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"IS THE BLACK CHURCH DEAD? A ROUNDTABLE ON THE FUTURE OF BLACK CHURCHES"
During the first few months of 2010 a new, yet familiar, debate broke out about the role of black churches in the United States. What began as a provocative article on the Huffington Post elicited a wide range of responses from religious leaders around the country, ignited an online dialogue among academics, and sparked a plethora of essays across the blogosphere. These exchanges inspired a series of interviews on NPR, and, ultimately, the dialogue was featured in the New York Times.
Bringing together a group of distinguished voices who represent the worlds of both church and academia, this roundtable conversation will build on many of the themes that emerged in the above debate with the hopes of helping to highlight, clarify and query some of the most pressing challenges and promising developments that occupy the American religious landscape. A number of critical issues-including religious pluralism, gender exclusion, marriage equality, class divisions and the persistence of racial inequality-in contemporary society will be on the table in this discussion of the
Participants to include:
Prof. Anthea Butler, Associate Professor and Graduate Chair of Religion - University of Pennsylvania
Eddie Glaude, Jr.; Professor of Religion & African American Studies and Chair, The Center for African-American Studies - Princeton University
Prof. Fredrick Harris; Professor of Political Science & Director of African-American Studies, Columbia University;
Prof. Obery M. Hendricks, Jr.; Visiting Scholar-Religion & African American Studies, Columbia; University; Professor of Biblical Interpretation - New York Theological Seminary
Rev. Dr. Eboni K. Marshall, Assistant Minister for Christian Education, Abyssinian Baptist Church-Harlem, New York
Rev. Otis Moss, III, Senior Pastor, Trinity United Church of Christ-Chicago, Illinois
Prof. Josef Sorett, Assistant Professor of Religion & African-American Studies - Columbia University
THIS EVENT IS CO-SPONSORED BY THE INSTITUTE FOR RELIGION, CULTURE & PUBLIC LIFE AT COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY
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@PaulGreen11
@PaulGreen11 11 лет назад
You're Absolutely Correct. And my biggest question is, "Where has the money gone?" Decades of paying "tithes" and what business have black churches created? What schools?
@andrewdorsey6336
@andrewdorsey6336 3 года назад
So,so true. What if anything have the black church created? Drama!! You only get what you pay for after you die.
@PaulGreen11
@PaulGreen11 3 года назад
@@andrewdorsey6336 Exactly! Decades(DECADES) of Blacks pouring money into Black Churches and we have no Farming & Distribution Industry to speak of!
@loveacoachfitnessnutrition863
@loveacoachfitnessnutrition863 2 года назад
That's a retorical question ❓
@jkane764
@jkane764 2 года назад
>> "Where has the money gone?" Decades of paying "tithes" - it is deposited into banks that would never give loans to any member of the pastor's congregation. The money - instead - is gone to finance the businesses, goals and dreams of other people.
@PaulGreen11
@PaulGreen11 2 года назад
@@jkane764 Facts.
@RG-rj4sp
@RG-rj4sp 5 лет назад
Just because someone is willing to have a conversation with you doesn't mean they are willing to listen to you. These pastors will defend and preserve their way of life, their business.
@michaelrogers8656
@michaelrogers8656 3 года назад
That is definitely a part of the problem.
@jeffbillings-el6110
@jeffbillings-el6110 2 года назад
The question is the Black dead ??? Of course is dead , the Church is the Funeral Home , than they bury you in your grave ! They ask is the Black Church dead ??? The word Black it self implies something that is dead ! It was never about spiritual reality , Spiritual Living . it created a false sense of spirituality ! Black is the absence of Light ( knowledge , Truth , consciousness , awareness . Black according to science means , Lifeless , Death , Sinful ,Evil , and Wick ! The Black Church was Never alive ! It was created for the Pale race for their earthy justification for living . I mean , they (Pale race) are the Seed of Cain , the tiller of the soil ! It represents Dead , it glorifies Death . The Church is the Senate of Rome , and Christianity is its religion ( Western Free Masonry) The head of the Christian world , the Pope , therefore, they maintain Superiority ( European imperialism ) over the Black Churches and any other melinaned people for that matter . Let me remind y'all Black is the Void of life , meaning no growth and no development !
@thadiscypal8874
@thadiscypal8874 2 года назад
That’s the whole problem. The roman Catholic Church is the reason so many pastors teach the same thing called prosperity. Our people have forgotten that these are the same people who destroyed Jerusalem and took everything and flipped it with false hope and lies. They used tithing as a tool to keep them (whites) rich
@epic6434
@epic6434 2 года назад
Wonder why you know so much about these characters 🤔 like they're lying to their constituents I mean congress I mean congressional I mean congregation.
@melodicharmony9772
@melodicharmony9772 Год назад
@@epic6434 😂😂😂😂😂
@anthonyholland4269
@anthonyholland4269 6 лет назад
The universities taught these people well all this talking in circles ...smh what is the point of having a formal debate if the common man cant understand a word of it. There's a saying "you must know something intimately to explain it simply" the double talk just comes off as pride in their education without any real ability to educate.
@michaelrogers8656
@michaelrogers8656 3 года назад
Socrates was a real, living person. We all have gifts and talents given without apology. High tide raises all ships unless holes are present.
@loveacoachfitnessnutrition863
@loveacoachfitnessnutrition863 2 года назад
You got it and there is no courage some are more cowardly than the KKK.
@tyronerowesr4219
@tyronerowesr4219 2 года назад
Fact.
@dannygeorge1928
@dannygeorge1928 2 года назад
A whole lot of intellectual waffle, it means nothing to the layman. Years ago I made a comment: the black churches, take,take and take again from the community and gave nothing in return. I became an enemy of that pastor until this day.
@ivydaniels5302
@ivydaniels5302 Год назад
@@dannygeorge1928 yeah… they start out by say this is Doctor xyz and this is Doctor xyz …. And how does it help us???? What problems can they solve…. Not impressed
@smartkookie
@smartkookie Год назад
People have evolved and can see that the church has been a trick. When the black church starts helping the community more and living up to their mission then we will return.
@darrynelslaughter565
@darrynelslaughter565 Год назад
Yeah the preachers of LA proved the tricks and tricky used of people being in the mist of the wizard of oz
@34uzz78
@34uzz78 Год назад
This is churches in general tho
@israeljudah785
@israeljudah785 Год назад
Teaching the laws and putting and teaching how to rebuild the family as well. That can all be taught by actually teaching out of the Bible
@cinnamonmadonna
@cinnamonmadonna Год назад
Holistically, Blacks are in a psychosis 🧠 and will never awaken to their true authentic selves or their original spiritual system. The church is a scam. The rhetoric is redundant. The End.
@loirdw
@loirdw 3 года назад
Wait, am I watching a discussion on "the black church" with pastors, teachers, etc with no bibles and no one saying thus says the Lord? I think you have the answer to the topic.
