Is Sex Pistols guitarist Steve Jones a FAKE musician? Did a WOMBLE create Never Mind the Bollocks? 

You do realize Spedding is talking about the demos he produced early 1977 not NMTB.....Spedding was long gone by 1977.Bill Price produced it....and Matlock didn't play bass, Jones did the bass on the album. And Matlock wasn't sacked because of the way he looked, he was sick of Rotten. You are just wrong about a lot of basic facts. There was a year of Jones playing gigs between Speddings one involvement and recording Bollocks and you can't grasp that he improved.

Steve is a very competent guitar player. Not a virtuoso, but he knows how to play. I strongly doubt he was not playing guitar on Nevermind the Bollocks.

It's no surprise that he didn't sound the same in many live gigs because they often played without monitors. The first time Lydon heard himself on a monitor he kicked it in.

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Jones could play, live back in 77 with spit, beer and a rudimentary stage sound then the live shows could be chaotic. A year or two later when playing live with the professionals he was solid.....bollocks is all him.

In that band picture with the van that's Nils Stevenson, not Spedding. He was an assistant to Malcolm I think. His brother Ray Stevenson took tons of pictures of the band, including that one. He put out a book or two showing his photos also. Sex Pistols File is the one I have. As for Steve, he's a great guitarist and in those days was literally playing for a few months before the band started up with Lydon. The old live recordings with Matlock on bass, especially the 1976 shows at the 100 Club sound excellent. Very tight playing from the whole band. Better Live Than Dead LP (Burton on Trent) is a perfect example. Later gigs with Sid were most likely harder to do since the bass was often minimal or not there at all. The later live recordings I heard sound great regardless. Why? Because the Pistols were an awesome band and Cook is an awesome drummer that always held it together. The Pistols were the real thing. Youthful aggression and excitement. I'm sure thats Steve playing on Bollocks and everything else.

The thing is ..and I have notvread All the comments,the album was produced very well and Steve's guitar was layered to give it that full ,rich sound it has . Back then and with the equipment they had of course it would sound nothing like the record. I believe absolutely it was Steve.

The key thing for me was that Jonesy was there and his presence added to the creation of the whole thing. Who played it is not too important like you say. He must feel like it’s only him that ever gets questioned on this type of thing though, it’s been bandied around for decades. I think he still has the spirit and attitude to this day and is a great advocate of all music. If you’ve listened to his radio shows you’ll know he’s always saying he’s not the greatest player that ever lived. Talent is one thing, style and being in the moment is another.

Steve Jones is completely legit.

I’ve met him twice on his radio show and he is an amazing human. Hilarious, sharp, full of vim and vigor even at his age now.

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So did Steve also NOT play on the Professionals album recorded a couple years later? BTW The Professionals sounded awesome live IMO.

I love Chris Spedding, his playing on the first couple of Nucleus albums is sublime,he actually played on a fair bit of British jazz , great guitar player.

14:38 according popular urban legend, the response was "ah, yes, Mr. Ferocious, we're doing our best, dear." According to the late Mr. Mercury himself, he merely called Sid "Simon Ferocious," and after Sid reacted negatively, it was then that he said "what are you going to do about it?" It were one of Queen's roadies what embellished the story by saying Freddie grabbed him by the lapels. Apparently Freddie's witty yet withering response alone was enough to cower Sid. That's an Alpha Gay for you.

When interviewed as to how Joy Division was formed, Peter Hook would give the answer that he and Sumner saw the Sex Pistols at the 1976 Lesser Free Trade Hall gig in Manchester and came away saying that if this band was that awful and couldn't play their instruments yet they could get gigs then so could he and Bernard if they formed a band and that had to be better than punching a clock each day. That comment and the first album never sat right with me either as NMTB was an absolute banger from start to finish. Jonesy is still a national treasure though.

Dude! great channel 😀 can't believe we're digging this ol' chestnut up again!😂 I don't doubt for a second jonsey played all guitar and bass parts! He had massive guidance under Chris Thomas to keep tuning/ re doing more and more overdubs! The biggest part of the album is professional production and layering parts! Chris speding is on record saying he didn't play on it and I think was out the country while recording! He's not on any credits whatsoever anywhere and if you were him wouldn't you tell everyone your playing on it! Yup!😀🎸

The photo of the Pistols at 5:23 isn't with Spedding - it's Nils Stevenson.

