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Main Topic: If Wrath of the machine came back with Fallen enemies instead of SIVA ones, would you accept it that way?
Vosik and Aksis would of course remain SIVA. The responses were very interesting so I figured this would be a spicy way to start these community videos. These videos are more so meant for you to have on in the background and to give everyone a chance to be heard, so they won't be quite as heavily edited. I hope you guys enjoy and, if you do, we can look forward to doing more of these in the coming weeks!
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This video is purely meant for entertainment. :)
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Some music used is from "Super Meat Boy" and Team Meat
Some music is from "Destiny 2"
Outro song is "Spoiled R0tten (Remix)"
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Destiny 2, Forge Mode, Theater Mode, SIVA, King's Fall, Darkness, Pyramids, New Subclasses, New Destination, Black Fleet, New weapon type, New Rarity, Season 17, Gaurdian Games, Solar 3.0, Arc 3.0, Crucible, Trials of Osiris, Savathun, The Witness, Traveler, Destiny Lore, The Final Shape, TWAB, Hunter, Titan, Warlock, commendations, New Season, Gambit, Drifter, Solo Dungeon guide, Last Wish, Riven, Oryx, Dreadnaught, touch of malice, king's fall, taken king, games, Neomuna, Root of Nightmares, Nezarec, conditional finality, animation,
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@heroscout7533
@heroscout7533 Год назад
If wrath comes back, praying that the exotic is khovostov 2.0 🙏
@VyVydoesMeth
@VyVydoesMeth Год назад
they said khovostov wont come back as exotic
@vogavation
@vogavation Год назад
Young wolfs howl could also be the exotic
@heroscout7533
@heroscout7533 Год назад
@@VyVydoesMeth Fiddle sticks. Welp, hopefully it's the young wolf sword XD
@justsomedude1593
@justsomedude1593 Год назад
It has to be a siva version tho right
@externalboss9404
@externalboss9404 Год назад
I hope not, it should be a gun everyone should have.
@ineedagoodyoutubename1545
@ineedagoodyoutubename1545 Год назад
6:47 you got them mixed up. The descendant (darker) vex come from the future. Precursor (white & gold) are past. Also they didn't add back the Venus vex either.
@anothermetaphor7586
@anothermetaphor7586 Год назад
There are D1 vex goblins in vog2
@LiveNishikiyamaReaction
@LiveNishikiyamaReaction Год назад
@@anothermetaphor7586 YES! FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE NOTICED IT
@totallyoriginaltbox
@totallyoriginaltbox Год назад
@@LiveNishikiyamaReaction thank god people have noticed this, I thought I was going crazy whenever I tried pointing it out
@Toadsmoothie
@Toadsmoothie Год назад
Yeah realized in editing, you right
@patrickcox3146
@patrickcox3146 Год назад
of course a vex would know about vex
@thebestpilot7
@thebestpilot7 Год назад
Honestly outside of the animations the devil splicers are on the easier side of the models they need to remake. You only really need 4 models outside of the bosses: Dreg, Vandal, Captain, and Servitor. The environmental models seem so much more daunting to remake. (Also they can bring back Crota almost whenever they want cause most of the important aspects of the raid have been reused in some in D2)
@supercato9613
@supercato9613 Год назад
The Shanks?
@thebestpilot7
@thebestpilot7 Год назад
@@supercato9613 The shanks aren’t super necessary imo compared to the rest
@ScrawnyClownSnatch
@ScrawnyClownSnatch Год назад
they would also need to re-model there weapons, grenades and their respective particle effects as I'm pretty sure they don't exist in the game yet. Though its possible outbreak perfected's bullet effect may be a decent fit for the gun effects.
