Is Star Wars BETTER Without George Lucas? 

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Facts

Rogue one.

Obi-Wan Kenobi can you make a video about Bobby and Jakory Strickland

Lonas not because it’s a prequel, because it’s a better movie

This comment was made not long before prequel memes starting growing in popularity, so now they're sorta loved again, but in a different way to the other movies.

DoofusBoy it’s been so long I forgot I made this

Alex Gregg "Yet everyone's favorite sith is in it." I don't recall seeing Darth Vader...

NickDaGeek Does things Sure he is. He won a pod race. Besides by far in most polls Maul is the favorite. I'm very disappointed he never got that game. It looked mostly done too.

Alex Gregg That was Anakin Skywalker...

NickDaGeek Does things Same person. He was destined to be Vader, because of his fear (thus the shadow scene in the first film). He was also destined to become Anakin again and bring balance to the force which he did when he killed the emperor and sacrificed himself. Sure there are plot holes here and there through all seven films, but his story is pretty solid. Still better than the Hobbit making us sit through three prequels for eagles to save the day again amiright? lol

I remember Jesse, JP, Adam Koebel, and inControl talking about this on the old Fandom episode they did for Force Awakens. If I remember correctly, the consensus is that Maul is cool, and his lightsaber fight is wonderfully choreographed, but he has almost no lines or screentime in the movie and, outside of the fight, is a boring one dimensional sub-antagonist.(Not counting Robo-legs Maul in this) The fight being at the very end tricks the viewer into forgetting about the rest of the glaring problems the movie had.

Travis Fischer I thought so too

Well that's just ridiculous. I take it all back.

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Mote141 -themselfs and the real world. and anything that has nothing to do with star wars.

Don't forget that Star Wars fans also hates other Star Wars fans! :D

HMM How could I miss this? This is probably the most hated subject by SW fans! :D

You forgot sand and Jar Jar. Those are the most crucial.

Mote141 and the special editions

No not really

Yeah I hear it!

Hahaha Hahaha Hahaha No

Yep

I thought the same thing

ikr

Rien B. What are you talking about its "Grandma's homemade iced tea"

Nope, still looks like pee. It looks like a peejar you use on a gaming marathon.

i was trying to make a Batman v Superman reference

its jarate

Rien B. It's Aunty Betty peach Tea from B.M & S.M

Hey he was greedy and sold his only real sucessfull creation... for MONEY. Someone who does and comes back later whiney deseerves no feelings of sorry.

XentorAntarix He gave most of the money he got to charity...

wow. All ritch people do, to can feel a bit better. Or to get Tax advantages.

He has adopted children, he went on a 16 year hiatus to raise his daughter after his wife divorced him for being so busy making Episode 6, he has literally given millions to charities fighting against child abuse, but nope he is automatically a bad person because he "raped your childhood", you troll.

StarshotDirector Amen to that

Hell I like the Prequels...thanks in part to the Clone Wars cartoon series, which thanks to that filling in most of the gaps has made the movies more enjoyable....while the sequels only continue to get worse each week.

The overall plot of the prequels was pretty solid. Excellent mastermind-ing by Palps and the politics were legit. But they were just presented so badly. The dialogue was probably the real killer, but the special effects were a bit overdone. I don't know how an evil genius masterminding both sides of a war as part of a decades-long plan to destroy his jedi rivals and get himself elected as galactic emperor (and get people to like it!) was made boring... but somehow they made that boring.

I loved the prequels before it was cool

You do get Lucas purists in the star wars fandom but unlike with the Tolkien fans the Lucas purists completely ignore the contributions made by others towards star wars (except the guy who did clone wars and rebels but they completely forget that a lot of what made the original trilogy great didn't come from Lucas or was because he was restricted by the technology at the time so had to work around those restrictions making a more grounded scene that works better than what he originally intended). Also unfortunately for the few that aren't a lot of the Lucas purists are the same group of people who are super toxic (like get annoyed about rey and that a woman had purple hair and somehow completely misunderstood TLJ because they either don't understand how stories work or went in wanting to hate it) and hate literally everything post Disney. They are also contradictory normally old expanded universe purists. As for the prequels, I love what Lucas was trying to say but he completely failed in the execution and really needed someone else working with him to pull him back and focus on the right things (not advertising his special effects company, which is what the films feel like sometimes) and also help him with names and dialogue and story structure (episode 2 should have episode 1, everything has to be reestablished in the second film and it means that everything important to the plot is rushed, we get a beginning and an end with none of the development).

