Is the Earth Only 6,000 Years Old? | Episode 45 

The problem with old earth creation is that is messes with the original Sin and original adam theology. As well as death.

Magnificent exposition on this topic. I am a Christian and have several degrees in sciences and medicine and I have never heard a pastor explain all this in such a grounded and quite frankly, wise way. I too agree with almost all of it. The disagreement is infimal. But this video is underrated and am sad not many people have watched this video. The Dr. needs more exposure. This needs to get out there into mainstream Christianity.

Dr. Bernard, when it comes to cosmology, I feel that you were remiss in not mentioning Hugh Ross. His books on the creation are absolutely amazing. He came to Christ, simply from studying the heavens.

I have always thought that science is an afermation of the Bible! His analogy of the big bang and "God said, let there be light" is at the foundation of that belief! My biggest problem with the Bible that I have NEVER had answered is this ... "I am the way and the truth and the life, and no one shall see the Father but through me". I just don't understand that! What happened to the millions upon millions, maybe billions of people who were born lived and died that never even heard his name or knew that he ever even existed? Like the people in south America? Or the American Indians? And what about the people that lived before Jesus? Are they all doomed to hell just because of where or when they were born? I would love for anyone to explain this to me! Best wishes to all!

Sir, with respect you need to walk with God and you would never doubt His Word! Why don't you just say that Scientists created God! 😅😂😂😂

Im a little disappointed that the flood of Noah wasn't included in this discussion. If the flood of Noah happened, it explains practically all the things we see such as climates, mass extinction, radical clinate change, oil and coal deposits, the grand canyon

As I stated in a lengthier comment, God will offer His mercy to every repentant sinner regardless of their previous views on science, politics or social issues. For this I am thankful! That said, I find among the most significant theological arguments against evolution (theistic or otherwise) and the required old earth that goes with it, is that of "death by sin" (Apostle Paul in his letter to the church at Rome). If there are millions of years of death before Adam, then death isn't actually the result of sin. If that's the case, there is no purpose for the cross of Jesus Christ. On the other hand, if death is the result of sin as the Bible says, and the fossil record is a testimony to the devastating effects of sin, then Jesus' death has tremendous meaning and implications.

8:12 God did say let there be light on the very first day before the sun was made. It doesn't have to take light years for the sun's rays to reach the planet when God could command light.

GOD can create an earth 🌎 that looks 30 years old but it's actually a minute old....❤

The Bible was not only written such that man could understand it in the plain sense in which its various genres were written, but it's also written from an earth-centric/human-centric perspective. We're advised that God's thoughts are higher than ours and that His ways are past finding out. We need not view the time statements in Genesis as supposedly being from God's perspective. The Bible clearly drives at it being given from an earth-centric/human-centric perspective when illustrating that the 6 days of Creation are the foundational basis for our 6-day work week with a Sabbath every 7 days. That's but one example. Others include "morning and evening," etc.

11:46 The evening and the morning was the first day. When HE says in 6 days HE is lying. If it was in millions of days.

Scientists are not hostile to the Bible story of creation, they just recognize it as fable. -- Saying that everything the Bible teaches is true is false. Later on he qualifies this as theological truth, I can abide by that as 'theological truth' has no relationship to physical reality so it can be whatever floats your boat, or Ark as the case may be. A positive here is his saying that the Bible is not going to relate scientific facts. But will he abandon that when we get to the age of the Earth? He then says "God created the universe and humans" but fails to show us why we should take that as physical truth rather than theological truth. No criterion has been put forth to distinguish the two. Oooh, when talking about the genealogy of Matthew leaving out generations he admits that the text was manipulated to make untrue things seem to be true! He admits that the Bible is spun like a modern political contest! He presents the "Earth created old" scenario, then starts explaining the silly aspects of that concept. His understanding of geologic forces is rather shallow, but he applies the concepts correctly. So he is actually debunking the YEC concept here. Ah, he is pulling out the time dilation excuse for six God days for the 4.5 billion years, but that ignores that the Bible explicitly states diurnal cycles. Eh, he presents the erroneous but common version of the Big Bang, the one that ignores QM invalidating the premises needed to get to the singularity. Will we never be able to purge that "lies to children" presentation of the theory? I do get tired of explaining that the necessary conditions for the theory to be valid fail as you get close to the nominal singularity, and we therefore know absolutely nothing about whether there was an actual start point. Also there was no explosion as most people conceive of that word, space itself expands, not some lump of matter expanding into an existing space. There was not light as Dr Bernard describes it until ~380,000 years after the expansion begins. He really needs to brush up on the theory, he is repeating some rather wrong ideas about it.

Can you do one on the the millennial reign of Jesus Christ?

The question of earth's age can be answered with another question: how long were Adam and Eve in the garden before they sinned?

This is only the second video of this guy I've ever watched and I'm probably done.... He definitely eisegetes the text and brings his own views into his interpretation instead of letting God's work speak for itself.... I read one comment down the list about radiocarbon dating and it's obvious that the writer of this particular comment knows nothing about radiocarbon dating or parent isotope dating. From what I see in the world the lord Jesus is going to save a lot of people who are very wrong as long as they believe that he is the Son of God and was raised from the dead....

Earth made like Adam was. It was made mature. Trees 🌲 were also made mature with rings.

