Is Suella Braverman shielded from stronger criticism due to her race? | LBC 

The ethnicity of the last two home secretaries is not coincidental.

So, I'm a white male from what I think is a fairly average background. I'm confused by this issue a little. What I find really strange is that the Conservative party front bench looks very diverse but acts like a white supremacy gang

On the surface, racism is about skin colour. But deep down it's about the colour of their/your heart.

No wonder the Kenyans and Ugandans didn't want her

Reminds me of those people who were bullied at school by a gang of kids, then somehow were offered a (low) place in the gang, on the understanding that they would join in with the bullying of the next kid.

Baroness Warsi has done everyone a great service by speaking out like this from the position she holds. She truly is my hero of the week

Certainly some of the language from Patel and Braverman would not have been out of place at a 1970s NF rally!

He accidently wore a Britain first t-shirt but that does not explain why he owned it and they do not seem to be mentioning that the council asked them to take them down years ago and they refused to take them down. Then add in that they are hanging from their necks. I bet if people started to send them to Braverman she would soon have the police involved. There has been a long standing problem with historically immigrant families 'Pulling up the ladder' after themselves wen it comes to new immigrants.

Yes, and if we don't stand up to her which group will she come for next.

Shes proof that the movie Get Out was more documentary than fiction

Well done to Baroness Sayeeda Warsi for licensing the rightful consideration of the racism being described for I was wondering what was causing the punditry to stay so silent on the matter, when nothing has caused them to be so silent before.

Baroness Warsis' description of Suella Braverman being a "Trump Tribute Act" just nailed it for me.

Braverman is a dangerous combination of thick, deluded, overtly ambitious and I am going to say, she's an utter sociopath and she will say whatever needs to be said to appeal to her core base.

P.O.C have always known and experienced this phenomena. In Britain they call such people coconuts brown on the outside and white inside. Meaning they advance in society through an internalization of the dominant in this case white ideology. These individuals don't identity with the struggles of other POC rather the see themselves as the model immigrant and inherently superior. The PM is Hindu and comes from a context that rigidly maintains the caste system. I don't think he will lose much sleep over policies that exacerbate the situation of the marginalized and vulnerable in society.

Drawbridge mentality. Now that I've arrived, lower the bridge so more of me can't come.

Absolutely right. As a brown person I agree with you 100%. If the same statement was made by a white fellow.. the entire media would have gone crazy. And I do agree that no one should make such hateful statement

It's not weird at all. It's the "I'm nothing like the rest of my ethnicity, gender, etc"-syndrome.

No one should be protected from criticism because of their skin colour or race. The Rwanda plan is cruel and no one will stop me saying it.

For me it is simple. Just listen to what they say. Remember when TMay said 'Citizens of Nowhere'. That told me she/conservatives didn't consider me a citizen because I didn't agree with them.

Baroness Warsi has proved herself a totally courageous person. If she was prime minister there would still be hope

Our home sectary could not even answer the Sir Mo Farah question.

Anyone looking for a definition of the word "sellout" Cruella Braverman is it.

Yes, she is. Thank you again to Baroness Warsi for saying what people are thinking.

Instead of immegrent you could say an indian/Pakistani /Nigerian ex pat. That's what UK immegrents call themselves when they move abroad.

Raab is a descendant of a Czech refugee? As I Czech, I do apologise for this creature's existence!

The Home Secretary is what you call a Coconut 🥥

It's noticable that she hasn't said anthing bad about people of her own ethnicity. Her parents are from India, she's attacked Pakistani men and been dismissive of sybmbols of racism against people from Africa.

Hit the nail on the head James, You are absolutely right.

For me, one of the most important episodes to help untangle the race-identity-nationality paradox, and counter the Tory weapons of culture war.

The Britain First tee-shirt was just an unfortunate accident. On that day his Insulate Britain and Free Nelson Mandela tees simply happened to be in the wash.

I wonder if her actions are in any way informed by her background of privilege and religious theology ...

Easy mistake, I got out of my bed this morning, fumbled around half awake getting dressed, only to find when fully awake, I’d put on full SS battle dress, complete with swastikas. Silly me.

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck

That woman needs to be binned. Even field mice have more compassion for life than she does smh truly outrageous

You main need to treat her as a member of her class,supporting the policies that benefit her social class. I think the concept of class would clarify some of this confusion .She is defending her privileged position in the conservative government.

Obvious why the tories were desperate to have her as home secretary.

I think most black people are fed up of being told that they are playing the race card. So now they have distance themselves from commenting on anything to do with it. They will speak of it within their own friends and family group but will hardly ever called it out in public anymore. The show was great and I love the comments from all the people who spoke the truth. Also I love the answer about the screws from your question and answer section.