Prequels were awesome, but the sequels. They deserve to be spit on.

ok i really am tired of this disney my own lucas films but they have no creative control lucas films made the choice to ignore their former boss you know the one who ruined the franchise the spent decades building up now its their job to clean up the mess and they have done great so far by wiping most of the old eu and only bringing back the best of it and ignoring the existence of midiclorians but they have also made some questionable decisions like giving ea exclusive game rights and the being mad when they shut down fan projects that lucas filmed approved

+Exile Studios Commas, and periods. use them. I somehow managed to stumble through that crap shoot of a comment. while I agree with the point, me having to spend like twenty minutes figuring out were one sentence ends and the other begins is ridiculous.

Ethan Miller dude this is a youtube comment section im not wasting proper grammar here

Exile Studios theres a difference between proper grammar and speaking English. if you want to misspell every word in the sentence then fine, but at least make sure people can ACTUALLY read the damn thing

It was like decoding morse

Lego vs. Minecraft Basically beet and vodka and cherry flavor and lots of wine.

right in the 'Gungans

You think Rose Tico is better?

What this is quality lol 😂 stop kidding yourself 🤣😂🤣

great quality and SNL are mutually exclusive

Except it's much better cause it doesn't have an annoying laugh track.

lmao is that an insult?! Who wants to be compared to SNL these days hahahaha

How so?

It aged fine

Wait, how so?

@@kyleturner7309 amber Heard

@@BlueTyphoon2017 amber Heard

Disney gave us Rebels, Rogue One, Mandalorian and Clone Wars 7 quit whining.

@@Jason-El Rebels has shaky quality, Rogue One was actually mostly boring, Mandalorian I'll give you, and they originally cancelled season 7. We'll never stop fighting corporate bastards, bootlicker.

@@Stad122 Rogue One was amazing !

@@Jason-El Only the last third really. A lot of the characters were very one note, and it spent a bit too much time on nostalgia pandering rather than setting them up.

@@Stad122 yeah, you have to understand Rogue One to like it

The dialogue sucked , the script itself was solid , dialogue and script are different things

@@yveltalpoderoso1303 I dont think Disney any better if we want to be honest here lol

@@yveltalpoderoso1303 dialogue wasn’t even bad it just had a couple bad lines from one character

Lego Boy Studios Yeah, he must really be upset having made so much money.

Me too!Someone who respects his work finally!

Lego Boy Studios I think they could have been better but yeah people are way too hard on them.

shunkwugga This is not about money idiot He gives his money to charity: 4 Billion

Lego Boy Studios True

Then i would rather see a qui-gon Jinn movie. Because we alle know that Yoda is out of the picture for a look at he's life :D

aule10 If we got a Yoda movie, it'd probably be really boring if they didn't do it right.

John Tucker He is over 900 years old. I am sure that some of them is fun to watch, and others boring. But it aint gonna happen, Lucas wanted him to a mysterius charrecter, and is making sure that almost all non canon about him keeps in line of some guidelines.

John Tucker we meet again

John Tucker no the Han Solo films confirmed

You wouldn't disliked him if he was revealed to be Darth Jar Jar in Episode 2

I don't know why everybody hates Jar Jar, the Anakin from ep II in the other hand hmmm, well... he didn't like sand?

I don't like Jar-Jar because I find him just as annoying all the other characters do. I get that he's supposed to be a comic relief character, but I don't find him funny. And if a comic relief character isn't funny, that defeats the entire point of them. Then all you're left with is an annoying character.

Laake White He wasn't supposed to be just a comic relief. Just like Yoda wasn't in the original trilogy and Vader didn't kill Luke's father. George was the master of plot twists and had bigger plans for Jar Jar. Look for the Darth Jar Jar theory and you will understand.

Xnake yeah but people hated jar jar so he made his part smaller he even got talled to shut up in the second one

At least Disney didn’t re-prequelize the prequel stuff. In fact, Lucas himself scrapped ideas to have Han Solo in Revenge of the Sith.

@@Gemnist98 yeah because its an idea belive it or not crazy ideas do come when making a film and hey at least George didnt retcon his character jedi Liea, hermet Luke, bad piolit Han, alive Emperor, the fucking force becoming this thing that u would find in a comic book not Star Wars

@@reversepickle5923 or a star wars comic because the emperor came back in legends

Hani Rifai Technically Darth Maul came back in Solo it’s not like they ignore them.

