Is Overwatch BETTER than Valorant? 

They do ,did you hear about next season they going to put the game currency in the battlepass and they making some ways or credits to help us get skins faster also nerfed roadhog and that other dps yeh they do care 🙂 what else they want them to do more then that plus events

and thats why i love valorant they even gave us a lore which we built off on we love em

@@joshuajohn74 ow has lore too

Overwatch lore much deeper dude

@@Star-py8zlnah since they made the game f2p it just kinda became skilless. One the ranking system is the worst ranking system of any competitive game in existence. Even the devs came out and said it’s a bad system and they never changed it. How you going to have a system that doesn’t tell you if you are losing or gaining SR ? Nerfing road hog was dumb, he wasn’t the problem, Kiriko was, devs don’t know how to balance. They also “ reworked “ Soujourn and she became stronger lmao. When Jeff was head of the dev team game was much smoother, didn’t have everything behind a paywall, and they genuinely cared about the community.

“No shit, Sherlock” is all I could say😂😂🤦🏼‍♂️

Bro it did all but say it was the csgo killer, then failed

I mean obviously "like" means "as good as" in this context

@@fab9207valorant is better than CS lol if you’re talking over game quality. Because it’s so much newer and aspects that weren’t in CS are in it. But in terms of gameplay still prolly CSGO

​@@nicestfilms22 Valo's movement is just really bad. It feels slow and sticky. But the main thing that makes CSGO far superior is just the sounds. The crispy smooth sounds just makes it so much more rewarding to shoot and hit heads.

Yeah only good thing abput valorant movement is raze

U know valorant is a copy of overwatch right?

​@@IronMan-jj2fdLMAO ok

​@@hexafps Sage, Neon, Yoru laughing in the corner

@@hexafps Neon, Jett, Omen

That’s kinda the whole point of deciding which one you want to put higher than the other in the same tier

@@needstoast one of his reasons was that valorant is slow. It’s a tactical shooter of course it’s going to be slow compared to overwatch. That’s not really a good reason.

@@Ex3ox Val is a rip off of cs but cs feels faster. Valorant isn’t just a slow shooter, if feels slow as a tactical shooter too. It feels like the slowest game on the market honestly.

@@brown9671 its not a rip off though val has ults agents with different abilities satisfying kills and a much more harder but funner shooter game to learn just because you dont like slowed paced shooters doesn’t mean anyone else wouldnt either.

​@@tylerxic3241 val is based off cs like 90%. and sure theres ults and abilities, but honestly theres only like 4 types of abilities in val which are just csgo smokes, flashes. val has movement abilites that cs doesnt but cs has bhop and surf. val IS a rip off you cant debate it, not even heavy inspiration, like riot intentionally was trying to make csgo2: hero shooter edition.

Yeah, I'm from battle royales and don't feel it slow

@@Gerkan23 As a game, Overwatch, which is a successor to TF2 in alot of ways is better and skillful than valorant can ever dream of. The team composition that drastically alters the gameplay, the crazy plays you can do etc. Now if we factor in the support the devs pit into the game, valorant is better. Still at the end of the day, Valorant is a mid game carried by the qol features.

@@Gerkan23 Valorant is a fps game to its core meaning as long as you are tuned with traditional fps fundementals, you will do decntly well. Overwatch is a mix of a MOBA and fps menaing you also have to factor in resource management much more than Valorant. By design, it is much more complex than Valorant will ever be. It also has a tank, dps, support distiction. The reason why I said it in that tone is you, having essentilaly no experience and knowledge of Overwatch, said that it was wrong to have Overwatch above Valorant. Now would I ever fault you for liking Valorant more than Overwatch? No, never. Everyone like different things and Valorant is a decent game. Are you wrong for saying Valorant requires more skill than Overwatch? 100% yes becaus you seem to lack basic knowledge about video games.

When did the guy who said he played CSGO say this your completely meshing two different takes which makes no sense.

