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Is She-Hulk: Attorney at Law really comic accurate? (No) 

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@Bluepenguin28
@Bluepenguin28 Год назад
Dan Slott :"I'm saying, for the record" i love how he is pretending everything he says is like a fact, egoist and narcissist phuck
@guilherme5094
@guilherme5094 Год назад
Slott is a fraud.
@franks2796
@franks2796 Год назад
Dan Slott in the nutshell
@thorveim1174
@thorveim1174 Год назад
just means being a terrible liar is now on the record.
@EquesTron
@EquesTron Год назад
Showrunner: “We didn’t feel like being faithful.” Dan Slott: “It’s the most faithful MCU show yet!” Only one of these are true and it isn’t the second one.
@adampkalb
@adampkalb Год назад
First of all, I hate Jessica Gao's admission of laziness that She-Hulk is an unfaithful adaptation, a tv show on Disney+ that is meant to be a Marvel superhero product and a procedural legal comedy, yet insists on being neither. Second of all, I feel very bad for this paradox in which Dan Slott has been boxed. Either he takes the risk of being falsely accused of being a misogynist for telling her she was in the wrong and she is false to the character, or she is the real misogynist here against herself because of how badly she messed up in adapting She-Hulk, and thinks that being a woman of color gives her a free pass to insult white men in her show as many times as she wants, and base most of She-Hulk's attempts at comedy around that! Anyone who questions her methods or corrects her mistakes is supposedly the greater misogynist. Well, guess what? It does not excuse the obvious bad job she did because Jessica Gao and other She-Hulk writers are still going to be chastised by Marvel fans for self-centered writing about a self-centered main character, and more importantly, insulting the audience for whom they were hired to write and entertain by writing a completely different product for a completely different audience, or else no audience at all. The world and the events of She-Hulk are all about She-Hulk even though we know why it should not be all about her. So they should not have made the show all about them and their minor self-loathing problems if they wanted anyone who still cares about the MCU to like their adaptation of She-Hulk.
@DOFIXERR
@DOFIXERR 3 месяца назад
I don't understand all the hate that it got. I read Dan Slott's run and for me it was excellent. The satire was 👌✨
@thetruej7872
@thetruej7872 Год назад
Like I said before, She Hulk in the cartoons and video games had better adaptions than in the MCU. My favorites being from Marvel vs Capcom 3 and Fantastic Four World's Greatest Heroes.
@nyshyn307
@nyshyn307 Год назад
Yup. I'm disappointed that they didn't just rip her from those portrayals, it's one of the times when doing just that would've been perfect
@monkeyboy317
@monkeyboy317 Год назад
Even Lego she hulk is better then this one💀
@matityaloran9157
@matityaloran9157 Год назад
I liked She-Hulk in the 1996 animated Hulk series
@TheLunarLegend
@TheLunarLegend Год назад
Comics: Jen nearly dies from mob hit, gets saved by bruce, becomes she-hulk from a blood transfusion, loves being she-hulk Show: Jen saves bruce from a car crash, gets splashed with his blood which turns her into she-hulk, hates being she-hulk. Oh yeah, 100% 1:1 accurate
@HiTianshi
@HiTianshi Год назад
Even if we take his word for it, that doesn't make anything better. In fact, it makes matters worse because if we give him the benefit of the doubt, he's technically dissing his own set of comics because of the show's extremely poor quality. Also, to go on a small tangent, it astounds me that nobody is pointing out how misogynistic the show writers for She-Hulk are. They keep going with these expectations that people hate She-Karen 'cause she's a woman and then go on to project their misogyny with things like Intelligencia or simply how unlikable they made She-Karen. "People hate her 'cause she's a woman!" No, people hate her 'cause you created a misogynistic depiction of a female superhero to represent all female superheroes, and that's honestly disgusting.
@Doc-Glock
@Doc-Glock Год назад
Agreed. There's much bigger, more fundamental problems than the show not being comic-accurate.
@happynihilist2573
@happynihilist2573 Год назад
Yhe I know the show comes across almost like anity women propaganda The writers referre to themselves as feminists wtf? Is this really what the women's rights movement has been reduced too?
@RM-cn8pw
@RM-cn8pw Год назад
So you’re basically admitting that you’re brain-dead. Because no. He’s not dissing his own set of comics, especially not because of the show’s extremely poor quality. Because the show doesn’t have any extremely poor quality.
@RM-cn8pw
@RM-cn8pw Год назад
“‘People hate her ‘cause she’s a woman!’” This is factual. “No, people hate her ‘cause you created a misogynistic depiction of a female superhero” But they didn’t. At all. Again, learn what misogyny means. Read a book. “to represent all female superheroes” Except this is yet another lie of your creation. Because nowhere was it implied She-Hulk is meant to represent all female superheroes. This is a literal Strawman. “and that’s honestly disgusting.” YOU CANNOT CALL SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE MADE UP DISGUSTING. What’s actually disgusting here is you lying your ass off.
@RM-cn8pw
@RM-cn8pw Год назад
@@Doc-Glock There quite literally aren’t. Especially since it is comic accurate.