@thebestpilot7
@thebestpilot7 Год назад
@@ScrawnyClownSnatch I was sort of including that in the enemy models but that is a fair point. Although those should be simpler cause the weapons were remodels. Edit: looking at screenshots of them with their weapons it looks like the devil splicers just used standard fallen unit weapons
@fab5haus
@fab5haus Год назад
Too much work for them. The hive and vex were even easier and they didn’t do it for either of the reprised raids 😢
@volcasona3820
@volcasona3820 Год назад
I just want siva themed armor. Gotta rock that infection look anywhere I go 😎
@bandithm7784
@bandithm7784 Год назад
my destiny 1 guardians will never take off the wotm armor, and if it came back itd be exactly the same. in my opinion theyre the best armor sets bungie has ever made
@raptormaverick4774
@raptormaverick4774 Год назад
Bungie kept making SIVA themed ornaments for several seasons up to this point. Plus there’s no way they would gloss over the Season of the Plague fan made event. Not bringing back Wrath of The Machine would be wasted potential
@hotalmond9570
@hotalmond9570 Год назад
Eating pancakes while watching this rn
@volcasona3820
@volcasona3820 Год назад
*blows up pancakes with MIND*
@zorpglorp
@zorpglorp Год назад
@@volcasona3820 *Restores pancakes with MIND*
@tomatocultivator6330
@tomatocultivator6330 Год назад
@@zorpglorp *EATS PANCAKES WITH MIND*
@gloob70
@gloob70 Год назад
I’m eating waffles
@keymstr3110
@keymstr3110 Год назад
​@@gloob70 like a true legend
@julianvela3712
@julianvela3712 Год назад
The shiny, Precursor Vex are actually from the past. The rusty, Descendants are the Future Vex. It’s due to how their metal frames would “rust” over time. Not that it really made a difference to the argument here.
@nicolasfernandeztaboada1656
@nicolasfernandeztaboada1656 11 месяцев назад
I mean their name is "Precursor" vex
@norskbjorn8484
@norskbjorn8484 Год назад
Bringing back siva variant strikes, like the siva version of sepiks could be a good way to use siva assets other than WOTM while also not making a siva story (and they could use the sepiks redux music for the non nightfall version)
@WGG-01
@WGG-01 Год назад
Bungie 100% never said they are going to bring back all of the destiny 1 raids before any destiny 2 ones. It has never been brought up on any post, video, or article that I have found and I look at this topic a ton and people have been going back to the original post about reprised raids and there isn't anything there that says this or that the reprised raid will even be a d1 raid and has been clarified that it could be a destiny 2 raid not specifically a destiny 1 raid.
@Loderyod
@Loderyod Год назад
I would love for Wrath to come back, but honestly, from a story perspective it should be Levi. Leviathan is hovering over Moon rn and that begs for questions from new lights
@littleboxes9662
@littleboxes9662 Год назад
I'm not sure if I'm remembering correctly but I think one of the devs mentioned that if Crota's end would come back (in it's original state) it'd be in the form of a dungeon so if they where to massively rework Crota's end to bring it up to current raid standards it be a comparable workload to creating a Wrath of the Machine raid.
@alexkuteshevskiy2915
@alexkuteshevskiy2915 Год назад
I seen the opposite, someone said that they wouldn't make reissued raid as dungeon
@astralsync
@astralsync Год назад
They said they wouldnt make it due to it being in its current state basically a dungeon so it wouldnt come back
@benfawefwaeffwaefawfdekk2080
They've made no statement on crota as a dungeon. dmg said he is aware that was a thing people wanted and said it might be hard, but didnt say anything about what it would return as.
@benfawefwaeffwaefawfdekk2080
@@astralsync Incorrect. They just said that they wanted a big raid for witch queen and crota isnt a big raid.
@mooseboi9987
@mooseboi9987 Год назад
If I remember correctly from Rise of Iron, we might have destroyed the chamber, but the splicers still had the tech they got beforehand. So if they stumble across a warmind bunker, they might be able to restore SIVA. But considering that bungie themselves said that it ended in Rise of Iron, this probably won't happen.
@wendiiig0-Youtube
@wendiiig0-Youtube Год назад
Some of the vex in d2 vog are from d1 But you have to really look at them for a second
@th3_zombie058
@th3_zombie058 Год назад
The exotic could be the young wolf sword that you get from Saladin
@basedmarlon
@basedmarlon Год назад
That shit was ass
@houstong1232
@houstong1232 Год назад
I have a perfect way to bring SIVA and SIVA fallen back without it being used story wise: Update Dares of Eternity to have splicer fallen, and replace the final fallen boss be replaced with that one strike boss from rise of iron that uses the torn out eye of that ogre.