@@Gemnist98 have u not seen the one part of episode obi-wan show where obi-wan hides leia in his coat and there are 4 legs while the storm troopers dont notice lol

I feel like that would be the same as in wolverine origins when wolverine got his jacket

What will the action figures be?

And then we got the real movie, which explained stuff like this

Well you got your wish

Grey Ghost 615 oh yea look where Star Wars is at now it’s in the dirt with Disney have fun watching those agenda driven films the prequels actually have meaning to them unlike the Sequels

No He is an legend, he inspired me to start my my channel, to write pages of only NAMES. Hundreds of characters! My biggest dream is to just get a glimp of George Lucas since i was 7! He inspired me to become screen writer, everything i do is inspired by him. He is my biggest idol. And i am thankfull for what he has done in his live for us.

@Grey Ghost 615 a little portion of what ypu said was correct he had a very telented team

@@rumpio5505 your argument is 10/10 men 👏

@@rumpio5505 This "agenda" is only in your head, having a women with a big role in the movie isn't an agenda. If you think its a bad characters then I agree but if you talk any more of your shity "agenda" then get the fuck out hater. I dont hate Lucas but he is only good at creating things.

And most of mando season 1 is better than all 3 sequels combined. The way mando tells the story is some of the best storytelling possible, because it **doesnt** tell the story. The story is implied, not spoken

@@ZSpieg EXACTLY!! couldnt have put it better myself. They told waaaay too much story through the intro rolling story

@@noahwindhouwer2977 there’s a great video called “The Mandalorian vs The Last Jedi Storytelling” or something like that that explains how the storytelling in mando is great

@@ZSpieg thanks

Evan Helms 4 million out of billions is pretty low on the generous wealthymans list..

+Evan Helms You do realize you can make fun of someone and not hate them as a person right?

Evan Helms I thought he donated 4 billion dollars.

The Warp Zone how long does it take to do one skit please reply PS big fan

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Same here he changed the world

Same

You do know that it was a collective effort. If there were no people controlling his actions back then, then things would not be the same way, like, the character's conceptual faces, etc. There was a time when he had a complete control of the series, when everyone was afraid of correcting him because "he's George Lucas", and that's the prequels.

Cheers to this young lad

Fernando Sosa he is responsible for the idea but not getting and keeping the ball rolling. If George had the same control he had on the prequels with the original Star Wars. That movie would have been a horrible mess and be another B grade sci-fi movie that will only be remembered by die hard film historians and sci-fi film enthusiasts. That movie was saved by the editors including Georges wife at the time. Empire was directed and written by different people and I believe George was just a producer and it's no surprise that it's considered the best in the franchise. Just because he's responsible for that spark doesn't put him on a pedistal. He is just a man. A man with good ideas and flops them when he doesn't have a collaborative team of talented people

George Lucas is a genius. The prequels were flawed because he isn't the best at every single thing, but storytelling and world building are what he's great at. All the flaws of the prequels could have been worked out with more collaborations like the OT. That being said, besides Midichlorians, some of the dialogue and stuff like that, the prequels were actually good. Genuinely star wars unlike the sequel trilogy.

Jeroogalo no

Yes! Thank you for pointing that out, people are getting carried away with all the George Lucas hate.

1 year later and Lucas seems like he's the only one who can save it 😂

The hell you sayin?! Prequels lit fam!

Just because you donated to charity doesn't make you a good person example if I shot someone and then donated to charity then going by your logic it was okay for me to do that

A Complete and Utter Failure You just made a completely stupid example of why even if you donate to charity you’re not necessarily a nice person. Lucas made a bad movie and he’s a horrible person?

Actually, he made 1 decent movie, two awful ones, and collaborated in making the best movie trilogy of all history, and even then he only directed one of those and his ideas for the last one (Ewoks) are usually hated by the fans.

+The Black Panther Lol 😆

The Black Panther here,here.

The Black Panther the phantom menace kinda sucked

he is a genius, he created the whole universe, of course he had collaboration. Anyway this is a parody not an attack so Black panther just chill out dude.

Yeah that was hilarious! But in actuality, George had no notions or even plans for a fifth Indiana Jones installment. (Until Disney and KK came in)

+vomit buddy lol k... that's like saying a real Star Trek fan has to love Star Trek V or Star Trek Generations...

