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A Celebration of Science & Reason
Vancouver - November 2nd 2017
With Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins & Matt Dillahunty

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@Pangburn
@Pangburn 9 месяцев назад
We gave away 8000 meals this Christmas 😊 Here is the video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wd1Qv7AzuBw.htmlsi=VBwdhN2tbt-DSQvw
@VestalNumbre
@VestalNumbre 8 месяцев назад
(⁠◕⁠ᴗ⁠◕⁠✿⁠) I still remain hopeful All Scripture is inspired of God+ and beneficial for teaching,+ for reproving, for setting things straight,+ for disciplining in righteousness,+ 17
@atomos96
@atomos96 8 месяцев назад
The bible is useless other than reading it as a fictional writing for entertainment, There are much better modern books for all of that stuff that aren't full of scientific inaccuracies the the morals of primitive savages. The bible is 2000 years out of date and the morals that are decent in the bible are common sense. @@VestalNumbre
@unrecognizedtalent3432
@unrecognizedtalent3432 8 месяцев назад
Wow! Thanks so much for that!
@Mary-wf6ko
@Mary-wf6ko 11 месяцев назад
There is one missing person from-this wonderful session (Christopher Hitchens)❤
@rickcarmack5850
@rickcarmack5850 10 месяцев назад
what an incredible loss for humanity.
@josephinetracy1485
@josephinetracy1485 10 месяцев назад
These are devoutly religious men. The State is their Religion, the Government is their Church, Politicians are their Clergy, Law is their Bible, and they have lots and lots of Faith!
@solasta
@solasta 10 месяцев назад
@@josephinetracy1485 What utter nonsense that is.
@josephinetracy1485
@josephinetracy1485 10 месяцев назад
@@solasta You realize that I'm right, and that was your infantile response! ha ha ha
@ZynGod59
@ZynGod59 10 месяцев назад
@@josephinetracy1485so tell me why you as a religious person, I assume, are using religion as something that’s derogatory? Do you even realize what you’re saying?
@malonesinclaire9201
@malonesinclaire9201 9 месяцев назад
I was felt both anger and freedom when l realized the energy l spent throughout my life that the pursuit of religion was a complete waste of time and energy. The moment l woke up to the nonsense of all religion l felt a great weight lift off my shoulders and an overwhelming sense of freedom.
@theboombody
@theboombody 3 месяца назад
That's how a lot of people feel when they give up a sinful lifestyle as well.
@bensonbrett30
@bensonbrett30 3 месяца назад
@@theboombodyexplain your perspective.
@theboombody
@theboombody 2 месяца назад
@@bensonbrett30 Well, think of the young person that believes they have freedom whenever they can suddenly buy alcohol. A small percentage of them end up becoming alcoholics, and the drink turns them into monsters. They find out the thing they thought was freedom actually locked them in chains. When they finally shake that habit and stop drinking, they feel a much deeper sense of freedom than they felt when they were first allowed to buy alcohol.
@bensonbrett30
@bensonbrett30 2 месяца назад
@@theboombody The chains being sin? And what do you mean by "sin", so I'm clear?
@theboombody
@theboombody 2 месяца назад
@@bensonbrett30 Well, I don't know every sin. But I do know at least one sin. Telling a girl you'll love her forever, and then dumping her as soon as she sleeps with you. That's definitely a sin. Lot of young men embrace that lifestyle and have fun doing it for a while. But then they find a girl they really actually DO like and get married. Then they cheat on her out of habit and become an adulterer. At that point they realize they're in chains.
@gamechannel1115
@gamechannel1115 11 месяцев назад
Dawkins is in good health. I missed this guy!
@gamechannel1115
@gamechannel1115 9 месяцев назад
@siddharthsriram2685 maybe the smart aliens are joking about the possibility of dumb religious aliens lol.
@NYsummertimeCHI
@NYsummertimeCHI Год назад
I think that sticks and rocks is actually a good analogy. Banging sticks and rocks together for a while gets you nothing, but do it with enough persistence and you get fire. In the case of life of course there is a vast array of different chemical reactions going on for a billion years. To my mind the number of chances that creates for producing complex chemicals like proteins and rna vastly outweighs the small probability of producing these molecules by chance.
@BenState
@BenState 10 месяцев назад
no fire would happen
@DrDeuteron
@DrDeuteron 9 месяцев назад
To your mind? That’s not how quantitative science works. Let’s see some numbers.
@cmvamerica9011
@cmvamerica9011 Год назад
The cult of human intelligence 😂
@J.N.R.Doyal86
@J.N.R.Doyal86 10 месяцев назад
One very interesting realization I've had is that Sam spends a lot of time talking about spirituality from the Buddhist perspective, and he talks about the illusion of the self and how you lose the ego and find oneness with the universe through meditation and mindfulness. He promotes this because of his experiences of it and all of the data that supports it. That said, a lot of his atheist friends see this all as more woo-woo and don't really believe it or believe in it. Because of that I have found he and Jordan Peterson aren't all that different. Peterson believes in the power of the stories and the lessons and the inherited knowledge behind religion which is what makes it true. I've listened to Sam try to lead Dawkins through a simple meditation practice but it didn't really move the needle for Richard. Sam and Peterson both promote worldviews that others consider too far outside of what is empreical to be true or believed. I find this to be very interesting. I'm not arguing for or against the validity of either, just something I've noticed that really made me stop and ponder.
@YeshuaisnotJesus
@YeshuaisnotJesus Год назад
Reading the Bible made me an atheist.
@Andrea-zm1nl
@Andrea-zm1nl Год назад
Amen! Reading the Bible, Koran, and several other religions texts also made me an atheist.
@YeshuaisnotJesus
@YeshuaisnotJesus Год назад
@@Andrea-zm1nl How do creationists believe that bullshit is beyond me!!!!!
@Resmith18SR
@Resmith18SR Год назад
The Bible wasn't intended to convert or convince you or anyone that God exists. You can and millions of people can interpret it anyway they want to as being literally true or just a collection of parables.
@donnyh3497
@donnyh3497 Год назад
The only reason I can see to read the bible or quran is to see what kind of ridiculous b.s. people actually are dim-witted enough to believe
@Andrea-zm1nl
@Andrea-zm1nl Год назад
@@Resmith18SR you are absolutely correct. It was written to scare the shit out of bronze aged peasants so that the church could easily manipulate the masses. My point is that actually reading the Bible cover to cover along with several other religious texts is exactly why I'm an atheist.
@jeremybr2020
@jeremybr2020 Год назад
This event was special for me. Because these are the 3 most influential people in my de-conversion from religion. Dawkins started it when i watched the God Delusion many years ago. Followed shortly by me watching Sam Harris, which i believe is one of the best speakers I've ever seen. He can speak in a way that is easy to understand, and doesn't come off as conceded or pompous. And he has such great humor that he can get the whole stage to start laughing, including those he is debating against. And ending with Matt Dillahunty whom I've probably listened to more than any other atheists, because I was a regular viewer of the Atheist Experience show. Matt taught me how I should respond to theists, and what I should respond with, when in conversation/debate with theists. Seeing all 3 together on the same stage was incredible.
@b-sideplank
@b-sideplank 11 месяцев назад
I'm sorry to hear that
@jeremybr2020
@jeremybr2020 11 месяцев назад
@@b-sideplank Seeing how there was nothing negative or sad in my comment, then I can only assume that your comment was a lame attempt at throwing shade at my praise of these 3 speakers. Is that seriously what you're going with though? Maybe you want to reconsider that, and perhaps come up with something that won't make you look so pathetic. lol Put some real thought into it, and at least try to make it a challenge for me.
