OW2
@existence.5806
@existence.5806 Год назад
@@avoidthevo1d cope
@crystal7143
@crystal7143 Год назад
Cope
@junilog
@junilog Год назад
Agents in Valorant take more game hours to unlock compared to Overwatch 2
@TooslowOW
@TooslowOW Год назад
The score saying something good about OW never thought I’d see the day
@Karr1711
@Karr1711 Год назад
csgo fanboys do everything to hate on valo, even beeing positive about ow
@MontySlython
@MontySlython Год назад
​@@Karr1711 he's not wrong though, overwatch is a lot more fun to watch than valorant, theres a lot more going on and gameplay is faster
@puretestoster1
@puretestoster1 Год назад
@@Karr1711 valorant lost a lot of players when ow2 released. i've been playing val since june 2021 with ~800 hours and $200 spent but overwatch has just been infinitely more captivating
@lost_flower4412
@lost_flower4412 Год назад
​​@@puretestoster1 id do like to actually see the numbers, it isnt like playing one makes you abandon the other
@Karr1711
@Karr1711 Год назад
@@puretestoster1 thats fine. everyone got his own taste. i just think it`s stupid to say stuff like "ow is infinetly more fun", acting like it`s objective when it`s obvisiously not.
@theanti-hypemonitor9079
@theanti-hypemonitor9079 Год назад
if youve ever watched a competetive OW game, you'd agree. these guys are INSANE
@BabyBlueval
@BabyBlueval Год назад
I love people who are playing all competetive games for like 10 hours, they dont learn mechanics of the games, but they are doing tier list and talking like experts.
@werenostrangerstolove7739
@werenostrangerstolove7739 Год назад
i don't think someone who treats valve games like a cult is qualified to talk
@fermantgg7887
@fermantgg7887 Год назад
valorant is mid though ☠️
@werenostrangerstolove7739
@werenostrangerstolove7739 Год назад
Sure, and csgo can be low
@jejelmao6563
@jejelmao6563 Год назад
@@fermantgg7887 debatable but ok lol
@spiderhabibi9351
@spiderhabibi9351 Год назад
​@@fermantgg7887 nah the skins and the game better and mordern cs go has the choppiest most 2001 animations
@Anonymous-td9fl
@Anonymous-td9fl Год назад
@@fermantgg7887 csgo, a game where you dont hit 50% of your first shot on your crosshair. cool
@pedrinhobit
@pedrinhobit Год назад
The thing he said at the end is really real for me. I prefer watching CS, but I’d rather play Valorant.
@clemensherrmann6350
@clemensherrmann6350 Год назад
?
@schizballs
@schizballs Год назад
How is wanting to play the game a negative
@pedrinhobit
@pedrinhobit Год назад
@@schizballs It's not, I love valorant
@schizballs
@schizballs Год назад
@@pedrinhobit i know but they were making a case for why valorant is worse than overwatch and then he says he wants to play it lmao
@Fluskar
@Fluskar Год назад
same
@eSPadon-aMawileFan
@eSPadon-aMawileFan Год назад
I was gonna say some shit like "what are they on ? smh" until I realised the place they gave to Fortnite and CoD so I don't even want trying to argue with psychopaths
@Kumo_Artics
@Kumo_Artics Год назад
Agreed
@xornedge8204
@xornedge8204 Год назад
CoD is great tho. Fortnite not so much but CoD is a classic for a reason. Great gameplay, great story. Val is meh on both. Still my most played game but I can see it’s faults clearly.
@Vulkanius95
@Vulkanius95 Год назад
Same 🤣
@pippuu
@pippuu Год назад
theres no fortnite in this clip tho
@xastric6944
@xastric6944 Год назад
​@@pippuu he saw fort and instantly thought it was fortnite lmaooo.
@buzzybuzzbzzbzztpsst
@buzzybuzzbzzbzztpsst Год назад
Sorry but overwatch is infinitely more interesting than valo. Overwatch's variety is unmatched. Every hero feels very different, they have very different abilities and weapons like swords/bows, accurate snipers, cryo cannons, healing/damage boosting staves, wall climbing, wall riding, and a lot more. Most valo characters just have a smoke with minor tweaks, a movement ability, a grenade, one ability that actually feels unique and the exact same weapon mechanics
@arbre_mystique
@arbre_mystique Год назад
*blizzard not knowing wtf they’re doing* These guys: “it’s nice to see a game where the developers care about the game”
@Mat69420k
@Mat69420k Год назад
Pretty sure they were talking about Valorant
@arbre_mystique
@arbre_mystique Год назад
@@Mat69420k ah, I thought they were talking about why overwatch was before valorant
@satyamrajput725
@satyamrajput725 Год назад
​@@arbre_mystique me who thought they were talking abt cs 🤯
@arbre_mystique
@arbre_mystique Год назад
@@satyamrajput725 lol seems like no one knows what they’re talking about
@cr9281
@cr9281 Год назад
​@@arbre_mystique its was quite obvious they were talking about Valorant lol ur just stupid
@Cyneo630
@Cyneo630 Год назад
This is the most cooked take of 2022
@bhawkis5755
@bhawkis5755 Год назад
Fr these boomers clearly have strong opinions about games, glasses guy is getting real emotion about a game he doesn’t play. Calling valorant slow is only something a hater of the game would say. Someone is just a little upset about another games success
@MrFurmos
@MrFurmos Год назад
@@bhawkis5755 Valorant is extremely slow. Just like CSGO. Your job (very vaguely said) is to either hold a position for minutes on end or push that position via smokes, flashes and different tactics. Both the attacked and the deffender need to spend unfun resources like flashes and smokes, that damage/stun/blind the opponent so they can take or deffend the 1 point you want. Thats not fast. Thats extremely slow. Atleast compared to Overwatch or lets say Call of Duty. Can you sprint in Valorant? No. Can you dash/slide in Valorant? I think only the dagger girl can do that. And if we are talking straight up from POV of who did more for gaming, Overwatch or Valorant its not even a question. Overwatch, TF2 and CSGO is literally the only reason Valorant exists.