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❤️IF you would have seen and examined adam after GOD our Father in Heaven created him ,adam would have appeared to be a fully grown man and he was ...and not a baby ...but he was created by GOD in that one day . In the same way the living GOD our Father in Heaven made the earth just as written in the Word of GOD in Genesis .it was created by GOD in six days but appears to be much older ,yet we KNOW by the Word of GOD the approximate age of the earth and it is NOT millions or billions of year old but under 7000 years old !!! and you will KNOW the truth and the TRUTH will make you FREE .John 8 vs 32 .Everything was made IN YESHUA and he makes NEW men and women yet just call on him and KNOW him this day ( See John 14 vs 17 vs 21 vs 23 vs 29 after Calling on him and just ask and be given by GOD and SEE and HEAR and KNOW him !!!🕊️

As someone who holds to Creation science and a young earth viewpoint, I can appreciate the perspective shared here. While the Bible does reveal many scientific facts centuries prior to their "discovery" by modern scientists (the water cycle is one of many examples of this), it is an excellent observation that the Bible is NOT primarily a science text. There are certainly many poetic descriptions as well as spiritual views on reality that would seem scientifically impossible. Answers in Genesis and the Institute for Creation Research are both organizations which have bona fide scientists (astronomers, geologists and biologists) who have done first person research that presents a differing and (to the fair-minded) legitimate interpretation of the data and evidence available for our observation. No geologist digs up a rock with a little tag that says, "Hi, I'm 4 billion years old" or, "Hi, I'm 7 thousand years old". Scientific data requires interpretation and the worldview and presuppositions of the scientists involved in the data collection will influence their interpretation of that data. That said, God definitely accepts the repentance of people from every background with any given set of political, scientific and social beliefs. No one has to have it all figured out when they come to Him for mercy and salvation. I am deeply grateful for that truth.

Today's world population points to a very young creation. There are nearly 8 billion people on Earth today, while there were only about 250 million people in 1 A.D..

The reason you can find shells and sea creature fossils in Texas and other not normal places is from the great flood, which would also be how fossil fuel, diamonds, etc was formed so quickly, from the immense pressure and crushing from the flood waters.

How can people be this intellectually dishonest?

1st Timothy 6:20. My Bro. has the truth about water and spirit. Water baptism in Jesus Name, baptism of the Holy Ghost truth along with the truth of the oneness of God!! Don’t try to make God fit the mold of science! We know the word “yom” is a 24 hour day!! When God spoke these things immediately came into being!! Just like the storm on the sea!! No different! If the Lord be God, serve Him!! If science, then serve it!! Bottom line!! Our God is supernatural!! Let God be true and every man a liar!!

I’m still laughing over the lovely earth rotation instead of the sunrise/sunset! But this is one of the best explanations on the possible timelines of creation I’ve watched. Are these sorts of debates important? A few years ago I’d have said no, but there are too many unsaved people out there for whom such issues are a barrier to their accepting the Lord Jesus Christ as their Saviour. As Christians we have a responsibility to be able to at least shed some light on such thorny issues. Many thanks for taking the time and trouble to share these thoughts, I myself am in the not-so-young earth camp!

8:44 sea creature could have ventured out of the sea during the flood. The water did cover the whole earth.

Total philosophical explanations. "the Bible is not intending to teach science"; but it absolutely teaches creation, origins which has to do with science!) "it teaches from a cultural standpoint" The cultural context view is liberal theology. No one was there so you go by what liberal scholars and liberal anthropologists claim.

Watch: Evolution's Achilles' Heels & Is Genesis History? Also, we live in a spiral galaxy. If the earth was billions of years old, the pictures of the milky way would look unraveled or the arms would be “wound up.” Technically according to astronomy, and other issues outlined in Is Genesis History, the earth is 6,000-15,000 years old. I love Bro. Bernard's teachings, but it's obvious that this subject isn't one of his strong points. You should delete this video or possibly update it after more research. I'm not comfortable recommending this RU-vid channel to people I'm discipling now. It's simply erroneous to agree at all with the big bang and evolution. The very foundations of these theories are flawed and impossible to prove. Christian scientists who see the Bible as absolute truth would agree.