@witchyoak3206
@witchyoak3206 Год назад
What would the exotic even be, we already got, Outbreak. But Crota would give us Necrogasm.
@nottrey1029
@nottrey1029 Год назад
i like this vid format the funny vids and then the more discussion vids breaking them up. Great work Toad!
@Surpirate
@Surpirate Год назад
I like this style of video, really interesting to see all the different community povs
@nodcast-
@nodcast- Год назад
I like this style of video. Seems easier on you to compile, and discussion topics are always healthy for the community as a whole
@Achroon1
@Achroon1 Год назад
This was great love the community stile videos!
@Mav04954
@Mav04954 Год назад
Glad I could help with your response about the Vex, sure I wasn’t the only one but happy to be here
@FunkyMsWimpy
@FunkyMsWimpy Год назад
I'm sick asf in my bed, flooded in nausea and pain, but watching this (while sipping Pepto) made me giggle and feel much better. In my head. I'm still in a lot of pain lol
@Toadsmoothie
@Toadsmoothie Год назад
Get better soon!
@somahagymasy5341
@somahagymasy5341 Год назад
Dude I love this new discussion style video format, keep up the good work you are fun to watch 🎉
@peebootyms9971
@peebootyms9971 Год назад
I really enjoyed these video, I’m excited to see more like it
@greenseas13
@greenseas13 Год назад
Community videos are super cool, reminds me of old school RU-vid in the best way. Keep it up.
@littleolbear
@littleolbear Год назад
To be completely honest, I would rather not have Wrath return than have a scorn version of it. Scorn has always been my least liked enemy type, and I feel like it’s the complete opposite of what Siva is (think Technology vs Barbarism) and what the feel/aesthetic/vibe of Wrath is
@archieh-d1828
@archieh-d1828 Год назад
Hey just so you know, almost all of the D1 reprised stuff was JUST for Kings Fall last August, there’s very little info on anything about this reprised raid other than there will be a raid. Imo i want, and it would be better, if it was WotM, but it feels more likely to be Levi, what with almost every Levi asset being in game post Shadowkeep with Haunted. Also, combined arms it LITERALLY THE MOST FREE WIN BUNGIE COULD EVER HAVE, as it requires almost no balancing at all, cus that’s kinda the point.
@archieh-d1828
@archieh-d1828 Год назад
Also, I think it was “we want to bring back all the big raids”, so not necessary’s wrath.
@salmonbamminfish2925
@salmonbamminfish2925 Год назад
Always a good day when you upload
@SolarDraws
@SolarDraws Год назад
Something I thought (and idk if this'll be brought up) is that with Strand, we got unraveling rounds which really reminded me of the Nanites Outbreak can spawn in. Just something I saw and thought was siva like.
@PT-xg2qy
@PT-xg2qy Год назад
The new ornament for outbreak perfected (WOtM raid exotic if you didn’t know already) is called archon prime which i think is a clear teaser for wrath coming back. The final boss is literally called axis archon prime.
@dusk-en4zg
@dusk-en4zg Год назад
The problem with a raid exotic tied to Wrath is the fact that it also hints at Leviathan because of Acrius. I really want to believe Wrath comes back this year i feel like their going to stay with the vibe of the year which is calus’ army. Still hoping it’s Wrath praying on my hands and knees🤞.
@Captain_Yata
@Captain_Yata Год назад
I think they'd just take Acrius out of the kiosk though, although of course I don't know for certain.
@Bennieboy918
@Bennieboy918 Год назад
@@Captain_Yata ot was a quest though
@Captain_Yata
@Captain_Yata Год назад
@Bennieboy Oh it was? I thought you just got it for beating Leviathan lol, I'm dumb
@Bennieboy918
@Bennieboy918 Год назад
@@Captain_Yata yeah one of the quest steps was literally just “beat calus”
@YuriG03042
@YuriG03042 Год назад
God, I was so happy for the Vex Mythoclast clip. I haven't done 117 runs to get mine, but I've done near to 60, including Flawless and the whole title, with Vex literally being my last thing to unlock said title. I can understand the pain that man must have been through.