@retroslaps
@retroslaps Год назад
@@MrFurmos Yes and valorant is still better than all three. OW2 Is straight trash
@xornedge8204
@xornedge8204 Год назад
@@retroslaps cap. OW2 is a much better game than Valorant will ever even hope to be.
@witchblade8595
@witchblade8595 Год назад
@@xornedge8204 and ow is gonna die omegalul
@justhumani8475
@justhumani8475 Год назад
I like when they say that valorant is slow (which it can be) but have in the background clips of a raze satchel across the map.
@kikirix184
@kikirix184 Год назад
One ability does not make game faster
@charleywilson2146
@charleywilson2146 Год назад
@@kikirix184 yes…but Valorant isn’t slow unless your duelists are ass…you should be executing onto site really quickly and getting the bomb planted before the enemy team knows what hit them. Post plant is slower…but Valorant is not a slow game.
@Jigen311
@Jigen311 Год назад
​@@kikirix184it does? heroes being able to make the pace faster makes the game faster, herpa derpa
@bluobo
@bluobo Год назад
@@kikirix184let’s see, Jett’s dash, her updraft, raze satchel, neon run, yoru ult, yoru tp, chamber tp, literally any flash, should I continue?
@lunaFreya141
@lunaFreya141 Год назад
​@@kikirix184 I bet Bronze right? Go to higher elo and see how quick shit happens you wouldn't even have time to think what's happening.
@whyareless
@whyareless Год назад
I'm the opposite. I really enjoy watching the VALORANT eSports but barely play the game.
@brandonquan9127
@brandonquan9127 Год назад
Same. Playing the actual game frustrates me. But watching others feels good.
@N1GHTM4R3W0LF
@N1GHTM4R3W0LF Год назад
Yeah, the balance system and shitty teammates really ruin the tactical aspect of valorant. You can only really hope to be strategic and tactical starting from high plat or high diamond, depending on your personal expectation of tactical
@joewhosjoe2233
@joewhosjoe2233 Год назад
Amen. I'm playing rn but honestly i'll stop soon and just watch Ascension and League because i'll be busy and rather watch and have fun, than play and suffer for an ounce of fun of the latter.
@edwardwongliupepelutivrusk1262
Just like Riot other game
@anut8733
@anut8733 Год назад
It comes to the point where there always be that one player who take the game too seriously even rage and blaming teammates in an UNRATED or SPIKE RUSH MATCH! I play the game mostly just for fun now, but these kind of players ruin it for everyone.
@okdarius
@okdarius Год назад
Did bro just say OW requires more skill than val? Surely on drugs
@Bootymuncher23
@Bootymuncher23 Год назад
It does when you get in the higher ranks while valorant you can just stop a push with cypher or kj
@okdarius
@okdarius Год назад
@@Bootymuncher23 yeah i mean as a former cs player i know how easy valorant is as a game, i just never found ow to have harder fundamentals than cs/val but then again i never was a hardcore ow gamer so idk
@nex5691
@nex5691 11 месяцев назад
It does when u reach plat, diamond, gm, and top500 ranks Like high ranks on ow are pretty skilled since u need strategy and teamwork to win While in valorant I can do whatever tf u want even solo the entire game yea u can work as a team but u can solo the entire match and win which most of my teammates in valo think they are the next tenz lol they aren’t they stupid
@billyphatom3436
@billyphatom3436 11 месяцев назад
@@okdariusValorant is more aim-based. OW demands more mechanical skills and placement, plus map knowledge. For example, Lucio.
@its_saber1525
@its_saber1525 10 месяцев назад
​@@billyphatom3436But what I'd say makes OW harder is how it relies a lot more on the team
@XXWildWolf
@XXWildWolf Год назад
I think that valorant is more fun to watch with people that aren’t that familiar in esports cause how tf do you explain nano blade to your dad
@IronMan-jj2fd
@IronMan-jj2fd Год назад
Also the overall visual chaos is more in overwatch, it might be too confusing for new watchers!
@Metz.BrodyA
@Metz.BrodyA Год назад
Well said as someone who plays both you can look at Valorant go oh that guy got shot by that guy. How tf do you do that when watching ow
@Yaqoot
@Yaqoot Год назад
CS is the most simple for new viewers though, Valorant still requires knowledge of the game
@Guarrow
@Guarrow Год назад
​@@YaqootYes we all know that that's why nobody was talking about cs
@catbeans4685
@catbeans4685 Год назад
The sniper gives the ninja some roids
@thysquid2157
@thysquid2157 Год назад
I normally like listening to Dimitri’s takes but this one is odd. What does “slow and stodgy” even mean in this context? Is it because Val is not this robotically and unnatural smooth CS movement he is accustomed to?
@DumDumPost
@DumDumPost Год назад
As a CS player who played and watched a bit of Val, it mostly comes down to the pace of the game and the meta. I know Val is still “somewhat new” and haven’t had enough time to add in enough new characters to truly diversify the meta. It just that most teams just play the same strats and characters that it feels just “slow and stodgy.” Like, you already know how most round will likely end if you played it long enough and know the game very well. In CS, yeah we have most teams using same strat setup, but there will often be times where the unexpected happens. Such as C9 winning the 2018 Boston Major, Outsiders winning the this years Rio Major, Astralis changing the overall meta of the game from late 2018 (iirc), and so on. This is just my opinion but CS doesn’t give you a ceiling cap, and let’s you be the beast that you made yourself into. While Val just feels like it capped a lot of player potential based on the character/role they are playing. Where a support player may have a moment where they can pop off to a level unseen in the game, if they had the right tools during that game/round. But ultimately got their potential restrained due to the role they are playing and the limited tools they have.
