Is the Chrysler 8.25 really a weak link in your Jeep xj?

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How tough is it!
8.25 tube diameter: 3-inch
8.25 ring gear: 8.25-inch
8.25 axle shafts: 27 spline/1997 and newer 29 spline
Basically, the pre-97 8.25 is stronger than a D35, but not by all that much. The 97+ 8.25 is much stronger than a D35 and is actually comparable to a D44.
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@Lray4x4 3 года назад

If you have an older 27 spline 8.25 you can put a 29 spline carrier and shafts in it, also a disc brake conversion will keep the axle from walking out if you break one, you can get the disc brake parts from a Jeep Liberty. I have 97 XJ with a 5.5 RE lift, Dana 30 front, 8.25 rear, 4.56 gears, Spartan lockers in both ends, 35s and stock axle shafts. Never broken anything other than a shock mount, shocks, and bent control arms.

@cherokeeronnie 3 года назад

Yeah I know a guy it did he said it was a headache he should of just bought one 🤷🏼‍♂️

@Lray4x4 3 года назад

@@cherokeeronnie What was a headache, swapping carriers? Its not to bad if you have the right tools, and if your running larger tires you need lower gears, so you would have to pull the carrier and set up gears anyway.

@dustysteele5408 2 года назад

@@Lray4x4 why 4.56 instead of 4.88? Also, I’m thinking about doing the disco brake conversion. Were you able to just get everything from the Liberty? How did you make your wheels work? Drilled rotors, wheel spacer adapters, or just different rims with liberty bolt pattern?

@Lray4x4 2 года назад

@@dustysteele5408 4.56 because on 4.88 gears the pinion gear head on the Dana 30 is really small, 4.56 gears are stronger. For the Disc brake swap Liberty backing plates and everything else bolts right in and the bolt pattern is the same.

@dustysteele5408 2 года назад

@@Lray4x4 okay, awesome!! Thank you for your help.

@GoatOffroad 3 года назад

Running 29 spline 8.25 with disk brake conversion 4.88 gears and ARB locker. Part of the fun is knowing what you got and wheeling appropriately to it’s capabilities. We don’t get crazy on the skinny pedal and honestly with dropping the tire pressure and locked front and rear can just about go anywhere.

@billmatson8711 3 года назад

8.25 spartan locker . Daily driver and mud buggy . 31" maxis buckshots No complaints

@trishalouonthedriveway6027 3 года назад

I currently have the 8.25 on my 99. For the most part she is a daily on a 3 inch lift and 31's. The untimate plan is to get better shafts and go to 35s with the Dirt Bound Offroad Flares and 4.56 gearing. Condsidering 4.5in Long arms as well. Go with more of a Low COG weekend warrior type build. The trail rig is the BFs. 86 CJ7 that is now on custom Dana 44, Dana 489 that we ordered from East Coast Geat Supply 2-3 years ago now. On 35's.

@sicks36 3 года назад

Still have dana 35 on 33s. Just waiting for it to fail. Have 8.8 on standby ready to go. Keep up the great content.

@saintsmc1 3 года назад

Awesome channel CR!

@aaronstewart7126 3 года назад

Dana 30hp/chrysler 8.25 with 37s. Only mud and drive it daily to work

@ProjectXJ 3 года назад

Its hard to fit 37's on an XJ. How much lift?

@aaronstewart7126 3 года назад

@@ProjectXJ right at 10

@ProjectXJ 3 года назад

@@aaronstewart7126 wow that is tall!

@aaronstewart7126 3 года назад

@@ProjectXJ pretty tall but we mostly just mud ride and need the height and ground clearance

@unsparingkarma 2 года назад

@@ProjectXJ u can fit 37s with as little as 3 in but 4.5 works better check out my gulches video and see my buddys jeeps one is on 37s on 4 in other 35s on 3 in

@zachneeson2608 3 года назад

8.25 with a posi rear end

@raisedrelentless2190 2 года назад

1996 post June manufacture date has the 29 spline. Mine is a 1996 manufactured in August and it has the 29 spline axles

@ProjectXJ 3 года назад

If you have the dana 35, definitely get either the 8.25 or the 8.8. I like the 8.8 and think its a much better axle, but if you are on a budget and want a direct swap, the 29 spline 8.25 is a great option. My fully built 8.8 swap only cost me $580 plus $325 for a detroit locker. All in all, i have a super strong axle with a truss and disk brakes for $900. I am happy with my decision.

@EddieDegone-ud1xo Год назад

94 Cherokee, running a 8.25 with chrome alloy axles, 4:88 gears, spartan locker with 35’s. Just blew out my locker and trying to decide which way I should go for a new locker.

