Is Scott Hahn a "Catholic fundamentalist"? 

Dr. Hahn is God’s gift to the Catholic Church. Period.

From what I remember from Rome Sweet Home, things "clicked" (for lack of a better word) for Dr. Hahn at Mass, not in a library. It was at Mass where everything came together for him.

Just a catholic stopping bye watching trent disassemble another protestant thinking of the catholic church, and scott hahn. I've been away from church for 20 years. Came back and have read dr. Hahn and trent horn books, and have ignited my love for our Catholic faith!!

Either Martin never Read Dr. Hahn's conversion story, or he's a liar. Dr. Hahn admits to being challenged and inspired by his students on his journey home. He also humbly sat in the back of the church during daily mass and sought council from Monsignor Brukewitz. A prideful fundamentalist ? I think not. I am a blue collar catholic with a very small you tube channel. Dr. Hahn was humble enough to come on my show and let me ask him any question I wanted. He gave us Scholarly insight in language every blue collar catholic could understand. Trent thanks for having the back of our big brother Scott.

Dr. Hahn is a brilliant man…Martin needs to check and jealousy his pride when writing. I am thankful for Dr. Hahn’s conservative Catholic teaching.

Scott Hahn’s Reasons to Believe is what helped me to answer my questions of faith and accept the teaching authority of the Catholic Church. This directly lead to my reversion.

Can't wait to listen. Trent has been knocking it out of the park with the longer form shows recently

The “leading to anti-semitism” critique of Hahn’s interpretation of Babylon being Jerusalem in Revelation is the classic case of liberal virtue signaling. Just a poor critique and he should honestly be ashamed of himself for willing to almost defame Hahn’s character over him gaining a couple friends in academia off of that remark.

Do you think Martin had the testicular fortitude to ask Scott Hahn for a comment during his entire time writing his "dissertation"?

Dr. Hahn is one of the biggest influences on my conversion from a Baptist pastor to Catholicism

I am Orthodox and really appreciate Scott Hahn - he is not a fundamentalist.

Scott hanh is brilliant.

19:45 - “Justin Martyr, who he later calls, Martyr. It’s not his last name” 😂 This book is an embarrassment

Is it appropriate this guys name is Martin?🤔

I'm sure Scott Hahn, like in many of his speeches, will say, "What a grace." Instead of defaming Hahn's reputation, this book will drive its reader to find what Hahn actually writes in his books.

Fundamentalist can also mean remaining faithful to the fundamentals of the faith which many modern scholars fail to do.

Glad you made this video, Trent. I've only just begun watching, but I hope Dr. Hahn sees it (and sees comments here), because I imagine that as a humble man, he might reasonably ask himself to consider how much a critique of himself is true (and try to see ways that it may be). And I just want to say one thing to Dr. Hahn (I guess a bit off-topic) but by way of encouragement in contrast to this dissertation-writer's critique: I'm a convert to Catholicism, and while 'researching' my own way towards the Catholic Church, I came across one of his interviews on the Journey Home channel, and was moved by it. I just want to say 'thank-you' to him for his earnest, positive approach, which has only ever encouraged me more towards embracing the fullness of Catholicism, and never into some odd offshoot. And to you as an apologist: thank you for your work. There are many members of the body, and the gift you offer others by presenting persuasive reasons for belief, is a treasure. May God bless your continued work.

I grew up with people who were fundamentalists and Scott Hahn is definitely not one of them.

What is wrong with making converts? Even if it is Scott Hahn's intentions to convert people to Catholicism, what is wrong with that? Please read James 5:19 "My friend if any of you wander away from the truth and another one brings him back again...will save that sinners soul from death and bring about forgiveness of many sins" On Pentecost Day, Peter harvested 3000 converts into the Church.

Scott Hahn is a CATHOLIC - not an "American Catholic", and certainly not an "American Pope"! My friend from the Dominican Republic said they love Scott Hahn down there! She asked me if I'd ever heard of Dr. Hahn lol!

Update while watching video: Wait. This individual thinks apologetics is incompatible with Catholicism? That is frustrating to me as a convert to Catholicism for whom apologetics was helpful. Especially because many years prior to hearing my first 'good' answer from a Catholic, I actually reached out to a Catholic and received a bad answer, that left me walking away sad that there was no way Catholicism could be true (because I was being told so authoritatively something that seemed incoherent, and the speaker seemed to have no interest/ability in helping me to understand how the Church's teaching _wasn't_ incoherent). If I had encountered only Catholics who refused to engage in apologetics, who knows if I ever could have received the answers to my questions, to overcome the barriers between me and joining the Church. I am very thankful that I did. God bless good apologists, and if y'all ever feel frustrated by the critiques you receive, please try to remember those of us who need you because unless you say it, we won't hear it. Don't just 'know' something internally and not tell us. Help us to understand things better too, when you can. And God bless you.