@samuelscott25
@samuelscott25 Год назад
@@DumDumPost nah I got like 2.5k hours in cs and prob 1k in val at this point and I feel it's the complete opposite. Especially at higher ranks. CS feels so much of the exact same. Same strats, smokes and positions. You can pretty much predict how rounds will go. Slow defaults into executes in the last 30 seconds. Yawn. That's the reason why Val is more fun to me now. There's an extra element of abilities to add an extra element of unpredictability and an extra chance to outplay someone
@DumDumPost
@DumDumPost Год назад
@@samuelscott25 I feel like you didn’t get what I was saying. I already stated that both games will follow a certain meta and the same executes. Regardless of which comp shooter you play, there will also be certain meta and execution, you would do repeatedly and it will feel the same. The issue comes down to the pacing and overall ability of the team (and the players themselves) to execute all of their skills. In CS, there is pretty much no skill ceiling for the game. Or another way of putting it, there is no in-game shackle put on the player. You want to be an entry fragger but also a support player? Go ahead. Be an AWPer and an IGL? I don’t see any problems with that. You want to take on multiple roles, such as AWPing, entrying, and IGL? Go at it, brother. Even if someone can reach that ceiling, it is pretty damn high. You'll always be lacking something in a specific area. And all the tools to make you a better player are always available for you to practice with. This also equates to higher chances of unpredictability happening in tournaments (and better viewership numbers). On the other hand in Val, they already cap your skill ceiling to a certain degree (as it currently stands). Or simply put, the game actively puts shackles on players. Forcing them to dedicate themselves to specific roles/characters and does not allow flexibility of trying anything else mid-game/mid-tournament, decreasing the overall chances of unpredictability. And the characters themselves have specific and limited tools to work with. What’s more is if Riot doesn’t make sure each of their characters is well-balanced enough, it just becomes the same old boring mess. With the meta, character selection, and execution almost being the exact same or similar thing. Causing predictability to go up when you know which characters are being played. The only thing left that remains unpredictable is what new characters Riot is going to add, the tools that the character has, the balancing Riot is going to do, and how broken they are when actually being played in tournaments. With limited tools and restraints placed on players, it becomes pretty 'slow and stodgy' as you can guess which characters are going to get played, how they are going to be played, and waiting to see who will mess up first. Right now, Val has the benefit of still being new, still being developed, and having the feeling that the game still has more content to come (which it does, but could change in the future). Even though it is a hero-based competitive tact shooter, there are still some flaws in Val gameplay that can't be easily overlooked. Thus, why I said what I said. Edit: if you want me to clarify it further, let me know. I’m currently studying game design and right now I’m studying the part of influencing player’s decisions making. Edit 2: I should also note that update for CS takes centuries to happen until Val came in. Really thankful that Riot made Val. With competition from Riot, we will also see updates on map pool in CS and possibly new stuff happening in CS.
@warrior1563
@warrior1563 Год назад
@@DumDumPost roles don’t limit what you can or can’t do tho. IGLs have played all roles, including duelist, and many players have dedicated themselves to being able to play every role at a tier 1 level, which is extremely hard. We also had people OP on characters besides Jett and chamber and made it work in pro play. And the game is extremely unpredictable. It is really really hard to read the enemy team’s consistently, and to overcome this pros will mainly rely on their ability to adapt through protocols and by understanding how a specific team likes to play (anti stratting). There are always “meta comps” but there are tons of variations that will switch up the play style and there are always teams who try something new and innovate or change the meta. There are also teams that just straight up switch their team comp to throw off anti strats. Also in Valorant there is no dominant region like there is in cs. In csgo Europe basically wins everything but in Val in only 2 years of competition has had numerous wins from both Europe and NA plus a win for the Brazilians. Other regions that would be considered minor regions like South Korea, SEA, and LATAM regularly place in the top 4.
@crystal7143
@crystal7143 Год назад
The movement and gun gameplay feels really bad in Valorant. All the ability stuff is what makes Valorant “better” or different
@arshiawin6833
@arshiawin6833 Год назад
I rather watch valorent rather than overwatch cuz hell I can't tell wtf is happening on the screen in the latter
@vict0or
@vict0or Год назад
Once you understand how to play any game, you can see that its much more simpler than you think, like overwatch
@tanto1814
@tanto1814 Год назад
nah valorant is fun but I cant watch someone play its so boring to watch
@eyeden819
@eyeden819 Год назад
It's easy to tell what's happening in Valorant because they sit still for 1 minute then use all their abilities in the span of 30 seconds and then it resets
@berserkeroflove
@berserkeroflove Год назад
​@@eyeden819Yeah in Bronze, but in sounds like u never watched a pro match. There is always something going on
@sahave5042
@sahave5042 Год назад
Been playing valorant since it released and honestly every content creator is the same, they have to fight God himself to find an idea that isn’t clips
@rostiobertas5160
@rostiobertas5160 Год назад
As a person who played many years of CS-Go, and watched few of their videos, I’m glad these people don’t do any content with valorant, they have no clue what they talking about in their reviews and you just can’t get your time back wasted on these ppl that think they good at analyzing esports.
@CallMeAnisse
@CallMeAnisse Год назад
Dmitri has talked about Valrlorant in the past when the game was still under a year old, and let's just say, it didn't have the impact the org hoped for. And ever since, he's been biting his tongue a lot because he keeps getting his teeth kicked in every time he tries to talk about it. It actually shocked me that he'd talk about Valorant in that way when he's been called out and corrected in the past, but hey, controversy brings consumers, so I can see why they keep the guy around even though he's so disliked.
@Bootymuncher23
@Bootymuncher23 Год назад
My guy he’s immortal in Val
@Dytanious
@Dytanious Год назад
The more skillful part sent me. Val and overwatch are two vastly different games but the skill ceiling in Val is much higher do to the individual impact you can have on a game. OW is more about constantly changing and adapting your heroes in certain situations which is why you have more compositions in overwatch. The problem I have with the game is that it’s flat out not balanced, and some agents are far more limited in comparison to others. Where as in Valorant, no matter what, the better players will always win despite team comp because literally the skill difference is far more noticeable from low elo to high. A lot of things and mechanics are very streamlined in OW.
@IronMan-jj2fd
@IronMan-jj2fd Год назад
The main difference is that : Valo is difficult to play but easy to master While OW is easy to play but difficult to master. OW has more depth.
@Dytanious
@Dytanious Год назад
@@IronMan-jj2fd the ez to master part feels very misleading. Because it really depends on the type of player you are. There’s so many different tempos to Valorant and timing is probably the most important quality in both games. OW is FAR more predictable tho and it’s way easier to see why you’re losing or winning. In Val the most minute things could give you the advantage and it’s far more unpredictable on how the flow of the match can turn. Even if you’re down 12-1 in Val you still have a chance to win. In OW that rarely happens because the tempo of the game is fairly consistent in almost every elo.