@X15Prototype
@X15Prototype 11 месяцев назад
​@@b-sideplankNo need to apologise
@jeremybr2020
@jeremybr2020 11 месяцев назад
@@Jak-5 "And they have witnesses to it as well." Wait.......What??? How exactly does that work? How exactly does someone bear witness to someone else's out of body experience while "dead"? Now of course, what you're talking about are NDE's (near death experiences). The key word there being "NEAR". There's never been one case of anyone coming back to life after brain death. Once there is no brain activity, there's no coming back. As far as the cases of NDE's, where people make claims to witnessing things going on in the room, while being "dead", are sketchy at best. They have most certainly waded into those waters already. There have been extensive studies and trials done, called AWARE, which stands for Awareness during resuscitation, the last one having been done in 2016. It was supposed to be a two-year multicenter observational study of 900-1500 patients experiencing cardiac arrest. However it was extended another couple of years. In 2019 they released a condensed version of the study, which included 465 patients. The study consisted of both auditory and visual test. They placed images on a shelf that could be seen from above. But not be seen by the medical staff. Of those 465, only one was able to recall some of the auditory occurrences, but none of the visuals. And just because you may have experienced something that you have difficulty explaining, it doesn't make it something that exist in reality. People get things wrong all the time. Eyes can trick us, our brain can trick us. Personal experiences only count for so much. And that's not a whole lot. If you want the full results of that long study, you can find it here.... www.resuscitationjournal.com/article/S0300-9572(23)00216-2/fulltext
@shooster5884
@shooster5884 10 месяцев назад
​​​​@@Jak-5I believe the unexplained events are because there is a thin line, in my opinion, between life energy being in a live thing and released back into the pool.. how cohesive the print of a live thing .. person or anything else..exists after living I don't know. I have seen what others might call ghosts - too long to go into a few of the examples.. but one saved my life, and another told me something that a live person phoned to tell me 6 hours later. I don't consider any of the experiences I've had like that odd, just that it's frustrating not be able to fully explain them. Another little one I had when sleeping in an old house I was visiting. I was woken by a little girl in an old fashioned pinafore peeping round the door asking me if I had seen her brother. I actually sat up and answered her ' No, sorry I haven't seen anyone' before realising what I was doing! She just left and shut the door. When I enquired about the history of the house there had been a little girl and a boy in the family who had lived there the century before but the little boy had died.. I can still picture the little girls face and her fair hair in ringlets in her white layered pinafore. I have a friend who can know sometimes when something has happened, described a graveyard once she was going to for funeral in another country (before internet access) to the last detail - before she went. It was as she saw it when she got there.. How? I don't know. I don't delve deep into the how or why of unusual experiences but my starting question was 'where is life when it's not in a live thing?' Can it exist independently? Why do some people see ghosts or know things they can't know.... I haven't an answer for myself for that except something to do with energy we call Life being kind of recycled or pooled and certain people are not well enough insulated from the general pool and have 'breakthrough' connecting moments they shouldn't have.. I reckon the phrase ' the sixth sense' didn't come into being without reason.. Books written by men supposedly from a God figure? No I can't take that seriously. Not just the books but it wouldn't be logical for a God if it existed to have people fighting over which book and killing the other book believers... Spirituality.. that I personally see as different entirely from religions and believing in a god.. I did have one of those tunnel experiences when I was asleep, in my 20s and healthy.. maybe I stopped breathing or something. It was like being dragged backwards at warp speed in a tunnel out the bedroom window. The force and weight was enormous and it was like I was also the tunnel as well as being pulled through it.. I knew it was pulling me from my bed and had to stop it. I woke with a jolt sweating and my heart beating fast and thought 'what the **** was that??' ..I moved my pillow down the other end of the bed so the window wasn't behind my head thinking to avoid a repeat of being dragged out it again.. ! It was terrifying to be honest. What had happened? I don't know. I'm not someone who stops breathing in my sleep and tg it never happened again😂
@Guys_Love_Each_Other
@Guys_Love_Each_Other Год назад
i wouldn't say that religion is dead, but it has definitely lost some of its influence and relevance in recent times. more and more people are becoming skeptical of religion, and many are turning away from it. this is partly due to the fact that people have access to more information and scientific knowledge than before, which has allowed them to better understand the world around them without relying on religious beliefs. in addition, the prevalence of religious extremism and violence has also contributed to people's growing distrust in religion.
@jameswyatt1227
@jameswyatt1227 10 месяцев назад
Name one religion that was not based on violence...the very beginning of man made religion is covered in blood and violence..its not the messenger its the message's ...each 4 books say to kill or, that killing is justified. Where was the rights of females in any of the books ? ITS MAN MADE
@AlicedeTocqueville
@AlicedeTocqueville 8 месяцев назад
I'm sure that's true, and some of it is due to more people having access to education, some perhaps being less dependent on religious institutions (slightly more widespread material wealth), and perhaps, women having more independence. I'm largely just agreeing, I realize.
@bobf5360
@bobf5360 8 месяцев назад
i think you are confusing its influence in your life with the greater world. If you add up just Muslims, Christians, and Hindus in the world, that accounts for about 72.5% of humanity. Worse still, religion (or its surrogates) at the top echelons of power in many countries is entrenched and insidious. Don't kid yourself, religion- even in the narrow deist sense, is far from dead. We are about to enter an age where we worship AI as magic, because we will have no choice, and that is no different than worshiping a god controlling the tides because we don't know how lunar gravity works.
@theboombody
@theboombody 3 месяца назад
Too bad science does nothing for morality. The religion scientism was invented to add morality into science, but real science doesn't do that.
@Chriscraft50
@Chriscraft50 Год назад
Jordan Peterson believes god reveals himself when tripping on mushrooms. It only took him 2 hours to say it. Great debates. Love the platform.
@adifferentangle7064
@adifferentangle7064 Год назад
Yeah he didn't say that. I think personally JP has gone very much to the Christian side but due to his position as a psychologist cannot make that public. It still amazes me that people don't realise why he phrases things so weirdly. Taking a public stance on literally anything is the psychologist equivalent of insider trading. When he actively decides to retire from psychology we might get his actual opinions.😂
@patman142
@patman142 Год назад
He literally did say that along with many other word salads
@jacoblehrer4198
@jacoblehrer4198 Год назад
@@adifferentangle7064 he's been "retired from psychology" for a while now
@patricknewton1368
@patricknewton1368 Год назад
I’m guilty (or privileged, depending on how you look at it) of watching all of Petersons lectures, biblical series, daily wire content, reading his books and trying to understand his position. As well as the position of his influences like Dostoyevsky, Nietchze, Jung, Tolstoy, etc. I’ve gone down a rabbit hole of information the last few years and from my perspective - it seems that JP has actually thought seriously about the merit of Christianity, attempting to peel it up from all sides using the tools provided by the existentialists as well as various sources in psychology and philosophy. Christianity is such a complex topic that to reduce it down to simple mythology containing a moral guide or alleviation from death anxiety is too simplistic of a description for a book that has outlasted stone kingdoms and helped form new societies. So I think JPs relationship to Christianity is as complex as the phenomenon itself. Maybe it’s one of empathy and understanding, while still recognizing the obvious problems with it, but I wouldn’t say he’s jumped aboard, just sees the historical consequences of so called “godless” nations.
@adifferentangle7064
@adifferentangle7064 Год назад
@@jacoblehrer4198 No, he retired from his position at the university and stopped publicly practising. He hasn't stopped being a psychologist.
@bensonbrett30
@bensonbrett30 Год назад
Loved the question on Christopher Hitchens. A Phenomenal Orator.
@510tuber
@510tuber 11 месяцев назад
You should watch Peter Hitchens, his brother, on Alex O'Connor. He acted like such a baby lol. It was uploaded a few days ago. If you didn't know, his brother is religious.
@AlicedeTocqueville
@AlicedeTocqueville 8 месяцев назад
Christopher Hitchens was a phenomenal orator, an even better investigative journalist, an even better than that writer of books, and, I think, a lovely human being. I met him a few times, and he was very kind and willing to engage in conversation. I miss him terribly.
@bensonbrett30
@bensonbrett30 2 месяца назад
@@510tuber I did. Not a fan of PH perspectives.
@sindibadage
@sindibadage Год назад
Sometimes I just wish I'd hit my head and wake up with that amazing ability to remember everything I have ever listened to... 😅😅
@kingwillie206
@kingwillie206 Год назад
Some things are best forgotten.
@6UAXINIM9
@6UAXINIM9 11 месяцев назад
​@@kingwillie206best forgotten like the bible, right?
@kingwillie206
@kingwillie206 11 месяцев назад
@@6UAXINIM9 - Especially that!
@josephinetracy1485
@josephinetracy1485 10 месяцев назад
These are devoutly religious men. The State is their Religion, the Government is their Church, Politicians are their Clergy, Law is their Bible, and they have lots and lots of Faith!
@Archanox
@Archanox 9 месяцев назад
@@josephinetracy1485 no, that is not how this works... State, law, government all lack a supernatural aspect. And while I admit I do not understand politics well, all of it can be proven and demonstrated.
@Wucc2caz
@Wucc2caz Год назад
This is one of the best conversations I have ever heard. What a delight.
@mfdannydanger
@mfdannydanger Год назад
Cringe world!
@mfdannydanger
@mfdannydanger Год назад
6:00 so so wise
@josephinetracy1485
@josephinetracy1485 10 месяцев назад
These are devoutly religious men. The State is their Religion, the Government is their Church, Politicians are their Clergy, Law is their Bible, and they have lots and lots of Faith!
@ljramirez
@ljramirez 8 месяцев назад
​@@josephinetracy1485what a stupid comment... You're a simpleton.
@bobf5360
@bobf5360 8 месяцев назад
I like a lot of Sam's and Richard's works, but Dillahunty just wants to make a "lets all circle jerk and bash opinions of people not here to debate". Dillahunty isn't really very enlightening in his arguments, unlike Harris on philosophy and neuroscience, and Dawkins on evolution and science.
@Pangburn
@Pangburn Год назад
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@Nusrat-p9t
@Nusrat-p9t Год назад
😊😅
@b1uefalc0n50
@b1uefalc0n50 11 месяцев назад
Can someone please for the love of the flying spaghetti monster reply with the link of the video with matt and the priest at the highschool debate where the priest said scientists believe we can rub sticks and rocks and produce a puppy?
@cb14011970
@cb14011970 Год назад
When one watches these three gentlemen, you know you are listening to truth and reason. Sam Harris' intillegence produces his wit. I feel the world is again making sense whilst I watch people of this calibre and that I am in good company. Sanity is valuable. Insanity is religion.
@forsaken841
@forsaken841 Год назад
Sam Harris only sounds intelligent because of the way he talks and his use of vocabulary. But he's actually an complete moron.
@davidjanbaz7728
@davidjanbaz7728 Год назад
Insanity is you're default position of nonintelligence created the Universe !
@markusnixon3156
@markusnixon3156 Год назад
@@davidjanbaz7728 Gosh talk about proving their point, you're not even being respectful about disagreeing with them, you see how these guys in the debate are respectful to each other, even when they disagree on the topic, please try to be more like that!
@chrissavage1449
@chrissavage1449 Год назад
As an ex- Christian fundamentalist, I whole heartedly agree.