Steve Jones did a pretty good job on the Neurotic Outsiders stuff. the lead line on “Feelings Are Good” stands out to me.

It's rare here, but Americans seem to fully buy into the whole 'boy band' myth around the Sex Pistols, they they were a record industry creation to cash in on the punk boom. Three of them were already the band before asking McLaren to manage them, and Lydon was invited to audition after several others turned the job down. And none of the people involved had any connection to the corporate world of music, and obviously, until The Sex Pistols came along, there was no punk 'boom'. But, the myth persists, possible because American punks are a little jealous that British punk was actually successful, and put punk on the map.

There’s always been stories about Jones actually playing on never mind the bollocks. The Spedding demos were recorded in 1976 NMTB was mostly recorded some 8 months later, in between Spunk was kind of a forerunner to NMTB. You have to remember that the Pistols played over a hundred gigs so did have time to develop. I read Speddings autobiography The Reluctant Guitar Hero an excellent book what a list of names he’s been involved with. He loved The Pistols and really championed them in the beginning when no one would give them the time of day. Spedding states in his book that Jones played all the guitars. On NMTB there is quite a wall of sound and indeed it does sound far more professional than the early recordings but then with a good producer and engineer I believe it’s possible. As far as I’m aware Sid only plays on bass on Bodies. I also heard a rumour that Andy Allen who later was in the Lightning Raiders played some guitar on NMTB he was a good friend of Steve and Pauls. Having seen The Pistols live on two occasions both in their comeback Finsbury Park and Crystal Palace there’s certainly no denying now that Jones is a more than competent player. I actually own a white Gibson Les Paul that was signed after the Finsbury Park gig in June 1996. It was offered in a competition and was auctioned on EBay a few years later. I own many guitars now but years back I always dreamed of owning a Gibson Les Paul so it might as well be a white one signed ‘Load of old Steve Jones Bollocks’. I guess we’ll never really know the truth about Jonesy Very interesting video by the way new sub here

So you mean that this Chris guy played everything on The Great R'n'R-Swindle too? And popped over to Paris to play on Sid's rendition of "My Way"? That song is a prime examples of Steve's fondenss for layering guitars (and doing it very well and very much in his own style and sound). Steve said they had cut "My Way" with a trio of french session musicians, and that it sounded awful and that he had to put on a ton of guitars to get it half descent (and later the strings were added too). "My way": ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Re4C33thTEE.html&ab_channel=punkrockrecordings77

These kinds of rumors have been swirling around for years. You've let a couple of bad clips get in your head and you've ruminated on it, I just watched the whole of Winterland and aside from a few moments of string-raking bravado I get the exact opposite impression, there is more than enough there to convince me he can play what we hear on the album. Some people actually do very well in the recording studio and producers do play a lot of tricks, they have a whole bag of them, some of it's cheating, but some of it is simple psychology. I remember John Leckie saying that when he would record a punk band he'd load up a nice big real, set the tape speed low and go next door to the pub for an hour. Usually, by the time he got back, the band would have at least one usable take. Plenty of examples of musicians who are sloppy live and scrub up pretty good in the studio. Anyway did Malcolm lock them all in a loft and force them to rehearse for 12 months straight? I think they were all talented, and I even include Malcolm in that. You don't write clever creative songs by accident. Remember when people said John couldn't sing? Is it a session musician on the PiL albums? I mean, it's all nonsense, of course they were all talented.

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This is such fun. .please can you analyse "Paul is dead" next? I'll start the ball rolling, I think the current one IS Billy Shears🤣🤣

You nailed Asheton’s tone man.. I love Spedding with John Cale back then in the 70’s.. I think Jonesy and Spedding both played on NMTB.. I like Jonesy’s sessions on Thunders’ solo album, and Thunders’ playing was influential on him (in his best days..)