@CanadianKomodo
@CanadianKomodo Год назад
@@Dytanious It literally just aim and positioning. Overwatch has every skill Valorant has but 10x faster with team comp actually being important.
@Dytanious
@Dytanious Год назад
@@CanadianKomodo that’s definitely not true. I do agree though that team comp has a bigger role in OW but that’s where all the skill is. You can jump around and move so freely in overwatch while be completely accurate the whole time (some heroes don’t even require much aim) but in Val it’s far focused on gun play and spray control. You have to strafe in between your shots. There’s the rare instances of run and gun but even that has counter play to it. Overwatch has a very linear and easy to follow tempo where’s Val’s timings are usually pretty varied due to the nature of its rounds system.
@lase_r1958
@lase_r1958 Год назад
"How to start a war"
@nuke_m4n
@nuke_m4n Год назад
Fr
@sweaterweather734
@sweaterweather734 Год назад
Fr
@ezbobez
@ezbobez Год назад
I almost killed myself when they said overwatch is more skillful. I’ve played overwatch, there’s no need for skill.
@bagasadityanugroho3055
@bagasadityanugroho3055 Год назад
ya even little kids can playing it haha ow sucks
@heinzssaucethetwoth1700
@heinzssaucethetwoth1700 Год назад
TF2 >>>>
@santiagocaceres4336
@santiagocaceres4336 Год назад
​@@bagasadityanugroho3055 i mean... Shroud, a legend of cs:go and very good at valorant being stuck in gold says something... why??? Because ow is a multifaceted team-based oriented game, it's not just pointing at heads and click
@bagasadityanugroho3055
@bagasadityanugroho3055 Год назад
@@santiagocaceres4336 so its just teamplay game no need for skill no?
@santiagocaceres4336
@santiagocaceres4336 Год назад
@@bagasadityanugroho3055 u doesn't read anything and still can't admit that val is so generic n replaceable, but ok, you want to be stupid and keep giving yourself the autolike? Ok 🗿
@FTNChicken
@FTNChicken Год назад
Everyone deserves to play a game where the developers actually support the game and its community
@deadersurvival4716
@deadersurvival4716 Год назад
So... Nothing from Riot, Epic, or Nintendo?
@rafsanmahdin885
@rafsanmahdin885 Год назад
​@@deadersurvival4716 you buggin if you think riot dont listen to the valo community...they just wont do certain thnigs like add workshop or replay system which sucks...other then that the fix bugs lightning fast , update agent abilities which till now have been met with universal praise...
@deadersurvival4716
@deadersurvival4716 Год назад
@@rafsanmahdin885 my dude, they don't even fix bugs or listen to their community in their biggest IP of League, and in most cases, add more without fixing anything. While I may have been joking, that doesn't mean I wasn't right.
@yuyah7413
@yuyah7413 Год назад
@@deadersurvival4716 wait.. you were joking? damn, all my life I thought jokes are meant to be funny
@deadersurvival4716
@deadersurvival4716 Год назад
@@yuyah7413 I mean, your life is sad and we laugh at that. Dry sarcastic humor ain't gotta be funny. It's just gotta be painfully true to people who are capable of being the punchline.
@nguyenchilan3965
@nguyenchilan3965 Год назад
yea you can put overwatch on valorant, it also like that on the hub too
@shrub807
@shrub807 Год назад
💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
@Wheatifyy
@Wheatifyy Год назад
Link ☕
@kylemaljevac5482
@kylemaljevac5482 Год назад
I’ll be honest, Overwatch is what popularised the hero shooter genre in the first place. Without Overwatch Valorant wouldn’t exist.
@PhatTran-nw9ri
@PhatTran-nw9ri Год назад
Without TF2, Overwarch wouldn't exist 😂😂😂.
@jadenharris6560
@jadenharris6560 Год назад
Wait... people actually think Val is good
@Thejokestir8
@Thejokestir8 Год назад
I like when people don't stand still to shoot each other like a musket fight
@26282ihzbbshz
@26282ihzbbshz Год назад
Ikr, they just stand still while shooting and then rage when they die bro💀
@313Vxid
@313Vxid Год назад
At least Valorant didn’t update their game and call it Val 2💀
@achilles2674
@achilles2674 Год назад
holy roast!
@santiagocaceres4336
@santiagocaceres4336 Год назад
Not yet
@dio9067
@dio9067 Год назад
Ouch
@NOU-iw3gb
@NOU-iw3gb Год назад
Still trash with lower skill ceiling
@cosmos1487
@cosmos1487 Год назад
​@@NOU-iw3gb lol back your opinion
@Benja4519
@Benja4519 Год назад
Even tho I have invested lots of time to playing Valorant (even some money) and I really enjoyed the game, my problem with it is the lack of new content. You see games like Overwatch with the community Workshop you have INFINITE possibilities and ideas, you can't get bored of that, but Valorant just added Swifplay like 2 years late lmao, Riot has some serious work to do to keep up right now
@puretestoster1
@puretestoster1 Год назад
exactly my thoughts here. i have ~800 hours in val, $200 spent since june 2021 but when ow2 released i havent played val
@lost_flower4412
@lost_flower4412 Год назад
Yeah the other game modes dont really are that fun so youre either going for a swiftplay or 40 minutes of a serius ranked game
@OreWaGundam00
@OreWaGundam00 Год назад
Agree
@cmapez
@cmapez Год назад
CSGO is literally miles better than valorant.
@chubbygamerdad
@chubbygamerdad Год назад
I would’ve agreed with this roughly 2 years ago. At present day, hands down Valorant is way superior to Overwatch.
@JustAJauneArc
@JustAJauneArc Год назад
I personally believe Valorant is a WAY more interesting watch than Overwatch for a reason he mentioned: Valorant is a very deliberate game. So watching what people do and knowing that what they're doing is absolutely intentional is a really big draw for me as someone that wants to improve at the game.