I mean he is not lying, valorant is slow unlike csgo that its fast, just play csgo and you can feel the difference in gameplay, i played csgo for 5 years but recently im not playing it anymore because im currently playing valorant with my friends, i still play csgo time to time but just playing valorant is slow compared to csgos gun play

I also do not like overwatch, he was talking about csgo though, the content updates for that game have always been nuts

​@@SynthGirl64 I'm pretty sure he was talking about valorant was he not? They even showed a clip of gameplay and in CS you don't "place a smoke" lol

@@SynthGirl64 csgo devs caring about the community is one of the funniest jokes i've heard, thnx

@@Anonymous-td9fl they don't. Csgo Devs don't develop though, the community does. And the community does care about the community 👍

you're deliberately misunderstanding what he's saying so you can farm likes lmao

They didnt say which is a better shooter, they were comparing 2 games on the level of fun…and you can compare even red dead rdemption to need for speed for the fun you get from the games

I think it’s more about their personal enjoyment, and in this case, overwatch is way easier for most people to enjoy.

@@neilnair5388 They literally said that overwatch is better than Valorant.

Overwatch is objectively better

I can say Hitler is a worse pearson that Messi even tough they did different things

It is ironic but Valorant typically is a slow and choppy game. Mechanics of the game are definitely choppy at least.

That’s intense to you? Overwatch is going to give you a stroke

@@larry2281it’s also a blatant copy of overwatch

@@michaelmartin4842 it’s a blatant copy of both csgo and overwatch

Valorant is dog shit and I hate overwatch

They’re saying it doesn’t evoke the same good feelings that CS does.

@@FireDarkNinja the problem with that is because the feeling is not the game, it’s then. In years when valorant is a game and the people who grew up with it will say the same damn thing

Plus the main reason is nostalgia, he said it himself that hes playing cs for most of this life which means no matter what, it’s gonna have a special place in his heart

@@Focusballs And in my opinion that's 100% ok. Games provoke a certain feeling in us and sometimes those opinions are biased and inseparable from our minds. It will continue to happen and that's fine by me.

They are nearly the same game with the same premise and same elements. One just has abilities, the other one doesn't.

csgo fanboys do everything to hate on valo, even beeing positive about ow

​@@Karr1711 he's not wrong though, overwatch is a lot more fun to watch than valorant, theres a lot more going on and gameplay is faster

@@Karr1711 valorant lost a lot of players when ow2 released. i've been playing val since june 2021 with ~800 hours and $200 spent but overwatch has just been infinitely more captivating

​​@@puretestoster1 id do like to actually see the numbers, it isnt like playing one makes you abandon the other

@@puretestoster1 thats fine. everyone got his own taste. i just think it`s stupid to say stuff like "ow is infinetly more fun", acting like it`s objective when it`s obvisiously not.

This aged well 😆 devs don't give a shit about ow2 either

@@aadithyaakameswaran9329 Wasn't a dev issue. Leaks said basically Blizzard Execs were responsible for the thing. They didn't give the devs enough time or resources to actually get the game done because they realized the pve wouldn't be long time profit.

@aniketh bandi thanks for the fact check :)

@@AnikethBanditbh it’s all Bobby’s idea who did this repeatedly so the ow team would get so much hate while Bobby is basically protected from all the hate nah that didn’t work out he got exposed

but you still need like 5 levels after activating his contract, so like 7 games per level?

@@leotop6351 Still better than OW2

@@avoidthevo1d cope

Cope

Agents in Valorant take more game hours to unlock compared to Overwatch 2

S-tier for you and a lot of hardcore fans but definitely more of a cult classic these days than universally loved. it's not going to be at that level for everyone.

Yeah TF2 revolutionized in-game economy and trading in general

I think if the marketplace never existed a bigger competitive scene may have arisen. Then TF2 would've been S-Tier. Different timeliness ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It's the GOAT multiplayer game.

TF2 is the father of Valorant and Overwatch through the agent mechanics

Pretty sure they were talking about Valorant

@@Mat69420k ah, I thought they were talking about why overwatch was before valorant

​@@arbre_mystique me who thought they were talking abt cs 🤯

@@satyamrajput725 lol seems like no one knows what they’re talking about

​@@arbre_mystique its was quite obvious they were talking about Valorant lol ur just stupid

Agreed

CoD is great tho. Fortnite not so much but CoD is a classic for a reason. Great gameplay, great story. Val is meh on both. Still my most played game but I can see it’s faults clearly.