@Realworlddummy
@Realworlddummy Год назад
@@markusnixon3156that’s hypocrisy, the original comment literally call religious people insane sure his friendly alright.
@patricknewton1368
@patricknewton1368 Год назад
Love seeing Harris back in the public sphere.
@cmpc724
@cmpc724 Год назад
This is old lol, re-uploaded with better audio.
@colelewis9940
@colelewis9940 11 месяцев назад
@@cmpc724 We can be religious minded and re interpret it as this video being reuploaded is technically reintroducing it into the public sphere lol
@jacobostapowicz8188
@jacobostapowicz8188 11 месяцев назад
Oh because of the 'corpses of children in his basement' remark? Yeah he has TDS
@BenState
@BenState 10 месяцев назад
from 2017
@karagi101
@karagi101 10 месяцев назад
@@colelewis9940That sounds like something Jordan Peterson would say. LOL
@alfresco8442
@alfresco8442 Год назад
I can't speak for the USA, but in Western Europe religion is on its last legs. Church attendance in the UK has fallen off a cliff in recent decades; and is now confined largely to the elderly. On the latest census forms No Religion rated higher than any other belief ...or combination of beliefs. The many medieval cathedrals and churches are well worth preserving though, as works of art and monuments of our cultural heritage.
@thomasmurrell6908
@thomasmurrell6908 Год назад
This is very true, i'm English and a lifelong atheist, from what i have seen most English people don't give a crap about religion, it's become a bit of a joke. But i agree that some cathedrals and medieval should be preserved. Most of the ones i know who go to church only go for weddings, funerals and christenings, what i call fairweather Christians.
@annegraham9339
@annegraham9339 11 месяцев назад
I'm also English and, whilst it is true that religion is in decline, we still have religion tightly intertwined with government and the public realm. Bishops sit in our second government chamber, the House of Lords. Huge numbers of schools are tied to churches and it is a legal requirement for schools to hold assemblies which are "broadly Christian" . A large number of schools are allowed to discriminate in favour of children with church going parents. The Church of England features strongly in public events and our Members of Parliament reserve seats in the House of Commons each day by attending "prayers" in the morning. The state hasn't yet caught up with public opinion.
@alfresco8442
@alfresco8442 11 месяцев назад
@@annegraham9339 I couldn't agree more. Way too much power and influence still held by the church...out of all proportion to the numbers sharing those beliefs. Church schools make a mockery of our education system, as parents cynically work the system, which in no way reflects their own belief. Still. At least a history of religious education in schools has done its job in turning the nation secular.
@blupandax7902
@blupandax7902 11 месяцев назад
Islam is growing like crazy in Europe thanks to immigration and high birth rates of Muslims. In a few decades Europe will succumb to Shariah law. You atheists don’t stand a chance again at Muslims, they will conquer you so easily 😂
@DrDeuteron
@DrDeuteron 9 месяцев назад
Religion is on the rise over there…esp in England
@Steve-Cross
@Steve-Cross 10 месяцев назад
I find it hilarious that theists associate atheism with clever people. As if having reason and logic was a bad thing. They really don’t get it do they? 😂
@windseraph2938
@windseraph2938 Год назад
SAM IS SPEAKING STRAIGHT FACTS! I understand 100%
@mfdannydanger
@mfdannydanger Год назад
Not gay facts? Bigot!
@josephinetracy1485
@josephinetracy1485 10 месяцев назад
Sam Harris is a devoutly religious man. The State is his Religion, the Government is his Church, Politicians are his Clergy, Law is his Bible, and he has lots and lots of Faith!
@bobf5360
@bobf5360 8 месяцев назад
the kid at 50:00 needs to read more. Free will is not even close to reality.
@dl3472
@dl3472 Год назад
I dont understand religion at all. Do you people actually believe it literally or is it some type of self help thing where you visualize something inside your mind to make you feel better?
@festeradams3972
@festeradams3972 Год назад
If it was dying, its not fast enough. That being said however it won't die, because most people like a nice simple story to explain things they don't want to devote any rational thought to, assuming they were capable of it in the first place. Even then they cherry pick just the myths they like. As far as talking to the religious, I treat them and all politicians the same..."If this is where you're going you can stop talking".
@Apistevist
@Apistevist Год назад
It won't die until our genetics change significantly enough to afford a far superior average brain.
@jarrilaurila
@jarrilaurila 8 месяцев назад
Oh my science
@robertgillies5997
@robertgillies5997 9 месяцев назад
Is religion dead? When was it ever alive? Only in people's imagination.
@mysunnybird
@mysunnybird 10 месяцев назад
Those discussions are fantastic and very informative. I wish everybody would be as interested as I am in listening to this wonderful and intelligent people talking about such important subjects. I love to hear them talking and I miss Christopher Hitchens. What a great loss. Anyway, those 3 Gentlemen were a pleasure to listen to. Thank you so much.
@josephinetracy1485
@josephinetracy1485 10 месяцев назад
These are devoutly religious men. The State is their Religion, the Government is their Church, Politicians are their Clergy, Law is their Bible, and they have lots and lots of Faith!
@davidrexford586
@davidrexford586 9 месяцев назад
@@josephinetracy1485 Indeed.. the Godless love running around claiming there is no God but never try to understand why those who used to not believe in God , now believe in God. To believe in God goes beyond trying to understand God from a scientific perspective towards one on a spiritual level.
@josephinetracy1485
@josephinetracy1485 9 месяцев назад
@@davidrexford586 If Atheists were honest at all, then they would admit that their do NOT love anyone in this world; not their parents, children, etc. According to their logical train of thought.... "Love" is merely a stupid brain function; a few neurons racing around the pleasure center of the brain. However, since they don't want to come off as complete s**theads, they maintain this "imaginary friend" (their own term) of theirs!
@AlicedeTocqueville
@AlicedeTocqueville 8 месяцев назад
​@davidrexford586 My atheism came when I was at Mass, praying. It occurred to me that a being that's powerful enough to create everything would hardly be concerned with the opinions of the puny beings he created. THAT idea seems like something humans might make up. I was 14 then, in my 8th year of Catholic school. It kind of makes me wonder why so many who believe in a god feel that they have to have churches, and all the judging, and denouncing etc. As if you think god needs YOUR help, needs YOU to run the place for him. I kind of remember a Bible story in which the disciples asked Jesus something about what are virtues, and he answered, "Faith, hope, and love, but the greatest of these is love".
@davidrexford586
@davidrexford586 8 месяцев назад
@@AlicedeTocquevillethe reality is we all go through life by OURSELVES and die all by ourselves and take nothing with us. If I believe in God and you choose not to , how can your choice to not believe affect me in any way whatsoever??? You don’t die with me and I don’t die with you and you get to choose whatever you want and I can do likewise. I am not the keeper of your soul just like you are not the keeper of my soul. So many think they have more power over others than they actually do and I NEVER force anyone to believe what I believe versus what they believe. We all have free will just like we all can do whatever we choose to do. Does it make any sense what I am saying?
@yacobus2206
@yacobus2206 Год назад
One of the foibles of human nature is the influence of beliefs where rationality is complexed with emotion. Plainly speaking all of us vary in times when thoughtful understanding of rationality influences how we feel vs. deeply felt emotional beliefs that seriously affect our rationality. In this situation use our minds not to seek the truth to rationalize how we feel and make it look logical. This is the reason why 90% or more of beginning traders lose in the futures market. Once you take a position you become very emotionally committed, defending the logic that initiated the position even when it's decimating your margin account. The evolutionists are caught in this trap
@ProgPiglet
@ProgPiglet Год назад
This is all true and yet reductionistic in regards to traders. The main reason why traders, regardless of experience level, lose in futures or any market is not just mentality. There are so many traders out there that cultivate the correct mentality and trade systematically, and yet still fail at their craft because they genuinely don't have a clue how price action works, and what a good trading strategy actually is. Yes maybe if you have the mentality of a monk, you can get away with using a very systematic VWAP or Ichimoku strategy profitably, eeking out a couple percentage a month. But the simple fact is you're going to feel lost at sea the whole time you're doing it, because the fact is you are lost at sea, because you don't know what order flow is, or how it works, or how liquidity is used to by liquidity creators, or how algorithms are coded, what fib box algorithms are, what swing points/trend starts are, how many closes above a certain swing constitutes as a gain/failure, and therefore what a trend reversal even looks like... there's a lot more going on under the hood than just mere mentality, because if it was just about mentality all the most calm people in the world would print money. Reality is there are kernels of knowledge which you are never going to know about because they're hidden behind life long NDAs in many cases. Why else do you think banks invest billions of dollars into black box algorithms, whose sequences are then subtly changed every couple months or so? It isn't for fun, it's because the whole stock market is a rat race where not so obvious principles are used to toy with people- even very smart, logical, sane, equanimous people. In other words, I just outright recommend to new traders to not even bother with trading unless you know someone who used to work for an investment firm or a bank, because that's what you're fighting against. Billion dollar bank algorithms and whales who can guess with a great deal of certainty the stop loss of everyone in the market using order flow, and therefore can move and manipulate price action in such a way which will run against the grain of human intuition, ad nauseum. Something like poker on the other hand, is just a matter of getting a read on another silly peasant and calculating the probabilities in your favour again and again. There the analogy of just having the right mentality and not getting fully wedded to emotional biases is much more salient
@AndyCampbellMusic
@AndyCampbellMusic Год назад
An exact description of imaginary, superstitious, religious beliefs... The undeniable proof an overwhelming evidence is contained in one very simple fact that any fool capable of breathing in and out could understand. No people = No imagined gods. Indisputable proof ALL gods are imaginary...