@natto4now
@natto4now Год назад
Just remember guys Ironman death, black panthers death and captain America's death dosnt matter cause she hulk can easily go into the editors room and undo it And yes even those the robot said she can't do this anymore it's not about that but the fact that she can
@O1OO1O1
@O1OO1O1 Год назад
Jen getting attacked by men, and her becoming she hulk because of it, would actually validate much of the show and give her a decent arc. She can learn to own being a Hulk, and rise above the cycle of violence and victim hood. And the bad men can still be bad.
@CarpettinginMotel.townson
@CarpettinginMotel.townson Год назад
If only the writers had half a sense of self awareness, then this would ACTUALLY something to say about harassment!
@TheSpawnfan
@TheSpawnfan Год назад
You would need talented writers for it, which we don't have in this show
@SchmergDergen
@SchmergDergen Год назад
Anyone could’ve done the show better. You could tell the writers were just projecting from their pedestal.
@natto4now
@natto4now Год назад
Even deadpool isn't like "lulz ima just ask the producers to undo the conflict and let me win" at least not in the movies which is the equivalent to this show
@Rockmanbalboa
@Rockmanbalboa Год назад
not even the comics actually, he and she-hulk in the comics tend to respect that limit as far as i know.
@MarkERoth
@MarkERoth Год назад
I disagree I can totally see Deadpool breaking out of frame and going to the producers demanding they let him win reminding them of who the star is. Bonus points if he flaunts the continuity gem at them and threatens to just do it himself and his asking is just a courtesy.
@Shiirow
@Shiirow Год назад
@@MarkERoth I could only see that as a thing if the writers were being purposely mean or incompetent in the comic and Deadpool had to go all Duck Amuck on them. He tends to just voice his displeasure rather than crossing over.
@leoncoben6983
@leoncoben6983 Год назад
Nah Deadpool would 100% do something like that, he'd just make it funny. He straight up taunts the player in MvC3 and reminds them that he's the one busting his ass for the win while they're sitting on the couch.
@SebasTian58323
@SebasTian58323 Год назад
I mean I'm pretty sure he's cut through the pages of the comic he's in to travel back in time
@jeremyknight9980
@jeremyknight9980 Год назад
Titania sounds so cool in the Comics and I was really hoping she was faithfully adapted in the show, but of course she wasn't. It's so frustrating that the show was only made to "Own the Trolls" and it's having a negative effect on the character because people will think that's how she is in her Comics and appearances in cartoons. I can't believe that Marvel has such distain for it's characters and it's fanbase.
@willmangrum3686
@willmangrum3686 Год назад
It really is a shame. They didn't go into Titania's (very good) origin story, and the way she was set up suggests she doesn't even have it. And for the life of me I can not understand why she hates Jen in the show. Well, I can, but the way it's built makes no sense.
@jeremyknight9980
@jeremyknight9980 Год назад
@@willmangrum3686 Mary doesn't have a reason to bother or hate Jen in the show. She's just this random ass influencer with no backstory. It makes me wonder why she was even there.
@willmangrum3686
@willmangrum3686 Год назад
@@jeremyknight9980 Like I meant to say, the only reason she has to hate Jen is that Jen is unlikable. But the show insists that Jen is somehow a relatable protagonist, so it makes no sense within the context of the series.
@soulechelon2643
@soulechelon2643 Год назад
The biggest travesty of this show is the fact that they made complete fallacies of these originally awesome and interesting characters. This show could've brought so many of them to the limelight and showed off to the general public how cool the comic world can be. Instead it just reinforced stereotypes, fed trolls (which we all know you shouldn't do. Trolls literally won because of this), weakened Marvel as a whole, and pushed away people invested in Marvel and anyone potentially interested in comics in general. And to add: You two deserve far more subs and views. Been following for a little while now and so far I've agreed with everything stated. You two clearly know your stuff and are passionate about the topics you talk about. Hope to see you grow to 30k subs and beyond this year.
@Adamguy2003
@Adamguy2003 Год назад
Good point on how it pushed away people potentially interested in comics in general. The exact opposite of the effect that the video game 'Marvel: Ultimate Alliance' had on me in 2006.
@i_will_not_elaborate
@i_will_not_elaborate Год назад
I'm sure other people have said this but I genuinely think the main writer (I still can't remember her name) was an outcast who never got to sit with the cool kids which why She-Hulk is treated like a self-insert and Titania is the stereotypical Mean Girl trying to foil her plans. Also, something tells me that Dan's tweet about her bring "comic accurate" is a ploy so people won't read the comics and thus they won't get a warhead sized backlash, as if that'll stop fans.
@jeremyknight9980
@jeremyknight9980 Год назад
If she did a google search of Titania that lasted more than a minute she'd would know that she and She Hulk are supposed to be opposites. If her story about being an outcast and never being able to be with the cool kids is true she would find Mary relatable.
@longtsun8286
@longtsun8286 Год назад
The writers crippled their own story, when they made the main villains "internet trolls." Don't they remember ANYTHING from the stories they enjoyed reading, watching, and playing (in the case of video games)? A hero or heroine is measured against the villain he or she fights. By making the villain so pathetic, the writers make She-Hulk pathetic in turn!
@matityaloran9157
@matityaloran9157 Год назад
The Critical Drinker made a video about that. It’s called What Happened to Our Villains? and it’s about how several female-led action movies insist on making the villains pathetic and these weaken the films as such. I don’t agree with everything he says, even in that video, but it’s definitely worth watching
@longtsun8286
@longtsun8286 Год назад
@@matityaloran9157 I already subscribed to his channel, and saw the video.