Same 🤣

theres no fortnite in this clip tho

​@@pippuu he saw fort and instantly thought it was fortnite lmaooo.

Fr these boomers clearly have strong opinions about games, glasses guy is getting real emotion about a game he doesn’t play. Calling valorant slow is only something a hater of the game would say. Someone is just a little upset about another games success

@@bhawkis5755 Valorant is extremely slow. Just like CSGO. Your job (very vaguely said) is to either hold a position for minutes on end or push that position via smokes, flashes and different tactics. Both the attacked and the deffender need to spend unfun resources like flashes and smokes, that damage/stun/blind the opponent so they can take or deffend the 1 point you want. Thats not fast. Thats extremely slow. Atleast compared to Overwatch or lets say Call of Duty. Can you sprint in Valorant? No. Can you dash/slide in Valorant? I think only the dagger girl can do that. And if we are talking straight up from POV of who did more for gaming, Overwatch or Valorant its not even a question. Overwatch, TF2 and CSGO is literally the only reason Valorant exists.

@@MrFurmos Yes and valorant is still better than all three. OW2 Is straight trash

@@retroslaps cap. OW2 is a much better game than Valorant will ever even hope to be.

@@xornedge8204 and ow is gonna die omegalul

Also the overall visual chaos is more in overwatch, it might be too confusing for new watchers!

Well said as someone who plays both you can look at Valorant go oh that guy got shot by that guy. How tf do you do that when watching ow

CS is the most simple for new viewers though, Valorant still requires knowledge of the game

​@@YaqootYes we all know that that's why nobody was talking about cs

The sniper gives the ninja some roids

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How is wanting to play the game a negative

@@schizballs It's not, I love valorant

@@pedrinhobit i know but they were making a case for why valorant is worse than overwatch and then he says he wants to play it lmao

same

One ability does not make game faster

@@kikirix184 yes…but Valorant isn’t slow unless your duelists are ass…you should be executing onto site really quickly and getting the bomb planted before the enemy team knows what hit them. Post plant is slower…but Valorant is not a slow game.

​@@kikirix184it does? heroes being able to make the pace faster makes the game faster, herpa derpa

@@kikirix184let’s see, Jett’s dash, her updraft, raze satchel, neon run, yoru ult, yoru tp, chamber tp, literally any flash, should I continue?

​@@kikirix184 I bet Bronze right? Go to higher elo and see how quick shit happens you wouldn't even have time to think what's happening.

It does when you get in the higher ranks while valorant you can just stop a push with cypher or kj

@@Ajdjdossorhfbcbxjdd yeah i mean as a former cs player i know how easy valorant is as a game, i just never found ow to have harder fundamentals than cs/val but then again i never was a hardcore ow gamer so idk

It does when u reach plat, diamond, gm, and top500 ranks Like high ranks on ow are pretty skilled since u need strategy and teamwork to win While in valorant I can do whatever tf u want even solo the entire game yea u can work as a team but u can solo the entire match and win which most of my teammates in valo think they are the next tenz lol they aren’t they stupid

@@okdariusValorant is more aim-based. OW demands more mechanical skills and placement, plus map knowledge. For example, Lucio.

​@@billyphatom3436But what I'd say makes OW harder is how it relies a lot more on the team

Ikr, they just stand still while shooting and then rage when they die bro💀

valorant is mid though ☠️

Sure, and csgo can be low

@@fermantgg7887 debatable but ok lol

​@@fermantgg7887 nah the skins and the game better and mordern cs go has the choppiest most 2001 animations

@@fermantgg7887 csgo, a game where you dont hit 50% of your first shot on your crosshair. cool

As a CS player who played and watched a bit of Val, it mostly comes down to the pace of the game and the meta. I know Val is still “somewhat new” and haven’t had enough time to add in enough new characters to truly diversify the meta. It just that most teams just play the same strats and characters that it feels just “slow and stodgy.” Like, you already know how most round will likely end if you played it long enough and know the game very well. In CS, yeah we have most teams using same strat setup, but there will often be times where the unexpected happens. Such as C9 winning the 2018 Boston Major, Outsiders winning the this years Rio Major, Astralis changing the overall meta of the game from late 2018 (iirc), and so on. This is just my opinion but CS doesn’t give you a ceiling cap, and let’s you be the beast that you made yourself into. While Val just feels like it capped a lot of player potential based on the character/role they are playing. Where a support player may have a moment where they can pop off to a level unseen in the game, if they had the right tools during that game/round. But ultimately got their potential restrained due to the role they are playing and the limited tools they have.