@jacobhauka5571
@jacobhauka5571 Год назад
I think a SIVA heavy machine gun would be really neat for a raid exotic instead of another kinetic weapon. Edit: thanks for saying my last name correctly in the video :)
@heroscout7533
@heroscout7533 Год назад
I would love a Siva mg. They're my favorite heavy type
@transgender_F-117
@transgender_F-117 Год назад
6:52 they *did* bring back the vex models from D1, if you compare the crowns, the reprised vex have smaller crowns while the D2 vex have wider crowns
@The_Biff
@The_Biff Год назад
I think bungie might struggle to make new siva fallen ( AI and all) along with a brand new exotic with an entire raid that isn’t tied to a DLC unfortunately Imo they will either go all out with new Siva fallen or might use the DSC fallen with maybe a red theming and not a white one Let’s hope for the best though!:)
@The_Biff
@The_Biff Год назад
They might make a raid key ngl It would definitely let them put more effort into reprised raids even though it would be annoying
@offbrandbox9497
@offbrandbox9497 Год назад
​@@The_BiffThe community would riot
@The_Biff
@The_Biff Год назад
They sure would
@AlphariusOmegon-go3tf
@AlphariusOmegon-go3tf Год назад
How about this: like in Grasp or King's Fall, it starts off with regular Fallen with a few Siva variants (like captains) and as you get farther into it, more and more Siva appears? Probs not, but I think that it'd be a good way of working it out.
@YuriG03042
@YuriG03042 Год назад
What's the point? You will have to remake the characters, regardless if you use them 5 or 500 times. That doesn't matter at all
@carlosraffaele7144
@carlosraffaele7144 Год назад
wasn't there a rumor that all Levi raids will be coming back via a bundle? a friend of mine would not shut up about it. he was like: " I can't believe they are making all Levi raids paid content including og raid thats so stupid!!! " I was like bro wtf are you talking about focus on the nightfall you keep dyeing!
@carlosraffaele7144
@carlosraffaele7144 Год назад
P.S i live under a rock so if its some bs or some of those leaks he was talking about then my bad and i am sorry that i spoiled something like that
@totallyoriginaltbox
@totallyoriginaltbox Год назад
if that leak is true, you wouldn't have to pay for them again. That "bundle" would probably just be the same thing as the "Victory over The Vault" bundle where it is just transmog stuff and some shaders that fit with the raid theme
@benfawefwaeffwaefawfdekk2080
Its confirmed fake, though that doesnt mean levi isnt a potential candidate
@DonoZ420
@DonoZ420 Год назад
Been watching since before 10k and loved these vids glad their back. Love the content
@Toadsmoothie
@Toadsmoothie Год назад
@spartsyy
@spartsyy Год назад
I could be wrong, but I think I remember reading something about Bungie talking about introducing a new SIVA themed exotic for a reprised WotM due to Outbreak being back in D2 already.
@kapkapi
@kapkapi Год назад
This video was the reason i was late for work but thats okay because it was a new smoothie video
@Astro_Doomslayer
@Astro_Doomslayer Год назад
16:02 that’s what I think because season of the deep aka a hive season would have probably have crota’s end as a dungeon
@Toadsmoothie
@Toadsmoothie Год назад
Very true
@Harry-tb4cy
@Harry-tb4cy Год назад
One thing Toad is you mention a sidearm exotic like osteo Strega but that is basically final warning except either kenetic or arc depending on the slot
@markmcclain3347
@markmcclain3347 Год назад
I've said it before and I'll say it again... Either just say the area has been quarantined this whole time or just make it a "simulation"
@Gtxgoldennugget
@Gtxgoldennugget Год назад
Ong bro you spitting fax
@markmcclain3347
@markmcclain3347 Год назад
@@Gtxgoldennugget ong😂 if they can quarantine the Outbreak Perfected which literally still uses live SIVA nanites, they can say that the area over there is still infested
@Atraks-1_MILF_Exo
@Atraks-1_MILF_Exo Год назад
19:36 fun fact: you can actually get down there to the chest without loading out of hellmouth by just going out of bounds from a small hole that I've found.