@matityaloran9157
@matityaloran9157 Год назад
@@longtsun8286 Oh. I brought it up since it seemed you were making a similar point
@Rocket1377
@Rocket1377 Год назад
Slott may have written the most issues but that doesn't make him the authority on She-Hulk. Quality over quantity (and besides, he has only written 6 more issues than John Byrne did). Stan Lee, David Anthony Kraft, and especially John Byrne are the ones who created/defined the character.
@SilentJables
@SilentJables Год назад
And John Byrne also wrote the Sensational She-Hulk graphic novel and before that he wrote She-Hulk in I think 30 issues of his run on Fantastic Four in which he replaced The Thing with her temporarily. But hey, apparently Slott has had more time with her.
@HLHReviews
@HLHReviews Год назад
Stan Lee and John Buscema would have had authority over it if they were still alive, considering they both created the character together.
@daltooinewestwood6380
@daltooinewestwood6380 Месяц назад
Slott has made the same claims about Spider-Man comics (that he’s written the most of anyone) just so he can win arguments with random strangers on Twitter. The guy seriously thinks HE is marvel
@TheSouloftheDragon
@TheSouloftheDragon Год назад
I wonder if Marvel 'asked' Slott to drum up attention. His tweet should've been either during or immediately after the show. Wouldn't have helped but might've look like he cared.
@frug5629
@frug5629 Год назад
Most likely so. This tweet reeks of "please don't fire me".
@MrDj232
@MrDj232 Год назад
Once a year Dr Doom goes to hell to save his mother's soul. Modern Disney would never let a man be portrayed as a good person like that.
@Loco0089
@Loco0089 Год назад
Now that would be a compelling story to tell in regards to Dr. Doom. Sadly, we will likely never get that outside of the comics.
@casperryborg4869
@casperryborg4869 Год назад
I assume that you're serious about that, and if that is the case, HOLY SHIT that is awesome. I'll have to dive deep into that character to see what else he portrays!
@SebasTian58323
@SebasTian58323 Год назад
​@@casperryborg4869 the reason he's so bent on world domination is because he's looked into the future 100, 000 times, looking at possible futures and the only one he found where humanity survives is the one in which he rules over the world as it's dictator. So that's what he'll do if it means mankind will survive. He's still every bit an egomaniac and power hungry as ever, but he believes what he's doing is the only way for mankind to survive and apparently, Bast, Wakanda's panther god, judged his intent to be pure. He fully believes all the evil he's done or will do are in service of this greater good that will save the world.
@dannphan
@dannphan Год назад
They were going for a Lazy and Uninspired Vibe. And they nailed it.
@silverbullet7691
@silverbullet7691 Год назад
How do you make a crime drama without knowing anything about court proceeding?
@ilcreatoren5846
@ilcreatoren5846 Год назад
Accuracy and the She Hulk TV series.. you can't put them Together. Lol.
@Dogapillar4Lyfe
@Dogapillar4Lyfe Год назад
My favorite She Hulks: Fantastic 4 when she teams up with Howard The Duck.
@mongooseunleashed
@mongooseunleashed Год назад
I was hyped for She hulk too until I watched the first episode. It only got worse from there.
@Shiirow
@Shiirow Год назад
The show was terribly written and not fun to watch, but of course that always the viewers fault for the creators incompetence. "Are we wrong? No, its the viewers that are wrong" - Dan Slott
@XC11301991
@XC11301991 Год назад
I wasn't familiar with She-Hulk but was watching it from only 1 set of reactors to get an idea of what the show was. I didn't like it but saw your recommendation months back. You really broke down well on what was wrong with the show, and your explanation of the comics really made me more interested in that version of character and the world she worked in.
@cybersketcher1130
@cybersketcher1130 Год назад
Literally read Dan Slott's run, it's nothing like the show. She-Hulk was a superior Korra if anything.
@GarciaXVLegend_04
@GarciaXVLegend_04 Год назад
I love your Defense/Passion of how She-Hulk was from the Comics & straight-up stating FACTS! I STRONGLY agree what you are saying J. Tanner because I've seen Comic Book Films/Shows ever since I was young & started reading Comics in the 2010s. The Show LACKS Focus, disrespects the Source Material, & turning Cool/Decent Original Concepts into something LAME! God bless your soul!
@Channeleven2345789
@Channeleven2345789 Год назад
Ey Garcia, never expected to see you here, and I agree all the way.
@GarciaXVLegend_04
@GarciaXVLegend_04 Год назад
@@Channeleven2345789 Oh yeah, you were on DeviantArt with the Marie Kanker PFP with those "Good Idea/Bad Idea" Topics. It sure has been a while since I've seen you but that is because I decided to leave DeviantArt for good.
@Channeleven2345789
@Channeleven2345789 Год назад
@@GarciaXVLegend_04 I can’t blame you for that honestly. Had it not been for some of my friends remaining there I would’ve left too. If you want, I’m active here and on TikTok and Tumblr.
@GarciaXVLegend_04
@GarciaXVLegend_04 Год назад
@@Channeleven2345789 I'll at least Sub to you, I went to Tumblr once (just once) & I had instant regret and as for TikTok, nah I'm good I know that SOME of my Favorite People are there just to branch out but I'd rather stick where I am at for the most part (RU-vid, Newgrounds, & PIXIV).