Not sure how the University of Dayton allowed this for a PhD. That said, more power to free exercise of scholastic study and exchange. PS: Scott Hahn has far and away allowed the Catholic brain to dive deep into a treasure trove of Catholic tradition. Also PS: would purchase your published 6000 word critique of the critique.

Hey Trent, you mentioned Jack Chick in a video a couple weeks back. I'd love to see you do a video on some of his "work", it's often so inflammatory and bad faith that it's genuinely entertaining

Was directed by Mike Winger to this channel. To understand the arguments.

Other book reviews, for books that might be easily consumable by the public, would be really cool to see. Again, thanks for your continued good work!

You know that you are doing something right when people start writing PhD dissertations about you.

I really admire how much thought and time you are willing to give in defense of Hahn's work. I would be tempted to roll my eyes and dismiss the level of incompetence that this dissertation seems to demonstrate. 😬

I have my doubts that Martin actually read the all Dr. Hahn's work from cover to cover. He hangs his argument on the suspicion of certainty in favor of social construct of probabilities and spectrum of possibility. Certainty presenting as a form of pride intellectually. That he received his PhD with material from this book, is telling of his peer review board.

I’m no academic, but this Martin guy is a mess. Also, The Lamb’s Supper changed my Catholic life.

I loved reading Dr. Hahn's Father Who Keeps His Promises! Very helpful resource.

Apparently, Dr Martin condemns Augustine for tolle-ing and lege-ing.

A fundamentalist doesn't want to tolerate different opinions or perspectives for the simple fact that they just exist alongside his/hers, a fundamentalist wants to stamp out opposition or different ways of thinking in whatever means necessary just to get rid of disagreements. I would say fundamentalism in a general sense is equivalent to radicalism, in which Scott Hahn is of course not a fundamentalist, but a man with strong Catholic principles in all his limits.

Wonderful work Trent!

Dr Hahn has admitted the greatest fault of all: that he actively turned people away from Christ’s Church before he came to realize it was Christ’s Church. He is also generally self-deprecating in his talks.

Speaking of books, I bought one of yours, its brilliant! Thanks so much Trent.

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Also, I am not Catholic (I work as a youth pastor at a Baptist Church), but I know that John 6 is literal. Now you have met one!

It seems he basically equates inerrantist with literalist-only interpretation, so anyone who believes that scripture is inerrant, Martin reads literalism and therefore fundamentalism. That seems to be a sophomoric blunder to me.

Way, way back, many years ago in the baby days of the internet, I came across cassette tapes of Scott Hahn and after listening to them I wanted to know more about this incredible Bible scholar. So I hopped on to this sleek new google website, a thing they called a search engine, and typed in his name. Back in those days of the internet, many many many people were running their own personally built websites. It was the days of bad font choices, bad color combinations, bad layout designs. One such website came up in the search results. It was nothing less than a full blown take down written by a protestant pastor listing all the ways Scott Hahn was a fraud and Satan's minion. Even as a young thinker the logical holes were glaringly obvious. One that I can remember, he asked how can a person only in his 30s write a biography. What kind of hubris makes Hahn think people want to read the life store of someone who hasn't lived life yet. He should learn some humility. But obviously a biography is different than a conversion story and lots of people were interested. The rest of the screed was just more like that. It would be fascinating to find it again. But anyway, all that to say, Scott Hahn has been drawing passionate detractors from his very earliest days and they just don't seem to have anywhere near the quality scholarship he does.

I am certain that you did a great job on this!

Man. Anyone would be super intimidated if Trent to review your dissertation. Consequently, as Trent's follower, we should raise the bar in excellence. We need Trentlike here in our country. Praying il see it in my lifetime.

Dr Hahn is an extraordinary theologian and he is a special gift to the Church and the way (like Trent said) that his books are so readable by ordinary lay Catholics is great.

Thanks much for this video.

Excellent. Thank you Trent.

It doesn’t matter what he is, his works brought me back to the church that Christ founded. I love him too much.

