Is The BMW M140i The ULTIMATE Hot Hatch? 

It's great 👍🙂👍

Love it.

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hampshirephoto I listened through headphones and it sounded great. Heard all the snaps n pops 👍

Cheers for the coffee today mate? 😉 😂

Gtfo. I’m sure we’re all in agreement over the new M135i and how bmw have lost their usp but you’re either lying or are absolutely bonkers if you’d rather have the prev gen 116d.

I-PREFER-THE-116d I’m not lying

Cupra gang 💪🏾

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What’s the best cupra to go for tho? 290 7 DSG speed or 300 6 speed DSG?

Scott C all depends I would say get the dsg fuck a manual but I have a 1.4tsi cav Ibiza cupra 7speed dsg it’s all personal preference I think

@@ScottPC I've got a MK2 Cupra R manual and absolutely love it!

Nik Gnashers so, you’re on the fence then Nick? 😂

@@samcourt6228 Yes I'm undecided Sam lol !

Perfectly said

I think if you want the best all rounder - you’d buy a Golf R. Can drive it all year round and have no issues, and it’s so hopelessly boring it doesn’t stand out. Shame the Golf is the worst hot hatch going ( in my opinion)

@@CJax749 I have been driving RWD BMW's 'all year round' for over 20 years my friend, with no issues :-) If the weather is so bad that a GolfR might 'just about' get to places where a BMW won't, then in my opinion, you shouldn't be driving any sort of car, just stay in !

I think he is talking within the last 5 years or so. The Clio was a cool car. V6 in the back.. and RWD. Probably the closet thing to an M140i in terms of spec, yes, but miles apart in terms of performance, like you say. The Gen 1 was a lil snappy! Just like the 140 without a diff I guess 🙈

you calling 350hp hatchbacks 'budget muscle cars' has really changed my perspective lol

Lastname Firstname golf TCR 👍👍

+1 for the megane. Loved mine

Smc and they don’t cost silly amounts to run either. I quite fancy an M2, but it’s quite a jump from my M140i to get into one.

I have a stage 1 Cupra and I sort of agree. IMO I'd likely drop you in some back roads, front strut makes it SO responsive and it'll beat a stock 140 in a straight line. But a stage 1 140 would just blow it out the water in a straight line, been up against a mate with a stage 1 m240 and I just couldn't keep up. If it didn't sound so much like a 4 cylinder it'd be the perfect car.

@@AJR-gg I agree with all the points you made. The m140 just doesn't inspire confidence through the corners and I would struggle to stay with not just the cupra but any of its rivals down a B road. I was struggling to keep up with my mates stock golf r and ive got 130bhp more than him! With an lsd and suspension upgrades i think it'd be a different story however. As long as you're happy to mod cars then the m140 is the way to go

For the prices of a good cozzy you could have an rs6🤣

@@jamboSAFC It's worth it though 🙂. It's my dream car.

Escort cosworth was a homologation special built for rallying, never really intended as a production car, I wouldn't call it a hot hatch.....far more special than that

@@richiebtime489 It's denfinely a special car but it's been classed as a Hot Hatch too many times to not be one. But it is so much more then that.

Soulless? The 140 is the opposite of that. Its completely unlike all the other hot hatches. It doesnt handle the best (megane / type r there) but has a mega engine and RWD. It will never be "the fastest" around a track, or had the AWD advantage a RS3 has, but it has put a smile like no other car on my face. It does need modding from stock to truely make people appreciate it (noise especially), but it would require a very, very special car to make me sell mine. I absolutely love it. I've driven all the other hot hatches, and they are all very good. But IMO they are all mostly from the same cookie cutter (AWD hatches, or FWD hatches) and drive pretty similar to each other. People say the steering doesnt have the best feel, but M3 UCA/LCA and a strut brace make a massive difference, and you end up with a car that steers beautifully without power interfering with the steering like every single other hatch. Being able to adjust the rotation of the car with your right foot. Being able to have fun like no other hatch (drifting it out of tight corners). Its a proper hooligan car once its had a few tasty mods. It's in it's own class. "Muscle Hatch"

I have never heard anyone say the M140i is soulless. It's the polar opposite! Even completely standard it's unlike any other hot hatch out there. I know, I've had most of them haha. It's by far my favourite.

They aint soulless just not as raw as some hot hatches and thats a good thing for a daily driver, a few mods and they can be mental.