@@DumDumPost nah I got like 2.5k hours in cs and prob 1k in val at this point and I feel it's the complete opposite. Especially at higher ranks. CS feels so much of the exact same. Same strats, smokes and positions. You can pretty much predict how rounds will go. Slow defaults into executes in the last 30 seconds. Yawn. That's the reason why Val is more fun to me now. There's an extra element of abilities to add an extra element of unpredictability and an extra chance to outplay someone

@@samuelscott25 I feel like you didn’t get what I was saying. I already stated that both games will follow a certain meta and the same executes. Regardless of which comp shooter you play, there will also be certain meta and execution, you would do repeatedly and it will feel the same. The issue comes down to the pacing and overall ability of the team (and the players themselves) to execute all of their skills. In CS, there is pretty much no skill ceiling for the game. Or another way of putting it, there is no in-game shackle put on the player. You want to be an entry fragger but also a support player? Go ahead. Be an AWPer and an IGL? I don’t see any problems with that. You want to take on multiple roles, such as AWPing, entrying, and IGL? Go at it, brother. Even if someone can reach that ceiling, it is pretty damn high. You'll always be lacking something in a specific area. And all the tools to make you a better player are always available for you to practice with. This also equates to higher chances of unpredictability happening in tournaments (and better viewership numbers). On the other hand in Val, they already cap your skill ceiling to a certain degree (as it currently stands). Or simply put, the game actively puts shackles on players. Forcing them to dedicate themselves to specific roles/characters and does not allow flexibility of trying anything else mid-game/mid-tournament, decreasing the overall chances of unpredictability. And the characters themselves have specific and limited tools to work with. What’s more is if Riot doesn’t make sure each of their characters is well-balanced enough, it just becomes the same old boring mess. With the meta, character selection, and execution almost being the exact same or similar thing. Causing predictability to go up when you know which characters are being played. The only thing left that remains unpredictable is what new characters Riot is going to add, the tools that the character has, the balancing Riot is going to do, and how broken they are when actually being played in tournaments. With limited tools and restraints placed on players, it becomes pretty 'slow and stodgy' as you can guess which characters are going to get played, how they are going to be played, and waiting to see who will mess up first. Right now, Val has the benefit of still being new, still being developed, and having the feeling that the game still has more content to come (which it does, but could change in the future). Even though it is a hero-based competitive tact shooter, there are still some flaws in Val gameplay that can't be easily overlooked. Thus, why I said what I said. Edit: if you want me to clarify it further, let me know. I’m currently studying game design and right now I’m studying the part of influencing player’s decisions making. Edit 2: I should also note that update for CS takes centuries to happen until Val came in. Really thankful that Riot made Val. With competition from Riot, we will also see updates on map pool in CS and possibly new stuff happening in CS.

@@DumDumPost roles don’t limit what you can or can’t do tho. IGLs have played all roles, including duelist, and many players have dedicated themselves to being able to play every role at a tier 1 level, which is extremely hard. We also had people OP on characters besides Jett and chamber and made it work in pro play. And the game is extremely unpredictable. It is really really hard to read the enemy team’s consistently, and to overcome this pros will mainly rely on their ability to adapt through protocols and by understanding how a specific team likes to play (anti stratting). There are always “meta comps” but there are tons of variations that will switch up the play style and there are always teams who try something new and innovate or change the meta. There are also teams that just straight up switch their team comp to throw off anti strats. Also in Valorant there is no dominant region like there is in cs. In csgo Europe basically wins everything but in Val in only 2 years of competition has had numerous wins from both Europe and NA plus a win for the Brazilians. Other regions that would be considered minor regions like South Korea, SEA, and LATAM regularly place in the top 4.