Her rhetoric can be understood from the point view of self hate projected towards people who look similar. This is a strong way to pull yourself, delusional as it is, from your own ethnicity towards that you think you are, and you want to be. I'm curious to know what box she would tick when asked about her ethnicity.

The way I would have handled Ms Braverman is to dismiss her ethnicity altogether as it's irrelevant in the context of her actions. It's her behavior that is the problem, and her behavior she should be called out on, full stop. It doesn't matter where your family came from or if your black, brown or green with purple spots, bad behavior is bad.

She thinks she is white though.

Rather than attempt to brand all Pakistani men for the actions of a few, Braverman should acknowledge the huge service and sacrifice men of South Asian origin, Indian, Pakistani, and Bangladeshi, made fighting for Britain in the two world wars. Pakistani forces today play a key role as UN Peacekeepers, putting their own lives in danger in some of the world’s most unstable countries.

Kind of refreshing to see the Britain has the same race issues as we in the USA. Shows that we black people aren’t imagining it like we’re often told. Yes, we also have immigrants who come here, then their children get into a position of power then they become followers of white supremacist ideology. They are most often conservatives. Peculiar how to conserve means to remain the same, unchanging. Yet they’re able to emigrate to the USA because lot of black people and white progressives fought for the change. It’s like they don’t understand or don’t care that the people that they show the most contempt for are the ones who made it possible for them to come here. Ted Cruz, Nikki Haley, etc are the children of immigrants who are in the USA because of efforts of the black people that they show disdain for.

James is part of the problem he admits,credit to him,that he treats people of colour differantly .Until we stop seeing colour and making these judgements we can never be equal.

I don't see how seeing as we let Boris Watermelon Smile Pigininy Johnson slide we would rock the boat at all about a white Home Secretary saying what Suella said at all. Bigotry isn't just allowed, it's celebrated.

i guess she is just so desperate to be accepted by her peers, unfortunately for her, no matter what she does for them they will always hate her behind a mask of tolerance. just checked, she's another broken public school child inflicting her trauma on the rest of us, rather like johnson, cameron, Kwarteng, mogg to name a few of the broken

Thank you James,I agree with Baroness Warsis comments and Braverman is not fit for high office.

I've always thought that Baroness Warsis comes across very level headed and It's hard to believe and also just a shame she's a Tory

I've met plenty of refugees and asylum seekers over the years and have been shocked how some of them,after receiving status,are so negative towards others seeking status.Its only a handful,but nevertheless it is awful.

Prety much... just like Patel.

Completely agree, it absolutely pummels me what people with migration background like Patel and Braverman do and say.

Your question do I think Mrs Warsi is right Oh lorddddddddddddddddddd she is so right Lets forget the color of her skin , she is in that position as a Minister as she is doing the party faithfuls bidding I am of Nigerian heritage I have to be hypnotised to vote or support Kemi I will go as far as saying mentally unstable to even raise my voice as a supporter 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 The observer is soo wrong and you are right , I am close to 60 and proud to describe myself as a son of an immigrant .

That's why she has got the job.

Agree with you James...What do we do Boot Braverman who enjoys power by running with the hare and the hounds..

I did a summer job working on the parks for Thurrock Council back in the late 90s. I have never heard such vile racism coming out of the mouths of middle aged white men in my life as I had from some of my 'colleagues' there (including the W and C words relating to black people). Grays was on my patch. This is no surprise at all, and neither is the fact that the landlord of said pub joked about hanging black people in reference to the Gollywogs.

lol, what are your comments on David Lammy then? A politician and an employee of LBC.

And it's true what Braverman said about the groomers, how can anyone deny it.

And on and on the woke brigade go spewing their nonsense.

I have asked my black and Asian friends how they feel about a range of terms. While this is not a scientific survey I prefer to be guided by what they told me than by politically correct or by white supremacists, both of whom I perceive as extremely prejudiced.

Braverman is not sheltered from criticism at all. She and the PM absolutely act from a position of internalised racism.

Ms Braverman's policies are popular with a lot of the British people. Carry on Suella.

James 'I only like brown people who agree with me' O'Brian 😂

I think that this is much to do with class than racism. A caller expressed that his middle class father shared those views even though he was a POC. I think his father looks down on those who are escaping France l

Most of the brown people in the UK's government; and especially those with Indian backgrounds, have all been children of those elite Indians, that were installed by the British administration to administer the UK's African colonies. These British Indian administrator, were both versed in state and commercial administration. Their objective was to make the UK's African colonies grow and tame the local natives. However, WW2 and the subsequent independence of the UK's colonies, upset the UK's colony strategy and most of the Indian administrator im/migrated; not to India but, to the UK. And Braverman, Patel and Sunak are all children of this former Indian-African elites. So you can draw your own conclusion when it comes to Braverman's altitude to the plight of refugees.