@stockimagedoggo8839
@stockimagedoggo8839 Год назад
15:52 it also felt odd getting a hive(or taken) raid during a fallen season.
@Toadsmoothie
@Toadsmoothie Год назад
Guardians: lmao pirates Oryx: *I have returned.*
@mysteriouspirate8611
@mysteriouspirate8611 Год назад
Dude I love this video and everything in this video make a lot of sense I really think it’s gonna be Crota end raid coming back 💖 to destiny 2
@helpfuller5680
@helpfuller5680 Год назад
I think if wrath was to come back it’s exotic would be young wolf’s howl, the exotic sword from the rise of iron campaign
@YuriG03042
@YuriG03042 Год назад
They said new exotic, that would just be bringing back an old one instead
@khvostov9263
@khvostov9263 Год назад
The intresting thing is (if i remember correct) siva was actually designed in Destiny 2 engine which is why rise of iron was exclusive to the at the time next gen consoles so siva splicers would theoretically work in Destiny 2
@Grim_9
@Grim_9 Год назад
Great video! Keep it up!
@turtletitangaming8620
@turtletitangaming8620 Год назад
and if they added back the SIVA stuff, they could make a heroic version of the "Devil's Lair" strike and potentially bring back other vaulted strikes such as "the Abomination heist" and "The Shadow Theif" strikes (they could even make them Nightmare versions if ppl wanted them to be cannon)
@jacksonfougeron7438
@jacksonfougeron7438 Год назад
lmao "Dreg's Promise BUT red". Caught me off gaurd laughing out loud. Personally I always wanted a handcannon to be the raid exotic.
@boylover365
@boylover365 Год назад
Scrota: Sack of Oryx actually made me spit out my drink so thank you 🤣
@dezman311
@dezman311 Год назад
Hoping that when they reintroduce the raid ornaments when the final shape drops as things stand it’s still not worthwhile to do master raid runs fully, just hop in for weekly challenge on chars, run final boss and spend raid coins for different roles
@giles.9862
@giles.9862 Год назад
We really need a season on nessus where failsafe actually does stuff and heavily involves siva, as there is siva on the exodus black.
@dragonfly3860
@dragonfly3860 Год назад
Thanks for sharing your thoughts about wrath and about SIVA in general. I am a diehard for that whole aesthetic and I loved it to death. Wrath of the Machine was my first raid that I ever did in D1 as I was always a bit of a solo player at the time. However, my brother ran me through it with his clan and honestly, I don't regret never playing the other originals. I have played the remasters since they've released but Wrath will always be my raid. I understand if it never comes to see the light of day again just as SIVA has kind of been done away with. I would relish every moment of it though would it come to pass. Rose colored glasses or not, I believe remembering something out of love and sheer enjoyment is better than remembering something for being a drag.
@pizzabonescool
@pizzabonescool Год назад
18:40 I think it would be funny. As unlikely as it would be I thought of a funny exotic concept which was a sidearm that would change gun variants the more kills you got with it. It would start as a sidearm and then upgrade to say like a SMG and then eventually an auto rifle. It would never happen because that seems both impractical and really intensive but I think the idea of a SIVA gun that literally enhanced itself as you used it would be fun.
@Justarandomhere
@Justarandomhere Год назад
I think like, an exotic machine gun with siva could be cool like outbreak perfected on crack, outbreak unleashed if you will, or like the weapon of aksis or voksis like we start shooting their projectiles, could be neat
@astrix1200
@astrix1200 Год назад
i wish that the cosmodrome would have been like they are right now in d1 with the snow looking stuff
@monopolyyy
@monopolyyy Год назад
I want a 6v6 competitive raid thing where its two teams competing like gambit
@SirCallywag
@SirCallywag Год назад
The knight at the oryx encounter is called a vessel of oryx and is a variant of a light eater knight in the same encounter
@Toadsmoothie
@Toadsmoothie Год назад
Thanks lol
@SirCallywag
@SirCallywag Год назад
No problem, I grinded that encounter non stop and have it engraved in my memory
@iluvboothill
@iluvboothill Год назад
In terms of exotics for Wrath, either the Rise of Iron sword or exotic Khovostov would be fun and fit the original release
@AznJsn82091
@AznJsn82091 Год назад
Wrath of the Machine is hands down my favorite raid in all of Destiny. I haven't found that love and passion for any of the Destiny 2 raids as much as I did for Wrath of the Machine. The return of this raid would be the sole reason I come back to play Destiny 2.