The movement and gun gameplay feels really bad in Valorant. All the ability stuff is what makes Valorant “better” or different

The main difference is that : Valo is difficult to play but easy to master While OW is easy to play but difficult to master. OW has more depth.

@@IronMan-jj2fd the ez to master part feels very misleading. Because it really depends on the type of player you are. There’s so many different tempos to Valorant and timing is probably the most important quality in both games. OW is FAR more predictable tho and it’s way easier to see why you’re losing or winning. In Val the most minute things could give you the advantage and it’s far more unpredictable on how the flow of the match can turn. Even if you’re down 12-1 in Val you still have a chance to win. In OW that rarely happens because the tempo of the game is fairly consistent in almost every elo.

@@Dytanious It literally just aim and positioning. Overwatch has every skill Valorant has but 10x faster with team comp actually being important.

@@CanadianKomodo that’s definitely not true. I do agree though that team comp has a bigger role in OW but that’s where all the skill is. You can jump around and move so freely in overwatch while be completely accurate the whole time (some heroes don’t even require much aim) but in Val it’s far focused on gun play and spray control. You have to strafe in between your shots. There’s the rare instances of run and gun but even that has counter play to it. Overwatch has a very linear and easy to follow tempo where’s Val’s timings are usually pretty varied due to the nature of its rounds system.

Same. Playing the actual game frustrates me. But watching others feels good.

Yeah, the balance system and shitty teammates really ruin the tactical aspect of valorant. You can only really hope to be strategic and tactical starting from high plat or high diamond, depending on your personal expectation of tactical

Amen. I'm playing rn but honestly i'll stop soon and just watch Ascension and League because i'll be busy and rather watch and have fun, than play and suffer for an ounce of fun of the latter.

Just like Riot other game

It comes to the point where there always be that one player who take the game too seriously even rage and blaming teammates in an UNRATED or SPIKE RUSH MATCH! I play the game mostly just for fun now, but these kind of players ruin it for everyone.

Once you understand how to play any game, you can see that its much more simpler than you think, like overwatch

nah valorant is fun but I cant watch someone play its so boring to watch

It's easy to tell what's happening in Valorant because they sit still for 1 minute then use all their abilities in the span of 30 seconds and then it resets

​@@eyeden819Yeah in Bronze, but in sounds like u never watched a pro match. There is always something going on

Been playing valorant since it released and honestly every content creator is the same, they have to fight God himself to find an idea that isn’t clips

holy roast!

Not yet

Ouch

Still trash with lower skill ceiling

​@@NOU-iw3gb lol back your opinion

Dmitri has talked about Valrlorant in the past when the game was still under a year old, and let's just say, it didn't have the impact the org hoped for. And ever since, he's been biting his tongue a lot because he keeps getting his teeth kicked in every time he tries to talk about it. It actually shocked me that he'd talk about Valorant in that way when he's been called out and corrected in the past, but hey, controversy brings consumers, so I can see why they keep the guy around even though he's so disliked.

My guy he’s immortal in Val

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As a sojourn player who recently shifted to moira i can feel ya

Overwatch is my warmup for valorant

ya even little kids can playing it haha ow sucks

TF2 >>>>

​@@bagasadityanugroho3055 i mean... Shroud, a legend of cs:go and very good at valorant being stuck in gold says something... why??? Because ow is a multifaceted team-based oriented game, it's not just pointing at heads and click

@@santiagocaceres4336 so its just teamplay game no need for skill no?

@@bagasadityanugroho3055 u doesn't read anything and still can't admit that val is so generic n replaceable, but ok, you want to be stupid and keep giving yourself the autolike? Ok 🗿

Youre mom is. Valo is like a ph now. Only BS happens there. Csgo is for real man 👍 Csgo: toxic community which prepares you for real world Valo: get a kill and ill say uWu, TOTAL BS

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yeah and he is gold lol

It's not like that at all anymore

Yeah better than waiting for the other to peek

Your like 3 years late

That’s ow1 Ow2 now has one shield only and it ain’t double shield meta however it’s community wants 6v6 back coz now it’s 5v5

@@dagroseren the meta of sojourn, roadhog, and doom isn’t much better lmfao

Nah he's just correct. Said nice things about valorant but it's in no way compared to overwatch and when it comes to competing csgo dunks on valorant. I dont even like csgo either and I like valorant lmao.