In what aspects is it better? I’m trying to figure out what to get myself super hatchback wise

They fall under shit cars 😂

Shahid Hussain 🤣 come on man I love my mk8 st but there’s no chance this car is in the same category, needs its own division

Sam Fullick 😂 tbh fiesta st is a fun car but you’re right not in the same level

Think youll find there called hyper hatches.. its been a thing for a while lol

mike walling ah really, didn’t know that to be fair. The video says hot hatch so..

Owned three rear drive BMWs over the last 10 years or so, im still waiting for the the winter of doom that everyone talks about with regard the BMW

@@markrhoden68 same. I'm on my 4th BMW and never had an issue in winter. traction off, careful with the throttle and no issues. Usually said by most people who can't drive a FWD in snow themselves.

Mark Rhoden same here. My E90 330 didn’t kill me in the snow either...went up to see family at Christmas in 2014 and it snowed it’s arse off. The M1 and A61 were covered and we made it in one piece as did my brother in law in his Z4. My M140i didn’t kill me much last winter either....the throttle isn’t an on/off switch.

@@samcourt6228 im guessing the myth that BMWs will kill you in the winter is a rather over used joke made by people who without driver aids would have crashed long ago. When i passed my test back in the 1980s ABS traction control etc etc didn't exist and im still here

Think the points been missed here.. I own a BMW and yes driven it in the snow, I’m still alive also.. I am mealy stating that a car to be the ultimate hot hatch to me would have to have all year “Uk” around abilities.. an M140 does not have that.. brilliant on bone dry roads but terrible trying to make quick progress in the wet / damp roads.. a 4wd car would disappear on a twisty B road in these conditions.

The other cars you mention will handle better than the m140i. In standard form, the m140i does not handle as well as it could. I guess bmw didn't want to produce something that embarrassed an m car. The ultimate handling hot hatch out the showroom would be renaultsport megane with a cup chassis.

I love my mk2 cupra R

I’ve got an m135i LCI - I smile every time I drive it. That 6 cylinder never gets boring

Don't think you could go wrong with either- they're both monsters.

my 240 is being deliveried on wednesday.trust me mate,we've made the best decision.b58 gang all day

Should have gone for golf

imran javed I had the mk7 r already preferred a change tbh

Adaptive dampers is an absolute must if you do many miles. I binned my 140 off after 8 months as the standard dampers were shocking. If you do 3 miles a year just for Instagram, who cares, but I do 2500 a month. Standard nav is garbage also.

Mine has pro nav, but no sun roof.

nah, pretty numb steering, too much understeer. One of the fastest, yes, but far from the ultimate hatch.

Biased, maybe. I own this exact model on an 18 plate. It’s properly epic, performance, sound and if you want, it’s tuning potential is limitless....

Meganes are fwd 4ws, not 4wd.

The reason why I started following this channel is because of the golf R I was kinda shocked when he said he was selling it regarding the money spent on it but hey it's each to their own

All autos, all driver interaction removed, all boring.

Track Time Videos I suppose you’re right but that’s the modern car

All I can see is a four pot child

Sounds better than any 4 pot golf crap have you heard how utter shite the golf r sounds its an absolute fart can

@@Magezzz ... I own a Golf R ... it’s ok if your still driving your brothers camry... my comment still stands Do me a favour.. go like my comment... go!!!

@@user-xl4pb5wo1g lad you're watching a UK channel no one drives "camrys" over here and you don't even get the m140i, which blows the golf r out the water. 6 cylinder sounds better than any 4 pot I've owned both and 6 cylinder always sounds miles better

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Apart from the RS3 is slower and not as fun to drive 🤣 S3 is the same as the Golf R far to common for me

Pheasant Pluckers son you probably are a Audi driver and ‚fanboy‘ ?!

Pheasant Pluckers son RS3 367hp is exactly same speed as stock M140

Pheasant Pluckers son ? I didn’t get it, sorry

The m140 stock is fast, and it has the B58 engine, which is capable of getting close to500 Bhp with minimal tuning, then its an incredibly fast car. I can’t remember when I last saw an m140 Audi S3 and Golf R on the other hand 🥱 I’m an M2 driver BTW, but saying the M140 is leagues behind an RS3 is delusional tbh I won’t say any more 🤐

Yes me too, an M140i stock (apart from an 'invisible' remap ; WITHOUT a stupid pops & bangs map). I think the next step is an M2.