@Channeleven2345789
@Channeleven2345789 Год назад
@@GarciaXVLegend_04 understood, thanks a bunch.
@patrickmcguire7896
@patrickmcguire7896 Год назад
No matter what they say or who says it, that won’t change the fact that this show was garbage
@zev2x762
@zev2x762 Год назад
EXACTLY!!!🤣🤣🤣
@RM-cn8pw
@RM-cn8pw Год назад
That isn’t a fact though.
@davfree9732
@davfree9732 Год назад
Oscar the grouch is offended by this statement. He loves garbage and even he wouldn’t touch She-Hulk Attorney at Law.
@RM-cn8pw
@RM-cn8pw Год назад
@@davfree9732 You’re right that he wouldn’t. Because She-Hulk Attorney at Law is the furthest thing from garbage. You’re all garbage people though, and even he’d hate you.
@folklore6703
@folklore6703 Год назад
@@RM-cn8pw your right it's the Divine Truth.
@loupblanc7944
@loupblanc7944 Год назад
Just the fact that She-hulk was more friendly to Bruce in the comic already makes the show less comic-accurate. Honestly, for this version of the She-hulk I don't see how she and Bruce could of add a close relationship in the first place. Wich ironically makes it less believable.
@loupblanc7944
@loupblanc7944 Год назад
0:39 The irony of the phrase here is that Bruce in the comics ALSO was hesitant to give her his blood because of the entire Hulk thing. But there was no time to wait for rescue and his cousin (Who he had a good relationship with and saw as a sister) was dying fast so he made the risky and split decision to give her some of his blood anyway to save her.
@skaven969
@skaven969 Год назад
Love you videos! And no, she-hulk is not comic accurate XD
@Vanuslux
@Vanuslux Год назад
Your videos on the show are hands down the best I've seen, since you're clearly very knowledgeable about the character and are criticizing from the point of view of someone who actually cares, and you're not using any of the the more...er...questionable takes coming from people who are just have a vitriolic ax to grind in general. This show is another example of a piece of media that was created more with the people they anticipated not liking it in mind than the people who wanted the show in the first place, which almost always leads to the haters feeling vindicated by a product that isn't designed for anyone to actually like on its own merits. The idea that She-Hulk owned the trolls is fucking ludicrous...what it actually did was give a huge fucking income boost to the anti-woke content creators those trolls rally around. They may as well have shipped a case of whiskey to Critical Drinker's house for all they ruined the day of people who were never going to like the show in the first place. Meanwhile they ignore the existence of actual fans of the character who just wanted the series to be something that lived up to what we feel the character deserves. Jessica Jones proved you can have a show about a female superhero that is loved by critics and fans alike and is a success by every measure. She-Hulk could have had that too, but instead what is the show's legacy actually going to be? What does it have to really be proud of if you don't think feeding trolls is an accomplishment?
@TheRavenShadowsWolf
@TheRavenShadowsWolf Год назад
4:20 - frankly, the fact that it IS true, is why it stings. Because for the fans, for the built in audience that these shows and movies were originally TRULY made for - it pulls back the curtain. Way too harshly. It breaks the veil, and rips apart suspension of disbelief. You kill the magic, and then the show runner can be free to wonder why she's not getting a second season. We want to see these characters, actually comic accurate. We want to root for them, and we'll happily pay for the privilege. When it's done well, and right. To the tune of having made Marvel Studio's literal ungodly profit thus far. The key point in that formula, the contract if you want to apply Tort Law, is DO NOT break the magic. They can't call us "trolls" if they've actively hired someone who admitted openly she IS one. The thing is, Jen's POWERS were derivitive. And it took a LOT of work for skilled writers to create the reasons, within suspended disbelief that Jen WAS her own character and could stand on her own merit. There's a reason she's "not as strong" as The Hulk. That she's actively more articulate in most cases (barring Joe Fixit - or when Bruce has Hulk's body - or Professor Hulk) They went out of their way to explain it. To take apart the science, and the difference in their environment. To me, that's what they disrespect when they write her off as derivitive.
@PatrickWDunne
@PatrickWDunne Год назад
Of all the criticisms I've heard of the show, not one of them has been about its accuracy
@animezilla4486
@animezilla4486 Год назад
I agree about that
@mongooseunleashed
@mongooseunleashed Год назад
Um, that's one of the biggest criticisms...
@twinodoom
@twinodoom Год назад
That's because it's possible to not be accurate to the comics and still be good. However, She-Hulk did neither. It lost what people liked about the character from the comics, and replaced it with things that feel more basic.
@stevensteviepryde5888
@stevensteviepryde5888 Год назад
They even managed to make the wrecking crew underwhelming. They're closer to thug level and they still managed to make them just pathetic in comparison. They're more annoying and bumbling, their designs suck, and they white washed Thunderball which really didn't need to happen.
@ArnoldFrost
@ArnoldFrost Год назад
I don't remember She-Hulk being this misandristic (and ironically misogynistic) in the comics/cartoons. The guy's doing an appeal to authority fallacy too, considering that iirc Into the Spiderverse isn't comic-book accurate but still delivered on Miles Morales as a unique character like in the comics (the initial disdain aside)
@a.p907
@a.p907 Год назад
You 'own" the trolls by making a good show/movie/book/comic (or at least the best one you can make). Anything else is proving them right.