Lmaooo

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riot is better at maintaining a game than blizzard, thats the winning factor for me.

i think if u strip away the qol and the more reliable dev involvement in val overwatch is definitely the more fun + interesting higher skill cap game. its a shame blizz is a small indie company 😢

​@@alastairwyn6047 I mean they are going the EA route of profits> quality so... I don't play OW out of despise for what they did to their games lol.

I bought like only 3 or 4 battlepasses. I have a friend who buys everything that comes out.

God I have like 10 vandal skins and only use forsaken. This is so sad can we get 3 likes

Sunk cost fallacy

That’s sad

True, plays and lineups are cool to watch and at this time valorant was still yeah a bir choppy but fun if you let it and actually fast paced. So theres no time to look at stuff unless your quick with it. No offense to anyone :3

And they provide good cinematics and lore.

Valorant is absolute garbage

@@catbeans4685 that’s your opinion and in my opinion valorant is a good game

@Kiyoung. It's not an opinion, though. Riot no longer makes games that are meant to be fun. They make algorithms that dish out dopamine hits to keep you playing a shit game that you only started playing because your favorite streamer got paid to say, "It's good guys" so they can charge you $160 for the color blue and now you can't stop playing because of the sunk cost fallacy 🤡

So... Nothing from Riot, Epic, or Nintendo?

​@@deadersurvival4716 you buggin if you think riot dont listen to the valo community...they just wont do certain thnigs like add workshop or replay system which sucks...other then that the fix bugs lightning fast , update agent abilities which till now have been met with universal praise...

@@rafsanmahdin885 my dude, they don't even fix bugs or listen to their community in their biggest IP of League, and in most cases, add more without fixing anything. While I may have been joking, that doesn't mean I wasn't right.

@@deadersurvival4716 wait.. you were joking? damn, all my life I thought jokes are meant to be funny

@@yuyah7413 I mean, your life is sad and we laugh at that. Dry sarcastic humor ain't gotta be funny. It's just gotta be painfully true to people who are capable of being the punchline.

Yes

No

Yes

Is this a 2v2 in the comment section?

Yes’nt

Did any valorant agents end up on any products? I think I saw gengi on a chip bag a while back lol

Overwatch was huge in 2016, 2017.

It is.... masively... valorant is just wait for other guy to peak..... overwatch is much faster pace and relys much more on team synergy

@@zeloth7 fax + valorant prides itself on "precise gunplay" but when you tap fire it isnt even the same lmao

​@@zeloth7nah, you just ult and gg

​@@MapacheAstral Bro watched too many bronze rank post their 4k reaper ult on youtube

@@zeloth7 same could be said about team synergy for both games it's just that i play both and have seen how they play and overwatch is literally just ult and win because the game is so easy 😂 i respect what you say about it but try valorant and see how difficult it is compared to overwatch 😂😂😂

exactly my thoughts here. i have ~800 hours in val, $200 spent since june 2021 but when ow2 released i havent played val

Yeah the other game modes dont really are that fun so youre either going for a swiftplay or 40 minutes of a serius ranked game

Agree

They think their I-can't-see-anything simulator is more fun than overwatch 1,1.

​@@magnuslund8321 i think both are equal. But im pretty fuckin sure you don't see everything more often in overwatch

i played both overwatch and valorant for hundreds of hours and can say that valorant is easily the better competitive game

@@cntom8233 Oh yeah I love all those Overwatch heroes that deploy smokes and flash, wow they are annoying!

@@Lucas-ro6zf Then you didn't play Overwatch enough. Valorant is just so slow and Overwatch is confusing for new and semi-experienced players. Overwatch has much much more team based aspect to it where Valorant is more about egotistic values.

Overwatch is a lot harder than valorant. Valorant aiming is no where compared to overwatch. Just try aiming with widow compared to chamber with his one shot. Sure there are characters that aren't as aim intensive, but positioning, mechanics, coordination are detrimental. Not to mention that overwatch is a lot less forgiving if you make a mistake which can cause you to lose whole team fights.