@Noripurrmaid
@Noripurrmaid Год назад
Its like the difference between watching a pro and amateur fighting game player. Val, you know that they are very intentional in their game play. OW feels like an amateur player that most of the time spams but gets a lucky play. This is how I see both games when I watch them
@brown9671
@brown9671 Год назад
It’s the same with ow you just don’t understand overwatch, but ow gets the bonus factor of high action pov, seeing the best do what they do is like an art form. But valorant is 100% a better to watch esport even if you know overwatch in and out. Valorant is so methodical it’s kinda boring to me tho. Sort of like basketball vs football (American) which so you like more.
@rranee
@rranee Год назад
Someone is bad at valorant 😂
@huntit4578
@huntit4578 Год назад
Youre mom is. Valo is like a ph now. Only BS happens there. Csgo is for real man 👍 Csgo: toxic community which prepares you for real world Valo: get a kill and ill say uWu, TOTAL BS
@Wheatifyy
@Wheatifyy Год назад
😂
@notmyninick
@notmyninick Год назад
yeah and he is gold lol
@nyeonii
@nyeonii Год назад
That’s so odd that he said he’d rather watch OW but play Valo, because I feel the opposite lmao. Showing someone clips from OWL they get so confused because bullets and ability effects just fill the screen. You understand what’s happening while you’re playing but watching someone else is difficult sometimes. Valorant on the other hand, I think is much easier to watch because there’s not so much clutter and the fights are more precise, less chaotic.
@p0k3mn1
@p0k3mn1 Год назад
The thing about overwatch is it’s so damn unique no game has been able to replicate the same feel and flow in the gameplay and the ones that tried either feel clunky or lower quality
@bluu787
@bluu787 Год назад
"Slow and choppy games" Meanwhile all the radiants I know talking about how Valorant is just a speedrunning game in disguise
@rollrtoaster3823
@rollrtoaster3823 Год назад
Woohoojin
@chienvu8144
@chienvu8144 Год назад
In term of game design, OW is a better game. OW was made for fun. Valorant is a decent, healthy game (strong foundation). Valorant was born with competitive mindset. So, depend on what aspect are we rank them on.
@lost_flower4412
@lost_flower4412 Год назад
True, that also changes on how both games play out in many aspects
@heinzssaucethetwoth1700
@heinzssaucethetwoth1700 Год назад
TF2 has better design
@LilNuggzzz
@LilNuggzzz Год назад
Mmmm… okay so I don’t really agree. And I’ve played both games religiously. I see the appeal in both games. I just personally wouldn’t put Overwatch over Valorant. Overwatch is a fun game yes. I just feel like Valorant is better in more ways than Overwatch.
@jym2r
@jym2r Год назад
riot is better at maintaining a game than blizzard, thats the winning factor for me.
@alastairwyn6047
@alastairwyn6047 Год назад
i think if u strip away the qol and the more reliable dev involvement in val overwatch is definitely the more fun + interesting higher skill cap game. its a shame blizz is a small indie company 😢
@AskTheMasked
@AskTheMasked Год назад
​@@alastairwyn6047 I mean they are going the EA route of profits> quality so... I don't play OW out of despise for what they did to their games lol.
@okdarius
@okdarius Год назад
The glasses dude with the receding hairline for sure just got dunked on Val a few hours prior or something 💀
@acusticarcher4677
@acusticarcher4677 Год назад
Nah he's just correct. Said nice things about valorant but it's in no way compared to overwatch and when it comes to competing csgo dunks on valorant. I dont even like csgo either and I like valorant lmao.
@Kiyoung.
@Kiyoung. Год назад
You can tell none of them ever gave valorant a serious try
@sweaterweather734
@sweaterweather734 Год назад
True, plays and lineups are cool to watch and at this time valorant was still yeah a bir choppy but fun if you let it and actually fast paced. So theres no time to look at stuff unless your quick with it. No offense to anyone :3
@sweaterweather734
@sweaterweather734 Год назад
And they provide good cinematics and lore.
@catbeans4685
@catbeans4685 Год назад
Valorant is absolute garbage
@Kiyoung.
@Kiyoung. Год назад
@@catbeans4685 that’s your opinion and in my opinion valorant is a good game
@catbeans4685
@catbeans4685 Год назад
@Kiyoung. It's not an opinion, though. Riot no longer makes games that are meant to be fun. They make algorithms that dish out dopamine hits to keep you playing a shit game that you only started playing because your favorite streamer got paid to say, "It's good guys" so they can charge you $160 for the color blue and now you can't stop playing because of the sunk cost fallacy 🤡
@T29hotrod
@T29hotrod Год назад
Tf2 in A tier wtf 💀
@sdfsfsdf641
@sdfsfsdf641 Год назад
I’ve spent too much money for valorant to just go away
@squilliamfancysoniii
@squilliamfancysoniii Год назад
I bought like only 3 or 4 battlepasses. I have a friend who buys everything that comes out.
@schizballs
@schizballs Год назад
God I have like 10 vandal skins and only use forsaken. This is so sad can we get 3 likes
@riadhgz1445
@riadhgz1445 Год назад
Sunk cost fallacy
@howled0
@howled0 Год назад
That’s sad
@actuallysanta9241
@actuallysanta9241 Год назад
Overwatch is only good if you’re playing with a 5 stack of competent players against a non sweaty team, in my opinion, valorant allows for much goofier tactics to work instead of the meta which I prefer
@minhocho5487
@minhocho5487 Год назад
Have you seen the TORB GAMEPLAY????
@risekujikawa9654
@risekujikawa9654 Год назад
Low rank valorant allows it, yes. The same way bronze overwatch does.
@brando440
@brando440 Год назад
no this is so wrong it makes me question if you ever played ow. you can get away with more bs in ow than in val cause of how much you have to tryhard in val compared to ow.
@actuallysanta9241
@actuallysanta9241 Год назад
@@minhocho5487 yes ofc I’m a torb main
@Kadereii
@Kadereii Год назад
i like to play valorant as a warmup and play overwatch, it gets my brain going and starts setting me up to yell slurs when I die to a moira bhopping while holding right click
@neilnair5388
@neilnair5388 Год назад
As a sojourn player who recently shifted to moira i can feel ya
@wendigo374
@wendigo374 Год назад
Overwatch is my warmup for valorant
@relicshield2362
@relicshield2362 Год назад
But valorant has e-girls
@TheMrBonzz
@TheMrBonzz Год назад
Honestly just happy TF2 is above both OW and Valo.