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No, no, no, a Womble _found_ the mastertapes of _Bollocks_ that some folks had left behind on Wimbledon Common and VOILA!

The only downside to the album was the inclusion of the four singles..recorded November 76-October 77. Speddings commitment to this project was pretty impressive in that case? And did Spedding also play on Silly Thing, damn good continuity of the "Steve Jones" sound in that case and Spedding Must've been busy playing on Iggys Blah blah blah album? If so , that Cry for Love solo is another classic SJ impersonation????..That Freddie story? Sid was a huge fan, felt the ssme about Abba. and was made up to run into him at a studio. Paul Weller having a physical altercation with Sid in 77 is the story Please turn your forensic analysis to "Paul is dead" next?

Two things make me believe Steve played the guitar on NMTB, first John Lydon was in the studio at the time and I'm pretty sure he would have been only too happy to mention it in his book if Chris Spedding had done it, plus in the studio is completely different to playing on stage with one guitar, there's something like seven multi tracked guitars on Anarchy in the UK on the record no wonder it sounds better and the songs are not that difficult to play it's basically bar chords and Chuck Berry licks.

The Wombles were way more punk than the Pistols. 1. They lived in a commune 2. They gave a shit about the planet, made good use of the things they found and recycled decades before it was cool, trend setters 3. They were straight edge. You never saw Orinoco popping pills or hammered on booze 4. They were vegetarian, I reckon, never seen a Womble tucking into a steak 5. They feckin rocked, 'Remember you're a Womble' is an absolute banger They basically invented modern post punk.

Quite a lot of conjecture here. Chris Thomas was not the kind of producer who snuck around bringing in session musicians to play uncredited without telling the band about it. There's a video on RU-vid of Steve Jones playing all the guitar parts from Never Mind The Bollocks and explaining how he came up with them, taking speed & practicing all night. And Jones did indeed steal lots of gear before he joined The Pistols. For example, he stole Mick Woodmansey's cymbals, & paid Woodmansey back for them in cash decades later when Mick was a guest on Steve's radio show. Pete Townshend did indeed play on Can't Explain. Jimmy Page was brought in to do the solo, & session singers were brought in to do the backing vocals, for which they're credited. As to the CIA's involvement in Modern Art, that had to do with the manipulation of the market to place America at the center of the market, instead of France. And it just so happened that the painters whose work sold for what were then very high prices, happened to be incredibly talented artists, such as Willem de Kooning, Philip Guston, Robert Motherwell, Joan Mitchell, et al. Back to session musicians: The Byrds only sang on their first album. The instruments were played by The Wrecking Crew. The group were furious, and demanded to be able to play on at least one song. When the producer finally agreed, it took them 77 takes to get a useable track. The Sex Pistols had been playing regular gigs before they recorded Bollocks. Jones was perfectly competent with the material. Paul Cook was the weak link in the pre-Sidney The Vicious Pistols. Shortly before they went into the studio, he was still having a bit of trouble coming out of a drum fill while still keeping time, but got it together by the time they went into the studio.

The Spedding demos were the first demos the Pistols did in May 1976. The Demos that ‘Got them signed’ were the Dave Goodman ‘Denmark St’ demos made in August 1976

Kurt did get talked into double tracking on Nevermind. Butch Vig reminded him that Lennon did it and he gave in.

Listen to the soundboard/ sound check for the 78 winterland show. Unless someone else is playing for him at sound check, he's noodling on that guitar pretty well.

First time I heard Never Mind the Bullocks.... I was really surprised by how slow the songs were and how "professional" the music sounded. I remember thinking "If you remove Rotten's vocals, this could be a Foreigner album".

Great video. First I'm seeing this channel. And I have so much love for Badfinger! The tragedy of Badfinger...

Love your take. Same age here, and remember being a 14 year old starting to play punk with no lessons and my dad explaining that the bands I was trying to copy were actually skilled, accomplished musicians before they became "punk". Took another decade or so before I could hear the difference. Looking back at my own recordings that sound like the original Germs album, and comparing to FEAR, The Damned and Sex Pistols really makes sense. Totally agree that McLaren did produce an album Milli Vanilli style. Real question: what show are those clips near the end from, with the guitar posed by keyboard guy, and the Spinal Tap style bass discussion? Is that "The Wombles"?