@@saifwithme1021 clearly you have never played valorent

@@saifwithme1021comparing widow and chamber ult makes no sense whatsoever. Maybe I’m not understanding, but widow has a sniper she always spawns with, while chamber’s ult is used maybe 2 times a half. They are not comparable. Also it’s not like everything you just said about ow can’t be said about val. Sure, you may not have the best aim, but by positioning well and using util effectively, like NRG FNS, for example, you can still carry a round. Also if you’re on a certain role and you mess up, duelist misses a shot, controller messes up lineup, etc, you probably just lost the round. Everything you said can be applied a lot of other games.

@@saifwithme1021 there are only a few characters in OW that is harder to aim than in val. There some characters like pharah and junkrat that take 0 aim whatsoever. But ye OW is harder in other wayslike movement

@@_volticapex_ ive actually hit immortal 1 after 2 years playing back around july, so i actually havr played valorant. I kinda just stopped after feeling burned out and chamber being dominant for too long

Have you seen the TORB GAMEPLAY????

Low rank valorant allows it, yes. The same way bronze overwatch does.

no this is so wrong it makes me question if you ever played ow. you can get away with more bs in ow than in val cause of how much you have to tryhard in val compared to ow.

@@minhocho5487 yes ofc I’m a torb main

True, and valorant fanboy opinions dont matter much cuz of bias. See how that works? Lol.

@@mikerobertson8540 How about people who like watching both but dont personally play either? (I used to play both, sucked at both as well)

@@John-od8zv That's the best bet for unbiased opinions. I have a friend who thinks overwatch is the best game in the world, and refuses to even play valorant because he thinks it's a shitty copy of overwatch with cs mechanics. There's almost too many fanboys of each game to get genuine discussion going.

@@mikerobertson8540 100% agree, i dont like when players compare games and only point out the good things about A game and the bad things about B game.

Its like the difference between watching a pro and amateur fighting game player. Val, you know that they are very intentional in their game play. OW feels like an amateur player that most of the time spams but gets a lucky play. This is how I see both games when I watch them

It’s the same with ow you just don’t understand overwatch, but ow gets the bonus factor of high action pov, seeing the best do what they do is like an art form. But valorant is 100% a better to watch esport even if you know overwatch in and out. Valorant is so methodical it’s kinda boring to me tho. Sort of like basketball vs football (American) which so you like more.

True, that also changes on how both games play out in many aspects

TF2 has better design

Woohoojin

Ow is significantly harder than valorant in terms of "skill". Movement is much crazier in ow and there is a lot of y axis aiming. Valorant shines more in terms of strategy, and thinking

Literally, I watch valorant and get the urge to play because it’s fun.

Valorant is just for people who cant afford to buy games and for people who couldnt get out of silver in CSGO.

@@EladOSRS CS is free now and so is OW, honestly it's just such a bad game to get into, matchmaking sucks they have huge cheater problems and the menus are disgusting. Maybe if they had a makeover they could actually be relevant in this discussion

Cs isnt free ma guy you need to get prime for comp

@@jenostheascended7818 cs has way less cheaters than people think, it has proportionately less than COD. I believe it’s around of out 200 reports, only 1 is actually a cheater

Because It got less viewers had less stories and was torn apart by riots stupidity

"OW is more fun" "Valorant is slow and choppy", WHAT KIND OF COPIUM IS THIS???

He is kinda speaking the truth, valorant is not evolving as a game. I mean it's still relatively new but at of now the hype for the game has died

@@desmondwidjaja3508wtf are you talking about? In the recent game awards, val won best esport, yay won best esport player, mibr coach (not from sa so idk him) won best coach, and LOUD won best esport team.

@@oranzbowl after that what happens. Theres no new content, valorant hasnt put in any big major changes, they have just been tweaking some stuff here and some stuff there. Theres only so much of the same thing u can do over and over again

​@@desmondwidjaja3508 I dont play valorant and i knew this, the recent patches of valorant actually changed the meta entirely, i dont know where you got your news from.

that extra content is the reason i get headaches from playing it. the extra stuff gets boring real quick and id rather have reliable mechanics than it.