@@DjNikGnashers was going to go for an m140i but never bothered in the end.was behind an m2 with an after market exhaust recently sounded angry!

Chris those are not hot hatches. Rs3 maybe but its not a 3 litre is it ? And doesnt look as good

Chris i disagree the rs3 is is just boring and ugly

Chris the vlog is about hot ‚HATCHES‘ !!!

Chris i don’t know what your personal problem is - I’m sorry for you All the best

Its a long way from being perfect. As standard they handle poorly, this one is auto (yuk) and the steering and manual gearbox are far from best in class. Good engine amd a good base if you want to modify but nowhere near being the best hot hatch as standard.

The A45s have some noise to them too trust me

Autos are for the elderley

There are already loads running stupid power , the 6 cylinder closed deck ,forged engine is a masterpiece

Of course you did 🤦‍♂️

He would recommend anything German but realistically they don't make the best handling or most fun cars.

@@tracktimevideos5164 And you need to be a rich kid to afford them, and to run them, at that age.

Not a drivers car at all as standard, needs lots of mods for that. As standard they are fqr too uncomposed and blobby feeling.

@@tracktimevideos5164 whilst they do suffer from poor handling, there set up makes for a very interesting and unpredictable ride, which is a refreshing change to the other HH out there with all there trick AWD systems. Bilstein Kit, downpipe, stage 2 map and for under 2k in mods you are driving a 480bhp weapon

@@relentlesspursuit6894 i don't disagree thatt they can be vastly improved but as standard they would be lucky to get in the top 10 of hot hatches. 👍

@@tracktimevideos5164 depends how you measure what makes a good HH - its top 10 for sure! Ignoring the 55k RS3 & A45 it's the quickest straight line, along with being the only 3.0 6cyl the B58 being one of the best engines around), and the only RWD - in my books that alone puts in top 5!

@@relentlesspursuit6894 perhaps you are only including cars made in the last few years? There are many, many more focussed /driver orientated hot hatches from recent times and 10-15-20 years ago.

From the mid 60's to the early 70's BMW used "ti" to indicate twin Solex carbs, "tii" indicated Kugelfischer fuel injection, which was a mechanical system....

Yes mate I've just had mine done do it yourself buy your license and then your maps it really easy to do and you can choose your maps and switch from 1 2 or 3 i personally went for map 3 and its awesome.

If you're talking about the dsg "fart", no it won't. You need a decat or sports cat to make the 140 fart. Stock, the upshift fart is hardly noticeable and only happens at 3/4k rpm so nothing when redlining unfortunately. Go to 5:48 and you'll see what it's like. Very very subtle at low rpm only. Only thing I didnt like about mine.

D Jibby ahh ok fair enough, i think ill leave remapping the gearbox on the m240i then and losing my warranty on it. Might get an rs3 saloon next so I’ll have all the dsg farts then 😂

@@SH7SH7SH7 I went s3 for the same reason 😂 (and awd)

Also helps if it handles well, which these don't

@@tracktimevideos5164 No, a hot hatch should be able to do it all, ie be a sensible family car, comfortable and practical when needed, then a weapon if required. The M140i is much more comfortable than it's rivals, and when required can be a very entertaining and fun car. THAT is what a hot hatch should be. If you want the ultimate performing and handling car, buy a fucking real sports car.

@@DjNikGnashers you are right to an extent but the M140i is far too flawed to be considered much of a hot hatch at all. More a mini GT car and that is not what hot hatches are about. No need for the peasant-like swearing too please, it's just a discussion

@@tracktimevideos5164 I'm 'over' 50, I work in the motor trade at a main dealership, so I think I'm quite qualified to have an opinion. What you said about the M140i is too flawed is just your 'opinion', and I think it's wrong, so I am disagreeing. This is how I discuss things. A hatch, is (or should be), a sensible family car, comfortable for families, kids, shopping, and suitable for daily duties. A hot hatch, should be all of the above, but with a bit of fun thrown in, and a quicker turn of pace. It is not supposed to be an ultimate track day car from the factory. It needs to be comfortable for long trips, which is why it doesn't come with deep bucket seats as stock, it needs to handle the bumpy, pot-hole riddled roads in every town & city, not be a rock hard, lowered, spine breaker. You don't seem to be able to understand this simple concept. If somebody want's a mega-handling, superfast car, buy a Caterham, or a 911 etc. I remember the original hot hatchbacks, the Talbot sunbeam lotus and similar, but millenials haven't got a clue and think a hot hatch has to be a sub 4 second AWD, rock hard riding, weapon, lol, it's actually quite amusing. When they gain knowledge, experience, and maybe actually work in the motor trade for many years, they will learn why they are wrong in thinking the way they do at this present time.