The Creation Story from Genesis 1. There are three main thoughts on Genesis 1 and the Six Days of Creation. These are a short list, just three... 1) It was Six 24-Hour days that the Earth and Heavens were created. There are variations that it was only the Earth or only from the time of Adam was a total of six days. 2) It was Six 'Thousand Years' days (the thousand years are more or less, but about a thousand years per day). 3) The Gap. In Genesis 1:1 God had created the Heavens and the Earth. That could have been millions or billions of years ago. In verse 2, God replenished the Earth with life. For those that study this - it is necessary that those that have a view on this they have read The Holy Bible over and over. They have read, studied, and meditated on God's Word. If they haven't done this part, then it would be too difficult for them to understand. That is what I believe is true. Of course, God has to help. It is important to consider the Angels. The Angels were also created by God. The Angels were apparently given FREE WILL. When some of them went against God... that was bad for them because they had become FALLEN ANGELS. A note on FREE WILL. I have often heard theologians and scholars say that we all have a free will, but that is not exactly true. Adam had a FREE WILL, but he fell. We are from Adam and we are already in a bad position. We may think we have FREE WILL, but we actually don't, but a fallen position where we need help from GOD. Enough said there. In Job 38, The Lord tells Job that the Sons of God (Angels) shouted for joy when the foundations were fastened... Job 38:4-7 The Sons of God Shouted 4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. 5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? 6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; 7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? When the foundations of the laid - when was that: what day? Also, when God created The Earth did he make it void first? Or was the Earth already existing as a void? In Isaiah 45:18 he created it not in vain or void... Isaiah 45:18 Not Created in Vain or Void 18 For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the Lord; and there is none else. How long did it take to create the earth from this passage in Isaiah? When did the Fall of Angels occur which includes Satan? When the Serpent was in the garden Satan was already fallen. So when did the fall occur? Also, Neanderthal and Cro-Magnons don't seem to fit. When God made Adam, Adam was intelligent already. Otherwise, if God made man in his own image and if you believe in Evolution, what did God look like? Did he have a Neanderthal appearance, then did he also change in appearance after that? Then there is the dinosaur question. Reading Genesis 1 - I don't see any dinosaurs there. There may have been dinosaur-like creatures in the seas, but not on the land. I never saw where Adam met T-Rex or Triceratops. Also concerning the dinosaurs and science - there were three periods: The Triassic; the Jurassic; and the Cretaceous Period. The Cretaceous Period is when T-Rex and Triceratops were existing. Science has fossils and it is difficult to dispute. Now the fall of Satan is mentioned in Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 - and you have to understand that in the Prophets there are oftentimes multiple applications. Again I say, those that have not spent time reading, studying, and meditating on God's Word; and have not been through the complete Holy Bible over and over... this might be too much to handle. To those that have, then please listen to what I will say. In Isaiah 14 - The Bright Morning Star or Lucifer rebelled against God. In this passage it speaks of The King of Babylon and beyond. This passage also speaks of The Beast that will be at his height in Revelation. Isaiah 14:12-15 Son of The Morning - Similar to Day Star 12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. 15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. The Lord Jesus is called The Day Star by Simon Peter, and he is called The Bright and Morning Star in Revelation by The Lord himself... 2Peter 1:19-21 The Day Star - and The Holy Ghost Inspiring Prophets 19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. In Revelation 22:16 The Bright and Morning Star 16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. The Enemy is a deceiver and tries to act like he's The Lord Jesus. His title as Son of The Morning is close to Day Star and Bright and Morning Star. So for the three main thoughts of creation I have one more passage in the book of The Prophet Jeremiah 4... Jeremiah 4:23-26 The Pre-Adam Days God Destroyed the Earth 23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light. 24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly. 25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled. 26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the Lord, and by his fierce anger. With this passage from Jeremiah it is easier to see the passages from Isaiah and Ezekiel... Ezekiel 28:11-18 The Fall of The Anointed Cherub - and King of Tyrus 11 Moreover the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, 12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord God; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. 13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. 14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. 16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. 17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. 18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. This passage speaks of The King of Tyrus, but it also speaks of the Anointed Cherub that fell. This will also be applicable in the 70th Week. When The Anointed Cherub was in Eden, The Garden of God - that was before Adam was in the Garden of Eden. This is either a different garden or the same garden, but a little different in Adam's time. Again, when did this occur? Walking in the Garden of God. Now, as in Isaiah 14 this individual had a kingdom. This one here mentions that he had sanctuaries. Hmm. He was perfect in all his ways... until iniquity was found. Pride found its way. The devil and pride are closely related. Therefore, I have to go with the Gap. Most modern scholars will go with the Creation of the Heavens and Earth in Six Days, and different scholars vary in that theology. I am in the minority here, but that's okay with me. My reading, studying, meditations, and understanding of God's Word has me to believe that there was a gap in verse 1 and verse 2 in Genesis chapter 1. Salvation is not based on what a person believes on in Genesis 1:1,2 - and I prefer not to argue too deeply on the matter. I will end it here.

😂 Wow brother David also drank the coole' of the scientific concensus. Example, what tool was used to measure speed of light. What tool was used to measure the speed of light travelling from the sun to earth.

I simply take God for his word. He said 6 literal days of 24 hours as in, evening & morning as God said in his word. God cant lie or exaggerate.

The findings of science (empirical evidence of God's handiwork) contradict the YEC *_interpretation_* of scripture. God's Truth, both in scripture AND science is never a contradiction. So, we are left with: *_God, please help me understand your words more accurately!_* 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯

IF YOU UNDERSTAND THE THEORY OF RELATIVITY AND THE STRETCHING OF TIME FROM GODS PERSPECTIVE THE EARTH IS 6000 YEARS OLD (CREATED AND THEN RECREATED) AND FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE LOOKING BACK ITS 16 BILLION YEARS OLD. YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE BIBLICAL BIG BANG THEORY AND THE GAP THEORY. THE BIBLE CONFIRMS SCIENCE

Adam was certainty not 1st man. Scripture means what it says & says what it means. So when Jesus said from the beginning of the creation God made them male & female’ also.. ‘he which made them at the beginning made them male & female’.. Gen1:1 Mk10:6 Matt19:4 Mk13:19 Heb1:10 The wonderful thing about believing holy scripture is freedom from doubt. This act to which Jesus referred was: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male & female created he them & God blessed them’, & God said to them, “Be fruitful, & multiply, & replenish the earth, & subdue it: & have dominion over the fish of the sea, & over the fowl of the air, & over every living thing that moves upon the earth & God said, Behold, I have given you EVERY. ( Yes here it says every read all inclusive ) herb yielding seed which is upon the face of all the earth, & EVERY tree, ( Yes here it says every read all inclusive) in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for food.” Gen1:27-29 But when God made Adam and placed him in GARDEN God was very specific ; And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: ] But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. Genesis 2:16-19 Adam was specifically told v2:17 not eat of Tree knowledge of good and evil. Gen1 and Gen2 are separate accounts. Time betwixt 2event unspecified Jesus was clear also. For He did not say from time of Garden He made Adam and Eve. But rather Jesus spoke on this wise. from the beginning of the creation God made them male & female’ also.. ‘he which made them at the beginning made them male & female Not Adam and Eve, not from the time of garden. Jesus meant what was said and said what he meant Adam and Eve were not in the creation... accept that scripture means what is said and says what it means Man in Gen1 was made From nothing Ex-Nehlio... Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. Yet Adam in Gen2 was formed from dust of ground and Eve was formed from Adam's rib... thus Adam and Eve of Gen2 are not made Ex-nehlio from nothing as were the man and woman in the beginning thus Gen1 and Gen2 are completely different events