@carmenryder4324
@carmenryder4324 2 года назад
I'm glad you said that. I was waiting for it too. Smh
@lindaharris3432
@lindaharris3432 2 года назад
Jesus is the head of the church , but they going to make all the decisions and want Him to quietly go along with they narrative .
@LilLynda
@LilLynda Год назад
WAS SEARCHING FOR THIS COMMENT!!!
@RichieDavid83
@RichieDavid83 Год назад
@@LilLynda stop lying. Why search when you could have just wrote it yourself
@LilLynda
@LilLynda Год назад
@@RichieDavid83 🤣
@bjellybee
@bjellybee 6 лет назад
They are still missing the point!
@aarontaylor7677
@aarontaylor7677 2 года назад
The church doesn't give you any answers, it keeps you from asking the questions.
@anthonygilbert5138
@anthonygilbert5138 Год назад
Because they either don't know or don't want you to know the truth
@tw4734
@tw4734 Год назад
I was raised in the church as a young person. A lot of us refused to go because the churches have forgot about the community. With everything that’s going on in our community the churches says nothing. Whatever happened to feeding the community, after school programs for single parent children and going out to the community when our young with gang violence????
@MAArch-ec7se
@MAArch-ec7se Год назад
Pimp preachers now exist for entertainment purposes and tight pants. They lack morals and true Christian ethics.
@israeljudah785
@israeljudah785 Год назад
Amen
@eriqeasy9273
@eriqeasy9273 Год назад
Pope said and I quote give me your young till they are 6 and I will have them for life but guess wat the jig is now up mtf"s
@munnygawn9480
@munnygawn9480 4 года назад
When the comment section is more informative than the video.
@MrMajid070
@MrMajid070 12 лет назад
We spend more time and focus on entertaining ourselves with music, dancing, and praise than we do studying the bible and our surroundings. Too many cowards in the church also. Too afraid to stand up and teach our people the truth for fear of them walking out in denial. We're still getting punked by Satan. Black preachers find some testicular fortitude and wake your people up. Partying and dancing in the name of GOD is NOT going to save us!
@thadiscypal8874
@thadiscypal8874 2 года назад
We’re the Israelites bro
@tyronerowesr4219
@tyronerowesr4219 2 года назад
Absolutely.
@kathleenking47
@kathleenking47 2 года назад
@@thadiscypal8874 nope...some could be, but not basic blacks
@thadiscypal8874
@thadiscypal8874 2 года назад
@@kathleenking47 its really no contest. the entire Bible is talking about us. do you know who comes from the tribe of Judah????
@michaelisrael452
@michaelisrael452 Год назад
@@thadiscypal8874 NoCap
@Critic_number_4
@Critic_number_4 9 лет назад
I hate when people use big words and have no idea what they are saying...
@teresawicks-kq3bq
@teresawicks-kq3bq 6 лет назад
Critic Number 4, these are Dr's why wouldn't they know what they're saying. could it be that you don't understand what they're saying?
@DL-ri2vl
@DL-ri2vl 5 лет назад
Keep the commandments
@anthonywilliams3822
@anthonywilliams3822 5 лет назад
I didn't hear any big words.
@dontrustwhiteyevery1
@dontrustwhiteyevery1 5 лет назад
THEY are just beating AROUND Bush. All that deflecting, talking about farms, deregulation, just Smoke..No real change.
@michaelrogers8656
@michaelrogers8656 3 года назад
I am just trying to make sure I am clear. You said you "hate when people use big words and [they or you] ] have no idea what they are saying . . . "?
@benellis5646
@benellis5646 6 лет назад
All of these big words with little substance! I kept feeling like I got in a car and road 500 miles to end up at a destination 50ft from my starting point.
@MrTimeless101
@MrTimeless101 6 лет назад
Ben Ellis you nailed it.
@dontrustwhiteyevery1
@dontrustwhiteyevery1 5 лет назад
Yes!
@xavierowens6503
@xavierowens6503 3 года назад
Well stated!!!!
@joanking2241
@joanking2241 2 года назад
Yes!
@deborahtucker4900
@deborahtucker4900 2 года назад
They REALLY needed to listen and let the people talk. The commentary given by the young female minister made little to no sense to me. They all hit on some valid issues but danced around personal accountability, the true gospel of Jesus Christ and the void of leadership in the black community. The leadership is so geared towards entertainment and performances that it was painful to listen to these ministers try to ascertain what is going on in the church which includes a lot of manipulation.
@antoniomartin5417
@antoniomartin5417 5 лет назад
It is all about Status in the black church. I have yet to see a broke superstar preacher.
@SipherX50
@SipherX50 3 года назад
@Norris Cool I think that is a pretty large generalization. In this video they mention multiple times the fact that the Black churches and Pastors that are doing a great deal of the work in communities are not publicized. Also maybe these White Pastors that you are referring to are able to do as much as they do because they don't have to worry about themselves or a large portion of their congregation living in poverty. If your congregation makes more money in their careers and return a faithful tithe and offering, you can do more ministry. There are also white pastors that invest in themselves as well. I.e Kenneth Copeland. I do think you have a point about Black preachers though. Not all, but some focus on the here after rather than this life, but I wonder if that comes from being apart of a group of people that has historically suffered in this country. Maybe we focus more on the here after because we cling to the idea that there is has to be something better than this.
@live4christ295
@live4christ295 3 года назад
@Norris Cool black "churches"?! You see, THIS is the problem and decline with the "church" regarding blacks. Everything is about RACE!!! We glorify the very thought that we are BLACK, but fail to grasp the gospel of Christ on a whole in these temples....I !ean churches. The very definition of church has been reformed to ft the narrative of the new age. This is why everyone with a title in the church is always posturing on each other and finding faults and arguments to engage in
@live4christ295
@live4christ295 3 года назад
@Norris Cool the church was created by Christ Himself thousands of years ago. We have followed the Catholic way of service and idolatry on a large scale. Ever notice how everyone is sitting g so upright and "righteous" in stature and speech, but when they leave they don't speak that way. This is a prime example of FALSE SALVATION! So let's not continue to view the "church" as anything else that what it is. The word TEMPLE was used in biblical times to describe man-made buildings
@loveacoachfitnessnutrition863
@loveacoachfitnessnutrition863 2 года назад
Superstar ain't in God's vocabulary 👏👿 he wants workers !!!
@kimberlys.sanders4666
@kimberlys.sanders4666 2 года назад
And you never will
@daddyknowsbest8832
@daddyknowsbest8832 Год назад
This conversation is exactly why as a body of believers we must stress being doers of the word and not just hearers.
@jacques9569
@jacques9569 Год назад
AN TEACH THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST' NEW TESTAMENT/COVENANT FREE IN THE SPIRIT OF HOLINESS AN NOT THE LAW, WHICH IS BONDAGE AN CARNAL /THE FLESH
@1968dogg
@1968dogg Год назад
Even if they twist the "word" to put monies in their pockets and give "crumbs off the master's table"?