That is all Steve on that record. Matlock played all the bass. Steve and Sid played bass on Holiday in the Sun and Bodies.

This video is a nostalgia trip - I'm little bit older than you and as a child I loved the Wombles! And then the Pistols came along when I was 12 and I loved it. Motorbiking was a song that's always stayed with me as well. Oh and my dad was in the Pretty Things - David Gilmore said the Pretty Things make the Stone's sound lame!

Really appreciate that video, that's something I always wondered about. I tried learning GSTQ as a kid and immediatley thought "this is very suspicious, the playing's way too good". Then I started thinking "punks can't play" is a storytelling scheme (especially for first wave boy bands) and Steve is actually an experienced musician (but I didn't have access to more info at that time so...)

FYI Chris wrote the slide guitar parts on George Harrison ' All Things Must Pass ' ........... like gas . George copied the parts , Chris got the Das Boote . I did a session with Chris in my Toronto Studio . We went to the Pub .

After hearing so much about the huge rock bands using backing tracks at concerts, it makes me appreciete the Pistols live gigs even more

Good work including a clip of the infamous streaker tent scene from Bottom!

Still love Wilko Johnson's quote when asked where his pedals were?' I'm a guitarist not an Effing cyclist!!' God rest his beautiful soul.

Glen was and is an amazing artist who wrote most of their songs.

Steve Jones played every guitar part on every sex pistols recording and all the bass on Never Mind the Bollocks apart from a few snippets they saved from Sid. He's a phenomenal guitarist and was then too... sloppy live at times but it was all him.

Steve Jones changed his gear when the Sex Pistols signed to EMI. The Les Paul that he used on the Dave Goodman Spunk sessions and famously at the 100 clubwas sold to Brian Chevette of Eater. Eater were produced by Goodman. It sold in a Christies auction in 2010 for just over £16k

Great vid! I was a metal fan (Sabbath, Zeppelin, Rush) when the Pistols hit. But I was blown away by the energy of that record that I named "violence on vinyl." Still love it.

Personally I feel the myth that they couldn’t play live was around the US tour Steve’s gear got abused during transit necks needing adjusting, bridges needed setting he had no roadies that’s why you hear him constantly go out of tune and also the band was on its last legs so he just didn’t care most likely if you listen to live shows from 1976-1977 you can play he plays really well I think the best two shows that are good audio quality is screen on the green and Baton Rouge

I think may be as simple as Steve was always drunk live but not in studio

Great video man. Got my sub. Ramones came out in 76 and they were playing shows since 74

Your videos are becoming so interesting man, fast becoming a great RU-vidr now.

Interesting video. I could certainly see why both CS and SJ would fabricate stories. But I dont know why the two production guys in the documentary you showed would lie.

I genuinely tend to believe that Spedding did the scratch tracking of Anarchy, God Save the Queen etc. and all of the early stuff, and that all of the extra layers on those songs are Jonesy tracking his parts properly over Spedding’s scratch tracks (essentially playing along, on his best, most focussed takes) which were left in the final mix, and when Matlock left, Jonesy was able enough that he could make his rhythm gimmick translate over to the bass without much issue; Bodies was where they employed the “straight into the board bottom-string-chugging next to the kick & snare” trick he showed on the Classic Albums episode, ‘cos Sid’s was playing was that weak. Jonesy is all over Bollocks, but I seriously wonder if Cookie tracked drums to Spedding’s guitar/bass scratch tracking for the songs’ early development. It just goes to show - Lloyd/Verlaine, Johnny Ramone, Sylvain and eventually Dr. Know from Bad Brains - the Americans had their shit together way earlier and way better than their British counterparts. It was guys like Sumner/Hook, Keith Levene, John MacGeoch etc. that saved the skill and musical ability of British punk when it was all said and done. Mick Jones and Paul Simonon also, but they really were song-writers as opposed to riff-builders sculpting songs from their instrumental ideas

as usual, you captured me with your clear delivery. another well done video!

