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Is Porsche's Cheapest GT Car Just a Parts-Bin Special? 

Josh Van Veld's Racing Mind
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@smiaaron
@smiaaron 2 года назад
I’ve had a GT3 and a GT4 on the track, and there’s no question I would pick the GT4 for my own car. It may give away a bit in raw speed but the chassis dynamics in the GT4 are really something special.
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld 2 года назад
I think of the Germans being so clinical and precise, it's amazing to me how that translates to such an emotional driving experience.
@993mike
@993mike Год назад
I had an almost identical car for 7 years since new, and it was great, with the exception of it having carbon buckets and Cup 2 tires. Also did the RSS adjustable rear toe links and front thrust arm bushings, and then went 2.5 degrees front and 2 degrees rear camber. So much fun. Was right on the cusp of doing the transmission change to shorter 2-5 gears when I good friend decided to sell his 2K mile 991.2 GT3 with pdk, buckets and PCCB’s, and that engine & transmission combo is just soo good that I had to make the change. The original plan was a GT4RS that I put a deposit down on, but not with the obscene dealer markup being charged on those
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Год назад
I've had the pleasure of driving the same car on Cup 2 tires now and it's amazing how much track tires change the character of the car in terms of handling. Such a joy. I honestly didn't notice the gearing being an issue on the track but I've never driven one of these on the street. What made you so eager to consider the gearing change? I assume that's a pretty pricey undertaking? I've driven the 991.2 GT3 RS a fair bit now and it's an unbelievable car. Congrats! I'd love to try a GT4 RS at some point...
@sanzserif
@sanzserif Год назад
Great vid man. The gearing chatter is interesting. Having driven a range of Porsches, I can say this that is consistent and sometimes even worse in the 911. Never thought it was an issue in the GT4 especially since it has a nice power band from 4k up.
@charleslu7044
@charleslu7044 Год назад
The gear ‘rattle’ is predominant with lightweight single mass flywheels. I had a AASCO LWF installed and loved the quick revs.
@TheWolfMatt
@TheWolfMatt 2 года назад
Very smooth on the track bud, well done. I was kind of hoping to see you try and chase it down in your C6 Z06 but perhaps next time. That GT4 is something special as I had one keep up with me in my 17 ZL1 Camaro around Willow Springs, we traded spots a few times and ended up posting similar laptimes which is crazy since I had double the power he did. Got a sub from me for this one, well put together vid bud. Thanks for posting.
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld 2 года назад
That’s awesome Matt, thanks!
@minimcewen
@minimcewen Год назад
Great video. Own a 981 GT4, had a 16 Cayman and several other 911's. Parts bin = GTS models. GT4 is not a Cayman, it's just a platform, the car is unique in it's own right. Too many differences to Cayman to label it just that but it's gotta have a name and it looks like a Cayman so there ya go. Not sure on the production numbers, I've looked at them all too...just seems much, much easier to find GT3's everywhere vs GT4's. Just don't see them that often.
@clu4u
@clu4u Год назад
My parts bin 981 Spyder has the 9A1 engine from the 911S, steering rack from the911 turbo and PCCBs
@darrenprior6339
@darrenprior6339 Год назад
That has to be the best looking GT4 I've ever seen. Magnificent
@metzgerf16
@metzgerf16 2 года назад
I agree with Hunter. There's nothing wrong with 'parts bin' when it's a damn good parts bin. Didn't see any issues with gearing when you were driving. A friend of mine pushed the Cayman pretty hard when I was car shopping, and I do really want a Porsche. But it's hard to beat the GM options for the money.
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld 2 года назад
I'm sure budget is the top consideration for 95% of sports car shoppers and it's hard to beat a Chevy in that regard, especially if most of your driving will be on the street. I'm curious where my new C6Z is going to be with some focused mods. Gotta be honest, I'm seriously considering selling the Turbo, getting a 981 GT4 as my "nice" occasional track use car, and using the leftover cash to turn the Z into a dedicated time-attack project. Maybe I'll come to my senses but I can't stop thinking about that GT4!! I think I need to try a 996 GT3 before I make any decisions.