I think a better critique might have been to examine several of Hahn’s scholarly level works with their popular book counterparts.

Thank you for this. While I have not read much from Dr Hahn, I have listened to many talks and interviews he has given. I do not recognize him in the caricurature that this book seems to portray.

I get the sense that Martin’s thesis started out as an idea, and then as he did more research he realized it doesn’t work, but only when it was too late. So he filled his dissertation with lots of summary to show that he knows his philosophy and theology, and then made a flashy criticism against Hahn because he knew it would get clicks.

Love ya both! Carry on gentlemen!

4:43 I never knew that. Thank you for telling me!

26:00 You are being waaaaay too nice to Martin because him omitting Hahn's acknowledgement of the wide range of opinions is malicious dirty pool.

Hey Trent, do an episode explaining the differences of al the English bible translations!

One way to bypass ads. Scroll video to end, then replay. If that doesn't work, try it again. You should be able to watch it without interruption of irrelevant ads. PS: my apologies for doubled comments.

Hi Trent! I'm still discerning whether I should be a Catholic or not, but nevertheless, I love what you are doing and I hope you keep continuing with your videos! Also just a request, you've gone against multiple types of beliefs such as atheist apologetics and also protestant Apologetics and because of that you're videos are really interesting haha. So may I ask are you going to try and go against *Jewish apologetics* and *Muslim apologetics* ? Thanks in advance and God bless! : D

I agree with your review overall, but to get “nit picky”, the fact that we didn’t know about the priest scandal until after society began to degrade does not mean that those actions had no impact. The scandal is worth noting precisely because it also is an evil bastardization of God’s plan for our sexuality. Dr. Hahn, who I admire, should have discussed or tangentially explored this as well. Again, great critique! I learned some things today that helped me think about how to read critically.

So is fundamentalist the new term for "not a heritic?"

Hi Trent, have you written anything regarding Markan prioririty? I have read a very interesting book recently by Bernard Orchard arguing for the priority of Matthew. Are you aware of his work and the recent scholarly work in this regard? Markan priority has its issues and is not unassailable

Dr. Scott Hahn is a gem.

Trent Horn DESTROYS Sean Swain Martin

As much as the author of this doctoral thesis deserves criticism for such a poor work, the supervisor of his doctoral thesis and the faculty should be named and questioned in terms of their standards.

These days, i think being a "fundamentalist" is a great badge of honour.

These are not just issues of being 'liberal' or conservative. At their core, they are about fundamental aspects of God and his relationship with his creation-- our ability to trust our Lord and to put His will above our will. Great job and keep up the good work.

One of the main things I keep hearing over and over in this excellent critique, is a tension between actual Catholic teaching, and the post conciliar Vatican II liberalism. Make no mistake, 2000 years of Church teaching trumps the radical coup that has plagued us for a few decades.

RU-vid is including too many ads in the middle of the videos. It used to be only in the beginning of the videos. I cannot go more than 2 or 3 minutes without an interruption… it is annoying!

Sean Swain retweets Jimmy Martin... Say no more.

“It’s interesting that Scott Hahn used the RSV-2CE translation instead of the NAB.” Hmm, yeah that is weird. Why would Scott Hahn, one of the guys behind the Ignatius Catholic Study Bible series which uses the RSV-2CE translation be using the RSV-2CE translation to cite scripture? It can’t be that he values it as a formal equivalence translation, it must be something more manipulative and sinister!

Martin is obviously a complete relativist, because his definition of fundamentalism would apply to the magisterium of the Church, including basic definitions of the faith such as the Apostles' Creed, the Nicene Creed and the Chalcedonian definition. Relativists like to think they are the brave, pioneering, free spirits seeking truth fearlessly, while the orthodox cower in their trenches of tradition.

One of my problems with apologetics as its practiced currently is this: it seems to me that most apologists use arguments in a manipulator way. The apologists usually knows the weaknesses or limitations of the arguments deployed but these are usually concealed providing that the argument convinces. Apologetics, in other words, is often about 'winning'. What is aimed at is not so much truth as the capacity to get someone to believe what you do.