I am puzzled. Some parts of the bible I am supposed to take metaphorically, not literally. Others I am supposed to take literally, not metaphorically. Who makes that determination? Me? Or David K. Bernard? And who is he?

He says: “The Bible speaks in language that people understand …and the Bible speaks from the point of view of human experience.” BUT then says the Genesis account from “Gods prospective is 24 hr”. This is a bad argument.

05.49 great confusion comes by equating Gen1&Gen2 garden eden≠earth nor does eat all = all but tree of... Adam&Eve were not first man

You either believe God's Word, or man's explanaton. We all have that choice. You can't believe both.

I am not a Scholar but I love and believe in The Truth of God's Word, as recorded in the Book of Genesis! In The Beginning, God Created the Heaven and the Earth 🌎 Genesis 1:1 In Six , 24 hour day's and Rested on the Seventh Day and Hallowed it 🙏 On each Day during God's Creation , the Bible declares that there was Evening and Morning on each of the Six Day's of Creation! I Believe it is as God's Word say's 🙏 The Theologian sharing here his interpretation according to The Bible, and in his view of So Called Science, when relating that for the Earth to be only 6000+ years Old since the Creation Account in Genesis, then it means that the Light from far away Galaxy's would have taken 1000,000's of years to reach us which means the Earth can't be only 6000 years old !!! Actually , the Answer is very Simple if you take The LORD GOD at His Word! The Fact is that Science like this man sharing his thoughts here has GOT IT BACKWARDS ! The Creation did not begin way way out there over Million's and Billion's of years as the Atheists and even those So Called False Bible Teaches ,who are trying to converge , Evolution into The Genesis Creation Account because they doubt The GOD of His Word! The Truth is found in The Word of The LORD GOD, if only they would take Him at His Word, and come to understand what they or in the case of this Scholar!!!!!!!!! Missed!😮 The Bible clearly say's how The LORD GOD Created in The Beginning! Isaiah 40:22 say's, " It is He ( THE LORD GOD ) ....... that stretched out the heavens as a curtain, and spreaders them out as a tent to dwell in: " All the Stars 🌟 that were created during the 1st Week of Creation , were created on the 4th Day ! They were there at the Creation and in the very presence of GOD to see and behold. Light from these Stars 🌟 didn't need Million's and Billion's of years to finally appear as Science and Theological Sceptics would try to lead us to believe! They were fully visible on the 4th Day of there Creation. It wasn't though until after The Worldwide Noah's Flood, when the Waters in the Firmament that surrounded the Earth were broken up and poured out upon the Evil of Mankind( upon the Earth 🌎 ) and destroyed every living thong upon the land ,save Noah and his Family of 8, that after the Sky's cleared of the 🌎 Worldwide deluge, that Mankind was then able to appear up into the Heavens, the Night 🌙 Sky and see the stars 🌟 that GOD had made 😊 So you see, Science has it backwards Obviously man could only see with the naked eye some stars that later with telescopes 🔭 we could see even more and more! The stars were Already there ✨️ at the Creation as The Bible says, and as the Bible clearly also tells us, that God from the Beginning ,stretched out the heavens, like a curtain...... Isaiah 40:22. And so the heavens are expanding, being stretched out ever since! So my dear Friend's and Fellow Believer's, you can Trust The Bible and The GOD if His Word 🙏 In Jesus Name, Amen 🙏 God Bless you All 🙏