@brandonquan9127
@brandonquan9127 Год назад
Once Overwatch becomes balanced, then Overwatch outmatches Valorant in terms of Fun. But at the moment Valorant is way more balanced than Overwatch making Valorant better.
@brandonquan9127
@brandonquan9127 Год назад
Then again, both these games aren't fun and would rather play something more casual.
@kyedankurz2783
@kyedankurz2783 Год назад
@bigtasty no, hog is broken
@pedrinhobit
@pedrinhobit Год назад
At the moment? I think for as long as men been on Earth Valorant has been more balanced lol. OW will never be close to balanced
@danielestrada5511
@danielestrada5511 Год назад
Balanced != fun unless you are playing at a relative high ish level in ladder in my opinion. In most games the broken stuff tends to be the fun stuff.
@soggyramen6031
@soggyramen6031 Год назад
@@bigtastyfrommcdonldso what lol, it’s his perspective, and neither game is really all that fun anyways
@Aruesx
@Aruesx Год назад
I never got to play OW pre bap and brig release but from what I've seen and heard, the golden age of OW was one of the highest peaks in gaming. Even when I did start playing I knew everything was scuffed in high ranks but being low rank no one knew what they were doing and all the pixel and ability effects made it all seem fun.
@Ardyrezv
@Ardyrezv Год назад
Did any valorant agents end up on any products? I think I saw gengi on a chip bag a while back lol
@Arhivite
@Arhivite Год назад
Overwatch was huge in 2016, 2017.
@maiLfps
@maiLfps Год назад
the special ed classroom made a video game tier list
@emppudud5692
@emppudud5692 Год назад
Lmaooo
@Kliscian
@Kliscian Год назад
ong
@ThouSunny0
@ThouSunny0 Год назад
VALORANT is extremely choppy and inconsistent corners in the game make it very annoying from other games
@rogueonewon8311
@rogueonewon8311 Год назад
So many salty valoran players that can’t accept that their isn’t the best. We‘lol see how long valorants lifespan is compared to overwatch.
@N661N
@N661N Год назад
After seeing this. My love for valorant is back.
@lordrwbyandnepwatcher1387
@lordrwbyandnepwatcher1387 Год назад
the floods of Valorant players trying to argue against this is pretty funny ngl 🤣
@magnuslund8321
@magnuslund8321 Год назад
They think their I-can't-see-anything simulator is more fun than overwatch 1,1.
@cntom8233
@cntom8233 Год назад
​@@magnuslund8321 i think both are equal. But im pretty fuckin sure you don't see everything more often in overwatch
@Lucas-ro6zf
@Lucas-ro6zf Год назад
i played both overwatch and valorant for hundreds of hours and can say that valorant is easily the better competitive game
@magnuslund8321
@magnuslund8321 Год назад
@@cntom8233 Oh yeah I love all those Overwatch heroes that deploy smokes and flash, wow they are annoying!
@magnuslund8321
@magnuslund8321 Год назад
@@Lucas-ro6zf Then you didn't play Overwatch enough. Valorant is just so slow and Overwatch is confusing for new and semi-experienced players. Overwatch has much much more team based aspect to it where Valorant is more about egotistic values.
@lynxsies
@lynxsies Год назад
"Like developers actually gave a shit" did not age well for Overwatch 💀 Edit: And CoD, tf2, apex. Really most AAA game companies dont care about satisfying their consumers anymore. Of course there are exceptions. The dev team of the souls games (and thus elden ring) and gearbox (developer of Borderlands) and the devopers of Horizon and God of war they all care about money too, but they REALLY want to deliver a game that really validates that Triple A pricetag. Honourable mention: Deep rock galactic. The chance of anyone that worked for that masterpiece sees this comment is slim. But you lot are the absolutely biggest chads of developers out there. Keep doing what you do best and deliver that satisfying game. For rock and stone comrades.
@tealyclanker
@tealyclanker Год назад
he was talking about valorant when he said that
@vaseslavy8516
@vaseslavy8516 Год назад
any tier list with tf2 not in s tier isnt a good tier list
@derricksuryarahardja1614
@derricksuryarahardja1614 8 месяцев назад
"Slow, choppy, stodgy game" Omen: ... Raze: ...
@alimzhanbazeken2346
@alimzhanbazeken2346 Год назад
Bro I hate this guy who said abt valorant, it's totally opposite. Ow is harder in terms of team while valorant is more harder in terms of individual skill. Combining ultimate in valo is piece of cake while ow2 is very hard. So imo they both different to compare
@evanwong3846
@evanwong3846 Год назад
Ow is significantly harder than valorant in terms of "skill". Movement is much crazier in ow and there is a lot of y axis aiming. Valorant shines more in terms of strategy, and thinking
@peanut_boiboi5452
@peanut_boiboi5452 Год назад
They just jealous valorant has a much higher level of skill compared to other games
@BigL10000
@BigL10000 Год назад
overwatch is more difficult
@StimPakTskAwwYea
@StimPakTskAwwYea Год назад
Nah that’s copium. Valorant you hold angles and is 90% cross hair placement. Any game like OW or Apex where every enemy character has Jett movement and more makes tracking and aiming at high pace more difficult. Mechanically OW is a harder game than valorant.
@themekan3392
@themekan3392 Год назад
@@BigL10000 I play both games actively and hell no, overwatch is far from strategic depth
@peanut_boiboi5452
@peanut_boiboi5452 Год назад
@@themekan3392 since you play both games actively, which game do you think is more difficult?
@lukalomashvili6308
@lukalomashvili6308 Год назад
​@@StimPakTskAwwYea with your mind, i bet i wouldn't get out of silver...
@freshcut3398
@freshcut3398 Год назад
"When it comes to watching it, id rather be playing it." He just sums up what makes a game good. Also, Valorant is not csgo and vice versa. To act as if theyre the same is braindead
@wendigo374
@wendigo374 Год назад
Literally, I watch valorant and get the urge to play because it’s fun.
