Is the CSB a Gnostic Bible Translation? 

You’ve taken the time to give a logical, well-laid defense about why the CSB is not gnostic. I would be surprised if the commenter you are responding to even understands what Gnosticism truly is. Chances are he’s just parroting what he’s heard the Ruckmanite/Riplinger proselytizers say about EVERY Bible that’s not the KJV (including, and perhaps especially, the NKJV). According to them, if a version contains the word “Jesus” 37 fewer times than the KJV then it is a gnostic heresy straight from the devil.

Good to hear your wife is doing well now. 🙂

My your wife have a speedy and full recovery. Sorry I missed such a good live episode. UK time, I was asleep.

they think any bible that primarily uses the alexandrian text is gnostic…. stupidity.

We'll pray for you. I could write a book about Gnostics. The TLDR is: I agree with you, and I think you did a good job. I have a limited set of criteria I ask people to show in order to convince me something's Gnostic (also "pagan," "idolatrous," "cult," "heretical," and a lot of other buzzwords), but that wouldn't be as interesting as the Logos stuff. For Logos, I know AI is probably going to get the most interesting for people who listen to the end, but my speculations would get weird and probably not all that interesting, as I share almost verbatim the suspicions you do with a few others. So instead I'm talking about the subscriptions. For that, though, I have to set things up (this will be wordy even for me): I sold crypto earmarked for new equipment at the end of the bull run (we're there). I got more RAM for my aging i7 and am going to create a VM to back it up and prevent from ever reaching the internet so it will keep working. They *might* be telling the truth about continuing support, but every time I've seen that promise made, it's been broken, and when Faithlife introduced the subscription model they said, "We'll never go to a subscription-only system." That was very clearly not true. I don't trust them on the rest. They're moving things along slowly. As you said, software is expensive. I don't see them keeping this promise either. I, honestly, think the company (not the reps who aren't privy) is lying about their plans. This gets to a key problem with the digital economy is that intellectual property is not real property, and it's antithetical to it. Publishing tends to get concentrated, as people want to flock to the same place, because there are more people. People who publish want compensation for effort (for the reasons you stated). For instance, I prefer other sites than RU-vid. I think Google is evil (in the strict, not rhetorical, sense). I can't communicate about this stuff without it, and its negatives are easier to mitigate than something like Facebook which I won't touch. This concentration of people leads them to put restrictions to prevent people from accessing it who didn't pay for it (even though those only really affect paying customers). The mindset naturally lends itself to maximizing their control over what people do with it, and the same DRM to their financial interests is also the same thing that creates walled gardens, so protecting investments becomes "protecting" almost immediately. It's not just books that are done this way: cars, computers, phones, all of them are made with essential DRM-protected components that make it hard to repair and maintain, and for which the dealer retains sole authority. They can, if you don't pay them a monthly subscription, turn off the air bags. They track you, but they can refuse to help you even if your kid was kidnapped with the device if you don't keep this up to date (and, yes, this did literally happen). Protecting intellectual property requires control over other peoples' real property. We're working out the contradiction. It's not a conspiracy. The social structure has implications, and the implications include radically demoting, at minimum, real property. I won't buy any more important works that way ever again. I think we're approaching the tipping point. For the average person, intellectual property cannot be real property if a car can be. Only the elites can have both. This wasn't a problem until we could replicate things digitally, and it's destabilized the whole system. Now there are conflicting interests, and the ones with the most money get the most treatment. The result is likely to be some neo-feudalism which is oriented, not as it was within Christendom where such power had a social check, but into a society which has an entirely different value set. I don't know what it will be, but it doesn't look friendly to Christianity. Now that I've set it up: We have to think about some of these things within the Christian worldview (Bible, patristics, etc; there was no IP 2k years ago). Our commercial society has made some things moral that have always been immoral. Loaning money at interest, for instance, is a serious sin that is roughly on par with divorce or homosexuality for its harm. It is unambiguously condemned in Scripture (e.g. Ex 22.25). It takes advantage of the people who cannot pay, generates wealth from nothing (which would make it "against nature"), and was looked at negatively till just before the Reformation when some Catholic monasteries proposed it. Now we've accepted this so thoroughly that if you say "It's a sin to do any gambling," everyone nods in agreement, even though this is nowhere mentioned in Scripture and rarely in Church tradition. However if you say, "We shouldn't practice usury," despite the unanimous condemnations in both Scripture (it does allow loaning to non-Israelites but with the loss of the wall of separation, that exception does too) and in the Fathers. It's created a western society so addicted to spending that everything from top to bottom is in the red and stacked on a house of cards and made "money" such an unambiguous value that even challenging monetary abuse among "conservative" Christians leads to significant pushback. Property has a certain shape and is to take on certain forms. The book of Jubilees, for instance, required all property return to the owner. Isaiah condemns those who join house to house (Is 5.8). The point of those sorts of laws is to resist centralization and keep wealth (specifically wealth-producing property) decentralized. Property is also aimed at accruing things for children, as you said. God set things up so that parents will save for their children (another thing our usury system does: spend the children's money on the parents), but this sort of inheritance is going to be eliminated in favor of a homogenized, leveled out network of books nobody has real control of. The notes will also disappear so that kids can't get those (even with free software programs like Bibletime or AndBible). As Christians, I think we have come out of the system and contend for changing it into something that more befits Christianity (it will always fail, as Christendom did, but Christendom was markedly better than the Umma or the pagan world before it). This entire system is going built in a way that undermines the teachings of Scripture and the security of future generations.