At the end of the day, it's an horrendous, almost dystopian policy that the Tories are trying to persue. What counts here is ending it, no matter which deluded narcissist is cheer leading it through.

Obsessed by race is O’Brien.

that’s why she was put in, wasn’t it?

Is there a difference between the Indian caste system and British class system. Belonging nowhere is her problem. She might as well stand for the BNP, in the next election. No roots, no culture and norms. 😮

The comments about Sunak are particularly interesting to me. Baroness Warsi suggests he looked uncomfortable when asked about this rhetoric and I think she’s right, he doesn’t seem as happy to go down this route as many of his colleagues. But he is still going down this route which suggests to me that Sunak is not in charge of his cabinet at all. I get the impression that he’s been allowed to be PM as long as he doesn’t interfere with the real task in hand, the one Braverman has been put up to execute. The country is being run by people in the shadows, Braverman is the agent and Sunak is the enabler.

Your truth, your painful honesty is what keeps me coming back to your channel

Never mind her race, what species is she?

Absolutely. If she was a middle aged white man she would have been seen in a much harsher light.

Conflict over kashmir spreading into uk politics. Worse yet to come.

James start calling her Cruella rather than Suella

"Suella" is literally the offspring i expect from "the coopers" on goodness gracious me. Go ahead watch that sketch. Tell me I'm wrong.

Yes ive said it before but what if her parents were sent to Rwanda instead of being given a visa

That's the whole point James you see the home secretary as a potential victim and she simply does not .

Indian is not a race . It is a mish mash of gazillion ethnicities . She is half Tamil mauritian and half Goan Christian .

If it looks like a duck, it quacks like a duck, it’s a duck.

In 50 years Braverman and Enoch Powell will be said in the same breath.

Child of an immigrant here. I'm currently not offended by this description as that's what I am. If I'm described as a person of colour then I'm generally more worried someone else will take offence. I mean, I'm a light brown, but as I'm frequently made aware I'm not a "real" brown by both sides of the colour divide. A lot of Syrians are whiter than me

💯 ive been saying this.

There is a comment made in this comment section that label's the home secretary as an Oreo , the replying comments references her being a coconut . That comment has lots of likes . My question is why does that r4cist comment remain up ?

The self-serving elites come in all colours.

So she is like the British version of Candace Owens.

Spot on as always james...keep em coming.

As an old white dude from Germany: I loved my set of gollywogs I had when I was ~6 years old. Now I know better.

Basically, theres been a huge very specific crime happening around one specific group of people that nobody wanted to touch. Now its being addressed, people are trying to stop it. Thats messed up

Lots of people coming in upset all native Brits Colour irrelevant it's our country,so our resources,it's the same in their country

Focussing on the crimes of Pakistanis is very popular amongst Tory voting Indians….but it’s not racism evidently .

If you asked 100 p.o.c if she is 89 would say yes. Take from that what you will.

I like listening to James O’ Brian.

Surely the biggest problem with cruella, is how utterly horrible her policies are towards people. And she is supposed to be a people acting for people. Never mind colours. She is horrible to people. Lots of them. The ones that need the most help. And she seems to revel in ways to keep being horrible to people.

Sayeeda wartsi cares more about hurting the feelings of Pakistani rapists than British girls. She’s a fine one to talk about using ethnicity to cover up being absolutely useless .

Is Suella Braverman shielded from stronger criticism due to her race? Let me help you out here: YES. Braverman is an obedient little brown house girl. She has found a nice little niche; she knows there is always a spot for the complicit. I'm tired of people like her (and Sunak, and Clarence Thomas, and Kwarteng, and Nikki Haley, etc.) not being called out simply because they are of the race that they seek to oppress. Braverman would see every brown person in the world in a cage if it meant her income went up 1%.

IMMIGRATION REFERENDUM required.

If, as Braverman would have it, child abusers were not prosecuted as swiftly as they should have been, due to their ethnicity; then why should hers be a shield for her obvious racism?

We do need to also remember Priti Patel - and how Braverman is absolutely a "continuity" of this rhetoric and strategy - surely no coincidence... And yes, I think Warsi is right. This is a thorny issue if, as you say James, are trying to figure it all out as a white person. It's walking on egg shells. You feel you have no right to have a stance on the issue. I've seen, read and heard many things in my life that I could never say publicly for that very reason. Suffice and sad to say, racism exists in all cultures and all races.

Yes.

Why does James not see any distinction between people that came here legally and followed the rules and those that ignored the rules and broke into the country?

....goodness knows the names he would have called Braverman if she was white....doesn't bear thinking about...😊