@Sameer-er3wz
@Sameer-er3wz 10 месяцев назад
Both Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins are such men of integrity. Sam has experienced something subjective that Richard has not. Sam does not mind, rather has the courage, talking about it even if it may make him sound like a fool in front of his fellow scientists and rationalists. Richard, also has the courage to say he understands nothing about it, though it may make him look like he has missed out on one aspect of life completely, in front of men like Sam. Both need tremendous integrity - another reason to admire these two gentlemen.
@josephinetracy1485
@josephinetracy1485 10 месяцев назад
These are devoutly religious men. The State is their Religion, the Government is their Church, Politicians are their Clergy, Law is their Bible, and they have lots and lots of Faith!
@bobf5360
@bobf5360 8 месяцев назад
I agree with you. I can't really get behind Dillahunty because he's a bit of a self-aggrandizing arrogant a-hole. He says at 1:17 "don't pretend to read people's minds.." etc, when sam is trying to point to the problem of straw-manning peoples arguments in isolation, when that is PRECISELY what Dillahunty does with many religious arguments. I am 100% in the camp of arguing against religions, and think that Sam and Richard do an eloquent job of it, but Dillahunty just doesn't. He also does this again when he says things like "I think Sam thinks he is X, but I know he is Y"(earlier in the recording), which, again, isn't engaging with an argument. Dillahunty doesn't want to argue against arguments, he wants to argue against people. Matt would do well to learn from Sam's friend and peer, Majid Nawaz: "No idea is above scrutiny and no people are beneath dignity.".
@mikeshivak
@mikeshivak 7 месяцев назад
​@@bobf5360 yes he has people call in to argue
@mikeshivak
@mikeshivak 7 месяцев назад
​@@josephinetracy1485 what? Where was any of this mentioned?
@TheTricksterFigure
@TheTricksterFigure 6 месяцев назад
I don't know what is God or does he exist and I don't care because religion is not about God, it's about living. There is no descriptions of God in the Bible or any other religious texts, but there are descriptions of what is right and what is wrong. In fact if you ever read the Bible God might be a pure metaphore for life or the existence itself. The earth is full of selfishness, envy, hate, people mock each other in every corner of the internet, it's really hard to watch how people behave and how they treat others. Religion isn't about the existence of God we don't know what God is, religion is about being a decent human being and treating others like such. What other discipline teaches us how to be a moral person ?? None, that's why people are like they are, world is in moral decay right now and it's becoming ugly. People who think we can find our morals without religion are wrong, people are envious, selfish, hatefull and it comes naturally but it's very hard to do something good and help someone. That's why we need religion, to achieve balance against our evil side, to teach us why it's good to help someone and not be selfish or hatefull, not about God at all. God can be imaginary ideal as for me but that doesn't diminish the value and purpose of religious teachings.
@theboombody
@theboombody 3 месяца назад
Definitely some moral decay in the world. Promiscuity alone has caused a lot of pain to a lot of people. The Bible makes a lot of warnings against promiscuity.
@pesco7
@pesco7 10 месяцев назад
It’s humbling to hear these three incredibly intelligent gentlemen talk about how little we know about consciousness. It’s so refreshing to hear that type of discussion without a theist trying to shove “God” as an answer to that question.
@josephinetracy1485
@josephinetracy1485 10 месяцев назад
These are devoutly religious men. The State is their Religion, the Government is their Church, Politicians are their Clergy, Law is their Bible, and they have lots and lots of Faith!
@ithurtsbecauseitstrue
@ithurtsbecauseitstrue 8 месяцев назад
God is not an “answer” to that question. I think you’re aimple not understanding the Christian or theist in your hatred and bigotry against them
@josephinetracy1485
@josephinetracy1485 8 месяцев назад
@@ithurtsbecauseitstrue Who are you addressing?
@ithurtsbecauseitstrue
@ithurtsbecauseitstrue 8 месяцев назад
the original post. But youtube on mobile browser does not reply properly when you hit “reply.” youtubes browser mobile site is utter garbage
@AlicedeTocqueville
@AlicedeTocqueville 8 месяцев назад
@ithurtsbecauseitstrue1922 I know all about it. My whole youth was religious training. But, in church, praying one day, it occurred to me that it's absurd to imagine that a being, powerful enough to create all that is, would be concerned with the petty things of tiny humans. It is absurd. I haven't ever seen or heard anything to counter that realization. I am very lucky. I had the best parents of anyone I've ever known. They taught us, my 5 brothers and sisters, kindness, honesty and joy. No one could have had better parents. I won't go on about them now, but I will just say that my children, and my grandchildren are wonderful, honest people who are truly loved by everyone who knows them, including people in business. We don't need religion to know what's right and what's wrong. We just have to care, and be honest.
@Jackaroo.
@Jackaroo. Год назад
Islam certainly isn't dying, Christianity is growing as well.
@andy2950
@andy2950 9 месяцев назад
AKA Ignorance is growing.
@richardharvey1732
@richardharvey1732 Год назад
Hi Pangburn, as usual I am responding primarily to the caption on this video, my simple answer to the question is that since all religions are based on cognitive delusions which are a natural human attribute that serves to reduce the amount of time and effort people have to spend thinking clearly and properly religion will die with humanity, given the distant possibility of a new sub-species of humans not so prone to delusion it is possible that humanity could survive religion but would they be the same humans?. All of the perceived power of religions has always been embedded in the assumed authority of the priests and churches and as that authority dwindles it looks as if it is the religions that are weakening. One must reflect however that people will find substitutes for conventional religions, any sort of secular populist 'movement' shares the same fundamental characteristics of delusion. All and any of them can be promulgated by those who see the opportunity presented to set themselves up as spokespersons or leaders of such sects and sub-cultures, thus delivering something that has all the same cultural identifiers. This is quite enough to produce everything that we now observe from vegans to democrats a little bit of simplistic mythology goes a very long way!. Cheers, Richard.
@justgivemethetruth
@justgivemethetruth 8 месяцев назад
I'm definitely a non-golfer! Hahaha, that was hilarious
@ZenWaveFunction
@ZenWaveFunction Год назад
Religion and myth will certainly be reduce in OECD and Liberal Democratic nations. But the expansion of population of “global south” that is mostly authoritarian from Africa, Middle East and many part of Asia are 85 percent world population were brought with myth and religious construct along with authoritarian religious and toxic social conservative culture. It should be a concern but the UN have no power to interfere with their social construct. Is sad many member states in UN are made up of these nations. So how can western liberal democracy intervene and change this social construct to a social liberal pedagogy base on secularism & liberalism?
@opinion3742
@opinion3742 Год назад
You don't think that the west has done enough damage already?
@ZenWaveFunction
@ZenWaveFunction Год назад
@@opinion3742 The wonderful oppressed “Global South”, they can’t be the oppressor nor racist. Their leaders are emancipator of the oppressed . LMAO.
@lennyrobo4293
@lennyrobo4293 Год назад
Sam is hilariously funny😂
@PunjabiGhazal
@PunjabiGhazal Год назад
All the corporate shills and islamophobes are funny but freakout when they hear word "liberty" ..then they want censorship enforced by the government. He is just anti-muslim not an atheist. Pro-big pharma who got really exposed during covid shutdowns.
@ingenuity168
@ingenuity168 Год назад
Richard Dawkin's neckties are fabulous. ❤
@paulpiasta9532
@paulpiasta9532 9 месяцев назад
Three of my all-time favorite people.
@bobf5360
@bobf5360 8 месяцев назад
i'll go 2/3 with you. I can't really get behind Dillahunty because he's a bit of a self-aggrandizing arrogant a-hole. He says at 1:17 "don't pretend to read people's minds.." etc, when sam is trying to point to the problem of straw-manning peoples arguments in isolation, when that is PRECISELY what Dillahunty does with many religious arguments. I am 100% in the camp of arguing against religions, and think that Sam and Richard do an eloquent job of it, but Dillahunty just doesn't. He also does this again when he says things like "I think Sam thinks he is X, but I know he is Y"(earlier in the recording), which, again, isn't engaging with an argument. Dillahunty doesn't want to argue against arguments, he wants to argue against people. Matt would do well to learn from Sam's friend and peer, Majid Nawaz: "No idea is above scrutiny and no people are beneath dignity.".
@jtlearn1
@jtlearn1 Год назад
They admit they have ignorance but absolutey, omnisciently certain there is no God.
@mattparks8434
@mattparks8434 11 месяцев назад
An hour and forty minutes of cordial discussion on many many topics and nuances and this is what you pull from it? Showcasing a perfect example of what they touched on during the Q and A: some people are only looking for something they can take out of context to mean something else in the context they create. Saying one type of vision of God is not possible is not the same as saying it is impossible for there to be a god period. If you think any of these men state that they are 100% certain no type of god could exist, you need to do more research.
@Resmith18SR
@Resmith18SR Год назад
I agree with Sam Harris that mystical experiences and the feeling that we are one with the natural universe are valid personal experiences that are also acknowledged and validated by scientific research. The illusion of "self" is the fact that we are given a name at birth and that our lives are in a real sense, a creation of the society we happen to have been born in and that we all have a story or sequence of events and experiences that make us a "self." Our selves are in part a human construct created by social interaction.