@princessmarlena1359
@princessmarlena1359 4 месяца назад
And anyone online who says they don’t like the show/movie/book/comic is a “troll” to them, unfortunately.
@PancakeInu
@PancakeInu Год назад
Never let them gaslight you
@falsehero2001
@falsehero2001 Год назад
When Harvey Birdman does courtroom drama and superheroes better than She-Hulk, you know someone messed up.
@danwilliams1989
@danwilliams1989 Год назад
I wouldn’t listen to Dan Slott. He’s had a very spotty reputation, especially on his work on Spider-Man.
@GarciaXVLegend_04
@GarciaXVLegend_04 Год назад
I have watched Thinking Critical's videos & at 1 point he discussed that they put out a NEW Amazing Spider-Man Comic Series just by turning him more of an A-Hole than before... If that fool was the same writer for that Spider-Man Series then he's he HACK!
@wildheartrazorfang6
@wildheartrazorfang6 Год назад
Edit: Please do not reply to this comment. I said my part. I don't need more pointless debates. I honestly really appreciate your take on She-Hulk. Too much of the discussion around the show gets weighed down by toxicity to the point where it can be hard to address the objective structural issues. Jen is the ragdoll macguffin of her own show. It's one thing to have a character as the audience viewpoint, but there's a difference between a passive character that takes the lead and becomes more prominent or a character that overcomes struggles to find themselves and what they did to Jen in this show.
@erikbihari3625
@erikbihari3625 Год назад
Toxic? Please people point out how she's horrible here, including robot head and the critical drinker!
@wildheartrazorfang6
@wildheartrazorfang6 Год назад
This is the only reply I will make: I'm not having an argument over whether or not there are arguments surrounding the show. Blaming the show for the subject matter feeds the trolls and/or proves the show right. The show is toxic to the supposed audience, and the type of people shown in the show or with that behavior in real life can be toxic as well. I like approaching the show from the objective writing structure and character analysis, and unfortunately, as your reply demonstrates, people are never able to just leave it at that. If you read all this, thank you. You are allowed your opinion, I just don't want my observations and praise being turned into another debate. Have a nice day.
@geniusgamerr4517
@geniusgamerr4517 Год назад
@@erikbihari3625 because she is a shit character compare to other version of she hulk I watched
@LowellLucasJr.
@LowellLucasJr. Год назад
Anybody noticed how aggro aggressive She-Hulk was being toward her cousin, giving off the " Anything you can do I can do better!" type of attitude when all he was trying to do is just share his knowledge with her. That was really my only problem with the series because I enjoyed some other aspects of it.
@casperryborg4869
@casperryborg4869 Год назад
That was your ONLY problem? Bad cgi, horrible writing, shitty directing and acting, the show taking the worst qualities of men and saying that all men are like that. Please say you didn't watch the show, that would at least explain such a horrible take.
@cecillbill
@cecillbill Год назад
Dan Slott tweeted for attention, period. Even the showrunner stated she didn't want comics accuracy, which is only one reason why the show sucked and is the worst MCU offering of any Phase.
@enterthenameyo
@enterthenameyo Год назад
I hate Dan's tweet because it's acting as if that was THE criticism the show got. Classic strawman
@GarethDragon
@GarethDragon Год назад
They also made The Wrecking Crew pretty pathetic.
@sonicroze
@sonicroze Год назад
My opinion? Disney needs to stop. I think Anti-Monopoly laws need to be held against the mouse and his assets sold off and divided one by one, allowing a chance that someone who actually cares gets ahold of these properties.
@TheSpawnfan
@TheSpawnfan Год назад
Titania is so far from what she was in the comics that she may be another character, this isn't She-Hulk, this is She-Karen, the Ultimate Karen-form
@WarGhoulKharas
@WarGhoulKharas Год назад
Just put one panel of the Wrecking Crew from the comics and one from the series. Argument dead right there.
@kingbash6466
@kingbash6466 Год назад
She Hulk is about as accurate to the comics as Resident Evil Welcome to Raccoon City is to the games. Sure, they say it's accurate to the source material. It look like the source material, but the heart and ton around it is non-existent.
@patchyworx
@patchyworx Год назад
It's truly been nothing but downhill since Stan Lee passed away, look how they massacred marvel... Disney what have you done
@danemiller4852
@danemiller4852 Год назад
You are the best she-hulk truther.
@jerelmerrill7100
@jerelmerrill7100 Год назад
It just felt like the writers were more invested in trolling bad-faith critics instead of creating a show for people who were earnestly expecting to enjoy it.
@seishosutiguma598
@seishosutiguma598 Год назад
I think he said that so people would read the comics to compare them. But there was one problem in his plans, fans on RU-vid who will call him out for his BS.
@rash_punk2815
@rash_punk2815 Год назад
the needed better writers
@Phantomsangel
@Phantomsangel 4 месяца назад
I don't understand why shows nowadays feel they need to be these loud obnoxious mouth pieces for topics like 'oh women have it soo hard' sure I'm sure some do but so do men too. Heck all living things have it rough in some capacity. Idk did super hero comics go that hard with that in the past? I'm pretty sure they were more seen as equals and not BETTER than the other. Watching this inspires me to actually read the comics now.