@malcolmcash6854
@malcolmcash6854 Год назад
wow - heavy
@tonywilliams49
@tonywilliams49 7 лет назад
I know our community will be more successful had we more scientists engineers Lawyers doctors and less pastors.
@nev2943
@nev2943 5 лет назад
Well said. Well said. We own nothing as a community because we build more churches than we do anything else
@djjwest7117
@djjwest7117 5 лет назад
I totally agree
@janetchillis2952
@janetchillis2952 4 года назад
I agree let's build less preaching.... To far behind other groups black business
@ragtagarmy8428
@ragtagarmy8428 3 года назад
amen
@michaelrogers8656
@michaelrogers8656 3 года назад
This statement is easily applied to all communities.
@ericwilliams5266
@ericwilliams5266 3 года назад
We need a return to Holiness and a move to rid our community from pimps, gangs and pushers...
@JamesTaylor-rw3ty
@JamesTaylor-rw3ty 2 года назад
Tell it like it is. Holiness.
@tanishahawkins1362
@tanishahawkins1362 2 года назад
True, however what the so called black church needs to understand is that Christianity is the problem, it's bondage/slavery especially when you have lukewarm preachers who don't study the Word for themselves and people who don't read for themselves and seek the wisdom of The Most High thru the Ruach (Spirit)...to understand who we really are and who that bible is talking about THAT'S OUR history!!! and once we understand that and then repent, do his laws, stautes, and commandments and seek His spirit....The Most High says then will he hear from His people and heal the land 😉
@OGJaquarPrincess
@OGJaquarPrincess 2 года назад
And pastors, preachers, apostles, etc..
@stephaniestevenson9301
@stephaniestevenson9301 2 года назад
that would mean getting rid of a great many of the churches, seriously.
@BoonGetzBizzy
@BoonGetzBizzy 2 года назад
Holiness means separate!! Christians don't understand that. We are Israelites not gentiles, the white supremacy Christianity we've been taught is the problem
@SUNBLAKCARBON666
@SUNBLAKCARBON666 11 лет назад
Couldn't finish watching this...too painful. Such education...Such misguided energy towards fable, fantasy and myth.
@jv8367
@jv8367 Год назад
WELL SAID.
@skylinecyber3538
@skylinecyber3538 3 года назад
Every Sunday in black churches across America collection plates are passed and parishioners insert their tithes and offerings. The very next day, as those funds are deposited in church bank accounts, the transfer of millions of dollars occurs as those funds are placed in financial institutions that are not owned by African Americans. However, the weekend’s wealth transfer does not end there. It continues throughout the remainder of the week as the majority of mortgage companies, landlords, insurance companies, and vendors most black churches utilize are also not African American-owned. This wealth transfer, estimated at billions of dollars per year, occurs largely unconsciously but its impact is enormous. The transfer would not be so problematic if a reciprocating money stream was flowing from other communities into black-owned enterprises. In other words, if churches from other ethnic groups were collecting funds each weekend and transferring them to black-owned banks and businesses, the two realities would be balanced, with essentially one cancelling out the other. Instead all of the funds are moving in one direction-away from black communities and entrepreneurs.
@veganbutterfly3652
@veganbutterfly3652 2 года назад
Very well said👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
@dannygeorge1928
@dannygeorge1928 2 года назад
Couldn’t agree with you more 👍🏽
@epic6434
@epic6434 2 года назад
Whatever they're doing with the money is probably helping less fortunate African people maybe?
@CmeDEW61
@CmeDEW61 Год назад
Exactly…Thank You
@robinshine3999
@robinshine3999 Год назад
Well said!!!!! Black banks, schools, building strong black communities are imperative to the success of our race, culture, and livelihood….
@gregoryjones87
@gregoryjones87 6 лет назад
So why are there no people on the panel representing the Group that you claim won’t come to church?
@bouquetoffood8918
@bouquetoffood8918 5 лет назад
You know why!
@michaelrogers8656
@michaelrogers8656 3 года назад
That part!
@two-moonz2953
@two-moonz2953 3 года назад
They didn't turn up.
@Judah144
@Judah144 Год назад
That's why there always should be a part two video so we can show up and tell all of them the reasons that were missed.
@Que772
@Que772 Год назад
Because they don't want to hear the truth.
@aundremuhammad140
@aundremuhammad140 10 лет назад
I quote from my niece, " its okay to get a good job and move away, because THEY dont want to be helped!" As i was trying to tell her about the Mechanics, that has destroyed our family, she shunned kt off and said that stuff doesn't matter, we dont need that history. Too busy loving everybody else, building our enemy's reality, but since building ours is not the norm, my own family would rather swim with the bigger mass of blind fish. We can end it Now! Be men and women and take our streets back!
@watitduful
@watitduful Год назад
Don’t wait on her. You can be the change!
@greenbyrdd8308
@greenbyrdd8308 Год назад
I am viewing this in 2022, 12 years after this discussion. The black church definitely seems to be dying and the pandemic lockdown only sped up the process. Older people found out they could enjoy the service relaxing in their pjs from home, and they are not coming back. The younger generations were not invested in attending (in person) pre- pandemic, so they are not replacing those who can no longer attend or participate. Too many confusing/conflicting messages given by pastors with their own agenda, so young people see no value in attending/belonging to any church.
@LoLo-rh7gb
@LoLo-rh7gb Год назад
And clearly not teaching what the Bible says.. steeped in traditions and hypocrisy...
@KhamadiPlusOne
@KhamadiPlusOne Год назад
Paul says in the New Testament, what fellowship does light have with darkness? Come out from among them and be separate. II Corinthians 6:17 📖🙏🏾
@aprillondy7326
@aprillondy7326 Год назад
I agree, but we can't use that excuse when we are judged. We have to give an account of what we doing and what we're not doing.
@jonathanprather9350
@jonathanprather9350 Год назад
$$$$ If You Love Yahuah Or Yahushua Hamashiach He Said Keep My Commandments This Is Just Living Proof Satan Kids Who Works For Queen Mother Babylon Deceiving The People The Black Church Should Be The One Paying Reparations How Are You Going To Do For The Community When You Are Down With The Government Discernment Is A Must Wisdom Is To High For A Fool Utterly Amazing Ain't Some People Pitiful LOL $$$$ 🤑💪😁✌️🤑
@Octaviamorris77
@Octaviamorris77 Год назад
Black feminists have destroyed the church…..it’s really disgusting really.
@gordonchance9716
@gordonchance9716 4 года назад
Shalom my brother's and sister and observe y'all on point especially my brother in the purple tie but we need to realise that we are the lost sheep of the tribe of Israel and what we are going through is because of disobedience to the Almighty Deuteronomy 28 tells us that story and and pray that y'all tell that truth to assemble Halleluyah.