@stefand5034
@stefand5034 Год назад
But still you are not explaining away the true scientific fact but a nicely constructed philosophical approach to the hard problem of consciousness by implying "illusion" of the self is some kind of a given fact but nobody is capable of defining the constructs, the building blocks, the particle of illusion, or the particle of the self, say, if illusion and self have an equal value, the mathematics should work out the coefficients ascribed to your own unique life experience aka illusion. Look, illusion and delusion go hand in hand
@Resmith18SR
@Resmith18SR Год назад
@@stefand5034 I really don't understand what the hell you're talking about. The human self in part is a construct of social interaction. That's a basic concept in Sociology 101.
@Guys_Love_Each_Other
@Guys_Love_Each_Other Год назад
i also agree with sam harris on this. it is true that the self is an illusion in the sense that is a social construct created and shaped by our experiences and interactions with others. we are all connected to one another, and we all share the same fundamental essence of consciousness and being. some may refer to this as "oneness" or "the singularity", and it can be a powerful and meaningful experience. in the end, we are all part of the same reality, and we ultimately come from the same source.
@schenksteven1
@schenksteven1 Год назад
Unfortunately Sam has lost his credibility in light of his adoption of COVID-superstition.
@Resmith18SR
@Resmith18SR Год назад
I look at Religion like Philosophy as a search for Ultimate Reality, and Ultimate Concern, no matter how you conceive it.
@jameswyatt1227
@jameswyatt1227 Год назад
So not the word of a god then...thereby religion is nonsense.
@Resmith18SR
@Resmith18SR Год назад
@@jameswyatt1227 Einstein thought differently and I agree with him concerning Religion and Science. I think he may have been just a tad smarter than you James.
@jameswyatt1227
@jameswyatt1227 Год назад
@Resmith18SR and yet...he is not...following a false idol and claiming to have access to another realm without submitting proof is a lie you tell yourselves to feel less pointless.
@Resmith18SR
@Resmith18SR Год назад
@@jameswyatt1227 You really don't know what the hell you're talking about. 🤣😂🤣
@missypead2293
@missypead2293 10 месяцев назад
​@@jameswyatt1227there is more to the world then material. If the material provides all answers, why do we have a brain to even think.
@lawsonransom8318
@lawsonransom8318 Год назад
The height of ironically arrogant ignorance is a being that denies the existence of a creator using an organ in it's skull called a brain which is more powerful than any computer on the planet, it runs his heart, lungs, eyes, nervous system, spleen, liver, kidneys, allows him to see, smell, feel, walk, taste, breath, talk and goes on to spend it's whole life talking about the very thing it doesn't believe exists. Poor fellow.
@3joewj
@3joewj Год назад
Nothing is definitely a simple beginning that produced complexity 😂
@ZeeAmy
@ZeeAmy Год назад
This is the only unbiased place I've found on the internet. Thank you @pangburn ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@dandavidson6097
@dandavidson6097 Год назад
Atheists can't be unbiased.
@trustidea
@trustidea Год назад
Wouldn't really say atheism an unbiased stance though....
@EpicLemonMusic
@EpicLemonMusic Год назад
@@trustideaAtheism isn’t a stance though, it is a lack of a stance, these guys on stage might have stances like Secular Humanism, Moral Landscapes, but atheism is not a stance, we don’t believe in baseless trash evidence for any god whether it be spaghetti monster, Buddhism (most common gods) and Christianity(incredibly un.substantiated world view with hundreds of differing stances). Evolution is a proven fact, beyond any reasonable doubt, whether a god created it or not. So that is also not a “view” it is fact.
@13shadowwolf
@13shadowwolf Год назад
​​@@trustideaatheism is biased towards only accepting claims that have evidence. Atheism is the only objective stance that can be taken in investigating god claims; believers accept bad evidence based on "faith". Theism has had many thousands of years to find anything to support their views, and they still have nothing. That alone should demonstrate just how dumb it is, to still be holding out that any human book actually refers to a god that has the ability to create this universe.
@ithurtsbecauseitstrue
@ithurtsbecauseitstrue 8 месяцев назад
Religion haters always think their own opinions are unbiased, their own hate justified, their intolerance necessary, and their atrocities ignorable or excusable. Its almost like its not the self that is the illusion so much as it is the intellect that is the illusion.
@houstandy1009
@houstandy1009 11 месяцев назад
I find it ironic that they, along with the audience, laugh at "rub a stick and rock together and leave it long enough and eventually get a puppy" when they advocate for, fly a rock in from space, land it in a muddy puddle and leave it long enough and eventually get a puppy. while I also think rub a stick and stone together and get a puppy is laughable, at least the stick contains cellular life, the thing that Dawkins tells us is all you need to get to the puppy, unlike the hypothesis he advocates.
@Peter-wp5vb
@Peter-wp5vb 11 месяцев назад
They employed a classic straw man. They zoned in on that one pastor’s argument of “sticks and stones” *effectively* as a representation of the creationist side Straw man galore! And very ironic, due to their professed aversion to straw men
@t.dizzle83
@t.dizzle83 18 дней назад
It’s really refreshing and calming to watch these guys talk between them selves and not having to argue against some absolute idiots about fact, truth and science, I get so pissed off by the end of those debates.
@jtlearn1
@jtlearn1 Год назад
This scientific discussion is very relgious.
@BenState
@BenState 10 месяцев назад
fail
@casparuskruger4807
@casparuskruger4807 2 месяца назад
The inevitable flip-back,
@walter6574
@walter6574 Год назад
27:03 love it. Sam is quick
@Georgesbarsukov
@Georgesbarsukov Год назад
Richard Dawkins is so funny.
@skzombierain7536
@skzombierain7536 Месяц назад
The nuanced discussion of how 'intuition' is established (along with its pros and cons) is quite insightful and worthy of further consideration.
@lexicon111
@lexicon111 Год назад
Religious people know where they came from. The rest of us are still searching!
@bridgenorton537
@bridgenorton537 Год назад
Religious people have no idea. Usually they have a very poor understanding of their own religion. They say they know things, which they know they don’t know, which makes them liars and shills.
@wesknipp
@wesknipp 11 месяцев назад
Dang, that's a good comment. I'm with u on that because I want the real truth whether we figure it out before I die or not. To me, religion seems to be too simple of an answer. It has to be way more deep than that
@christopherwhittaker2620
@christopherwhittaker2620 Месяц назад
Peterson constantly talks over Matt, constantly interrupts Matt. He’s rude and petulant and makes himself look like the arrogant narcissist he is.
@Earthad23
@Earthad23 Год назад
Its rationality embedded in a dream.
@flamechick6
@flamechick6 9 месяцев назад
Westworld, we're in a dream
@jacobskovsbllknudsen5908
@jacobskovsbllknudsen5908 10 месяцев назад
I love Richard Dawkins, don't get me wrong, but one of his shortcomings seems to me, to be his "ignorance of ignorance" - he simply cannot imagine the depths of human stupidity and rigidity. If you're a person of average intelligence and up, and you grew up in a rural area, you know what I'm talking about. Dawkins is right in quoting Tony Blair ofcourse, but I do think we need a deeper and serious talk about, what we do about the people who cannot be educated. People locked into religious social circles are not just "believers of nonsense" they make sense of the world, thru the lens of religion. And you cannot tear that down and expect to replace it with a half assed story about big bangs and atoms and random mutations, you need to MAKE SENSE to stupid people, and religion, unfortunately, does that WAAAAY better than science ever has.
@sincereflowers3218
@sincereflowers3218 8 месяцев назад
I was raised a strict Methodist Christian, so I know all too well what it means to leave a faith you were raised in. Your entire family apparatus is centered around the religion. Grandma hears you are an atheist now and immediately questions your parents and you, acting like doubt is just sin in a mask. Most of your friends are church friends, you probably met your wife in church got married at that church, and are on at least a first name basis with the pastor. If you live in an insular community, the church is the cornerstone of the entire town, and they will sometimes help you when things get bad. It does not shock me that religious people are not prepared to give all this up, even conceptually. I don't have a single drop of sympathy or empathy for that plight, however. I went through it, so I know anyone can, as long as they steel themselves, and I do not have to believe in God's literal or metaphorical existence, or the utility of "his word" to think that the church can be a good thing for the community. It can also be a place where poor people go to be gaslit into putting their last $20 in the tithe's basket. This dichotomy should show more than anything that religion is too flawed to have "proceedeth from God" unless you think God today is too weak and stupid to be as active as he was in the Old testament.
@jacobskovsbllknudsen5908
@jacobskovsbllknudsen5908 8 месяцев назад
@@sincereflowers3218 Thanks for the answer friend! I hope you found your way to other communities based on love, solidarity and cooperation since. I do not envy your situation, the US is deep in bowels of ideological dissolution at this point in time. Christianity is possibly on the voting ballot soon, and it scares the crap out of me...
@celinejohnston3694
@celinejohnston3694 11 месяцев назад
The Real Three Wise men. 👍👍👍⚛️🇮🇪...
@mcfunthomas_mc
@mcfunthomas_mc 9 месяцев назад
😂😂😂 Not wrong there 😅
@phmayor
@phmayor 6 месяцев назад
Harris studied philosophy at Stanford, but did he study Kierkegaard? The No. 1 philosopher who studied faith? No he did not.
@Resmith18SR
@Resmith18SR Год назад
Obviously there will never be full agreement on Religion, Theology, Politics, Philosophy, Science and all the questions of why we are here. And it really doesn't matter if we agree or are correct or not, because we can agree to disagree and still attempt to lead a happy, meaningful life here on Earth. Perhaps our actions and experiences here are more important than our beliefs and ideologies.