New content is bad tho maybe if they added more duelist it would actually fun they just add boring characters like gekko or fade

Csgo runs on a toaster. Youd get double the frames compared to valorant. Youd also become much better at valorant by playing a harder title

@@mashur4880 You actually think casual cs is harder than valorant?

@@WsG82 csgo is a more difficult game from the ground up. Momentum based movement, less randomized spray patterns. Everyone can do the same thing. You dont have inherent advantages just by choosing the right character. riots so smart they added a character who doesnt even need to participate in the economy fully.

@@mashur4880 It's not more difficult at all because the ceiling for a casual player ain't that high. Same maps , same nades , same peeks. Momentum based movement ? You mean the same counterstrafe that you do in valorant(i know you don't have to) or the bunnyhops which are not that consistent on cs:go compared to 1.6. More characters = diversity in games which lead to fun teamplays and weird combos. To each his own at the end of the day.

@@WsG82 i think youre confusing floor and ceiling. As casual players never get close to any skill ceiling. They have a skill floor. Valorants skill floor is much lower. The counterstrafing in csgo is a skill that is required to make it out of nova. In valorant you let go of movement keys, thats the quickest way to stop your movement and be 100% accurate. You can watch professional players in both games take fights very differently. Valorant allows many more mistakes because of the abilities that compensate for poor positioning. In csgo, you have two options. Commit to the fight, or go somewhere else. You cant tap a or d to take corners like a snail in csgo. You can in valorant. That makes the games skill floor lower. Alongside the lack of needed map knowledge as the first four maps valorant released were hallways and boxes made of paper. Higher randomized sprays, a flat economy, characters that dont even need to participate in said economy. A power curve to characters because balancing hero shooters is impossible. Easier to use weapons, ie sheriff/marshall. (The csgo counterparts dont get nearly the same value)

fr, average ow game blur my eyes

Then again, both these games aren't fun and would rather play something more casual.

@bigtasty no, hog is broken

At the moment? I think for as long as men been on Earth Valorant has been more balanced lol. OW will never be close to balanced

Balanced != fun unless you are playing at a relative high ish level in ladder in my opinion. In most games the broken stuff tends to be the fun stuff.

@@bigtastyfrommcdonldso what lol, it’s his perspective, and neither game is really all that fun anyways

U just explained valorant on unrated

@@Kyo_koutsu so overwatch is valorant unrated?

You mean like every opinion? Valorant just feels slow.

​@@Maggolando then i can say csgo is too fast. Just because one feels slower than other doesnt mean its worse game

@@slayzet4293ikr

​@@slayzet4293he said CSGO is more fun than valorant, it's a tier list of the most fun games according to them. Why are you all valorant players so pressed?

@@alexandervillar7742 im replying to someone, not to the video. When did Chris said anything about which game is more fun than other? He is stating his own opinion and im replying with my own opinion.

My guy, thanks for saying this

he was talking about valorant when he said that

overwatch is more difficult

Nah that’s copium. Valorant you hold angles and is 90% cross hair placement. Any game like OW or Apex where every enemy character has Jett movement and more makes tracking and aiming at high pace more difficult. Mechanically OW is a harder game than valorant.

@@BigL10000 I play both games actively and hell no, overwatch is far from strategic depth

@@themekan3392 since you play both games actively, which game do you think is more difficult?

​@@StimPakTskAwwYea with your mind, i bet i wouldn't get out of silver...

You probably havent played many games then

@@baremangus3576 lmao fr. val is complicated but its so slow in comparison to ow and cs and tf2

@@baremangus3576 please, tell me what other shooter game is more complex and tactical than Valorant that the devs care about, cus clearly there’s plenty out there from what I can take from your comment

​@@TOKYOminttt r6

@@circle7489 Damn brutha I’ve played that but here I was waiting for a whole list of at least 4 games. Honestly, they’re both heavily skilled base and imo, r6 is definitely more tactical but not more complex than Valorant.

i mean its kinda based on it but it misses the mark alot so i get where hes coming from

He means it doesn't invoke the same good feeling like CS does for him.

QL/Q3A are so goated, especially considering people still play what is essentially a touched up 20 year old game