@rose_watr
@rose_watr Год назад
Never call Valorant a slow paced game NEVER
@chino-1291
@chino-1291 8 месяцев назад
slow game
@axerbii9093
@axerbii9093 Год назад
Valorant players (like me): WE WILL GET OUR REVENGE!!! Overwatch getting deleted and they are making overwatch 2 which everyone hates
@Rantle-
@Rantle- Год назад
" its nice to play a game where it feels like the devs actually give a shit " Valorant: literally updates the game almost once every 2 weeks Overwatch: decides to get rid of Overwatch 1 after not updating Overwatch 1 for 3 years making players mad about their loot boxes being opened in Overwatch 2
@gavinferguson2938
@gavinferguson2938 Год назад
So true, valorant has balance reworks that invent new more open metas every other week. While overwatch created brigiette who might actually be the most busted character in videogame history as she single handedly annihilated one of the most popular competitive video games off the face of the earth for numerous years... but yeah sure ig blizz gives a shit lol
@wendigo374
@wendigo374 Год назад
Yeah and valorant is constantly updating maps and fixing them
@darkorange835
@darkorange835 Год назад
Well tbh for a person with a low powered laptop VALORANT is the only game i can genuinely play properly. I would love to play other games but you see i just can't
@mashur4880
@mashur4880 Год назад
Csgo runs on a toaster. Youd get double the frames compared to valorant. Youd also become much better at valorant by playing a harder title
@WsG82
@WsG82 Год назад
@@mashur4880 You actually think casual cs is harder than valorant?
@mashur4880
@mashur4880 Год назад
@@WsG82 csgo is a more difficult game from the ground up. Momentum based movement, less randomized spray patterns. Everyone can do the same thing. You dont have inherent advantages just by choosing the right character. riots so smart they added a character who doesnt even need to participate in the economy fully.
@WsG82
@WsG82 Год назад
@@mashur4880 It's not more difficult at all because the ceiling for a casual player ain't that high. Same maps , same nades , same peeks. Momentum based movement ? You mean the same counterstrafe that you do in valorant(i know you don't have to) or the bunnyhops which are not that consistent on cs:go compared to 1.6. More characters = diversity in games which lead to fun teamplays and weird combos. To each his own at the end of the day.
@mashur4880
@mashur4880 Год назад
@@WsG82 i think youre confusing floor and ceiling. As casual players never get close to any skill ceiling. They have a skill floor. Valorants skill floor is much lower. The counterstrafing in csgo is a skill that is required to make it out of nova. In valorant you let go of movement keys, thats the quickest way to stop your movement and be 100% accurate. You can watch professional players in both games take fights very differently. Valorant allows many more mistakes because of the abilities that compensate for poor positioning. In csgo, you have two options. Commit to the fight, or go somewhere else. You cant tap a or d to take corners like a snail in csgo. You can in valorant. That makes the games skill floor lower. Alongside the lack of needed map knowledge as the first four maps valorant released were hallways and boxes made of paper. Higher randomized sprays, a flat economy, characters that dont even need to participate in said economy. A power curve to characters because balancing hero shooters is impossible. Easier to use weapons, ie sheriff/marshall. (The csgo counterparts dont get nearly the same value)
@kacper5999
@kacper5999 Год назад
Those games are different, both good
@calisthencspro2753
@calisthencspro2753 Год назад
These CS players just don't want to say that valorant is a good game even tho valorant players can bully any cs player
@Skippyxlxlxl
@Skippyxlxlxl Год назад
You know the take is bad when they don’t link the og video.
@darrenmaverick
@darrenmaverick Год назад
this is what i've been discussing with friends, valorant is just too boring for us
@Ayva.alexander-pua
@Ayva.alexander-pua Год назад
Nah bro- I don’t even need to say anything about this-
@unreformed.
@unreformed. Год назад
yikes the bias is insane in this one
@Gunther69420
@Gunther69420 Год назад
You mean like every opinion? Valorant just feels slow.
@slayzet4293
@slayzet4293 Год назад
​@@Gunther69420 then i can say csgo is too fast. Just because one feels slower than other doesnt mean its worse game
@Kyo_koutsu
@Kyo_koutsu Год назад
@@slayzet4293ikr
@alexandervillar7742
@alexandervillar7742 Год назад
​@@slayzet4293he said CSGO is more fun than valorant, it's a tier list of the most fun games according to them. Why are you all valorant players so pressed?
@slayzet4293
@slayzet4293 Год назад
@@alexandervillar7742 im replying to someone, not to the video. When did Chris said anything about which game is more fun than other? He is stating his own opinion and im replying with my own opinion.
@prism2465
@prism2465 Год назад
I hope there isn't a war breaking out just about which game is better, overwatch or Val
@SollomonTheWise
@SollomonTheWise Год назад
this didnt age well
@veresed8642
@veresed8642 Год назад
“Slow” Oy I’m pissed!
@goofysh4
@goofysh4 Год назад
raze satchels
@Jagged_
@Jagged_ Год назад
Bro not the valorant players mad in the comments lmaoo
@blufa3192
@blufa3192 Год назад
I played CS GO and I agree that the mechanics are better in CS but valorant is more fun or as fun due to the extra content.
@brando440
@brando440 Год назад
that extra content is the reason i get headaches from playing it. the extra stuff gets boring real quick and id rather have reliable mechanics than it.
@Bootymuncher23
@Bootymuncher23 Год назад
New content is bad tho maybe if they added more duelist it would actually fun they just add boring characters like gekko or fade
@liquidate251
@liquidate251 Год назад
siege above either overwatch or valorant is mind blowing
@BespiPNT
@BespiPNT Год назад
everything is better than valorant
@jojoelledeer
@jojoelledeer Год назад
Slow?! I can’t keep up with all the util, valorant has got to be the most complex and tactical game I’ve ever played
@baremangus3576
@baremangus3576 Год назад
You probably havent played many games then
@brando440
@brando440 Год назад
@@baremangus3576 lmao fr. val is complicated but its so slow in comparison to ow and cs and tf2
@TOKYOminttt
@TOKYOminttt Год назад
@@baremangus3576 please, tell me what other shooter game is more complex and tactical than Valorant that the devs care about, cus clearly there’s plenty out there from what I can take from your comment
@circle7489
@circle7489 Год назад
​@@TOKYOminttt r6
@TOKYOminttt
@TOKYOminttt Год назад
@@circle7489 Damn brutha I’ve played that but here I was waiting for a whole list of at least 4 games. Honestly, they’re both heavily skilled base and imo, r6 is definitely more tactical but not more complex than Valorant.