@kathleenking47
@kathleenking47 2 года назад
Some blacks are, but most arent. I believe Ethiopia wasnt colonized because of the guy of Acts 8:28 And Ras Tafari (haile selassie)
@jasonprice9647
@jasonprice9647 Год назад
@@kathleenking47 but most blacks that came on the slave ships are and so are their descendants
@childofyah-u-ah1370
@childofyah-u-ah1370 Год назад
Shalom Brother.... They aren't on that level with *TMH.* I got the impression they idolize church. Not realizing *TMH* does not dwelling in 4 walls built by man. *The Most High Yah* was not their focus. Shalom.
@divine1642
@divine1642 Год назад
Facts 💯💯💯💯 it’s so funny how with all of them being Black historians, teachers of the word & professors they would know this & keep this at the forefront of their teachings & Universal discussions!
@jeffreydurant5869
@jeffreydurant5869 Год назад
@@kathleenking47 didn't the scpriture say that the Israelites would go back into slavery (Deuteronomy 28.68 /) this time on ships and sold to their enemies. King of kings from.the conquering tribe of Judah. Judah means Jew. Many Jews in the scriptures like Moses Solomon, Job , PAul, the prophets and teachers that taught in Antioch say they were black i
@kueen7538
@kueen7538 5 лет назад
I will let the Bible speak on this: Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
@ragtagarmy8428
@ragtagarmy8428 3 года назад
amen
@peterdavid6946
@peterdavid6946 6 лет назад
I can't listen anymore.
@comeagain9074
@comeagain9074 5 лет назад
His voice and demeanor is boring and kinda feminine
@delpemdog3544
@delpemdog3544 4 года назад
@@comeagain9074 it's not because it's boing, it's because this is bullshit.
@girlbornagain9587
@girlbornagain9587 4 года назад
It's very hard not to skip around in this video. I hear a lot of big words, but no real substance.
@watitduful
@watitduful Год назад
Another thing is that the fact that we have a “black” church is part of the problem. Last time I checked, Jesus wasn’t focused on ones race, ethnicity, or nationality. It’s what’s in ones heart.
@jamesyoung3675
@jamesyoung3675 Год назад
And you need to remember the fear of the Lord, which is your wisdom.
@queenayana9564
@queenayana9564 6 лет назад
Are they still telling their people they are Gentlies.
@DL-ri2vl
@DL-ri2vl 5 лет назад
Yes, these clowns have no understanding of the scriptures
@reaiahvision8904
@reaiahvision8904 2 года назад
The So called Black Church, it was Never Alive Hosea 4:6 - is a perfect summation
@royalflush8173
@royalflush8173 Год назад
The black church are a bunch of entertainers on the level of rap and hip hop artist
@hezekiyahyisrael6662
@hezekiyahyisrael6662 Год назад
These guys are lost like last years Easter Eggs! The black churches are dying because, black folks are tried of being ripped off! Both spiritually and financially!
@multidesigns0
@multidesigns0 Год назад
Everybody speaking is saying the exact thing we already know about, but no one is giving solutions!!!!!🤦🏾‍♂️
@liz8crtravis670
@liz8crtravis670 Год назад
So true. Everyone is "talking loud and saying nothing." I do not know if they even attend church but if you talk to people who actually attend church on a regular basis, they can tell you the true nature of why the so called Black church is dying.
@TommieScott
@TommieScott 12 лет назад
I do understand how the black church started during slavery, however we must move on and be a light to the whole world so they can see CHRIST in us not the black in US, Amen, if we don't we'll turn people away from the Gospel of Christ.
@lindaharris3432
@lindaharris3432 2 года назад
Amen
@dewilliams4597
@dewilliams4597 Год назад
As always, when I hear " Black Church" it still reeks of capacity. None serve the people but just their pockets and position. Its all still conforming to the world.
@Richard-rk7tg
@Richard-rk7tg Год назад
I got right Dee
@Jedi_Black
@Jedi_Black Год назад
We need to have these conservations in each community for the improvement and progress of of Black Americans not only the church but education and addressing inner city violence
@robertmarley8852
@robertmarley8852 Год назад
I'm injun black is a misnomer
@K-ManTheHebrew
@K-ManTheHebrew Год назад
WE ARE NOT BLACK, YOU IDIOTS!!!!! ISRAEL = BLESSED PRINCE AND NEGRO (BLACK) meaning CURSED SLAVE!!! JACKAZZZZEZZZZ
@christinecarmichael244
@christinecarmichael244 Год назад
100% agree, also building up our community and helping the homeless, etc and I can go on and on.
@Jedi_Black
@Jedi_Black Год назад
@@christinecarmichael244 Need to keep the money in the community.. build our own neighborhoods, police our own neighborhoods.. so on and so forth.. CultureBanx noted When you read that African Americans have $1.4 trillion in spending power, it's an incredibly impressive number. Even more so when you realize that's more money than Spain, Mexico, Netherlands, Turkey, or Switzerland generate annually. The African American population has historically held an extremely powerful position in the retail marketplace, as they have been known to drive trends across food, beauty, media, and more. Their influence will continue to grow as their buying power does - which is projected to reach $1.8T by 2024
@gordonchance9716
@gordonchance9716 4 года назад
Shalom my sister it's time you tell the truth about who the Massiah is so that you don't get condemn with the wicked he's alive and watching all who telling lies about him and his true people and the situation surrounding them speck the truth without favour because he said only the truth shall set us free Halleluyah.
@MixtapeKilla2004
@MixtapeKilla2004 2 года назад
''Why didn't Columbia University NOT contact Bishop Nathanyel of IUIC to come and speak at Columbia University on this topic?'' If Columbia University would have invited him, it would have been a very fruitful discussion on what we should do from a biblical perspective... 📖🙏🤵⛪
@sgtslaughter21
@sgtslaughter21 Год назад
These ppl don't want the truth we already know that
@tyroneharp2304
@tyroneharp2304 Год назад
Yes. Then some truth would be talked about
@thesquid2794
@thesquid2794 Год назад
And Pastor Dowell, Watchman, Issachar (Journey man and woman) and Pastor Stephen Darby! He did a sermon on the Black churches called “the Black Gatekeepers and Blueprint” and asked why the Black churches have told Black people who they were with sermon “WHO ARE WE & THEY JACK US”!
@cactusqltr
@cactusqltr Год назад
They ain’t doing nothing if they don’t have The Honorable Louis Farrakhan’s input! The Nation of Islam is NOT tax exempt and we use our money to produce for Black folks! Seems like they may want to lend an ear!
@pamelasmith1953
@pamelasmith1953 Год назад
@@cactusqltr We are not Ishmael nor Islamic we are the Biblical Israelites and Farrakhan knows that.