@Ranthop
@Ranthop Год назад
When WotM makes its return, looking at the line-up current Warmind weaponry, I think it could be a scout, maybe a sniper or aggressive linear.
@kyson4568
@kyson4568 Год назад
Old stories need to end for new ones to begin. If they bring it back, what if they change some part of it and make them a new villain that we have to deal with throughout the future. Maybe Eramis starts using S.I.V.A?
@machailavie9562
@machailavie9562 Год назад
What if S.I.V.A. had something to do with the darkness?
@Blanktester685
@Blanktester685 Год назад
remake raids aren't attached to the story.
@nacholibre8009
@nacholibre8009 Год назад
It’s all the leviathan raid the eveverse stuff tied to it was leaked to release next season
@TheBreakFastProjectYT
@TheBreakFastProjectYT Год назад
On the topic of the crota raid bungie said they wanted to really take their time with it, so we probably won’t see it until mid season of Final shape which will tie it to the story since and this is a huge leap i feel like Savathuan would need to come back in the story for it to really feel like a proper conclusion. In regards to the Siva Raid. The best option which would be the hardest would be to use Siva as an excuse to bring in a new enemy type. Like Zombie Guardians or Parasite type monsters. Giving a big branch way to future stories and a new subclass. Realistically theres not much Bungie can do if the want to stay true to the Siva story. Theres really only two ways they can go the previously mentioned “new” enemy type or just throwing away the experience for the sake of “story” Really enjoying the videos man. Keep it up. Much love
@LightCrib2
@LightCrib2 Год назад
10:58 He turns on the aimbot in the background lmao
@geisterjager3607
@geisterjager3607 Год назад
Shot in the dark and a very out of pocket idea, but Croats end with a little bit of lucent hive in there, kinda throw something new and combine past and present
@baskimo5346
@baskimo5346 Год назад
The raid exotic for wotm is Speculated to be young wolf's howl
@flister8701
@flister8701 Год назад
I think it’s Crotas end. Bungie hinted at also releasing a returning exotic and we already have outbreak. Necrochasm could be a random drop or quest after completion. They already have the Hive assets like Kings Fall and it doesn’t impede story. I’d personally love to see a revamped Crotas End where we don’t have the ease of the bridge skip and ledge strat. If it does return I hope to actually be able to fight a boss worthy of being called The Son Of Oryx, but that’s just my opinion
@uzan6893
@uzan6893 Год назад
I have a theory but I’m not really sure about it, they might bring back scourge of the past because in the LF trailer 6 guardians spawned in neomuna so it might be a hint(a city same vibes as scouring), but some sources say that bungie themselves haven’t decided on what raid is coming back.
@ImTheLetterP
@ImTheLetterP Год назад
SIVA fallen (vandals and captains specifically) also had smaller crit boxes. If you hit the black helmet, it would count as a body shot
@0wingman69
@0wingman69 Год назад
I hope they bring it back just because it looks, and sounds really cool. Plus I’m curious of what the new exotic weapon would be
@imnotitalian8522
@imnotitalian8522 Год назад
In d2 vog there are copied d1 assets outside of the playable area. Additionally, in the 1 encounter area d1 vex will sometimes spawn. This means that it may be possible for them to literally copy and paste siva assets.