The bible has been misinterpreted by the carnal minds/human minds ignorance of a belief in a life separate and apart from Spirit/God, yet, if Spiritually Discerned as it's meant to be, shows us how to walk out of the appearance of matter, out of the shadow of the Acceptance of birth and death, good and evil(Atheism), and into the Immortal State of Our Being that is Infinite, Perfect Spirit As the Only Presence. The Bible reveals the Unreality of the Material Dream of the World Mind, and the Reality of Spirit/God as the Only Presence, it is not a religious teaching. The Bible is the story of You. Of your journey out of a material/mortal sense of being, into your Infinite State of Spiritual Awareness. What we believe we are experiencing as a mortal being is actually the Binding/Imprisoning of Spiritual Immortality as the Truth of the Activity of Our Consciousness into a Mortal and Material Sense of being. The message of the bible is not for the timid, it is for those who are willing to walk the Earth in Proportion to their Receptivity of Infinite, Spiritual Omnipresence(THE STRAIT GATE)! God is Spirit and Spirit is the Only Presence, and Christ is birthed in us with the Recognition and Realization of this Truth. Therefore, to accept a Material/Physical Reality is Turning Away From Spirit as the Only Presence, and thereby turning away from the Perfection of Spirit/God/Christ as the Shepherd.... I and My Father are One.... I am the Spirit of Immortality/God.... We must see through the physical realm and our false sense of stability about it.... Matter/Form is a False Imitation of Spirit appearing via False Sense of Being. The message of the Christ is to Realize Our own Divine, Immortal Nature within, and it will lead us out of the Veiled Dream of Time and Space. Out of the Karmic Cycle of Birth and Death. Follow me I, the Realized Christ/Spirit of your being across the Mystical Ocean of Time and Space where you don't walk in the world of matter, form, physicality, iniquity, mortality. The Realization of the Christ is inviting us to live in the Kingdom of Heaven Right Here, Right Now, through the Realization Spiritual Omnipresence. We are being asked to live in our 7th Day Perfect, Spiritual State of Being. We are being asked to stop struggling, surviving, searching, and trying to make things happen because we are already complete in the Kingdom of Heaven right here, as Spirit IS THE ONLY PRESENCE, and we must Rest in this Realization. This is HONORING THE SABBATH! To honor the 7th Day of Creation and Rest in it. Ask yourself this question.... Is there a place where I begin and God/Spirit Ends? Is there a place where God/Spirit Ends and I Begin? If you can find that place where God Ends and You Begin you are not living in Absolute Truth, and have thereby turned away from the Reality of Your Being, from Spirit/God as the Only Presence. If you can't find that place you must begin to go much deeper with this understanding. You must live in the Consciousness that right here, right now, there is no place where God Ends and I Begin because I and My Father are One. There is no other you, therefore you must be perfect as your Father in Heaven(Perfect God Consciousness)! You will still have the sense of human mind/thoughts, but it will no longer be the master of your house(Consciousness)! MATTHEW 6:25 Therefore I say unto you, take no thought for your life, what you shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and body more than raiment? Spirit, our Truth of Being will not flow through a Mortal/Material/Finite Sense of Reality. There must be a meekness unto Divine Thought/Divine Sense. Because I Am Spirit I have no human purpose. Form is born of Ignorance, Ignorance is born of Delusion, and Delusion is born of a Dream in which you do not know you are Immortal Spirit..... God is Spirit and Spirit is the Only Presence. Therefore, my Kingdom is not of this Illusory Material World! Not of this Dream of Time and Space. If it's happening in Time and Space it can Not be taking place because Spirit is the Only Presence, the Only Substance. The bible can only be understood when the human intellect is out of the way. When the Christ of you becomes the Interpreter. There are 2 Gods in the bible(because the Mystic Authors placed both the Reality of Spirit and the Unreality of Matter side by side throughout the bible to Develop Spiritual Discernment in the Students of this Mystical Manuscript the material/religious/scientific/philosophical/atheistic world calls The Bible) 1: The One and Only God that is the Perfect 7th day Complete, Immortal Spirit of Genesis Chapter 1 whose only Begotten Son is Christ, which is the Realization that God is Spirit, and Spirit is the Only Presence. 2: The Lord God(World Mind) of Genesis Chapter 2 who formed the illusion of man from clay(material awareness), whose only Begotten Son is Satan, which is/are the never-ending thoughts racing through what you believe to be your own personal human mind, TEMPTING you to believe they are yours, and to believe this world and your form is your reality. Which one are you?? The Realized Christ who is Spirit and walks only in the Realization of Spiritual Immortality in the Kingdom of Heaven Within Right Here, Right Now. Or.... The Natural Man with breath in his nostrils who is Ignorant of his Immortality and thereby relies upon his mortal senses to lead him through what he perceives to be God's creation of a finite, material, decaying, limited, dualistic, illusory world. It seems to me we are ever-seeking ways to run from the Truth of Our Being, from the Constant Knock at the Door of Our Consciousness of Christ Realization, as the Teaching of the Christ of Jesus has not been fulfilled by any stretch of the imagination. Religion/Church does not teach it... Education does not teach it.... Science does not teach it.... Philosophy does not teach it.... The church itself only teaches its doctrine about a man named Jesus because it doesn't know how to turn away from 1700 years of darkness of ignorance.... Yet, they are all unaware of the basic fact of life itself: Perfect, Spiritual Immortality is the only Reality!! Completeness! Oneness! Infinite! Omnipresent! To have even a shred of belief that you(or anyone is)are a Mortal being that is born of woman(matter) and then dies is to deny the reality of your True Infinite Being. Without the Acknowledgement and Receptivity of Spiritual Immortality it doesn't matter what kind of life you appear to experience, be it helping others or hurting others, it is an illusory sense experience, and it does not matter because it is not taking place.....! Until birthing Christ in our Consciousness we will never begin to know God as the very substance of our being because no material man can see or know God. Orthodox Religion teaches a counterfeit salvation. Christ is not birthed in a human body. Christ is birthed in an Infinite Consciousness only! Lift the Veil of Form through Omnipresent Awareness. Peace Be Unto You!