@marquishalsell
@marquishalsell 2 года назад
Am a praise and worship leader in the black church and I see a huge change in our background the real ones are always put in the firey furnace and the fake ones are always put at the top and there's a huge separation instead of truly coming together it's hard to get some things back together as it originally was musicians are more about themselves and singers are more into the spotlight and glamour it's favoritism and who can dance or shout the best and more am looking for change and praying for revival to restore us like never before it's happening but not as fast as I really wish but ik that soon a change gon come fr fr
@Ricogrime
@Ricogrime Год назад
It’s like that everywhere it’s institutional 😊
@kelvinburks7195
@kelvinburks7195 8 лет назад
No one research what they preach. Many rehash what was said in the past by those who taught them. With all their degrees they lack the truth of knowledge of the degree.
@LadyCharity
@LadyCharity 7 лет назад
Exactly, lots of intellectuals creating their own doctrine sounds like to me.
@aronsanchez6999
@aronsanchez6999 6 лет назад
I have notice this in Hispanic Evangelical Churches too. Some pastors have no background in theology or biblical studies.
@bouquetoffood8918
@bouquetoffood8918 5 лет назад
Amen Kevin!
@dr.andmrs.phibes7454
@dr.andmrs.phibes7454 Год назад
The subject that tripped everyone on this panel had to do with classism in the church. Here you have a number of renowned scholars from the upper echelons of black intelligentsia who make their living pontificating in ivory towers or praying amongst the wealthy. There is no one from the block at this table, no one from the hip-hop community, no spokesperson for the formerly incarcerated seated at this table which was assembled at not in a Harlem library but in prestigious Columbia University.. The black church has lost its power because it has segregated itself with well heeled elites who travel to the hoods of America to pray and then leave. The houses of worship are not sanctuaries for the marginalized who live around the buildings. The churches are in the hood but they do seek out nor do they welcome the people IN the hood. Churches speak about Washington's woes but they are not usually involved in the crisis of gang warfare or meth dealing in their own communities. They are divorced from all of that. This sorry phenomenon is slowly suffocating the black church on a national level.
@debraparham-mcclure811
@debraparham-mcclure811 Год назад
Well said and absolutely true!
@mizzobjectiveone3819
@mizzobjectiveone3819 Год назад
The people from the "block" are too busy creating single parents, using drugs and partying. Most of them are not in the church. They're in prisons. They left the church years ago.
@watitduful
@watitduful Год назад
Agreed. The black church and its leadership, as an institution and function, is out of touch to say the least.
@caroldennisbetts6921
@caroldennisbetts6921 Год назад
Where is Jesus? Who are these people talking too? What language are they speaking and where is Jesus? This seems to be a "buy into my jargon" contest. Are they attempting to reach someone? With who's message? The gospel's complexities are sufficient without us introducing new terminology to the discussion that no one will understand without reading your book. Where is Jesus. Preach Him, teach Him, if you have to pontificate, pontificate Him. The Spirit will reach the masses.
@manrightchea
@manrightchea Год назад
No they don't want real solutions, if they did IUIC would be here and they are mortally afraid of that discussion.
@lindaharris3432
@lindaharris3432 2 года назад
People are looking for Jesus to be the head , and they looking for truth !
@jeffreydurant5869
@jeffreydurant5869 Год назад
Black church worshiping a white Jesus and celebrating they pagan holy days is a joke
@maryriden2941
@maryriden2941 3 года назад
Training don't mean a thing if you don't have the right tools
@thomasyoung5680
@thomasyoung5680 Год назад
This is a worldly conversation I am shocked we have lost site on holiness for acceptance
@claudettealexander-thomaso7234
@claudettealexander-thomaso7234 2 года назад
WoW- I would LOVE for THIS conversation to take place right here and right now, in the third decade of the 21st Century with this same panel but including Drs. Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan , via clip or Zoom if possible. In fact, it would be amazing if they could moderate THIS panel! My entire family grew up in the church and Ouwee, the stories we could tell! How can one walk in true faith without love? LOVE IS ALL♥️ (1Corinthians 13:13)
@dkn1362
@dkn1362 2 года назад
You could leave Farra-CON out this, he pushing black people to follow Scientology.
@bgordon1273
@bgordon1273 Год назад
You are right but they will never include Minister Farrakhan or Pastir Jeremiah Wright. The people that are financing them is a white Universities. These 2 powerful Black men were ousted by Jews. So, whoever Jews hate- Black people bow down and hate them too.
@choc8088
@choc8088 Год назад
Truth
@brownsugako7772
@brownsugako7772 Год назад
Also, Pastor Talbert Swan seems to be just as radical as Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan and is right up my alley. He's not with the BS either!
@benniekittles1364
@benniekittles1364 Год назад
Real repentance is the first step. Action with real repentance is second.
@cdwifey94
@cdwifey94 10 лет назад
Was not Paul called by Jesus and did he not preach Jesus to the non-Jews? If homosexual isn't a sin neither is lying, adultery, stealing, fornication, murder, etc.
@timnel333
@timnel333 5 лет назад
These progressive preachers are progressing themselves out of the truth and into the lie.
@bouquetoffood8918
@bouquetoffood8918 5 лет назад
Amen Timnel!
@watitduful
@watitduful Год назад
These are workers of iniquity. Most if not all these individuals in the panel belong to secret brotherhoods and sisterhoods.
@fayejenkins4754
@fayejenkins4754 Год назад
The "Church"...Jesus is not coming back for the "BLACK CHURCH". He's coming back for His church... His Body of Believer's.. The word black church, don't sit right.... I understand the community of the black church, but people are people... All race has issues in there churches...satan is the father of confusion, he comes to steal, kill. and destroy lives... Jesus have Mercy on us all.
@bdardy
@bdardy 10 лет назад
Wow! Great discussion Ladies and Gentlemen. Due to bigotry and hypocrisy, I left the church a few years ago , but I appreciate this discussion greatly! My hat comes off to each and everyone of the panelists!
@Leyenda1
@Leyenda1 2 года назад
Explain the bigotry part.
@pearlhanson3590
@pearlhanson3590 2 года назад
Since Hypocrisy and Bigotry is interwoven in just about every corner of society brethren, I do empathize with you. Nvthls I humbly recommend that you continue seeking the Spiritual relationship through STUDY: 2 Timothy 2:15. Dear friends I humbly submit. Two (2) MINISTRIES where the Gospel is delivered with inclusion grace support. Therefore I invite you all to the Holy Spirit led empowered CHURCHES. 1. REVISION SDA CHURCH online every [Biblical] Sabbath 2. SAVED TO SERVE [Biblical Studies] and. PROPHECY AGAIN online every Biblical SABBATH. You can only be empowered by the Divine Word when you are BORN AGAIN. ACT 1:8. Peace and Blessings is the VICTORIOUS - More than CONQUERORS. Regardless of our Trials this is for those who have an [desire] EAR to HEAR. Amen.
@pearlhanson3590
@pearlhanson3590 2 года назад
Homosexuality lifestyle isn't an issue of FEAR but rather a matter of MORALITY and DECENCY and ORDER. LIKE it or NOT. That includes FORNICATION ADULTRY GRIFTING etc. To all Sinning it is to REPENT "Go and SIN no more!!