@oldowl4290 2 года назад

Would this possibly be a good option for a 94' Yota ex-cab 4x4 v6 pickup? My rear diff is leaking at the 3rd member to pumkin seal pretty bad so I have to drop the drive shaft and pull out the axles to then pull the 3rd member just to replace it. So if going through all that I'm thinking of trying out a different (used) axle and the Jeep 8.25 is on the list of considerations since it has a removable back plate (mine doesnt!). How wide is the 8.25 from flange to flange.. not counting brakes or anything. If I could get a few more inches of width it could be an option for me.

@justingomez2379 6 месяцев назад

I daily drive my 1996 dodge Dakota on 33..it's the 8.25 27 spline love it..and a little 4x4..

@davidahrens1269 3 года назад

D30 front D44 rear torq locker in both axles with chromoly shafts no problems doing anything but I’m only running 33s

@DesertRunner602 Год назад

I have a 96 8.25. Can I just upgrade to 29 splines or do I need the entire newer axle? I'm new to offroading and I'm would like to know before I start buying parts. I also want to run a detroit truetrac 29 spline, if it's compatible

@BenWebster84 2 года назад

Dana 30hp/8.25 on 35s with 3.73 gears. 3-link long arms in the front and a 4.5" RC lift in the back

@yusufwilliams6160 10 месяцев назад

Hi im having major problems with my zj 4.0 98 4th ecu ...junk yard ecu 1st one no coms.went through some water 2nd one burnt pc board third one im geting spark but no pulse on injectors...fuel pump works just no power to injections

@runningfree4897 6 месяцев назад

So I have a 1995 xj with an 8.25, 27 spline in the rear. Would I be able to upgrade my carrier and put 29 spline axles while keeping my housing? The only axles I can find online are for 97 and up. I’m just not sure if those can fit in the housing. I haven’t been able to get a solid enough answer to go forth and I would definitely appreciate some advice.

@4-WHEEL-DRIVE 8 месяцев назад

I have a Dana 35 non C clip , thats why I have it and I’m running only 32 inch tires

@Tylerjschmidt 3 года назад

I haven’t seen a lot of people do this. But if you can get a hold of a Dana 44 limited slip out of a grand Cherokee. That to me is a great upgrade other than 1 tons.

@ProjectXJ 3 года назад

The only downside to that is its a dana 44A. Meaning the center section is aluminum. As long as you truss it, it should be fine.

@GF_Burke 3 года назад

Wish the 98xj I just bought had a c8.25. Rear is the 35 with 456gears. Front is hp30 lunchbox. Dude put on 32s with a 3in lift. He's been beat'n it up with no issues yet. We just hang out in the Owyhees so maybe it's fine.. idk. Shit, my race days I was running an 8.8 with 355 gears, street slicks, laying down 450hp in my fox body. Never an issue at the track.

@K2snowXJ 2 года назад

Dana 30 is great. 8.25 is great. both to a point. I’ve never daily driven anything but my xj’s since I was 15. never did an axle swap. Dana 35’s are junk, you can only polish a turd so far. I run 29 spline 8.25’s in all my xj’s. 33’s are the sweet spot for this axle. big enough to get you that diff clearance, small enough that you can get away with a little more skinny petal. they daily drive well too, even with stock 3.55’s. Dana 44’s are great, but if you’re gunna axle swap, 8.8 I think is the best non full width option

@TOBAYSON 3 года назад

manual 99 xj , Dana 30 spartan , 8.25 w / arb in the future

@danhambrick6331 3 года назад

I did a 8.8 swap in my XJ,but only because mine had the Dana 35.If it had the 8.25 I would have just upgraded shafts.I am running a PowerTrax Grip Pro ,4.56 gears and 35's.

@ProjectXJ 3 года назад

Yeah i probably would have kept the 8.25 too, but i had the dana 35. I love the 8.8 though and it was a pretty cheap swap, doing it myself.

@40Spec 3 года назад

Dan How is the 8.8 with the off centered diff work? I’m trying to decide between the 8.8 and the 8.25 and the off center diff seems like it could be a hassle

@ProjectXJ 3 года назад

@@40Spec its about 2 inches off center. It really isn't a big deal. It gets close to the exhaust but it doesn't hurt anything. If you wheel hard, i would go with the 8.8. If you are just looking for something decent that bolts right up, go with the 8.25.

@hobbymaster5929 3 года назад

Looking to do an 8.8 axle on my 91 xj just for a fun project.. I hope I don’t regret it cause I already got my 8.8 with lsd and 4.10 gears 😂

@lorneneilson 3 года назад

Did one in my 89 a couple months ago. I love it.

@hobbymaster5929 3 года назад

@@lorneneilson Was it difficult to fine tune and get driving?

@lorneneilson 3 года назад

@@hobbymaster5929 no just order the install kit. It was about 100 bucks. Pretty easy

@lorneneilson 3 года назад

@@hobbymaster5929 you will need to cut off old brackets weld on new spring perches and shock mounts. It all comes in the kit. Also comes with new u bolts and hardware.