Christ says you shall know the SEASON NOT SEASONS So at the end of the tribb is the only way to know the SEASON Any moment aint a season Noah knew it was the season after the ark was done and the animals showed up But noah and his family died they didnt get raptured and didnt come back for another boat load 7 yearz later Neither will christ What will be the sign of your coming not comings

Great confusion comes by equating (Adam, Eve, & Garden of Eden in Gen2) to (man & woman & earth of Gen1). These 2 accounts are completly different & try make as same is confusion. Scripture is but a love story of a jilted lover & the apple of his eye. Jesus is the Lamb slain from the foundation of this world... So when was this sinful world founded? It was upon the day of Adam & Eve disobedience. For then God discarded Adam & Eve's fig leaves & gave them covering of animal skins.. Of necessity was the shedding of the lambs blood & Christ was appointed as "He who would give his life as seed of woman to save men from their sins" Jesus was clear & precise, doubt not. He drew a line into the sands of time saying: The law & the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, & every man presseth into it., Luke 16:16 There were 4kYrs of sin prior to John & there remain 3k years from Jesus 3 day prophesy of John 2:19: Jesus answered & said unto them, Destroy this temple, & in 3 days I will raise it up. From Christ baptism & anointing unto the anointing- dedication of Solomons temple was one God day of 1000yrs & from that dedication unto Adam's sin is yet another 3000yrs. This can be detailed by OT chronology... but to equate Gen2 with Gen1 is a grave error leading to utter confusion. The time between events of Gen2 & Gen1 remain wholly unspecified by scripture NOR WAS Adam the 1st man, Scripture means what it says & says what it means. So when Jesus said, "from the beginning of the creation God made them male & female’ also.. ‘he which made them at the beginning made them male & female’.. Gen1:1 Mk10:6 Matt19:4 Mk13:19 Heb1:10 The wonderful thing about believing holy scripture is freedom from doubt. This act to which Jesus referred is in Gen1, "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male & female created he them & God blessed them’, & God said to them, “Be fruitful, & multiply, & replenish the earth (not Eden), & subdue it: & have dominion over the fish of the sea, & over the fowl of the air, & over every living thing that moves upon the earth (not in Eden) & God said, Behold, I have given you EVERY. ( Yes here it says EVERY read all inclusive ) herb yielding seed which is upon the face of all the earth (not in garden Eden) , & EVERY tree, ( Yes here it says EVERY read all inclusive) in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for food.” Gen1:27-29 But when God made Adam & placed him in GARDEN EDEN, scripture was very specific ; .. the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden (not earth) you may freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good & evil, thou shalt NOT EAT of it: for in the day that thou eat thereof thou shalt surely die. & the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help fit for him. .. Genesis 2:16-19 Adam was specifically told v2:17 NOT EAT of Tree knowledge of good & evil that was in "Garden Eden" but man&woman of Gen1 had no dietary restriction. Gen1 & Gen2 are separate accounts. Time betwixt 2events is Unspecified .. Jesus was also clear. For He did not say, 'from time of Garden He made Adam & Eve.' But rather Jesus spoke on this wise. from the beginning of the creation God made them male & female’ also.. ‘he which made them at the beginning made them male & female Jesus did Not say "Adam and Eve", nor did He say, 'from the time of garden'. Jesus meant what was said & said what he meant Adam & Eve were not in the creation... we must accept that scripture means what is said & says what it means Man in Gen1 was made From nothing, Ex-Nehlio... Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. Yet Adam in Gen2 was formed from dust of ground & Eve was formed from Adam's rib... thus Adam & Eve of Gen2 are not made Ex-nehlio, from nothing, as were the man & woman in the beginning of Gen1, thus Gen1 & Gen2 are completely different events ... Trying to make Gen1&2 the same just makes complete confusion. This confusion comes by equating (Adam, Eve, & Garden of Eden in Gen2) to (man & woman & earth of Gen1) these 2 accounts are completly different. To try make as same is confusion. Bible is but a love story of a jilted lover & the apple of his eye. Jesus is the Lamb slain from the foundation of this world... so when was this sinful world founded? Was it not upon the day of Adam & Eve disobedience for it was then that God discarded Adam & Eve fig leaves & gave them covering of animal skins.. of necessity was the shedding of the lambs blood. So Christ was appointed as He who would give his life as seed of woman to redeem men from their sins Jesus was clear & precise doubt no more. He drew a line into the sands of time by saying The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it. Luke 16:16 There were 4kYrs of sin prior to John & there remain 3k years from Jesus 3 day prophesy Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up, John 2:19 From Christ baptism & anointing unto the anointing dedication of Solomons temple was one God day of 1000yrs & from that dedication unto Adam's sin is about 3000yrs by OT chronology... but to equate Gen2 with Gen1 is a grave error leading to great confusion. The time between events of Gen2 & Gen1 is wholly unspecified by scripture

God DID NOT create the Sun, Moon, or even a single star in the universe until the FOURTH day of creation. The Bible is accurate scientifically, historically, and in every other way. Quit trying to impose human reasoning over faith in the word of God. You will be WRONG every single time. Read Genesis 1:14-19 carefully "¶ And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: HE MADE THE STARS ALSO. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, 18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. 19 And the evening and the morning were the FOURTH DAY."

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE OF GOD THROUGH REVEALED WISDOM TO MENTION THAT THE EARTH WAS A SPHERE AND WAS 4.3 BILLION YEARS OLD. PS. tell Hamm that dinosaurs and homo sapiens DID NOT LIVE TOGETHER.

Paul quotes from Job 5:13 to show that God catches those who are supposedly wise in their craftiness. He knows all their supposedly wise ideas and teachings will not help them to escape a face-to-face meeting with Him in the end.