@thadiscypal8874
@thadiscypal8874 2 года назад
They are paid to lie. It’s so simple.
@marymitchell741
@marymitchell741 Год назад
That's Right Sir, Love Our Neighbors As Ourselves, Amen..We Are Supposed To Follow That Daily, Daily.. Amen
@whatsgoodtv2195
@whatsgoodtv2195 2 года назад
I will say yes, once the Black church take federal dollars it threatens their free tax status. This prevents them from speaking out against anything relative to Black people. We see no representation in church. The government has muzzle the Spirit of Jesus in the church. No turning tables and kicking any hypocrites out because keeping the IRS out of the church in my opinion has been seen a greater gift to the church
@epic6434
@epic6434 2 года назад
Seems like the black church is more of a bee hive than a house of Jesus Christ and house of the honorable reverend so and so. You spilled the wine.
@whatsgoodtv2195
@whatsgoodtv2195 2 года назад
@@epic6434 I walk in the Spirit of my Ancestors.. 😵‍💫😜
@anthonygilbert5138
@anthonygilbert5138 Год назад
What government money are you talking about
@maryfrances1307
@maryfrances1307 Год назад
@@anthonygilbert5138 Tax free status. The church also took money to push the jab on it's constituents.
@KrystaNalis
@KrystaNalis 12 лет назад
I agree!! :) In fact, this is one of the things the speakers touched on. One thing I do not like about church is that there is so much condemnation and conviction; preachers trying to guilt people in to serving God the way THEY want them to serve Him. I've seen it in my church as well! And this kind of behavior prevents believers from having that truly personal experience because they are too busy worried about "what PASTOR may think"! It's so annoying...and these guys are annoyed as well!
@lindaharris3432
@lindaharris3432 2 года назад
Read for yourself and study . Focus on pleasing Jesus and Him only . Then you will find peace . Shalom .
@VTEC313
@VTEC313 11 лет назад
what we need to do as a people is stop building these damn churches and start building libraries & school.
@ivydaniels5302
@ivydaniels5302 2 года назад
That’s true…. But as a slave in survival mode…… you’re just glad to a light bill paid
@bgordon1273
@bgordon1273 Год назад
Hallelujah
@maryfrances1307
@maryfrances1307 Год назад
What we need to do is keep God's commandments.
@ivydaniels5302
@ivydaniels5302 Год назад
We need our own economy…. And I say again… a people that won’t treat you right will not teach you right and you can church that all you want…. Don’t y’all know if the oppressor believed in the Bible like he brainwashed you to believe you won’t have all the racism and bigotry…..you need to be saved alright…. But you first need to be saved from your self and his brain washing
@deerosser3079
@deerosser3079 4 года назад
They don’t use such jargon when speaking to black congregations but do when being checked and questioned about their roles and behaviors
@darnellscotton6811
@darnellscotton6811 Год назад
Rev Otis Moss is on Point! I feel for our Small Churches in our Communities.
@DL-ri2vl
@DL-ri2vl 5 лет назад
Malachi 2:7 [7]For the priest's lips should keep knowledge, and they should seek the law at his mouth: for he is the messenger of the LORD of hosts. These so-called pastors and preachers should be teaching the people the Laws of TMH. Simple as that!
@lindaharris3432
@lindaharris3432 2 года назад
Amen
@jasir73
@jasir73 Год назад
Amen!!
@coolchil1
@coolchil1 6 лет назад
I have a Christian background and the question to the death of the Black Church has already been answered, they need scholars from the Consciousness Community to explain why.
@ettaadams8842
@ettaadams8842 3 года назад
I am just glad they had a conversation. We pray we can all evolve to a more effective understanding and Wisdom.
@kimberlys.sanders4666
@kimberlys.sanders4666 2 года назад
@@ettaadams8842 Well said!
@epic6434
@epic6434 2 года назад
What does that mean? Death of the black church? I'm not sure what to think about it.
@tyronerowesr4219
@tyronerowesr4219 2 года назад
IT'S NOT THE CHURCH... IT'S THE LEADERSHIP IN THE CHURCHES...."MINISTER TYRONE ROWE SR".
@cholli4141
@cholli4141 Год назад
Keep it real. A lot of young folks don’t want to follow rules to get into Heaven. They are changing the black church.. the church will change because of 💴 💰💴💰💴
@ivydaniels5302
@ivydaniels5302 Год назад
What are the rules to get to heaven….. and who’s rules…… you mean the slave masters rules…. With All the bigotry they have for us…. Really…. Hey y’all ant got no heaven to put anyone in…. Y’all don’t have a say…. After this world y’all finished and that’s a FAct
@Master_Ses
@Master_Ses Год назад
Getting to heaven is a gift of grace through Christ, you can never gain that by following rules
@cholli4141
@cholli4141 Год назад
@@Master_Ses how do you get the gift of grace?
@DJ-yf3ob
@DJ-yf3ob Год назад
You sound like a Slave Master. A lot of young slaves don't want to follow rules, they are changing the plantation.
@abramlittle7102
@abramlittle7102 Год назад
@@cholli4141 healthy body n mind
@andrewgoosdy3814
@andrewgoosdy3814 Год назад
Be like a Doctor Martin Luther King who fought for the poor people rights
@dj4Reel
@dj4Reel Год назад
we like to call him by his name today , Don King the con artist fooling his tribe 🤣
@Turquoise_Chain
@Turquoise_Chain 10 лет назад
What's this all about? I thought God was the head of the church? I thought "God was in control", with that in mind, how can a bunch of humans deliberate on the future of any church? Somebody, talk to me!
@brownlawgirl
@brownlawgirl 9 лет назад
They cant. This is vain nonsense.
@stwoods25
@stwoods25 5 лет назад
Absolutely correct
@adamszennann8237
@adamszennann8237 5 лет назад
The church is a joke!..just look wake up! Open your eyes,wake up. Are you not sick of milk only don't you want meat. They don't care about our salvation.all they care about is money.the church is a business. They are not, not, not teaching us the truth...wake up! There are more churches in the the hood then anywhere and people are people are being murdered everyday on the streets. Are people are lost and hopeless. It don't matter if the church is big or small or what's going on in side the church it's what going out side the church. You ask someone to talk to you so I did. I hope this help you understand.
@wmnoffaith1
@wmnoffaith1 5 лет назад
The church is people. People who follow Christ. What they mean I think, is, is the church going to continue to be a viable money making opportunity for people who want to scam others, ask for seed money, and put on an entertainment and fashion show. Actual church, as we get closer, esp. to the end times, will be tge way it is in other countries. Real believers will get together in people's houses to pray, worship and study the bible. The minister, if there is one, will be like Paul, and not take or expect a salary. Real Christianity won't go anywhere, no matter what color the people are, but the church scam will be going somewhere, and soon I hope
@chicagoliightsx
@chicagoliightsx 5 лет назад
RU-vid Dr. Ray Hagins - What is Christianity?