@volker2714
@volker2714 Год назад
Yes, but our beliefs have direct impact on our actions. And if the beliefs are not based on rationality and our reality, but rather on some fantasy, and what certain individuals choose to believe for themselves, those actions (related to the belief) can only be pointless at best, and potentially be dangerous to the believer or others in his environment.
@Resmith18SR
@Resmith18SR Год назад
@@volker2714 There have been and will continue to be many so called rational people with rational beliefs who commit horrendous crimes and acts of violence. As long as your beliefs, rational or irrational don't cause any harm or injury to others, then that's fine.
@MrBadintentionss
@MrBadintentionss Год назад
@@Resmith18SR enter religion...for good people to do evil, religion is all you need.
@Resmith18SR
@Resmith18SR Год назад
@@MrBadintentionss And you seriously believe that non religious people don't ever commit horrendous evil acts?
@MrBadintentionss
@MrBadintentionss Год назад
@@Resmith18SR are you making excuses for those committed by people who let a book think for them? i said it takes religion for good people to do evil. that is the naivety of people who believe.
@dominic6055
@dominic6055 7 месяцев назад
There were always religions, but the main religion that lasted the longest and caused the most confusion and troubles is Christianity(and Islam followed later). If you know about astrology we're in the Age of Aquarius(I believe started in the 18th century) and it's correlated with Science,innovation and industrial revolutions, it's a highly intellectual sign and rational. Prior to that we had the Age of Pisces(christianity's symbol the fish) and it's about a 2000years cycle. So if you understand astrology you would understand more that religion was the main theme of the last 2 millenias, also the years are using Christ's birth as the reference. So yes, religion is in a great crisis mode, it started to lose in importance as with the creation of USA, with industrial revolutions and with scientifical discoveries that are changing people's psychology, more intellectually driven now, not romantic nor with foggy beliefs(Pisces and Neptune) where reality and mystic are intertwined
@bensonbrett30
@bensonbrett30 Год назад
Also, Sam did amazing in the Q and A. His observations on wealth inequality and society needing, more or less, a consciousness shift were astute.
@510tuber
@510tuber 11 месяцев назад
Pretty basic stuff. You can find much better thoughts in the r/socialism subreddit.
@DrDeuteron
@DrDeuteron 9 месяцев назад
@@510tuberwait. Reddit AND socialism? That combines two of the dumbest things known to Man.
@bensonbrett30
@bensonbrett30 3 месяца назад
@@DrDeuteron explain your position on socialism.
@makhloufboukhalfa7106
@makhloufboukhalfa7106 9 месяцев назад
Please dont be arrogant and think about the water near you and try to understand this qu'ranic verse : (Say, (Muhammed)"Have you considered: if your water was to become sunken [into the earth], then who could bring you flowing water?") 67:30
@butchr4850
@butchr4850 Год назад
Richard Dawkins & Christopher Hitchens 👍👍👍
@mysunnybird
@mysunnybird 10 месяцев назад
And you forgot SAM HARRIS, Who is wonderful too !!!
@paulgemme6056
@paulgemme6056 8 месяцев назад
Many people/souls in the days that Christ Jesus walked the earth couldn't even read but they were saved because one does not have to be educated in order to have faith and be saved - born again, born of the Spirit (Holy Spirit), born from above. No religion needed. Just faith, faith plus nothing. The blood of Christ Jesus is cost for our redemption and Jesus paid it all in full. It is finished! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. All have sinned. If a man says he has never done wrong/sinned he is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
@BrentEskola
@BrentEskola Год назад
Science is a hard way to think. It's mysterious to probably most people. Even to be an armchair scientist is challenging to me sometimes.
@ManDuderGuy
@ManDuderGuy Год назад
The modern rational approach is still very new, you could even call it unnatural. Heck, literacy wasnt common until perhaps 150 years ago. This is why I think supernaturalism is going to be with us indefinitely. I just hope it will soften and reform as it has in recent centuries.
@opinion3742
@opinion3742 Год назад
@@ManDuderGuy Who doesn't think they are a rational being?
@ManDuderGuy
@ManDuderGuy Год назад
@@opinion3742 I probably should have said "evidence-based/empirical". Nearly everyone thinks of themselves as "the good guy" or "justified", but that doesn't make it so. Similar situation here.
@missypead2293
@missypead2293 10 месяцев назад
Science once said eugenics was fact. Nazis sciencetice said they had scientific facts to back up their calms to be true.
@missypead2293
@missypead2293 10 месяцев назад
Really glad Richard Dawkins is debunking the gender theory wokeness BS. Hopefully, he isn't done. His voice is really needed in the world right now. The gender sex cult, is beyond BS and has become like pedemimic. No matter you believe stay away from Matt dillahunty and Aron ra. They are part of a religion basically. Religion doesn't necessarily have to do with believing in God.
@sanekabc
@sanekabc 2 месяца назад
There is a reason science gets a bad rap when it does. It is conflated with material reductionism, which is not a scientific proposition but is itself a belief. The term science relates primarily to the scientific method. Beyond that, it is not equipped to enter discussions as it pertains to the domain of meaning.
@dark1021
@dark1021 Год назад
The more we understand about ourselves and reality the less we have to use “the god excuse”. Just think, people used to sacrifice children in the name of religion because they thought it would make it rain. I wonder if anyone still believes that.
@7uis7ara
@7uis7ara Год назад
Do you mean abort!on? Because that is a child's sacrifice too.
@SydBodeker
@SydBodeker Год назад
@@7uis7ara lmao no tf it's not 😂
@7uis7ara
@7uis7ara Год назад
@@SydBodekeryou've never read the satanist doctrines, right?
@dark1021
@dark1021 Год назад
@@7uis7ara I do not mean abortion, but abortion is just as evil.
@7uis7ara
@7uis7ara Год назад
@@dark1021 Yes. I don't know if you've noticed this pattern.The sacrificial ritual always has meant for something bigger than the child, in the name of the "good" of the tribe, the family, the city, etc. The god-ification of the earth is also a justification for child sacrifice; we give it to earth what it belongs to her, for the earth's own "well being", because she needs or wants it. That's happening right now my friend, and it does not matter if you are theist or atheist, that pattern is still there, because that is their re-ligion, that's their re-linking to something greater than themselves, for the "Pachamama", you know. The way I understand it now, is that there is no way of escaping the re-ligion to something or the adoration to a god or multiple gods. Is a pattern, is a way of being. The ancient Greeks thought that angriness itself was a god that possessed you or a virtue like wisdom was a goddess that we were supposed to follow. In a sense, those things "live" outside our lives and are bigger than ourselves. I think that Truth itself is a God. Now, the question is: what is a God? What did the ancients mean when they talked about religion? We have to go to the roots of every question with curiosity and humbleness. That's the way of life too.
@christophorfaust2457
@christophorfaust2457 8 месяцев назад
The real issue here, is what role does god assume in religion. I think that JP makes the case that even absent a god, religion offers the framework for fundamental truths to be absorbed by the masses, and enhance, collectively, all of our lives. As someone who wandered alone with the questions of god/no god, for the vast majority of my life, it is comforting to learn that a modern intellectual was/is able to to look beyond the mystical and find value. I don’t believe in God, but I live my life as though he were real! Let us move past the ugly lies we were told as a children, the authoritarian and zealotry of sociopaths and embrace the fact that believing in god, keeps the mentally weak driving on the right side of the road. While Sam Harris may not need a god, nor a religious framework to function as a productive human being, society surely does! For what it’s worth???
@tommy32408
@tommy32408 Год назад
These guys almost make me think they believe what their saying...
@Resmith18SR
@Resmith18SR Год назад
Curious as to what specifically makes you believe that they don't actually believe what they're saying?
@BennyTwennyGrand
@BennyTwennyGrand Год назад
This must be your first time hearing from these guys.
@Resmith18SR
@Resmith18SR Год назад
@@BennyTwennyGrand This is your first Rodeo isn't it Ben?
@tommy32408
@tommy32408 Год назад
No, I've heard them before, but can only take small doses. @@BennyTwennyGrand
@tommy32408
@tommy32408 Год назад
To far fetched. They do have good imaginations. @@Resmith18SR
@brandonfoor5147
@brandonfoor5147 9 месяцев назад
I think after some time. Sam Harris would be a wonderful public servant. Maybe not president but def a public leader.
@constructivecritique5191
@constructivecritique5191 Год назад
The three headless horsemen ride in their favorite death circle! Again!
@aimeekeel
@aimeekeel 9 месяцев назад
28:38 I would argue, that morality is actually a holdover from animal populations. Morality is necessary for survival of the species i.e. don’t kill off other members of your species, you don’t take food from other members of your species, etc. Many species in the animal kingdom have very elaborate hierarchies, and very specific laws that govern each tear of that hierarchy. I would say that morality is a holdover of that instinct to survive. Slowly, but surely we rode each of those, and now we’re at a point where we are actually evolving away from survivability. We aren’t so worried with procreating, we aren’t so worried with our species surviving, people have become extremely selfish. Even though I’m an atheist, I do believe that religion still serves a purpose in this world to guide people who aren’t advanced enough to say this is for the survival of my species without their being a theoretical overlord in space keeping track to make sure you’re doing that.
@Andrea-zm1nl
@Andrea-zm1nl Год назад
Richard Dawkins is a personal hero of mine. Sam Harris is amazing as well. And other than the fact that Matt thinks men masquerading as women are women, I have mad respect for what he says as well. Tyvvm for all of the amazing content you provide us!