***no, it is impossible, earth is billions of our years, 6000 years is when civilisations of men started, the Scripture is correct if you learn how to read it and therefor have a faith strong as a rock. God creates everything in it´s own time (eternal) not in our men´s time, every other creature have a different time.***

For the vast amount of the time, I really appreciate Bernard’s teaching. However, there is a point here that must be approached with caution. Two points here are really good: the first point, that the Bible is not intended to be a “scientific book” and the last point, that all people are sinners in need of salvation via the New Birth. Where circumspection is required is the middle bit. Macro-evolutionists will insist that in order to have a meaningful discussion you must adopt their version of “science”, and it is very tempting (and easy) for those of us who do believe God’s Word as true to get sucked into looking at their “evidence” without thinking critically about what is being said. At the heart of observational science is the concept of a theory being 1) observable, 2) testable, and 3) repeatable. (I’m sure you can see where I’m going with this…and many contemporary macro-evolutionists are DESPERATELY trying to distance themselves from this cornerstone of scientific inquiry). For example, knowing the chemical makeup of vinegar and baking soda we can hypothesize that adding them together will create a reaction, and sure enough, when we put the two together (test and observe), our hypothesis is confirmed. Some other group in another part of the world can do the same thing (repeatable). Thus we can accept as valid that vinegar plus baking soda equals a big foamy mess. But a single celled creature gaining enough complexity to become a multi-cellular creature…pray tell us all…how does one DIRECTLY observe this for millions of years (nope, looking at a fossil record doesn’t count…that’s still a hypothesis that HAS TO BE TESTED)…And, uhm, what about all that information (directions) in the form of DNA that have to be generated to such a degree of perfection that otherwise you end up with…well…a big foamy mess. And as for testing…the theory is that you don’t have to intervene for the building blocks of life to somehow assemble themselves. So to create a test or experiment necessarily VIOLATES the whole premise of macro-evolution. In other words, no the Bible is not intended to be a “scientific” text (per se), HOWEVER , we can easily see some significant problems with macro-millions-of-years-evolution. The more intellectually honest way of approaching this issue is, rather than insisting that students declare that dinosaurs roamed the earth 60 million years ago, say “Hey, this is what we THINK might have happened but we really don’t have the capacity to verify it” rather than…wait for it…wait for it…have FAITH in what macro-evolutionists want to insist is absolutely true…

If the Earth revolves around the Sun then explain what happened when "Joshua 10:12-13. On the day the Lord gave the Amorites over to Israel, Joshua said to the Lord in the presence of Israel: “Sun, stand still over Gibeon, and you, moon, over the Valley of Aijalon.”13 So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, till the nation avenged itself on[b] its enemies,as it is written in the Book of Jashar.The sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day...I put to you Science says that the Earth revolves around the Sun...But according to God the Earth does not Revolve around the Sun...Teach Bible stop teaching falsehood.

I partially agree, trying to prove the age of the universe using the Bible is probably not a good way to approach this subject. It is even more complicated by the fact that the Septuagint and the Masoretic text do not agree on this topic. The issue here is, no matter what your interpretation, you cannot interpret this subject in such a way as to have death occurring before the fall of Adam and Eve.

Not important 1 day with GOD is like a thousand year or enterinty.GROW in GRACE and LET GOD conform YOU to his Image.daily growth.

"KEEP THAT WHICH IS COMMITTED TO THY TRUST, AVOIDING PROFANE AND VAIN BABBLINGS, AND OPPOSITIONS OF SCIENCE FALSELY SO CALLED" ( 1st Timothy 6:20; KJV Bible).

Doesn't matter the age. When God made Adam. He made Adam with age. When Adam was a few minutes old, he looked like a mature young man. When God turned water into wine. He made aged wine. How do you make the best wine ? You age it. God could very well have made the earth with age already in it . Important thing is that God made the heavens and the earth. God bless.

sea creatures in Tx....er something called a flood....

The riches that seem money is NOTHING from what GOD HAS SHOWN HIM

If things from the Bible wouldn’t be true 200 to 500 years from now… Then they’re just not true! 🤦‍♀️

Love you, Bro. Bernard, but I don't agree with you. Scientific evidence is theological truth. In Mark 10:6, Jesus said, "But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female." KJV If Jesus was telling the truth, that Adam and Eve were made during the period the Bible calls "the beginning of creation," and you believe in an earth that is billions of years old, you are saying that the first 5 days of creation must have taken billions of years, but the sixth was either a 24 hour day, or a very short period of time, because the Scriptures tell us that Adam lived 930 years, not billions, millions, or even thousands of years. Does it make any sense to view the creation "days" with such inconsistency? Further, the idea of billions of years explaining the geological changes and fossils of the earth ignores the science and history of the worldwide flood, of which many credentialed scientists find evidence. And, if fossils existed billions of years before Adam and Eve, that means death occured before the first sin. This is obviously false, undermining the Gospel, and the main reason a biblical understanding of the age of the earth matters. Christians often support taking the Bible at face value (it says what it says,) for doctrinal positions. We err when we do not also apply that analysis to Genesis. I understand that just examining biblical geneologies alone do not prove the exact age of the earth, as some generations were not recorded, or "skipped," but 6,000 to 10,000 years is reasonable, as the ancients kept precise records of births and deaths.

according to to genesis 1: 4 god made the stars , so this tells me that the earth was in creation before the stars were made. so the earth technically is older than the stars by four days. the earth is older than the universe

Keep it simple the moon is round, so we eventually found sun round, so its pretty much the standard.

WATCH "DR LARRY OLLISON PRE ADAM ". THE BIBLE ANSWERS THI QUESTION.

If even at the speed of light if an object is further away than the distance light can travel in 6000 years we should not be able to see it - yet we see plenty of them. This does not detract one iota from my faith in the Creator, it's just a nonsensical misunderstanding of the Bible and really quite unimportant.

True, but people can misinterpret.

Interestingly enough, Jesus turned water into good wine in an instant (John 2).