@tombair1401 2 года назад

8.25 29 spline is very close to the strength of a dana 44 if you truss it very strong not worth the money to me to change it .the dana 30 low pinion on my 2001jeep cherokee different story .

@ifitsnotbrokenfixit1193 3 года назад

Had the 8.25 and a D30hp with 33's no problems. Until i let a buddy use it. I sold it after that.

@gregj.gotham4402 3 месяца назад

Bet ya no one borrows another.

@jackbower8671 3 года назад

What all does it take to go from a 27 spline to 29? Can I throw a 29 spline Spartan in and upgraded 29 spline shafts and call it a day?

@ProjectXJ 2 года назад

Its as easy as swapping the shafts and the spider gears. Everything else is the same. Might want to think about a locker if you are in there swapping out the spider gears, you can add a lunchbox locker for cheap. 🙂

@jackbower8671 2 года назад

@@ProjectXJ So the bearing sizes are the same for the outer?

@ProjectXJ 2 года назад

@@jackbower8671 it should be because the tube size is the same.

@jackbower8671 2 года назад

@@ProjectXJ I only say that because the shafts are different sizes

@ProjectXJ 2 года назад

@@jackbower8671 my guess would be that it necks down at the bearing. Most shafts neck down by the bearing/flange. I haven't had the two next to each other to compare. But comment on here if you find the answer, that would be good to know. Its not something i have to worry about since i have a ford 8.8 rear axle. 🙂

@DocJeep1 2 года назад

Can you swap a pre 98 Chrysler for a post 98 one?

@ProjectXJ 2 года назад

Yes, direct bolt in!

@cherokeefit4248 3 года назад

I wanna swap my 8.25 for a D44. Maybe a bigger one if I can find it before the D44.

@ProjectXJ 3 года назад

There really isn't much difference aside from the ring gear size. 8.25 vs 8.5.

@cherokeefit4248 3 года назад

Good luck running 35’s on a 8.25

@ProjectXJ 3 года назад

@@cherokeefit4248 i am sure it can be done if you are careful. I think the shafts are the same size and the tubes are the same size. The ring gear is the only thing thats different and you most likely break a shaft before a ring gear. Edit: 8.25- 1.21" Dana 44- 1.31" So they are close but the 44 is a little bigger.

@tombair1401 2 года назад

Your really not gaining much 8.25 with 29 spline is very close on strength i would truss 8.25 because of cost

@officialWWM 2 года назад

How do I identify which axle I have?

@cherokeeronnie 2 года назад

What year you got

@officialWWM 2 года назад

@@cherokeeronnie 98.

@ProjectXJ 2 года назад

@@officialWWM the 8.25 has a flat bottom. The dana 35 only comes on models with anti-lock brakes. So check if you have abs and if you do, you know its the 35.

@officialWWM 2 года назад

@@ProjectXJ ahh, thanks. Mine doesn’t have ABS, so I assume it is a 8.25? Mine does have factory lsd though.

@MegaMarclar 2 года назад

so basically, the d35 and the d30 shafts are close to the same. the 35 is like 50 thousandths thicker. but the weight rides on the axle and not directly the bearing. the d35 gets a ton of bad rep because of the weak tubes causing the C clips to break of. the 8.25 is substantially superior in many ways.. MUCH larger bearing journal, thicker tubes, few more splines. really, its comparable to a D44 in many ways. I forget you xj guys have to worry about axles walking out.. you can actually just slap some disks on it from a ZJ D35, and forget about that problem.

@levibrook6962 3 года назад

Ok why does this picture look like the one I bought off of Facebook market place. It was literally the same photo

@levibrook6962 3 года назад

I have a 8.25 with a powertrax locker on 30s

@DocJeep1 2 года назад

Sorry, I meant a 97'. I'm a greenhorn! Lol

@aaronthompson718 Год назад

Not all d35's have c clips, ALL c8.25's do 🤷🏼‍♂️

@kevinbolden8780 3 года назад

8.8 all day, running 4.56 gears on 35s

@ProjectXJ 3 года назад

How do you like 4.56 gears with 35's? I am running 4.10's and want to go to 4.56. I worry that if i go to deep, the dana 30 ring gear teeth will be too small and more likely to break.

@kevinbolden8780 3 года назад

@@ProjectXJ it has a super small pinion and you have to file/grind a bevel on the spur gear on two teeth to fit the pin in. Some time will tell so far so good though, I'm guessing that weight helps since it's so lite.

@Formerlywarmer 2 года назад

Where do the 8.8 come from… explorers?

@cherokeeronnie 2 года назад

Yup

@Formerlywarmer 2 года назад

@@cherokeeronnie got an 8.78 Mopar from a 70 road runner about to go in mine. Both are 53” to the backing plates and it already has 4.88 so I’ll never need to worry much about the rear. Front is a lil different but I’ll see how much the stock 1990 model will tolerate.