As a graduate theology student at Franciscan University, as well as someone who had Dr. Hahn participate in their conversion without knowing it… I thank God every day he left the Protestant religion and is standing for the one true faith of Jesus Christ. Honestly my only criticism of Dr. Hahn, and it’s barely a mild one at that, is I think it’s about time he gets into the discussion about the traditional Catholic mass vs. the Novus Ordo. With his in-depth level of scholarship, I know that he knows the diabolical history of its creation and that it was a move towards Protestantism by those attempting to destroy the Church. One day he is going to have to speak up about it even though he’s desperately trying to avoid it. God bless him and his family, they are a force for good. 🙏🏼

this pueril criticism of Hahn's work is actually a tendency accros all disciplines where critics, and they have an important role, miss the point in criticizing in a constructive and coherent way works to keep on building knowledge, wisdom and honest work. i feel that also in my field where authors are criticized for their behaviors and sometimes ackward public talks rather on their scientific work, which is valuable and for sure with weaknesses.

If Dr. Hahn was a prideful know it all, he never would have converted in the first place. Conversion is a tough, thoroughly humbling experience.

Keith Green took me out of the Catholic Church, but the Holy Spirit and Steve Wood brought me back in 1991. Steve Wood and Dr Scott Hahn were seminary mate's 🙏 I'm eternally Grateful for them both. Viva Cristo Rey 🙏

Just checked Martin's faculty page at Viterbo University, no mention of a PhD. I wonder if he's successfully defended this dissertation at the University of Dayton...

Why the title “American Pope”?

This guy’s problem with Hahn strikes me as jealousy, and if this is his best work, you can see why. What kind of diploma factory would award a PhD for this?

God bless Dr Hanh, because of him 🙏 as a Catholic makes understand more the scripture.

A few years ago I was facilitating the study The Bible and the Sacraments which uses Dr. Hahn's book A Father Who Keeps His Promises as an ancillary text. One of participants, to this day, complains about Dr. Hahn's lack of scholarship. I plan to send him this video.

How did the dissertation committee at the University of Dayton approve such sloppy scholarship? And how did the editors at Wipf and Stock allow its publication? Whatever renown these institutions previously enjoyed just took a big hit.

This is long! For such a small book. When you mentioned the whole John Neumann thing, that was enough for me to understand this person is a fundamentalist lol it’s a good video tho. Scott Hahn is brilliant!

There were an unusually high number of ads in this video. Same for the one about zeitgeist. It was annoying and almost made me stop listening. I think something might be afoot. I hope I'm not being too... certain

I am certain that 2 + 2 = 4. I must be a mathematical fundamentalist! :-)

Seems like his advisors let him slide through on that dissertation.

The problem is not many people defines "Fundamentalism"

SCOTT hahn is just great. Millions have benefited from Hahn's writings and come to the truth. Some people may not like the fact that Hahn skilfully affirms Catholicism. But we who read his books and watched his videos are grateful.

One cannot prove or demonstrate the truth of the Catholic faith since faith is supra-rational (as opposed to infra-rational). You can provide an argument based on an inference to the best explanation but that is the extent of what reason can show. Pascal, I think, recognised the profound limitations of human intelligence, even though he put forward rational arguments- but of course he knew that those rational arguments only take one so far.

“Liberal Catholics are wolves in sheep’s clothing.” Pope St Pius X

You can get a PhD in the USA for this? That is "troubling". It is "troubling" that his supervisor did not do a better job. A few hours before I listened to Trent Horn talking about Scott Hahn's commentary on Genesis I was actually reading it. How weird is that!! Swain challenging Scott Hahn is like a flea challenging an elephant to a fight.

RE: footnotes taking up the majority of the page: I know exactly what book you’re talking about.

I have heard that Scott Hahn's old friend, Gerry Matatics, is a Feenyite. Ask Scott what he thinks about "Sola Aqua."

Footnotes >> Endnotes

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So what if he is?

I bet that Martin guy is a modernist.

Half Truths is convenient a hiding place for people who don't deal with their bitterness.

If, even after this, you take people who claim to be "educated", and have a PhD seriously because of their so-called "qualifications" seriously, you deserve what you get.

What is the opposite of a "fundamentalist"? A modernist who embraces nebulous truth?

That's just beyond funny :D

This Martin is a Professor? I can't be taught by him definitely.

the likes of people like this writer trying to destroy Scott Hahn as a fundamentalist should look up and discern the work he despises so much… The Word made flesh who is Jesus would greatly want the author to repent and hear the good news as Scott Hahn describes it not as this author despises it..

It's odd that someone accuses Hahn of assuming he's always right when Rome Sweet Home and his fame revolve around his reconciliation with Catholicism. That means that Hahn remains most famous for repeatedly saying "I was wrong" in print, on tape, and in public!