@TheSimodon
@TheSimodon Год назад
Noice vid and pretty informative about some of the characters. Anyone know the comic / issue of the panels at 5:50 and 5:52, story / chars sound neat in comparisson to the show.
@mjtannertwins
@mjtannertwins Год назад
Issue 10 of the 2004 She-Hulk run.
@TheSimodon
@TheSimodon Год назад
@@mjtannertwins Thanks :D
@wlfmanjack
@wlfmanjack Год назад
When he says its "the most comic accurate," he just means it's comedic with 4th wall breaks that's it. Which is only a part of the character and her comics, its like saying MCU's Spider-man is the most comic accurate cause he got his powers while in high school and needs web shooters, while ignoring everything else the MCU changes.
@ThatGuy-jj3kz
@ThatGuy-jj3kz Год назад
To dissect his quote even more, "the most comic accurate MCU show" is a meaningless statement on Dan's part. To give Dan the benefit of the doubt, let's say She-Hulk is comically accurate to her series. How does Dan know She-Hulk is more accurate than Falcon and the Winter Soldier or WandaVision? He could say those shows change elements, but I could throw back that Intelligencia only shares the name with their comic counterpart and nothing more. I get that She-Hulk is the newest member of the over-hated female show/movie, but to play apologia like this is embarrassing.
@silverseer573
@silverseer573 Год назад
I'd maybe take her claims that her life was more horrible than his because of cat calls more serious if she wasn't talking to Bruce frikkin' Banner. You know, the guy who got experimented on by his father, had the same father murder his mother and try to murder him while he was a child and tried to murder him again when he was an adult, who spent years and years running away from everyone who he knew and loved because he was terrified he'd flip out and hurt them or the people hunting him would hurt them instead? Who ate his gun when he just couldn't take it anymore and the Hulk wouldn't allow him to die?
@Wizardbane-ev9zk
@Wizardbane-ev9zk 8 месяцев назад
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@starcatcher9699
@starcatcher9699 Год назад
Honestly? I would've been ok with a superhero slice of life detective show, a simple little series that shows Jen learning to control her powers and helping her cousin find his sons. I know I said this in the other video but seriously, the show could start with Jen going off to take down this criminal organization. Bruce begs her not to go since he believes that it's a trap meant to kill her to get to him, to let him or one of the other Avengers handle it. Jen is revealed to not be on great terms with her cousin due to his previous disappearance but she still promises to be careful. Jen goes and there's an ambush, she gets badly hurt so Bruce gives her a blood transfusion, turning her into She-Hulk. The rest of the series could then be about her juggling her powers, the investigation, and her everyday life. Jen is at first unwilling to work with her cousin or her powers but, over time, she reconciles with her cousin, finds that she's actually really comfortable in her She-Hulk form, and they find the criminals that are holding Bruce's sons, leading to an epic Hulk and She-Hulk team up as they fight the villains.
@lilylove925
@lilylove925 Год назад
The closest thing know of is Lucifer
@zemox2534
@zemox2534 Год назад
I must disagree. The MCU was ruined long before She-Hulk aired on TV.
@O1OO1O1
@O1OO1O1 Год назад
Why is Dan Slott saying such nonsense then?
@MrRobot1984
@MrRobot1984 Год назад
I’ve read John Byrne, Dan Slott, and even Mariko Tamaki’s run on She-Hulk. At no point in any of the books was she a twerking troll feeder. The Intelligencia weren’t a bunch of frat boy dude bros. Titania wasn’t an airhead. Pugg wasn’t Malibu’s most wanted.
@GR3GORY90
@GR3GORY90 Год назад
I started reading the John Byrne she hulk comic breaking the fourth wall, and it was very fun. There were so many lesser known heroes and villains. I really liked the space truckers specifically poppa wheelie and wide load. The villain Titania seemed more of a nuisance though. I liked the circus villains and the head people. If they actually put them in a good show that followed the source material, it would've been amazing.
@liljenborg2517
@liljenborg2517 Год назад
"There's a lot of people who never read the comics, will never read the comics, and this is the only She-Hulk they know." That is so sad. Marvel doesn't even seem to _know_ really what they've done by ruining their own brand, or worse, they think they know and are happy having "fixed" such a "sexist" character.
@feraldart
@feraldart Год назад
The "problem" with comic book characters is they have so many people working on them, so many different continuities that it is so open to interpretation. Even among fans, fun discussions can quickly devolve into pointless arguments over who is "right" about a character. So, even though I totally get what you are saying and I agree, it is really pointless to try to criticise this show's "accuracy" because it's too easy to get dragged into the weeds splitting hairs and such. Slott is just standing up for his professional colleagues, but he's not really wrong, just maybe not being open to a lot of true fans' opinions.
@lordainzooalgown1375
@lordainzooalgown1375 Год назад
I wouldn't be mad if Deadpool did this because it fits his character.
@Supersammy22_290
@Supersammy22_290 Год назад
Lol They turned her like a deadpool
@HLHReviews
@HLHReviews Год назад
Dan Slott only says that to appeal towards people who have never read the comics and they’ll see his interview and just think that what they did in the show is justified.