@bren.nan_
@bren.nan_ Год назад
But the thing is: outbreak perfected exists, so there's gotta be SIVA code in the game
@s_t_r_a_y_e_d
@s_t_r_a_y_e_d Год назад
I hope they do bring it back, the assets could be used to make a final SIVA/Rasputin season where the Vanguard is in such a dire situation we decide to dig up SIVA with Rasputin's remnants in tow to try and tame it and/or link it to Neomuna as the predecessor of Neomuni Nanites and make it story relevant somehow.
@premiumprism144
@premiumprism144 Год назад
I can see a Khovostov exotic version that spawns a SIVA Core that can be thrown at enemies that explode into SIVA Nanites, It is kind of like a Ruinous Effigy, but Khovostov remaster Also, Outbreak Perfected has a difference in the Nanites, I noticed that they now travel instead of a Cloud of Particulals... I'm talking about when no enemies to kill afterward
@michaelwood3019
@michaelwood3019 Год назад
the exotics gonna be an aggressive frame secondary gl with swarm grenades
@benfawefwaeffwaefawfdekk2080
One thing I saw that might move the needle - While it might be a little odd for two of the reprised raids to be hive back to back (aka back to back hive f2p raids), in terms of raids in general if leviathan came back it would be back to back cabal raids. Nezarec is shadow legion themed and Calus is loyalist themed, aka proto-shadow legion. Seems like it might be pretty repetitive to me, at least, for both the power level relevant raids to be the same enemy type. They also have been remastering a fair bit of crota. Besides the moon and him being reused as a nightmare, the lightfall strike has the lanturn mechanic. Its probably easier to say what about crota isnt in the game if they wanted to pull that trigger.
@crusher5728
@crusher5728 Год назад
I do think if it were between wrath and crota’s end it would have to be crota because it’s gonna be called season of the deep which sounds hive related
@twelved4983
@twelved4983 Год назад
Ok I completely forgot this conversation was even happening, so I was surprised to find my comment in the vid lol. However, my point does still stand. Thanks for including me, Toad!
@Lonewolf33619
@Lonewolf33619 Год назад
I love the music in wraith
@sadoonlittle
@sadoonlittle Год назад
I feel like the exotic would be young wolfs howl due to it being what we get at the end of rise of iron. That’s what I think the exotic would be for the raid
@ER1C03
@ER1C03 Год назад
Remember, SIVA was transported in the exodus black and other colony ships. It’s still out there somewhere. But Bungie did say SIVA is done but I hold a lil hope 😢
@Fallen........
@Fallen........ Год назад
Pretty sure the entirety of nessus was gonna be covered in siva you can probably find some concept art about it also
@kronixgamer6529
@kronixgamer6529 Год назад
Back before King's Fall got reprised, I used to jokingly tell my clan mates that the next reprised raid is going to be Crota's End & the exotic linked to it will be the Necrochasm. Now as time has moved on, this seems more likely than WoTM. Think about it, Crota's mechanics are pretty much ready in the game thanks to Dares Of Eternity and the Nightmare hunt/final campaign mission for Shadowkeep. Maybe I'm just clutching at straws, but it's worth a thought.
@jjkm2945
@jjkm2945 Год назад
Although I know it's unlikely at this point, I still think a SIVA subclass could provide some really cool game play elements, such as some way of marking targets with nanites, or creating intractable objects with SIVA. Maybe some sort of super that acts similar to silence and squall, but with SIVA that would infect enemies and for a short period of time, and make them fight for you. Also, for Crucible, I would go as chaotic as possible! I would love to see a Destiny hero shooter, something along the lines of Overwatch, but with Cayde, Zavala, and other destiny characters.