The Warp Zone Kewink 😂

That's like saying 'a real Doctor Who fan should like every single episode in the entire series'

holy shit you guys actually replied

Da Pumaface iiii

No they were not incompetent

You forgot the best one GONK a star wars movie

Harry Sandbrook we already had the back story. We didn't need the details just the broad stroaks. What mattered was the OT this is one of the worst arguments for the prequels I've ever seen

Go prequels!!! The huge scope of prequels universe have not been reach any of science fiction movies.

While I agree the plot is awesome most everything in the prequels is franky awful

The prequels brought new technologies, planets, characters, stories. The era is simply amazing. The Disney sequels on the other hand didn’t bring nothing new, the same technologies as the OT, the same story and plot as the OT, the same Darth Vader but a substantial downgrade, the same planets with different names, the same rebels, the same death star which could be considered technical, the same story troopers, the same tie fighters, the same x wings (which are all the same technologies)... and on top of that we get politics such as identity politics shoved down our throats, Rey no backstory, no training, gets everything handed to her, no flaws. The main villain is a child in a mask, and the first order isn’t intimidating. Also we get no backstory to the first order and how they rose to power.

@@RileyMarrVideo most everything? The cgi for the time was great (especially from episode 2 which is still alright today and from episode 3 which many still see as good nearly 15 years after release), the choreography was astounding with fast and fluid lightsaber battles (whoch actually felt like jedi _masters_ fighting), the acting was also on point (acting is not just dialogue but also showing emotion, choreography and very important: emotions)

The Kessel Rum is what got me.

Big Chungus. Ka wink! 😉

Yes it has.

Rebels Rogue One Mandalorian Clone Wars 7 Shut your mouth.

@@Jason-El rebels quality is debatable at best, rouge one was only good at the end, mandolorian was great, and clone wars season seven was great, but Disney basically had gold handed to them with that. The they made the last Jedi and rise of skywalker so you know Disney still suck at Star Wars. Like they ruin character people loved and when fans complained they were called sexist and white supremacist and they invalidated Vader’s sacrifice and basically tilted everything in reys favor.

@@bjwill9047 You're still in here whining ?

@@bjwill9047 That was justified for one. People were being racist about John Boyega being cast, and people harassed Kelly Marie Tran so much she quit social media. Have you seen comments against her ? I have. They're repugnant and fucking disgusting

The Last Jedi was not that bad. Was it perfect? No, but you people are taking this TLJ hate waaayyy too far.

MP well it did destroy Luke’s legacy. Not to mention no character development for Rey...

@@emileboucher2573 Asoka more of a Mary Sue then Rey so we’re gonna ignore all the training she has and character development throughout the entirety of clone wars?

Lol

Like milk.

That's OT purists for you. ALMOST worse than st fanboys

Jar jar is actually cool I don’t mind him

He was.

He’s a Sith Lord

Nope.

Nope but I don't mind.

Same…😢

the first one I know is real

ish

ShadowHunter what do you mean ish? Is it actually from Star Wars art or no?

bigdoubleu117 it is a fatter Version of a already existing alien

They are chimera of existing characters

I mean, can you really blame them tho? The last 3 Star Wars movie were not very well received, and Disney didn’t want to risk doing something that would alienate audiences. Besides TFA still has more than enough differences from A New Hope to stand on its own.

Josh Sacre best prequel is Clone Wars show (2008)

Best prequel ROTS

Me too Star Wars: Episode 3: ROTS is one of my favorite S.W. films.

I just realized that fanboys like you don't actually like Star Wars, you like your own head cannon that you beat your meat off to

No no I definitely remember there was a 4th movie. You know, Kingdom of the Cry......... (gets shot in the head)

None, shall speak it's name.

This video takes place in 2019 after the rise of skywalker released george lucas lost so many brain cells form watching the the sequel trilogy he couldn't make anymore great stories

What's even more ironic is that George really enjoyed Rogue One.

Doesn't matter what he was going to be, the finished result is all that counts.

*cough it's called drunken fist, japanese technique cough*

Rogue one is out in december.

Neal i think he means ep 9

The Bat of Gotham god no one get it right episode 9 already came out i am waiting for episode 4

Episode 4 was the first one that came out.

Walker-Gabriel Prichelmaer the fuck are you blabbering about?