@@DjNikGnashers you are entitled to your opinion. You didn't come across as someone of 50 years when throwing swear words into tbe mix. I have worked in the motortrade for Mercedes, VW and independants but wouldn't go back now. Most people that work in that field are actually very disinterested in the subject and very few sales people know anything about what they are selling despite "being in the motortrade for 30 years" etc. Personally I value the opinion of enthusiasts and journalists far more. You seem obsessed with comfort but that has never been what a hot hatch has been about. It has always been about a fun and practical car with a decent turn of pace that can be used daily as any or the current breed of hot hatches can. We will have to agree to disagree. There is loads of choice in this category of car and you would be hard pressed to find a truly bad car but it depends on what your priorities are in regards to speed/practicality/looks etc are.

Go get the PCW MOD done ASAP! I’ve got a ppf m240i and it sounds way better now. PCW mod is £300 fully worth it and won’t affect mot/servicing at all! Check my channel out for a video of it

Shahid Hussain I’ve heard so many good things about that place. My uncle keeps telling me to go there. He’s had a few cars done there too. Very competitive price! Will deffo get it done very soon.

Getting rid of the PPF would affect an MOT, just don’t touch that or the CAT and you’ll be fine.

Just got 1 absolutely ace, like a really quick gokart

But the way it looks... oh gosh!

@@f00lxpl I think it looks brilliant, but am in the minority!

Uglier, slower, less reliable engine, ugly steering wheel, you pay more for the m140i for a reason.

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Yes, because everyone loves a car which doesn't get out of shape, and has a low rent interior don't they ? People who value FUN above outright pace, get FUN cars because they are FUN people. Boring twats buy boring cars like a GolfR or RS3.

@@DjNikGnashers you seem very angry, typical BMW driver I guess.

@@tracktimevideos5164 You seem like a stupid, typical, idiot who thinks all BMW drivers are like the silly, stereotype, that stupid people (like you) believe they are. What's exactly in my comment, came across as 'angry' ? I'm a long way from angry, in fact, I'm laughing here, at your stupidity.

Also boring after a while🤷‍♂️ something a bit fun about getting behind the wheel of a car that wants to kill you every time.

Since when exactly? It puts the power down from a standstill better thats it. Rwd is more balanced. King of super cars is rwd, the 720s and has been for a long time. More cars going awd cause people feel more secure with it so it sells better. M140i is better than the new m135i which is complete garbage and sounds crap

Boring and ugly looking. Sound average. Plus it’s not a euro so ehh.

The steering feel of a E46 BMW is awesome comparing it to modern BMW and many other cars, and the Audi/VW steering was always boring and still is. Of course the E46 has less comfort, one with a performance suspension is pure pain, but I miss the funny times with that car. All new cars feel numb and sterile.

Still a 4 cylinder. The m140i can be tuned to simular power than the A45s. It’s a cool hyper hatch but way too expensive.

BemaRoxtv and a stage one a45s has achieved 500hp and 0-100km in 3.3sec on joe Achilles channel. Something m140i will never be able to match. Add in the better looks and tech it doesn’t compare

Nick Ng Nick Ng Wow the M140i can’t launch as quick as an A45s. If you’re into driving fast, launching a car from a standstill isn’t really a priority unless you want to drag race. The M140i can easily be tuned to 500bhp and way more tourqe than the A45s. Oh, and let’s not mention how the car sounds being a 6 cylinder. Smoother, more tourqe and a sound the A45 will never be able to match. I’ll take a slower 0.60 time for more fun car overall. Oh, and 20,000 less. No brainer.

BemaRoxtv lol how else you gonna compare to other pp on the road apart from traffic light Grand Prix? Enjoy the a45s beating you each time every time. A45s better tech better brakes better handling. Yea if your short on money go for the m140i which isn’t even in the same league as the a45s. M2 I can admit is more of a pure drivers car than the a45s and it is priced similarly to the a45s anyway

BemaRoxtv that i6 in the bmw doesn’t even sound that good imo, with a resonator delete the a45s will sound just as good with pops and bangs. Nothing compares to the v8 in the 63s