@dezman311
@dezman311 Год назад
Having innate powers over elements is much cooler than tech augmentation I have never understood someone who wants a Siva subclass such a waste
@jjkm2945
@jjkm2945 Год назад
@@dezman311 For me, the appeal has always come from certain specific aspects of the game that I love, such as outbreak perfected, gjallerhorn, or skip grenades, and I would love something that combines all those cool SIVA esque things into one subclass. Knowing Bungie, they'll probably hit it out of the park with whatever subclass comes next, SIVA or not
@twistedlogic9739
@twistedlogic9739 Год назад
You know what else the SIVA variants did that increased the challenge, apart from the seekers when you headshot them? Those goddamn grenades the dregs used to throw. They made dregs so much of a threat that they caused an embarrassing number of wipes to my team in the start of the siege engine encounter
@mythical7411
@mythical7411 Год назад
I hope crotas end comes back the armor was so cool and I like crota a lot for some reason
@dezman311
@dezman311 Год назад
Based, Crota armor especially the aot versions were objectively the best
@mythical7411
@mythical7411 Год назад
@@dezman311 agreed
@sladevalen2120
@sladevalen2120 Год назад
Crocadilius sounds like a Default Dance enthusiast
@Boosted1-
@Boosted1- Год назад
I hope wrath comes back because I am in love with outbreak perfected, also it is a way to re introduce Rasputin for the seraph misssion coming back in season 22
@yharonscalamity7772
@yharonscalamity7772 Год назад
my only issue for wrath to come back is what the raid exotic is since we already have outbreak. This is a reasoning they would have to not go with wrath on top of the other reasons (enemy type, environment). They would be inclined to do crota's end since we have majority of the assets already in the game.
@Genitalia-slicer-man
@Genitalia-slicer-man Год назад
Hear me out we get an exotic khovostov that comes with a quest that through doing puzzles in the raid so that you can unlock different attachments for it kind of like revision zero but they are changeable from an gunsmith screen in your inventory
@TwoFaced200
@TwoFaced200 Год назад
Siva GL that causes AOE like aksises siva swarms with damage over time where it gains damage as more swarms hit the target
@Masker-_-
@Masker-_- Год назад
Bungie has been hinting at siva, there are multiple exotic ornaments that are siva based, including outbreak
@Moogie.
@Moogie. Год назад
2:55 i feel as if lightfall is more focused around the witness/viel/final shape instead of calus.
@Blanktester685
@Blanktester685 Год назад
if only we knew what any of those were...
@cephalongoof
@cephalongoof Год назад
They brought the specific vog vex back, I don’t see why they wouldn’t bring back siva fallen, especially when they could upgrade the devils lair strike Edit: there are specific vog vex besides decendant and precursor
@soupster5009
@soupster5009 Год назад
Same model that’s been used tho, the siva fallen had unique mechanics and designs
@cephalongoof
@cephalongoof Год назад
@@soupster5009 that’s true, hones the talk about this has me hyped for wrath, although i highly doubt it’ll return
@OSDarko
@OSDarko Год назад
Which are those specific vex you're talking about?
@cephalongoof
@cephalongoof Год назад
@@OSDarko there are specific goblins, mainly seen in the conflux encounter, it’s not an outrageous difference, but at least it was something unique besides bosses and gorgons
@apexfortheboys2599
@apexfortheboys2599 Год назад
If the next season is as spectacled it will have to do with savathun and reviving her then it would make sense for Croats end to come back next season
@astralsync
@astralsync Год назад
Bungie has never stated that they will bring back raids in order my theory for the Reprised raid is that SoTP will return due to the raid shader being bergusia night is the only raid shader that Shada-1 can/does sell at this current point in time
@androiddefence9477
@androiddefence9477 Год назад
Not to sound picky or anything, but you mistaken the precursor vex and decendant vex design wise. The precursor vex are the white and gold with the blue lights (I know people mistaken them because they look clean and futuristic but that's not the case). The Decendant vex are the green and brown variants with the yellow eyes and disk-shaped heads. Also one thing to mention that Bungie has added in Vault of glass is that there's one special enemy that shows up randomly among the droves of vex in the first encounter (confluxes), a single regular goblin with a line rifle that has the original D1 Vex design look! It's crazy how people miss a small detail but really cool too
@Cyade-6_
@Cyade-6_ Год назад
I did it this week on d1 so I want it to back over crota because it had more mechanics and was just a more fun raid unless they add more to crota witch would be a lot of work
@alexA.7529
@alexA.7529 Год назад
I'd be fine with Crota coming back, cause honestly I used the weapons from it like 90% of the time. Also using Hunger of Crota and Swordbreaker on Aksis again would very much be coming full circle. All I need is Tlaloc now
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