Extreme kjv only is like Candace owens saying someone was a Frankist because they were from an area that had Frankists. That is the same as saying the critical text is gnostic because there were gnostic around Alexandria.

I'm TR only but I just bought a CSB for my library because it is so well spoken of

Fun fact. All bibles in English that im aware of translated after 1800 have been translated from the critical text which comes from Codex Sinaiticus and vaticanus. These manuscripts contain shepherd of harmas and Epistle of Barnabas, both are gnostic gospels that contradict the rest of the bible.

It was updated in 2020. Romans 3:25 is an interesting translation in the CSB.

My Sunday School class uses the CSB translation. My CSB Giant Print Reference Bible has one error in it- not in the text itself, but in the textual footnotes. In Acts 12:12, is says "As soon as he realized this, he went to the house of Mary, the mother of John who was called mark". There is a capital A beside "Mark" indicating a textual footnote, but when you go to the bottom of the page, there is no footnote for that verse. The only footnote is for verse 25. So, was that A put there by mistake? I'm glad your wife is doing well. A friend of mine just lost his brother last night after battling stage 4 cancer. He lost a twin brother two years ago to Covid.

I don't know about the CSV but the hcsb had some very very strange translations in it and our life group while reading through the the Bible project I can't remember the name of it if it was whatever they were using which I think was the English Standard Version for the hcsb and like nobody knew until I question where the heck is this translation coming from and a bunch of people said yeah that does sound kind of weird and we had to go look and look we think it's the only Christian Bible and I was like who the heck is Holman I had never heard of them before I've been going to this church for 7 years at the time and had never heard of it

Your comment on the end about RU-vid removing comments: I hate that! That's why on my videos I disable comments and in the description I include a link to my blog and tell people that they can comment there, where I have more control over the comments. Comments don't just disappear there. Then again, I don't self-promote much and don't get a lot of comments anyway.

I feel like this video should have just been long enough to say "no. No it's not." Then ended.

Hey Dwayne, how does one join your Discord group?

Does he know the KJV translators wrote “him” in the margin notes for Psalm 12 because they knew the Hebrew couldn’t be talking about the words?

He is incorrect....not all the new Translations come from Alexandrian Texts. The Legacy Study Bible came from the NASB, the NKJV came from the KJV. Does he not realize that the Translators used the Latin Vulgate, a Roman Catholic Text to help create the 1611 KJV? He really should study the history of the King James Bible and read the Translator's Preface in the 1611 because they knew their work was NOT perfect and would need correcting in punctuation, spelling and English Language. Yahweh said the Original Writings would be preserved, not any version created from those texts, that are no longer in existence. So, we have to believe that they have been preserved by different copies that were found over time from the many Scribes.

I Tim 3:16 he was manifest in the flesh is the Gnostic Demiurge Gnosticism presents a distinction between the highest, unknowable God or Supreme Being and the demiurgic "creator" of the material Bing search