@thebatmanofneo-gotham5667
@thebatmanofneo-gotham5667 Год назад
Dan Slott's Twitter comment just simply left a bitter taste in my mouth. Like, dude, the fact that he's the one who read the She-Hulk comics and even wrote them himself means that he knows She-Hulk in the show ISN'T comic accurate; but yet, he has the gall to go on record to say that it is. For him to do that in a Tweet is very dishonest, misleading, and inauthentic. It frankly sounds to me like he was never a fan of the original She-Hulk comics he worked on, and that he wanted to write the character in the way he truly wanted her to be like. Of course, I have absolutely no evidence of this being true whatsoever, so take this proclomation with a grain of salt; but if it is true, then wow, have we been bamboozled.
@Webhead123
@Webhead123 Год назад
Byrne's run on Sensational She-Hulk is one of my favorite comic series ever. I was hoping beyond hope that the show would do at least *SOME* amount of justice to the character and what makes her so fun and interesting. Every episode was like descending ever deeper into the bowels of Hell, from which no semblance of the original character or idea could possibly ever recover. To say I was disappointed would be a hilariously tragic understatement. What an absolute waste of such an incredible property.
@andrewmclellan1623
@andrewmclellan1623 2 месяца назад
I really loved the comics- Jen was a wonderful character who balanced fun and responsibilities. Dan Slott did a great job with interesting legal questions like a privacy suit against the Watcher or questioning whether Eros' "make people love him" powers was ethically used. The fact that the show was so shallow and focused on identity politics was a huge disappointment
@mhc706
@mhc706 Год назад
"its the most comic accurate mcu show there is.... because i also write trash that insults real women just like the show!" -dan slot or whatever ive never heard of this guy
@turtato2155
@turtato2155 Год назад
That first courtroom made no sense cause Titania goes in and the guards try to stop her and the next scene the guards are just gone. Does she have snapping powers or something? Also the fact she wasn't arrested and was just let go for destroying a courtroom like what?
@scasimir1000
@scasimir1000 Год назад
Who said the sick of you talking about She-Hulk? If you feel this certain areas they can do better, I would love to hear your opinions
@Lawthefilmmaker
@Lawthefilmmaker Год назад
Rip it apart, you and your sis are authorizes on the subject.
@matityaloran9157
@matityaloran9157 Год назад
7:40, fortunately the cartoon The Incredible Hulk and She-Hulk is on Disney Plus. People can watch that for a good She-Hulk instead of this “show”.
@seancarroll136
@seancarroll136 Год назад
That's like everyone who's a DC Comic fan saying that 'League Of SuperPets is the most, comic-accurate movie', and it left me being so appalled by Warner Animation Group's lack of research. Which, ironically, HAPPENS TO OWN THE SUPERPET COMIC RIGHTS!
@ebaugh7320
@ebaugh7320 Год назад
How can he call it 'Comic Accurate' is it didn't get her origin story right?
@Vilgax00
@Vilgax00 4 месяца назад
What irritates me the most is She-Hulk has a higher budget than Kenobi show.
@qtindavis433
@qtindavis433 Год назад
thank you!!!
@jvts8916
@jvts8916 Год назад
It really says a lot when even the show's defenders mainly argued that She-Hulk would probably either be proven to be in wrong or admit she made a mistake in her outburst towards Banner. Turns out that no, we really were supposed to think everyday problems like getting catcalled was as bad as everything Bruce went through.
@doctorshane2086
@doctorshane2086 Год назад
This. All of this. agreed
@xmobius0ne
@xmobius0ne Год назад
John Byrne's run on She Hulk was way better than Dan the neckbeard's and is the version of the character that I wish the show was based on
@Adamguy2003
@Adamguy2003 Год назад
Hearing Slott puke out garbage like this really bums me out. I used to be something of a fan of his. I loved the 'Avengers: The Initiative' comic series he made in the late 2000s (Among other things, it introduced Komodo, who quickly became one of my favorite female superheroes). I personally met him at a convention in the mid- 2010s, and he seemed to be a pleasant enough fellow as we interacted. For him to have then so completely turned to the Dark Side in so many ways (As a writer, AND as a human being in general) over the last 3-4 years or so has made me so sad. It really is a shame.
@gtoyadhatagyab8013
@gtoyadhatagyab8013 Месяц назад
The thing about American comic book is that it can have so many authors, thus the inconsistency of the characters because there are so many versions of them. All I can say is, if he claims that MCU she hulk is as accurate as HIS version of she hulk in the comic, it means his she hulk is as shitty as the one in the MCU. Nuff' said.
@FF-tp7qs
@FF-tp7qs Год назад
I don't think Thanos motivation was good. The Snap was a stupid way to deal with overpopulation. He only does it once then gets rid of the Infinity Stones, the population of the universe would just double again in few decades, making what he did little more than a bandaid. At least trying to impress Death is an impressively psychotic reason for doing something psychotic like killing half of the universe.
@anthos332
@anthos332 Год назад
I thought about that, too, when Infinity War first came out. Everyone would call Thanos a simp and probably just laugh at him if they kept his original motivations from the comics.
@FF-tp7qs
@FF-tp7qs Год назад
@@anthos332 comic Thanos is the kind of villain who would ruin a regular nobody's birthday every year of their life since they were born just for kicks.