@Chriscraft50
@Chriscraft50 Год назад
I believe if you agree with everything someone says, you stopped thinking. Matt is a humanist. I understand why he has that particular stance. I like the fact Matt is consistent. 🙂
@davidspencer343
@davidspencer343 Год назад
I don't understand transgender at all. But who cares. What a boring topic. You Wana wear a dress and change your name? Sounds good to me go for it. Matt's career has 99.99% nothing to do with trans issues. Weird hang up
@Andrea-zm1nl
@Andrea-zm1nl Год назад
@@davidspencer343 not a hang up. Just noting that it's the only thing I've ever heard Matt speak on where I completely disagree. I very much respect him and have enjoyed everything I've seen him speak in.
@Andrea-zm1nl
@Andrea-zm1nl Год назад
@@Chriscraft50 I too respect his consistent views and him as a person. I am very glad to not agree with everything anyone says. And appreciative of the people putting out content like this. 🙂
@PiTBuLLeD
@PiTBuLLeD Год назад
​@@davidspencer343 I agree with Matt on most things as well. Even with the idea that transgender should have their rights and be called whatever makes them happy. I have no issue with any of it. With one glaring exception. During his debate with Dinesh, Matt was attempting to make the point that transgender women should be able to use the womens restroom. As a single father to a 5 year old girl I couldn't disagree any more on a subject than I do with this.
@prestonbacchus4204
@prestonbacchus4204 8 месяцев назад
Both the religious and the atheist are defining their own beliefs by something they call "God" or "god". No reasonable person could know what they are claiming unless and until they offer a specific definition and use for the supremely ambiguous word they are using.
@JohnS1704
@JohnS1704 Год назад
Take it this was before Dillahunty decided Dawkins was no longer his "good friend" over the Prof's views on Trans issues and Dillahunty had got himself a new "girlfriend".
@KUYABUKNOY
@KUYABUKNOY 11 месяцев назад
OUR LIVES IN DS EARTH IS SO SHORT....FOCUS ON HAPPINESS..PEACEFULNESS...SET ASIDE THE MYSTERY OF EVERTHING...THEY R UN ANSWERABLE DS TYM AND WASTE OF TYM..ENJOY THIS WORLD AS POSSIBLE WE CAN...
@MichaelPlatson
@MichaelPlatson Год назад
The amount of smug bullshit coming out of Sam and Matt is actually quite staggering. At least Dawkins has the sense to be polite and diplomatic about it.
@tournaline3448
@tournaline3448 Год назад
Sam Harris still hasn’t mastered the art of speaking succinctly. Takes him 15 minutes to explain something that could be put into a couple of sentences.
@epicofatrahasis3775
@epicofatrahasis3775 Год назад
​@@tournaline3448 You mean like Jordan Peterson?
@tournaline3448
@tournaline3448 Год назад
@@epicofatrahasis3775 I don’t think Jordan Peterson made an appearance in this video.
@imnotanalien7839
@imnotanalien7839 Год назад
Even Marx noted atheism is transitory…. there are always gods and religion. The Christian religion is one of the very few that allows the individual the freedom to say yes or no. And one of the few that don’t involve human sacrifice. One of the few that doesn’t target other’s…and execute or turn them into slaves. And although Sam Harris says the Christian God accepts slavery, God says in 1Samuel8:17 the last Judge) if the people choose men as kings… those kings turn their people into slaves. Since every Christian is given the CHOICE… that includes bad choices.. but then they have to face the consequences of those choices. God never says slavery is an important asset that every person should acknowledge and promote! Slavery was eliminated under Christianity. (As much as possible, since we are talking about humans).
@michelangelope830
@michelangelope830 Год назад
The debate "atheism or religion", like "evolution or creation", is fallacious because the evolution of the species supports the idea that an eternal intelligence superior to oneself created the universe with a plan, order, design, organization. Atheists deceived you making you believe the idea of God is fantasy or dogma of faith that belongs to religion. Would you understand you are deceived if i explain a deception? The greatest knowledge of all time, that is going unnoticed, censored and not understood, is atheism is a logical fallacy that assumes God is the religious idea of the creator of the creation to conclude wrongly no creator exists because a particular idea of God doesn’t exist. To understand atheism is a logical fallacy you have to understand why the most emblematic remark of atheism is "who created god?", with the intelligent creator of the universe written in lower case. To highlight how much atheists are interested in "evidence" i say atheists wouldn't be able to prove their own existence to themselves if the logical conclusion is that the creation needs the creator and lose their children believing without questions asked that gambling causes a brain disease, and when they are told they don't care. Would you memorize and understand the atheist logical fallacy to preserve knowledge useful for future generations that would understand I am a good person among bad people? I am a poet that writes prose to be understood better, all my work is poetry. To end the war in Ukraine the discovery that atheism is a logical fallacy has to be news. I can only speak in a human language to be understood.
@oscarmudd6579
@oscarmudd6579 Год назад
Things don't become true by virtue of a religious nut having said them.
@donnyh3497
@donnyh3497 Год назад
That's an impressively convoluted pile of nonsense that you wrote there! I'm not convinced that you know what fallacy means and if someone can't write a paragraph that others can easily understand then you probably shouldn't be writing at all until you learn. What a display of ignorance 😅
@mtoshamtosha
@mtoshamtosha Год назад
Come again?
@michelangelope830
@michelangelope830 Год назад
@@donnyh3497 I am a psychologist and I would like you to participate in an experiment. I offer money for your collaboration. It is important that I am understood and replied to what I say, instead of saying whatever to have the last word. I want you to imagine you read this loving poem to a prisoner waiting on death row. I am a poet that writes prose to be understood better. All my work is poetry. I need to talk to you please, it is important and urgent because lives would be saved with my knowledge. What could you lose listening to new ideas or understandings of reality? I know how to save your life with knowledge and you only have to understand the atheist logical fallacy. The greatest information of all time is atheism is a logical fallacy that assumes God is the religious idea of the creator of the creation to conclude wrongly no creator exists because a particular idea of God doesn’t exist. The atheist logical fallacy would test your IQ and honesty and the error in reasoning is easy to understand being honest and impossible lying to oneself. You may wonder what influence could possibly have the discovery that atheism and religion are lies and I promise you that the death penalty, that religious people are fond of, would end the moment humanity understand we are literally God, the metaphysical entity that the kalam cosmological argument talks about. If God is unarguably the most important and talked about idea that forms all our psychology, behavior and understanding of reality and after fortunes of public money squandered on education humanity don't know God is the intelligent creator of the universe and believe the idea of God is fantasy or dogma of faith that belongs to religion is because the cult deceived you manipulating the information with disastrous consequences. Would you memorize and understand the atheist logical fallacy to keep the knowledge safe? Would you help me? To rest in peace eternally I need future generations to know the atheist logical fallacy and they would understand. I hope for God's sake I am understood.
@michelangelope830
@michelangelope830 Год назад
@@mtoshamtosha I am a psychologist and I would like you to participate in an experiment. I offer money for your collaboration. It is important that I am understood and replied to what I say, instead of saying whatever to have the last word. I want you to imagine you read this loving poem to a prisoner waiting on death row. I am a poet that writes prose to be understood better. All my work is poetry. I need to talk to you please, it is important and urgent because lives would be saved with my knowledge. What could you lose listening to new ideas or understandings of reality? I know how to save your life with knowledge and you only have to understand the atheist logical fallacy. The greatest information of all time is atheism is a logical fallacy that assumes God is the religious idea of the creator of the creation to conclude wrongly no creator exists because a particular idea of God doesn’t exist. The atheist logical fallacy would test your IQ and honesty and the error in reasoning is easy to understand being honest and impossible lying to oneself. You may wonder what influence could possibly have the discovery that atheism and religion are lies and I promise you that the death penalty, that religious people are fond of, would end the moment humanity understand we are literally God, the metaphysical entity that the kalam cosmological argument talks about. If God is unarguably the most important and talked about idea that forms all our psychology, behavior and understanding of reality and after fortunes of public money squandered on education humanity don't know God is the intelligent creator of the universe and believe the idea of God is fantasy or dogma of faith that belongs to religion is because the cult deceived you manipulating the information with disastrous consequences. Would you memorize and understand the atheist logical fallacy to keep the knowledge safe? Would you help me? To rest in peace eternally I need future generations to know the atheist logical fallacy and they would understand. I hope for God's sake I am understood.
@geoffr4018
@geoffr4018 Год назад
Dawkins , Dillahunty and the worlds biggest closet christian The next pope Harris
@JonathanvanZuijlekom
@JonathanvanZuijlekom Год назад
“The fool has said in his heart, 'There is no God'” (Psalm 14:1)
@rodomolina7995
@rodomolina7995 Год назад
Ad hominem
@mtoshamtosha
@mtoshamtosha Год назад
God allegedly hates it when people think for themselves, wonder why?
@donnyh3497
@donnyh3497 Год назад
My fairytale says that if you don't believe it then you are dumb!😂 Brilliant. How are you people not embarrassed by your own ignorance?
@Resmith18SR
@Resmith18SR Год назад
​@@mtoshamtoshaI'm a Pantheist like Einstein and I think for myself just like he did.
@rodomolina7995
@rodomolina7995 Год назад
@@Resmith18SR He meant the abrahamic god
@jIMwILLIAMS-im7kk
@jIMwILLIAMS-im7kk 8 месяцев назад
Which religion is more illogical. The lucky rabbits foot guide to the universe version or the one based on intlectual intents proven abilties to set up and manipulate perematers to achieve logical discernable functionality? As far as Dawkins musings on how a living cell simply for no reason coalesced into an information driven self replicating factory he hasn't a clue how to rationalize such a,concept by way of his random blind luck faith. Yet he pretends he is 100% convinced dumb non intentional luck was the catalyst. How un scientific aka illogical can he be...