@jonathanbenisrael2501
@jonathanbenisrael2501 Год назад
Proverbs 21:16 “The man that wandereth out of the way of understanding shall remain in the congregation of the dead.” There is not one thing that is done in the Black church is of Christ. In fact, it is the antichrist. Its pride is at the crossroad and likely block the road of righteous, for pride is a powerful thing.
@aw5815
@aw5815 2 года назад
I would like to see how many pastors continue the work of Christ if they were NOT being paid. All the money would go to the upkeep of the building and the community.
@UnoGodCUdontU
@UnoGodCUdontU 9 лет назад
I wish he was on this panel, but whoever chose this panel purposely didn't chose a heavy hitting preacher.
@theblackoracle5748
@theblackoracle5748 Год назад
The buildings sit empty from Monday-Saturday. Our children could be taught real history and life skills Mon-Fri. At night, the homeless could have a place to sleep. On Saturdays, the buildings could be used as markets for folks to sell their homemade items. Vans could be used Mon-Sat to create jobs for Black men....transportation service and delivery services. Infrastructure is sitting there unused while a large number of Black people are wallowing in poverty. Black folks are the majority in the projects and homeless shelters.
@rsmith7589
@rsmith7589 Год назад
There are rules and if the world steps into the church then judgement begins. “And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise” (John 2:16). Watch: "CONSEQUENCES OF ABANDONING THE BLOOD OF JESUS | MAY 10, 2020 - GLOBAL SUNDAY SERVICE" on Repent & Prepare the way. Amen
@theblackoracle5748
@theblackoracle5748 Год назад
@@rsmith7589 You obviously don't know that religion is man made. You were born in a prison with no walls and no chains. Find the origins of that which you beLIEve is true if you are not to afraid the look and think for yourself. Blissings
@rsmith7589
@rsmith7589 Год назад
This man made disease needs a supernatural power to be healed. Watch: "The Prophets of the Lord decreed healing in the mighty name of Jesus & Leprosy is totally cleansed" on Repent & Prepare the way. Amen
@maryfrances1307
@maryfrances1307 Год назад
The Holy Bible instructs us not to buy and sell on Saturdays in Nehemiah 10:31 Exodus 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Let's remember and keep God's commandments.
@rsmith7589
@rsmith7589 Год назад
Just released: “MEGA GLOBAL SUNDAY REVIVAL SERVICE 19/9/22” on Repent Australia. An update on the little girl who had leprosy. Amen
@cpope3391
@cpope3391 9 лет назад
While I have enjoyed this discourse, unfortunately you all seem to miss the mark....IF you are lending that The PRACTICE of Homosexuality and like sins(Fornication, etc...) ARE NOT SINS, and IF you are saying that it is ok to PRACTICE the lifestyle, and that the CHURCH should NOT in love lend that the practice is, GAY or STRAIGHT wrong and that we must repent of those sins, Then you have missed the whole purpose of the Gospel, no matter the intellectual acuity you all may possess...Nonetheless I did enjoy the discussion...
@shieldsff
@shieldsff 9 лет назад
you are correct,... sadly, they have become so single-mindedly focused on the issue of social ills and injustice, they really have begun to neglect the power of individual re-birth and the primacy of the sanctifying role of the Holy Spirit and his personal guidance
@cpope3391
@cpope3391 9 лет назад
Shieldsff I fully concur with your statement....Social ills and injustice has clouded some of us as it relates to The Hagios Pneuma's purpose in our lives, which does indeed cal us to serve our brother, but this is something else....
@JesusisaMuslim
@JesusisaMuslim Год назад
"When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land." Jomo Kenyatta
@top10aj9
@top10aj9 Год назад
ITS SAD WHEN I SEE MEN TRY TO MAKE SENSE OF A LIE
@arbitrarylib
@arbitrarylib 3 года назад
Black churches don't teach Bibilical principles and basic information for new or old Christians. It's just rehearsed sermons without any other understanding.
@dondreytaylor8001
@dondreytaylor8001 Год назад
The problem with the black church (as someone that grew up in it), is that there's a whole lot of talking and not enough doing when it comes to mobilizing the community. I agree with the first lady who spoke that mentioned that the Church's role is to build up the community around common causes. The black church is suppose to be an institution, that's suppose to pass on black values and ultimately address black needs within local communities. Now it's just preaching for the sake of preaching/money/status and ultimately it's purpose has now been to maintain the status quo. It's become a leech rather than one that helps. With the bigger churches co-opted by political parties/media. The black community in my opinion will need to (and likely has already started doing) is to re-think the black church/institutions and start building them up around our community needs. One of the speakers said the problem is that the black church has been faith and no love. I'd argue that it's been all faith and no action.
@wrightcargle
@wrightcargle 3 месяца назад
I got rescued by in a Pentecostal church, the Father knew exactly what I needed when I needed it. I started going to a non denominational "Baptist" church, was molested by the minister. I came to other churches here and found lots of politics, lots of policies, lots everything except what I need which is Word, how to apply it to my life, what to study if I choose to. I decided to do a deep dive into religion and found what I needed to know, man has a way of messing up the simplest of concepts. Teach me how to follow the Fathers law using His teachings. Your loosing people. I spend time now just sharing the Love of the Father.
@debwright3190
@debwright3190 Год назад
🥱🥱🥱Listening to this same rhetoric for the last decade, same old soup different bowl.🙄🙄🙄
@RevADavidGriffin
@RevADavidGriffin 12 лет назад
I was thoroughly impressed and enlightened by the level of 'truth' I found during this discussion. My hope is to dialogue with these persons at a later opportunity, or at least read some more of their thoughts. Thank you to the panelist and Columbia for posting this.
@RBSMinistries
@RBSMinistries 12 лет назад
Thank you for this post.
@mrcummings2339
@mrcummings2339 Год назад
Giving in to temptation doomed the church - Allowing the destruction of the black family Abandoning issues pertinent to its membership - racism, poverty, injustice, medical apartheid - Now people see the church as just another business venture - 🌅
@Tritonprince
@Tritonprince Год назад
There were small nuggets thrown at the church, but for the most part, they all talked over the Churches head. In the words of King Agrippa or was it Felix whom told Paul: “Much knowledge has made thee mad.”🤪
@Tritonprince
@Tritonprince Год назад
I stand corrected it was Festus whom told Paul “with a loud voice, Paul, thou art beside thyself; much learning doth make thee mad.”
@erinmarque751
@erinmarque751 8 лет назад
I love Jesus, but I ain't listening to Paul! Wow! that's amazing. If you agree with that you have to toss out about 80% of the New Testament. If you do that what's the point? Plus they spoke of homosexual affirming churches as if that were the only option. All sin needs to be addressed, and will cause offense to the sinner. It's a disservice to not inform sinners of their eternal destination without The Savior. This video wasn't a waste of time it was a unique look into the upper levels of predominantly black churches which aren't prosperity gospel.