@scottbattaglia8595
@scottbattaglia8595 Год назад
You think the intelligenceia character is supposed to be Doomcock from the overlorddvd RU-vid channel? The mask is pretty similar and he has been clowning on Disney for a while?
@princessmarlena1359
@princessmarlena1359 4 месяца назад
Hello, fellow Overlord DVD viewer!
@lucastaylor417
@lucastaylor417 Год назад
As someone who was looking forward to expand my knowledge of She-Hulk with the show, I was so unfathomably disappointed in the execution of what could have been one of the more compelling shows in the MCU. It just felt like a season of fluff and the worst kind of girlboss tropes.
@thomashanson9173
@thomashanson9173 Год назад
If She Hulk is accurate to the comics, well those would be some pretty annoying pretentious comics. So if Slott is saying that to defend it, that would just mean those comics were horribly dated messes.
@acethethirdking
@acethethirdking Год назад
For She-Hulk to be comics accurate it would've had to have been fun. which it wasn't.
@Arthas30000
@Arthas30000 Год назад
Yeah, Dan Slott just showed everyone how big of an idiot he was. Love your takes on She-Hulk, as I never touched the comics. Keep up the great work!
@Spider-man2000-d8c
@Spider-man2000-d8c 11 минут назад
She doesn’t talk like or act like how she does in the sensational she hulk comic form 90s man bull and the wrecking crew were aren’t remotely comic accurate man-bull eats cows and is a actual savage monster and the wrecking crew don’t even have powers or their costumes Hulk and abomination act nothing like there self’s form 2008-2012 ect recently re watched she Hulk and it does not hold up I been reading the comic’s online the get a better understanding of she hulk character the mcu is unreliable for that look how they did mcu spider-man a lil Ironman fan boy in the comics he does really like Ironman
@cyonisboxbraids
@cyonisboxbraids Год назад
Oh I'm glad they didn't have Doctor Doom they would have slaughtered him. is a fate worse than death
@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho
@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho Год назад
She-Hulk has become the poster child for everything wrong with the MCU right now. Tonal inconsistency, laughable excuses for antagonists, wasted characters from the comics, attempts at excusing its problems with bad self-deprecating jokes, pitiful VFX that’s a product of making MCU content just to make content almost monthly, and female characters meant to come off as empowering that are horrendous role models for younger viewers and grating for those of us who prefer our superhero stories to be well-written. If this becomes the norm, then I can foresee the MCU going the way of Fox’s Marvel movies. Ironic when you consider why Disney bought Fox in the first place.
@geekyphoton5584
@geekyphoton5584 Год назад
Very enjoyable analysis, J!
@_S0LUS_
@_S0LUS_ Год назад
The double think for this show is brain melting: "It's not accurate to the comics and that's a good thing! But it is accurate to the comics, but actually it's allowed to be it's own thing, but actually it's the MOST COMICBOOK ACCURATE SHOW EVER! But actually it's not and demanding adaptations be faithful to the source material is stifling and problematic but actually it's completely faithful to the source material and you should know that! But actually!" etc
@drockwell1583
@drockwell1583 Год назад
Danny boy was just getting his paycheck from the mouse with his own toxicity.
@zakeermcconnell388
@zakeermcconnell388 Год назад
You and a fellow RU-vidr named Nasu are the only people I’ve seen that didn’t shit or crap on the story or the show in general of She-Hulk for being wOkE SjW pRoPoGaNdA or WAMEN. You two actually had good reasons for not liking the show. Thank you for not being a conservative weirdo.
@brandstongould8067
@brandstongould8067 Год назад
she-hulk being the most comic accurate show in the MCU and the writers not ripping the show straight from the comics isn’t mutually exclusive, probably take the advice from the main she hulk comic writer if he’s talking about character similarities, which is probably what he was referring to, not storylines.
@lucymiau5700
@lucymiau5700 Год назад
It was the simplest thing to make a good fun Show from this source material. Instead thee went the cheapest way and ruined it like all the other MCU-TV-Shows on Disney+.
@wallygator92
@wallygator92 11 месяцев назад
She Hulk was much more likable in the comics.
@bestianegra3725
@bestianegra3725 Год назад
Making her a meme character to make fun of fans is honestly disrespectful to the original comic she hulk
@commonsense5199
@commonsense5199 Год назад
5:50 *Dan Sloth,* sir if MCU She-Hulk show is accurate then they would’ve use Titania’s Origin story that you created, You lazy fool. Self awareness and meta humor does not make the show good. And it stinks of Rick and Morty. 6:02 I really wish the New Warriors show wasn’t cancelled cause I believe their version of Mr Immortal is better than She Hulk's version of Mr. Immortal. J, I do know how you feel. Because She Hulk is the only show I was looking forward to in this phase. But sadly it in hands of writers who don’t care about she hulk. And I’m feeling more MCU burnout. I’m Just waiting for Guardians 3. Dan Sloth was just trolling everyone on twitter(which ironic because she Hulk show is about trolls) and he went on a blocking spree. I lost respect for Dan Slott for awhile now started with that documentary that he lazy to finish his comic by deadline. And now I call him Dan Sloth and not buying his comics. 7:29 I saw an article from CBR, “Jameela Jamil hopes to bring a more Comic Accurate to Titania to MCU”. Jamil’s said she love Dan Slott’s version as well. With the bad impression from the show and the rumors she better cross those fingers.
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