@iamnotgroot3693
@iamnotgroot3693 Год назад
I get so tired of Sam Harris word salad.
@Pangburn
@Pangburn Год назад
Can you point to some specific word salad that you heard from Sam in the video? Curious.
@Chriscraft50
@Chriscraft50 Год назад
You must not listen to Jordan Peterson? At least Harris makes a point, even if you think it's a bit "wordy." 🙂
@donnyh3497
@donnyh3497 Год назад
​@@Chriscraft50True. Peterson tosses a mean word salad but I always understand what Harris is saying. Maybe groot just has an elementary vocabulary 🤔
@Guys_Love_Each_Other
@Guys_Love_Each_Other Год назад
and i get tired of people like you who refuse to see the truth and just believe in some fairytale from the middle ages. you're right, sam harris can be tough on certain subjects, but at least he's not out there spreading lies and misinformation like theists are.
@aimeekeel
@aimeekeel 9 месяцев назад
26:54 being a biochemist for many decades. Now, I find it quite silly to assume that no other creatures on this entire planet have consciousness. I don’t feel like you could be a scientist, and actually believe that. to me, the thought, that only humans have consciousness, is a deeply religious pretext, separating man in the Bible from animals.
@greengateacreshomestead4324
so you know how the complex things came to be but fail on how the simple things came to be. To put it in another word, you don't know what 1 + 1 is but you know how to solve complex math problems., and you want me to believe you. So as far as the pastor, well maybe he was just pulling your leg, much like the banana man :).
@therealal1713
@therealal1713 10 месяцев назад
Matt is seriously not an intellectual. I can see why people like william lane Craig don't debate people like Matt who haven't gone through rigorous academic training.
@davidvaughan3771
@davidvaughan3771 Год назад
I'm happy we have Dillahunty but maybe not host these guys, he waisted 30 + on some idiot hitting sticks and rocks together to get life.. geez...it doesn't even require a response
@livestrong1976
@livestrong1976 9 месяцев назад
I do love listening to these guys, however I don't think that they are the nail in the coffin guys whatsoever. I honestly think that we humans put too much faith in what they "think" is true. I do think we humans are just storytellers, we can only explain what makes sense to us, although if a person can speak their truth with a little more assurance, people tend to follow that person. Not talking negative about any of those guys on stage, I wouldn't ever, nor could I ever win an argument with any one of them, but that doesn't make one wrong. At the end of the day does it really matter what one believes, take for instance "free will" Did by hearing that we do or don't have free will do anything for us in the very moment that we heard it? My heart is still beating the same, later I'm going to be tired and I'm going to go to bed. I'm just not sure it really matters (everyone is experiencing life as we know it) nobody is superior to anyone, we just think that we are by the title we give ourselves or by what other's have given us. I wished I would have been an animal or something other than a human at times, we humans make life so complicated. But on the other side of that, if we didn't communicate how we do, what else would we be talking about.
@david77james
@david77james 11 месяцев назад
A theory is fine, Mr. Dawkins, but trash that is posed "as a theory" does NOT equate with a valid theory.
@exploittheworld
@exploittheworld 9 месяцев назад
It seems apparent that these three individuals have been plagued by a distorted view of truth, thus they spend much of their time finding ways to disprove something that was inaccurate from the beginning. If they had known the truth, they would most likely realize how futile their endeavors are.
@krisbest6405
@krisbest6405 10 месяцев назад
The height of man has grown. Hair is changing as well. Noone on earth "knows" the gods that have been invented . As a girl child l was annoyed a zipper style birth wasn,t a good idea, even a kangeroo got it right. Was yeshua a magician?
@DUDEBroHey
@DUDEBroHey 8 месяцев назад
Can we really call Sam Harris an atheist when he carries his own odd version Zionism? It kinda seems like he's secretly religiously Jewish.
@reflexoesarteecultura
@reflexoesarteecultura 8 месяцев назад
I think Sam and Dawkins believe in all those things that they stand for. but Dillahunty seem to me more like a comedian. he barely says anything other than sarcasm. I don't think he is on a level that the other two. He seems more like a stand up comedian.
@MS-fg8qo
@MS-fg8qo 10 месяцев назад
Dawkins is about to be replaced by other speakers because of old age. Natural selection... But at least he could transmit a few of his memes.
@Secretname951
@Secretname951 11 месяцев назад
3 atheists debating religion? Wow I wonder what their conclusions will be 😂😂😢😢😢
@Dawahdude0
@Dawahdude0 8 месяцев назад
ISLAM Christianity and Judaism will remain until the day of Judgement More than half of the world population believe in The God of Abraham P. This the only solid proof for the existence of The God.
@InitialFailure
@InitialFailure 10 месяцев назад
Awesome, now ask the same three: "What is a woman?" and watch how quickly science gets disregarded by at least two of them.
@Cpt.McMorpheus
@Cpt.McMorpheus Год назад
Why does everybody want to continue to talk about what people believe, and nobody wants to talk about what people actually do?
@davidspencer343
@davidspencer343 Год назад
Because beleifs inform actions And people vote. Religion in politics is a problem, and others' beliefs directly influence my life.
@Resmith18SR
@Resmith18SR Год назад
​@@davidspencer343Religious beliefs and ideas are dangerous dogma like any ideas or beliefs that subscribe to the view that they possess the absolute, unchanging truth and that everyone else is either wrong, incorrect, or morally inferior.
@tuckerbugeater
@tuckerbugeater Год назад
Belief is the means of control whether it be religious or irreligious
@Cpt.McMorpheus
@Cpt.McMorpheus Год назад
Abracadabra, watch that white cloth
@Resmith18SR
@Resmith18SR Год назад
@@tuckerbugeater And everyone in the world has beliefs and certain beliefs so what's your point?
@nimagougol8781
@nimagougol8781 8 месяцев назад
If you can’t see God, you can’t see religion alive, the former is greater.
@mikew3788
@mikew3788 8 месяцев назад
a “debate” on atheism vs religion….with three atheist?
@LeonardoLazarteAMVcreator
@LeonardoLazarteAMVcreator 6 месяцев назад
It is indeed intriguing how: Exactly what ~in the existence of an intelligent force of creation who created human beings at its image~ would hypothetically be "Sacred", in the sense that they would be the direct effect of something above this plane... Are precisely the things that are outside of our comprehension. _What guides the clearly not random process of evolution. _What guides the complex processes that form organisms _What started life _what formed the conditions which in turn started the universe _what is this sense of identity we experience as consciousness _why does the universe seem to be so perfectly tuned Every hole that science leaves open happens to perfectly match with what in the existence of "God" would be direct effect of its creative power. The only chance I see for this to be the case without an impressibly strong pointing to a god, would be the near infinite universes theory. In which although the mistery of the beginning would still remain, at least the fine tuning and complexity can be dealt with by just all being pure randomness in a near infinite set of probabilities (But still entirely rational) But as I understand, it is more of an hypothesis than anything else.
@justgivemethetruth
@justgivemethetruth 8 месяцев назад
In another video Dawkins talks about breaking the cycle of parent to child religion, but also pretty much everything he says is to him and his fans supposed based on science and data and logic. My question would be what is the real concrete scientific basis to destroy religion. Most of you guys on this channel rally against Communism in every video posted, but wasn't the first social engineering tenets of what was pointed at as communism to outlaw religion? So is that a plus on the side of communism or a contradiction? Also, what about military families, or police families or the family businesses where parents indoctrinate children into those societies? Is there not some kind of parallel there that ends up pointing to the problem with human corruption (familial) in almost anything that humans do? Why not outsource children's upbringing to communes, or kibbutzes as they do in Israel, and if so is that not also some form or aspect of communism. And finally, what is communism? We point to Russia, China, Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea, etc as communist such that any country we in the West call communist is merely a proxy insult for our stated enemies? And did not Marx and Engels say that communism would theoretically occur at some point in the future in such time as the socio-economic system would be so fair and inclusive that the state would just wither away? I'd love to hear some answers to these questions, because without a clear understanding of all the rammification of what Dawkins says it seems like he is just a hired gun to propagandize our system just as he says religion brainwashes children as they grow up and become or would become aware?
@yacobus2206
@yacobus2206 Год назад
The Christian perspective was implicit in the founding documents of America. The revelatory authority of God's word is in direct competition with the "Revelation of truth" of human origin that always creates a vertical hierarchy of authoritarian rule. Always. The Human revelatory authority becomes a god among men. If you read the sappy odes written to these human gods it indeed was worship. I would rather have been with Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego in the fiery furnace than listen to such obsequious bilge. Within the authoritarian structure, the most sociopathic monster reaches the top: Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, Che Guevara, and Hitler. Yes, Hitler belongs to the same class of monsters that climbed to the top of a totalitarian system. The variations of ideologies that built the totalitarian system are irrelevant because it ends up in the same place: sociopathic indulgence of murdering masses of people.
@Resmith18SR
@Resmith18SR Год назад
The belief that human morality is not merely just a matter of subjective opinion and instead is based on Natural Law and is objective. The criminal justice system is based on the fact that laws are not just a matter of difference of opinion and instead based objectively in Natural Law. Murder, rape, genocide, are not considered evil and punished just based on agreement and public opinion.
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