Matlock was kicked out of the band for asking McLaren where his royalties were given that he was the lyricist

If you watch videos, you can hear his playing progress. It's amazing what you can do in a few months with time and the right mentor. I think spedding definitely coached him along the way. I've been at home sick and would just play for hrs. The amount you can improve in that period of time is insane. That being said, as I've gotten better, I've realized what's on that record is not just some dude banging out 2 chords in 4/4 time. I can't believe lydon wouldn't out jonsey if he didn't play on that record.

Im 63,in the day there was a rumour that spedding was playing backstage during gigs..this was around 1976/ 77...

Wicked video mate. Always been a HUGE fan of NMTB. Food for thought, for sure. Liked & subscribed.

I think your theories are pretty spot-on. DEFINITELY, please do a deep dive into the power pop influence of your dad's band! Man, they were so good! Cheers

The 'Wrecking Crew' model goes across the whole industry. The entertainment industry's product is allegedly self-contained bands that write, sing and play everything themselves. Thus we celebrate their all round genius. The truth is they get a little help from their 'friends' under the guidance of the central figure of the Producer. These tend to be ruthless and will tend to bring in a session guy who can nail it in the first take with the correct feel, attitude and musicianship if things aren't right. See George Martin/Alan White on the Beatles first EMI sessions.

What is that final song you're recording at the end of the vid? It's FANTASTIC. ;)

Steve Jones did all the Guitar work and bass on the album. I've been a professional for 35 years and even bringing up this question is an insult. Phil Emmanuel (R.I.P.) told me that Steve Jones was a great unique guitarist. I'll take his word over anyone any day. NO Sub here because you need to grow up mate. All the best

I love your vids man but I think your off here. The live thing, the guy was a junkie in the live stuff. Listen to Billy Idol Dancing... & The Professionals. He has a style & a sound. Damn, he's also on Megadeth's Anarchy... his playing personality is on Bollocks. Love The Wombles BTW. :)

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Spedding wasn’t involved with the recording of the album

Studio musicians have been used on countless tracks because they brought something to it that couldn't be had anyway else. They were no different, the live band is one thing the recording is different beast. On a side note No Matter What is a killer tune.

spedding was a womble but steve was the bollocks

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If you somehow have a decent ear musically and listen to early demos with the Sex Pistols (spunk) and on NMTB, it is a complete impossibility that there would be studio musicians playing on the album. (there's nothing wrong with being a studio musician) It's true that Chris Spedding co-produced the demo that got the Pistols the contract with EMI but to claim that (according to rumors it would be Chris Spedding on guitar, John Wetton on bass and Bill Bruford on drums ) Steve Jones not playing on the album is bullshit. As I said, listen to early recordings and compare to the top notch recording that Chris Thomas and Bill Price produced, it is of course a completely different level, but then you also have to know that Sex Pistols was the last of most bands to release a full-length album and they had to prove this. The producers demanded a lot from Jones (who also plays bass on the album on all songs except Bodies (vicious on bass) and Anarchy in the U.K. (Matlock). Also, the Pistols got worse and worse live if you compare them to live recordings live in 1976. It's also a complete impossibility (if now Chris Spedding plays guitar on NMTB) that Steve Jones would have copied his style 20 years later when the band re-emerged in 1996. Jones plays and has exactly the same presence and touch in his guitar playing there as on NMTB. Chris Spedding is a great guitarist but he certainly can't play like Steve Jones, that's my theory.

The great rock n roll swindle alright.