@bradjack7734
@bradjack7734 Год назад
It is a bit tall
@DaringGreatlyRacing
@DaringGreatlyRacing 2 года назад
Parts Bin Porsche = Cayman GT4. Parts Bin Pontiac = Aztek
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld 2 года назад
I saw an Aztek on the road the other day and thought about offering to buy it so I can turn it into Walter White's Track Car 😆
@ky7037
@ky7037 Год назад
People were sleeping on these when they were selling in the $80s in winter ‘22 hoping to snatch these for the low. Now they’re climbing back up
@CarbondaM5
@CarbondaM5 4 месяца назад
They never hit that low unless you're looking at high mileage car tho
@eromain37
@eromain37 2 года назад
and another great video Josh! Always like the GT4 and there is something about those cars made in 2016 :)
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld 2 года назад
2016 was an excellent vintage for sports cars!
@adrianleek7211
@adrianleek7211 Год назад
Great video. What a car. Are you sure they made 6,300 981 GT4’s? Is that correct? I’ve read it’s more like 2,500 worldwide as you state in the vid. Where does the 6,300 come from? Would be interested to know as a 981 GT4 owner.
@Redducati1199
@Redducati1199 10 месяцев назад
2500 981 GT4, should make them a bit more desirable long term
@Shawnrraines
@Shawnrraines Год назад
Shopping around for one right now, great informative video! Subbed
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Год назад
Thanks! Really love that car. Hope you find a nice one.
@twinturbo1995
@twinturbo1995 Год назад
Cant find these cars under a 100K anymore great cars but expensive..You could probably get a GT350R or even a C6 Zr1 for way under
@ky7037
@ky7037 Год назад
A couple sold in the $80-90k range on bring a trailer a couple months back
@twinturbo1995
@twinturbo1995 Год назад
@@ky7037 try finding that now lol
@ky7037
@ky7037 Год назад
@@twinturbo1995 oh yeah. That time window has come and gone. Still a lot of people wanting to buy in for that cheap but I think they’re too late to the game
@gahlhunter
@gahlhunter 2 года назад
Great video and super smooth driving 🤘🤘
@CodeBlueNurburgringAtom
@CodeBlueNurburgringAtom 2 года назад
Great video! As always, Porsche’s GT cars are the ultimate in great track cars that can still be driven on the street reliably and comfortably.
@JerryCecco
@JerryCecco 2 года назад
I like Porsches too except for the price, cost of maintenance and on track speed vs Z06
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld 2 года назад
Same here. I'm willing to put up with a lot of downsides if it means I can save $50K. If budget is unlimited, you get the best of the best, but that's not realistic for most of us. I think I can put around $10K in upgrades on my stock C6Z and mop the floor with a lot of more expensive cars in terms of lap times. Then again, some people put lap times way lower on their priority list than I do 😀
@pinkwheels3
@pinkwheels3 2 года назад
@@JoshVanVeld You just need a poor-person Porsche, aka 86/BRZ twin. Cheap fun with toyota budget maintenance costs.
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld 2 года назад
@@pinkwheels3 A HIGHLY tempting proposition. I need to get my hands on one for a video... if only there was somebody local to AMP with one! 😉
@pinkwheels3
@pinkwheels3 2 года назад
@@JoshVanVeld I don't have one I have two :), Roberto has my cell phone number!
@_Suzuka_Joe
@_Suzuka_Joe 2 года назад
my 981 will be here middle of next week and I've got a trackday setup for 10/30 in it.
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld 2 года назад
Congrats! You're going to love it. What track are you heading to?
@_Suzuka_Joe
@_Suzuka_Joe 2 года назад
@@JoshVanVeld eagles canyon. Lots of bike days there but never in a car.