@anshmokashi5959
@anshmokashi5959 Год назад
Valorant and Cs go are far different from each-other This guy: Valorant doesn't feel like Cs go 💀
@brando440
@brando440 Год назад
i mean its kinda based on it but it misses the mark alot so i get where hes coming from
@Rqine3131
@Rqine3131 Год назад
He means it doesn't invoke the same good feeling like CS does for him.
@Mushii177
@Mushii177 Год назад
“Valorant is slow” bro if anythings slow then its blizzard updating overwatch
@bhawkis5755
@bhawkis5755 Год назад
Or valve making a new game LMAO
@heinzssaucethetwoth1700
@heinzssaucethetwoth1700 Год назад
@@bhawkis5755 Or valve actually doing something with TF2
@moykun5643
@moykun5643 Год назад
Which is better overwatch or Overwatch 2?
@robonurcob2584
@robonurcob2584 Год назад
So many mad Valorant fanboys in the comments lmao
@SunnySixStreet
@SunnySixStreet Год назад
All the valorant players getting mad in the comments😂
@Anonymous-td9fl
@Anonymous-td9fl Год назад
It's almost like we're supposed to get angry cuz our game got insulted? Bro thinks he said something controversial lmaoooooo
@cl00oob29
@cl00oob29 Год назад
I love valorant and tbh I think it takes way more skill than overwatch at least at a ranked level if you make mistakes you get punished very quickly and in ow you have more flexibility in what you can do and how you can position you can whiff more than 2 bullets without dying instantly in ow I don’t hate ow or think it’s bad but I do think that there is way more room for error
@Kyo_koutsu
@Kyo_koutsu Год назад
U just explained valorant on unrated
@cl00oob29
@cl00oob29 Год назад
@@Kyo_koutsu so overwatch is valorant unrated?
@pocketoniofficial
@pocketoniofficial Год назад
This is the hottest take I've heard all year.
@jjnova270
@jjnova270 4 месяца назад
Did bro say that valorant dev dont care when over watch killed their own game💀
@jingeralea
@jingeralea Год назад
even if you hate overwatch, it's infinitely less replaceable than valorant. So if one had to be removed, it would be valorant in my opinion.
@carlsong6438
@carlsong6438 Год назад
And we thought dimitri was coming around to reason and then he says overwatch is infintely more skillful than valorant... lol
@TiboFPS
@TiboFPS Год назад
Multiple different aiming styles, Highly different gameplay Yeah it is more skillful than Valorant
@chienvu8144
@chienvu8144 Год назад
I mean, I see OW players on top of Valorant. Haven't seen the other way around.
@TiboFPS
@TiboFPS Год назад
@@chienvu8144 the concept that Overwatch is a lower skill game because it attracts a more casual playerbase is nuts to me.
@eggwuheggwuheggwuh
@eggwuheggwuheggwuh Год назад
Overwatch only has a few skill based heroes, while the other 9/10 of the cast gets value simply by picking the character. Valorant is more mechanically intensive than those 9/10 characters, but not the 1/10 ones.
@brando440
@brando440 Год назад
true but also thats what makes it boring. in ow the characters are all extremely different while in val the characters are different but not as much. you can succeed with any character while in ow the gameplay is funner cause of how diff the characters are.
@masksuckerberg8363
@masksuckerberg8363 Год назад
Factually untrue, the only character that always gets value by being picked, and that is actually good, is probably just Roadhog. Everyone else is either situational, too bad to get value from unless you're God or opponents aren't bad themselves, or is gimmicky and becomes pretty bad if played around. Then there's the characters that require game awareness, good/character specific aiming, matchup knowledge, techs etc.
@eggwuheggwuheggwuh
@eggwuheggwuheggwuh Год назад
@@masksuckerberg8363 you have literally never played the game before based on this comment
@eggwuheggwuheggwuh
@eggwuheggwuheggwuh Год назад
@@brando440 I also think Overwatch is more fun because like I said, it is mechanically easier for most characters and has a more loose, arcade feel. Valorant is a more competitive game (at least it used to be) because every player is held to the same standard when facing other opponents
@masksuckerberg8363
@masksuckerberg8363 Год назад
@@eggwuheggwuheggwuh tell me what's wrong about any of my statements? You one of those who think Roadhog=not good bc he's not a dive tank or something? Mind giving some examples of characters that get value just for being picked, and that don't require character specific aiming/movement or are just gimmicks?
@ethanwood1737
@ethanwood1737 Год назад
As someone who plays Valorant, CSGO, and Overwatch, I do not have such concerns
@RealbertramRD2
@RealbertramRD2 Год назад
Bro actually remembered tf2
@Rpodnee
@Rpodnee Год назад
I find that when I play valorant there is never a rushing round. I've never played a round where we rush the site. And I think it's because the game is designed to punish any form of aggression. And I think that's what they mean by it being a slow game. At least in CS:GO you'll have rounds where you rush the site and actually have hope of taking it. Instead of being bombarded by annoying abilities and completely shut down.
@evvis8191
@evvis8191 Год назад
You cant have played valorant for more Than an hour if you’ve never played a rush round
@davidnguyen2137
@davidnguyen2137 Год назад
@@evvis8191 u cant always do a push round in high ranks, because fade, brimstone, viper, raze exist, unless your rank is so pisslow
@Rpodnee
@Rpodnee Год назад
@@evvis8191 what the fuck is valorant?
@alexandervillar7742
@alexandervillar7742 Год назад
​@@evvis8191have you watched any competitive valorant games? Nobody rushes. I mean absolutely nobody. Why? The game heavily favors positioning over everything and the maps are made for a slower pace. In CSGO the game has a faster movement and lacks abilities which means you can get places faster as a team and as a solo. So yes, you can rush in valorant but it's probably the worse strategy.
@spyier53
@spyier53 Год назад
Entet to talk in chat v for voice chat
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