This is very interesting, I had the same experience. I heard about how terrible the Sex Pistols were, that they couldn’t play their instruments, etc. but I always felt like that didn’t jive with the album at all. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a fairly straight forward, and simple good ol’ fashioned distorted fast paced Rock ‘n’ Roll album, there’s not a ton going on, the songs are all fairly simple, so it’s not like one needs to be a Prog-Rock Jazz-steeped genius to play them well. If you can keep time, you can play Sex Pistols as well as the people that recorded the album. However, compared to their demos & live recordings they sound absolutely nothing like the album & Johnny Rotten’s vocals are the only remotely consistent part of their music. So I’ve always personally believed they are not the ones playing on the album, but I had no idea who it could be. If it was Chris Spedding that played on the album, I think that’s really fucking cool actually. Likewise, I would not be even remotely surprised to learn that the CIA, or MI6 played a role in the birth of Punk Rock. It would make a lot of sense, and it would be a really smart play on their part, after all the best opposition to have is opposition that you control. What better way to prevent counter-cultural movements from actually affecting change within your society than by controlling, shaping & steering those movements in the direction you want them to go from behind the scenes. Promoting a group like The Sex Pistols to be leaders of a counter-cultural movement, over other groups that had much more potent, and effective messages, and who actually could have led people to affect real social change. The Sex Pistols were an ineffectual drug addled mess, and I say this as a person who loves drugs, and firmly believes that all of them should be legal for adults. However, the thing about drugs is you have to know how to use them in a responsible way, otherwise they can consume you & destroy you & prevent you from managing your life effectively, and affecting the changes you wish to see in the world. The Sex Pistols definitely fell victim to that, and that made it next to impossible for them to be effective leaders, and effective messengers. Rather than spreading a message of real political change & reform, their message amounted to nothing more than aimless nihilism & hedonism, and that is not an effective way to affect change. Steering the Punk movement towards pure nihilism & hedonism was a brilliant way to prevent it ever posing a real threat to the political & social power structures of the UK & the US, and ensuring that it would fall on its face & fizzle out. So it wouldn’t surprise me in the least to someday learn that The Sex Pistols were an industry plant.

Arguably the most influential record label responsible for producing the new wave and post punk bands was IRS, founded by Miles Copeland, son of Miles Axe Copeland who cofounded the CIA with "Wild Bill" Donovan in 1947. Brother and son Ian Copeland was responsible for training U.S. Capitol police in riot control and counterinsurgency operations prior to the Memorial Day anti-war demonstrations in 1971. Kind of an odd personal history for a rock and roll enthusiast.

"New Rose" hit me full on. What a song. As for Jones on NMTB. Who knows. Love Steve Jones though.

I loved Bad News Tour as a kid.

Yeah that's right. Chris Thomas lied. Bill Price lied. Jonesie lied. Matlock lied. Lydon lied. And they've been lying ever since. BOLLOCKS. The facts: Jonesie played every lead and rhythm on NMTB. And every bass line except Anarchy (Matlock). Vicious' bass is barely noticeable on Bodies. And that's the true, historical facts. You say you love 'Em mate but you don't seem to acknowledge that the reason NMTB is one of the greatest rock n roll records of all time is down, to a large part, Jonesie. He's one of the most simple, yet distinctive, intuitive and unmistakable leads in rock history. And don't get me started on his tone...thousands have tried - and failed - to get near it. It's funny how you like Marco so much...a bloke who idolised Jonesie back in the day and was a major, major influence on him....

Great work as usual! Love Bad Finger. Pistols guitar work was incredible. Studio dudes are the core of the music biz. A handful around the world. Thanks!

Hey just found your channel really interesting video! Who's your dad? I'm a huge badfinger fan!

Thanks so much for this. I joined a Pistols Tribute act a few years ago because I thought " 3 chord thrash = easy peasy " as I started learning the songs I was amazed - I really had to be on my toes to get this stuff right. Then I learn Steve Jones like learnt to play guitar less than a year before recording!! Im like...really?? Thanks for clearing it up - I knew there was something going on.

As someone whose band in the 80s used to deliver a completely sincere punk version of 'Remember You're a Womble' and shares some of your insider insight into the often unpretty biz, I have to say this really hit the spot. I'll be back for more.

Having seen the Pistols a few times I can clarify SJ can really play. Of course albums are tinkered with, over dubs etc, but not sure about the Spedding story, he was everywhere in the 70’s as was Larry Wallis and many others. Sighting Page is a bit hit and miss, because he was shocking live many times, just listen to Live Aid or the Atlantic awards shambles. I think the SJ is fake headline is a bit much personally. If Chris McCormack says he (SJ) played it all that’s good enough for me.