@erinmarque751
@erinmarque751 8 лет назад
Uhh, yeah. Sure.
@edithlong1260
@edithlong1260 Год назад
We are finally enlightened as to who we really are. We are the true Children Of Elohim. Now we are waiting to go Home. We are a Nation.
@TheResse561
@TheResse561 5 лет назад
The woman with the fro was making perfect sense. Especially her insight about the Blak church and community. The younger woman just sounded like she was giving a dissertation. We know you're highly intelligent, but could you give it to us in layman's term?
@bowe1978
@bowe1978 3 года назад
Both the Women were too busy pushing a female leadership and male replacement agenda to make any sense to me and many others.
@steveh603
@steveh603 Год назад
She's the only one that really hig on something.
@tenpin2387
@tenpin2387 3 года назад
Such empty big wards,is the church supporting black neighbourhoods,though, putting money together buying up properties,help repair elderly people's homes,cleaning up neighbourhoods, eating healthy,
@springsoflifeministries2396
@springsoflifeministries2396 6 лет назад
When you look at the ministers representing black churches, then one can understand why this is the case. People don't want to live for the Lord, they live for themselves. And those who follow such leaders can blame no one but themselves.
@lindaharris3432
@lindaharris3432 2 года назад
Amen
@maryriden2941
@maryriden2941 3 года назад
You respect people with out judgment remember you can't change anyone until you change your self
@watitduful
@watitduful Год назад
That’s not true because that presupposes that once, for example, I change them others will change. Last time I checked, every individual has free will. If I choose to follow Jesus and my cousin chooses to literally follow satan then what does that have to do with me?
@tingastar10
@tingastar10 5 лет назад
You church dignitaries really don't understand, neither can you relate to the negative everyday plight of many of today's so called black people. I grew up in the church, however I have withdrawn myself from this institution as I was no longer been edified by these pastors.
@gregorywynn3244
@gregorywynn3244 2 года назад
After listening not much was being said. Just touching lightly on certain subject but more on compromising. Many black churches are closing or dying because of religion and not the true teachings of our people. So, The rocks are crying out. Teach the truth and live by it. The missionary is in the community and not behind closed doors. Feed my sheep. Teach the true Identity of our people to our people and take your thieving hands out of their pockets. Feed my sheep. Explain who we are Blblically and not religious traditions of man. We are Judah. Start their. And while you are at it. Start with Genisis 10, Deutoronomy 28 chapter. To become who we are meant to be as a people, look at 2nd Chronicles, 7:14. Luke 19:40 is what's happening as well. Acts 2:17 must I also add that thus is the beginning of the church age. Where did all the denominations come from. If we learn our true identity than, we shall know the path to take from their. Hosea 4:6, Isaiah 5:13
@denisebyrd5379
@denisebyrd5379 Год назад
Amen and Amen!!
@soshousing
@soshousing Год назад
Why don’t we start with leaving religion out of church! Religion is man made, and I think that is the basis of why a lot of people are not participating.
@marvaff6878
@marvaff6878 Год назад
Completely unrelated: the lady on the left - her hair is GLORIOUS!!
@Drheartresponsecpr
@Drheartresponsecpr Год назад
Rev. O Moss! Speak true to facts! I don't care how much you disagree with your brother! But when you come around mother your attitude have to change.
@joydavilar4506
@joydavilar4506 10 лет назад
Booooooooooring!
@Renman78
@Renman78 11 лет назад
Amen bro.
@marymitchell741
@marymitchell741 Год назад
That's Right..A GODLY RESPONSE.. AMEN
@sgtslaughter21
@sgtslaughter21 Год назад
Not completely but it's dying fast when our Lord returns he'll do the rest. Jeremiah 23:3 Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD The truth is NOT in these lying church houses even the Bible tell us that...The truth is in the streets on the highways and byways like it or not
@NtheNow
@NtheNow 11 лет назад
The question is not if the "Black Church" is dead, the real question that should be asked is, is there anywhere in the Bible that speaks of Church based on color? My reading of the Infallible Word of God, says the Body of Christ has many members but is yet one Body. Therefore, I must conclude that there is no African, European, Asian, Hispanic, Jewish, Greek, Russian, Italian, Indian, Australian Church. There is only one true Church which has many nationalities, that being the Body of Christ!
@johntheprofessional5039
@johntheprofessional5039 Год назад
Sadly, this conversation is even more relevant 10 years later here in 2022.
@antuanjones6248
@antuanjones6248 Год назад
No hospital No school No business No Word No Works
@theladyandsonplus2
@theladyandsonplus2 2 года назад
The Bible is our doctrine and all doctrine should be based on the Bible.
@gordonchance9716
@gordonchance9716 4 года назад
Shalom he said come let us make man in our image after the likeness Genesis 1 verses 26 to 27 and as we continue reading the Almighty bless Abraham and his seeds and generation Abraham ,Isaac and Jacob generation are the children of Israel that had been misplaced to the the four corners of the earth Halleluyah.
@stwoods25
@stwoods25 5 лет назад
As this went on I became.more and more disappointed with what they were saying, with very few exceptions. Ofcourse the church should love, but not the kind they seem to be exposing. The Bible is the basis for our faith and everything we believe. It's where we get our doctrine. Not just the Gospels but all of the New Testament (and Paul) and Old Testament. Jesus handpicked His disciples so that they could continue what he started. So be very careful about some of what they are saying. Gods word goes before anything that these people might be saying, which is based on their own social and cultural experiences and education and not necessarily on the Bible.
@kurtisbaylor4322
@kurtisbaylor4322 2 года назад
The black church is not dead, the dead that are preaching who's hearts are hardened who steal from the word and lead the flock astray, lining their pockets!
@matthewwilliams1486
@matthewwilliams1486 Год назад
I wouldn’t step into one!Especially if they are under the leadership of a woman ! Matt
@prophetjesiahharrison2360
@prophetjesiahharrison2360 6 лет назад
The question should be is Christianity dead. The structure that hold everything together is Christ & His culture.
@214lokey
@214lokey 6 лет назад
Prophet Jesiah Harrison that's real it's only one church we are the church it ant no white church or black church it's just the church
@valu1827
@valu1827 4 года назад
Lovey- Ok we’ll go visit local churches around your city. You will clearly see there are white churches and black churches.
@hiltondavis1121
@hiltondavis1121 Год назад
Do your research.there is No JESUS .fool .
@cookeycutta23
@cookeycutta23 Год назад
They Needed Anthony Browder there. Phil Valentine, James Smalls. Etc
@vincentwilliams5271
@vincentwilliams5271 Год назад
The black church will never die
@rachelwinter1404
@rachelwinter1404 Год назад
A panel of business men. They run some of the most successful businesses in black communities.
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