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld 2 года назад
@@_Suzuka_Joe It's crazy how different the track experience is in a car vs. a bike. I love them both almost equally but I have a lot more skill in the car. Hope to get there someday with a bike.
@_Suzuka_Joe
@_Suzuka_Joe 2 года назад
@@JoshVanVeld after 8 years of trackdays and club racing I just sold my bike. I’ve seen so many guys jump from trackdays to club racing and burn out a year or two later and here we are lol.
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld 2 года назад
@@_Suzuka_Joe Wow! What caused the burnout do you think?
@gabem8119
@gabem8119 Год назад
@Josh Van Veld’s Racing Mind cool vid! Don’t know much about the cayman’s, learned more about them from your vid and from my AX last weekend. My instructor races one. While watching your racing lines I noticed the track markers by the edge of the track. I feel they’d be really helpful for those learning that track. Don’t think most track have markers like that.
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Год назад
Thanks! They are helpful although you don’t want to rely on the placement too much because it might not be the ideal line and it can change from car to car. Also I found out that if somebody takes them out in a race and you were relying on them you are suddenly in a bad spot 😅 For sure they’re great for learning.
@timburton1080
@timburton1080 Год назад
Nice video! Just bought a 981 GT4 clubsport, getting the FD shortened with a lightweight flywheel
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Год назад
Congrats! Clubsport must be a ton of fun.
@nebeachbum
@nebeachbum 6 дней назад
Gt4 clubsport is my favorite track car I have owned
@godzla69
@godzla69 Год назад
Good job hunter way to tell your friend to finally strap his helmet on! Lol😂😂😂
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Год назад
😂😂😂
@themafree1105
@themafree1105 Год назад
hello from France, very interesting video Thanks you for your feedback !
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Год назад
Hello! Thanks for watching!
@cayman9815
@cayman9815 Год назад
wow that looks a great track ! and off course the car also 🙂
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Год назад
Really well-suited to that car. Very technical. I can't count how many laps I've done out there and I haven't gotten bored yet 😀
@Juzz_Vibes
@Juzz_Vibes 6 месяцев назад
Can you turn rev match off in sports mode?
@JerryCecco
@JerryCecco 2 года назад
Budget for many people is the first and biggest road block, if not we'd all be tracking $1m (insert hyper car name here)
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld 2 года назад
Absolutely. Everything is relative. Someday I want to do a build where I buy the cheapest possible car that I think I can get below 1:40 at AMP (safely).
@JerryCecco
@JerryCecco 2 года назад
@@JoshVanVeld Welcome to my sandbox, the formula starts with tires, then reliable power then weight......good luck
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld 2 года назад
@@JerryCecco George Costanza voice: Don’t forget the brakes, Jerry!
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld 2 года назад
@@JerryCecco George Costanza voice: Don’t forget the brakes, Jerry!
@smiaaron
@smiaaron 2 года назад
@@JoshVanVeld B Spec car? Great racing class.
@thekingofcamo
@thekingofcamo 2 года назад
What a sexy car.
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld 2 года назад
If I could only pick one word to describe it, that would be a top choice! ❤
@craigc8682
@craigc8682 Год назад
Is the exhaust stock?
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Год назад
Good question, I'm not sure.
@BenR99
@BenR99 Год назад
That or a c8/c7 ?
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Год назад
Good question. I haven't driven a C8 yet. C7 Z06 is less money, way, way more power, and much more practical in terms of space. I'd also pick the looks of the C7. But right now if you made me pick, I'd go with the GT4. The driving experience is just so good.
@tomshores
@tomshores 2 года назад
What no chin strap?
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld 2 года назад
I was wondering who would notice that first! Normally the pit-out folks check to make sure you've got stuff like that taken care of. This time they must have assumed I had my act together (bad assumption!). I fixed it for the next session. I'll be more careful next time.
@Xspeedspec
@Xspeedspec Год назад
That’s the thing…it’s still a Chevy 😂
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