Slly people will never learn the guy trying to move the goal post.s to suit himself

i have thought deeply into this and i thought exactly the same on the start of the war of lucifer and god. but i thought the war was still going on only lucifer had been kicked out of heaven. i found it stooped that he was kicked out of heaven and Adam and eve were booted out of the garden all in the same week or year depends on which way you look at it. too this day nobody knows how long they spent in the garden only that they were there

God did not say a Day was 24 hours. He just states it was an evening and a morning. ItI could have been Any amount of time. All we know for sure it was an amount of time. also the Bible is not complete. There are books missing.

His ignorance is staggering.

Doesn’t a long creation week require deaths before sin…? If so, it’s not a viable solution.

If death didn’t begin after Adam’s sin, why did Jesus have to die? I don’t expect an answer and I know I won’t get one.

Yes. It's 6 thousand years not 4 billion years

If the Bible and science conflict, why do we change our perpective on the unchanging Bible and not the every changing science?? Does science rank higher than the Bible??

Im still waitin on an original comment and not just another interpretation of the bible...

There's no evidence whatsoever on how old the earth and the universe is,if there was a flood, where did all that water go to, people saying that humans and dinosaurs were living together, are nothing but idiots 😂

After the creation of man and woman in six days God blessed the seventh day. In between the fall of man in sin and finished creation there were very vast gap of time even billion years.

it teaches Existence and what we dont understand is on us...

Thank you so much in the name of Jesus! This has put my mind to rest after such a long period of contention even causing arguments and putting my faith to test!

INTHE BIBLE GOD TELLS US A DAY TO GOD IS A THOUSAND YEARS TO US! SO IF THAT IS THE CAST HE CREATED THE EARTH IN GOD'S TIME WOULD BE 6 DAYS BUT US IT WOULD BE 6000 YEARS OLD. ON THE SEVEN HE RESTED.

Seems like man has a continuous struggled with Gods perspective.

I suggest a little more study on the speed of light, etc...

your missing one critical point, which is the flood

No, the gap between the first and the second creation is not told in the bible.

My UGST thesis addresses this issue. As apostolics, we should be asking, how did the apostles understand Genesis? It is unfortunate that this discussion does not utilize an apostolic hermeneutic. -Mitchell McQuinn

Yeah, sounds like he thinks young earthers rely solely on Jesus Magic to explain their position and assumes every atheist theory, except evolution, to be proven fact.

The earth is 6000 years . God created the earth and all in it in 6 days.

His first example of the sun is based on science theory which contradicts biblical truth...

Didn’t God cause Aaron’s rod to bud overnight? Nothing is impossible with God!

the earth is 5 days older than Adam....

Powerful explanation! Thank you Bishop Bernard!

Genesis is the story of the beginning of man.

Teach some more error🤷🏻‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🙄😢

I so strongly agree. However, there are many who will refer to us as ungodly heathens. Many think that one must discard the entire Bible or ignore obvious knowledge. I have much trouble with PHDs who twist the observable truth to fit their position.

If you believe the Earth is a spinning ball billions of years old and in evolution you are commiting the sin of believing a lie. Not wanting to be an outcast is no excuse for not seeking the truth. We all sin and will be held accountable for them. BTW believing a lie is the first sin

God isn’t “traveling”. He is Omnipresent.

Bro. Bernard, I am a fellow Apostolic (former UPC), but I respectfully disagree with you and subscribe to the Creation account, and geologies (yes they may be imperfect, but not billions and millions of years imperfect) as written in the Word of God, 6 literal creation days, flood sediment and fossils, I do not subscribe to modern science as it is interpreted from a world view of evolution and atheism and not the Word of God. I fully subscribe to the YEC argument, the flood account (with a mixture of catastrophic plate tectonics and the hydroplate theory), and absolutely reject evolution (unless we are speaking of micro evolution or speciation in which we observe in science). While I appreciate the viewpoint, it to me seems to be yet another UPC compromise to better fit in with the modern world. I wish we could just stick with the message as written. The Earth is less than 10k years old, there was a flood around 4500 or so years ago, and Jesus is coming back for his bride. The gospel is all we need, not lowering our standards and message to win this world.

Consider the flood 10:51

Young Earth creationists exclude the first earth age. It requires poor mental gymnastics to deny the literal interpretation of the verses which discuss this age. They are well-equipped to rise to the task.

There is a distinction between creating and making. Create means to form from nothing. Make means to transform for service. The Bible doesn't does not say the heaven and earth was created in six days but made in six days. The age of geologic formations depends on what processes you believe formed it.

Hmm ...the 24 hour cycle of a day only exists on earth. In heaven, a day could be a million years long. But we have a hint. God says our 70 year life is like a 2 second whisp of smoke. If you do the math of each second in heaven is 35 years here, then 6 days and nights God's time is 18,144,00 years earth time. 18 million years is a long time for us, but 6 days for God. If you also count the day God rested, you get 21 million years earth time. This is a crude guess on my part, but God did put the equation in the scriptures.

Dr Brother Bernard. JESUS

These interpretations lead to discrepancies in how you interpret the Bible. I don’t see how the scientific revolution answers the fundamental fact that Adam sinned, and that affected all of us. God created the universe and created life. There was a flood, and that illuminates the need for millions of years to lay down settlements. This guy needs to get serious about the Bible and stop trying to interpret the Bible using changeable scientific conjecture.

The snake said so.

Science will always prove the bible. So if science contradicts the bible then there must be something wrong with the theory of science.