Spedding helped to produce the 'Spunk' demo sessions in 1976. I can't find any evidence that he plays on the album

Everybody knows Glenn got fired cuz he washes his feet too much

Circle of tone, l'd love to know who owns the SG given to Pete Ham by George Harrison. Many myths have surrounded the guitars whereabouts. Being such an important instrument in the Beatles "interesting" period of sound and musical maturity, also used on such outstanding Badfinger songs . Would be of great interest to all the guitarist who like me would love to know what amps were used on No Dice and Straight up, especially amongst all the subsequent studio and live recordings . Giving it your attention could be an amazing journey only you could take us on !

I was thinking "this guy seems Welsh", right when you said your dad's band was Badfinger. Cool video - I had wondered about the Pistols' album, after hearing their live clips. I figured they were given the big studio production treatment or something. Hwyl fawr

Thank you for clearing this up - I've been under the misapprehension that he played on NMTB for at least 30 years! And of course if he did, he would have said so by now.

OK.. you got my sub and respect to your theory, albeit with a lump in my throat.. I'm 55 and a life-long Pistols fan and I have always been under the impression that Steve did the lead AND bass parts for all songs on NMTB apart from Bodies which they took Sid's bass recording. I'm aware of Spedding's heavy involvement in and around the band but never knew he could have been the (at least in part) lead guitarist. I'll accept the theory from a guitar professional which you clearly are, but leaves a nasty taste I won't lie. Interesting watch, thanks I'm off to watch your Killing Joke session.

Just recently discovered your channel and loving it man! This one is really interesting... I've heard this Spedding thing many times, I always kinda thought, if he did do it all, or most of it, wouldn't he have claimed that by now? Surely wouldn't have just kept tip lipped watching this thing become the masterpiece that it became over the last 45 odd years.. plus all the documented Pistols gigs are fucking wasted! None of them were willing to take the stage even almost sober, Jones in particular spoke about how he used to throw up before a lot of gigs. In the studio he was obsessed with Roxy Music and really wanted to get things right? Also, this comment is just an open stream of thought as you have me doubting everything... haha look forward to your next vid. You just about nailed Damned and Stooges there! Awesome stuff, thanks for sharing

"Ever get the feeling you've been cheated" ~Johnny rotten.

The guy in that picture isn't Spedding actually.

Love you bro. Been missing your content. Keep up the good work.

Fascinating presentation mate. I’m 53 so like you kinda missed the punk thing and been playing catch-up ever since. Also loved the Wombles😂 Didnt Steve Jones play guitar on repo man for iggy pop? He seems to have got the hang of it by then! Cheers. I’ve subbed :)

It was a swindle. Basically a boy band with a different theme, a bad boy band. The fashion was forward with the marketing and that's why it was an art project, and not really a band.

Punk was heavily influenced by Wombles. Check out captain sensible from the Damned with his pink womble top. Vivian Westwood started out as was a designer for her womble friend uncle Bulgaria, and that’s how the whole punk and Tartan fashion started.

I was a Skin. Loved every moment. Pure attitude, neat, clean, and clever.

Entertaining theory. I say he played everything. But clearly under careful producer direction. Jones is clearly pissed on all the big live shows so that's no reflection. The playing at various TV studio performances aren't bad. And I'd point to their cover of No Fun (which I prefer to the original!), which is like a live cut in the studio you can hear how good they were away from the super polished album cuts.

i'm 44 and from Houston Tx. and i remember see the Wombles on Nickaloadeon in the early 80's and a stop moshion Pattington Bear short on a kids show called "Pinwheel" the Wombles also the where shown as its own show... music still holds up;) And Great Review.

Hi! When you showed the photo of the group with Chris Spedding on the right hand side.., I’m pretty sure that was not Spedding but Nils Stevenson who was a friend of the band..a person on the scene

Steve Jones sounds exactly the same on his recordings with The Professionals he was the only one playing anything on Bollocks

Steve Jones did say the bloke who did the top of the pops womble songs did the guitar for NMTB but i think Steve Jones is calling our bluff