This is brilliant interpretation. I left college with a geology degree and asked Jesus why his words in the bible don't line up with evolutionary teaching and he told me to search the internet to find scientists that believed in him. I found it and I have more information to help spread the gospel of grace. Thanks and Amen!
Why do some people think you must be a moron to believe in Christ and his message., In the next vid he will be saying earth and the universe were created 6000 yrs ago Actually 6000 years ago the ice situation was extremely similar to today "Creation Science" is not science Belief in God does not depend on this nonsense Belief in a silly religion depends upon this nonsense Worshipping religion is not equal to worshiping God
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It's God's word and it is without error. God don't mess up. Everything is designed to operate as it is told to. Down to every breathe we take. He is perfect, we are not. Accept His Son that He sent and He will see you as perfect. Jesus lived perfect so we can be perfect in God's eyes.
@@NickHurr-ss3ponope. Not even close. The "contradictions" are the best parts of it. They exist to show you where your knowledge and wisdom is lacking. When you dig deeply into those there is always a treasure to be found that opens up a whole new understanding. People are just lazy and want everything handed to them. But if you're prepared to do the work and go beyond a superficial reading you'd be amazed what you can find
Man has always made it hard for us to understand what has existed. The biblical view is much to simple for those who want to confound us with theories.
In other words - Scientific research is hard - so I will stick with: "It was God". Yep, science IS hard, some of it is very, very complicated and is constantly being tested through replication in order to reach the facts. There is nothing wrong with saying "I don't know'. That, at least is intellectually honest. No gods (of any type) are required.
@@michaelfourie345How about you be intellectually honest as well. Out of “nothing” came everything and this happened without a miracle worker or out of “nothing” came everything and this happened with a miracle worker? We know that out of nothing comes nothing. Nothing creates nothing. So which makes more logical sense to you? God’s foot is in the door on this alone. It is the first step toward changing your worldview if you are only willing to go down that path.
@@davidhawkes1981Intellectually honest? So God came out of nothing? Out of nowhere and nothing He came? 🤔🤦🏻♂️ He the supernatural!! Out of nothing!! Same lame argument! I do not know is the simple answer but no that’s not good enough!!! Right!!
@@franklinamaya8116My friend, there has to be something or someone or some being that is outside of the material universe to create said material universe. We know that it had a beginning out of “nothing”. It stands to reason that this being would have to be outside of said creation to be able to do the creating. It is true that we are bound by the dimensions of space and time and thus to us our experience is linear and time itself is our reality. But to this being outside of space and time and who inhabits eternity…this is not a problem at all. Such a hypothesis is the one that makes the most sense. He is eternal and creates from “nothing” with all that entails.
@michaelfourie345 they literally went over everything secular scientists have to offer and showed how a biblical flood answers the huge unanswered questions. The fact is, it's much easier for you to troll target a commentator than to address the archeology and science
I'd like to know if The Flood caused the Ice Age or did the melting of the North American ice wall and suddenly collapsing (was a couple of miles high retaining trillions of litres of water) cause The Flood. I suspect it's rather more complex than this
@@nickbarton3191 Just as we have ground water now, they had ground waters before the flood, only lots more. The fountains of the deep gave up their ground water stores, it wasn't just 40 days of heavy rains that caused the earth to flood. Then the shallow ocean bottoms sunk, creating great chasms to hold the waters that then drained into them as the land and mountains rose up.
No one talks about the perpetuation of force. It would make more sense that the earths axis changed. The Bible also states the foundations of the deep broke up. Erratic climate chage is simple the fallen state of creation from sin. They now say a massive ocean exists under the crust.
This is finally a breath of fresh air in Historical elucidation, the Bible was a testament and History book as well as a clear sign to Humankind that our Benevolent Creator has always been, and always will be, may the children of truth and love inherit the planet! AMEN
Interviewers should learn to come away from "so, you're saying," and towards "so what I'm hearing," is... Besides that, these are sound explanations, mostly. What I've heard postulated from Hovind is that the seasons came about as the super-tectonic activity known as the break-up of the fountains of the deep, actually shifted Earth's axis 23.5°. The Bible states that before the flood, a mist went up from the ground and watered the earth, so, no water cycle. Very interesting vid.
It seems the oceans were shallower before the flood, then great basins opened up to take water off the land and keep the water as the mountains and land rose up. Those shallow oceans must have made for a whole different environment than we see today. We have more water in our oceans because the fountains of the deep gave up their waters, not just the 40 days of rains. That's why animals and humans were so different than today also. It was a completely different world before the flood. By the way, "Maine" says "Hello".
quite possible there were no oceans pre-flood but only lakes and rivers and seas. in Psalms it says God raised the mountains and lowered the valleys and the water ran off. Mt Everest was probably not there pre-flood.
Dr. Timothy Clarey gives a picture of the pre-flood world by sediment thickness. Lowland seas and such would have been covered first (grand Canyon area). But it is hard to say what it was like. More unspoiled for sure. Also when the plates ceased to subduct, the continents would have initially rebounded higher than they are today slowly settling to equilibrium creating submarine canyons in the runoff phase. In other words, the continents probably bobbed a bit during and after the run-off phase.
@@dougmoore4653 This also solves the "there is not enough water" objection. Because true, all water on earth could not cover everything (Mt. Everest) + "15 cubits" (Gen. 7:20). This objection assumes that the landscape was in effect the same as today.
Isn't it wonderful to see the Lord use a true Christian teacher like Tas on this issue. What a difference! Once again, the Bible message makes real sense, wheras the bizarre propaganda of evolution just doesn't add up.
Science. When you get to put your name on "papers" you conjure papers to put your name on just so you can. Science has been wrong a lot of times, a whole lot even. Wrong things they signed off on as pure, honest facts, but were totally wrong because they were just guessing the best they could.
Yes, it is wonderful indeed. I much prefer my geological information to come from a mechanical engineer with an first class honours in Earth Science, than say someone like Dr Brent Dalrymple, whose day to day work includes the dating or rocks and minerals and working on understanding geological events and the application of radiometric dating. Oh but what is my evidence against the wonderful Dr Walker I hear you cry? Let's see: He misinterprets the fossil record, his theory is inconsistent with stratigraphy, his global flood model is highly unfeasable and his entire foundation is constructed through a strictly biblical lens. He disregards established geological principles and their is virutally no empirical evidence to support his assertions.
First, you attacked the messenger, rather than the message. Then, when you indicated you would give evidence, you simply engaged in elephant hurling (throwing a volley of broad claims/accusations; it's very difficult to defend against elephant hurling, because it often lacks specific claims). You didn't name a single, specific piece of evidence. Dr Walker raises plenty of points that are well worth pondering.
@@creationministriesintl Credentials matter. Bob comes up to me at a friend's dinner party, and informs me that tomorrow there will be a thunderstorm. "Oh, are you a meteorologist Bob?", I reply. "No, but my wife's knee always twinges in a certain way when a storm is coming,", says Bob. Do I need to explain that the biology behind any sort of pain in the knee to object to using Bob's wife as an accurate indication of weather forecasting? No. There is a pool of sufficient evidence that I can compare Bob's wife's claim against which allows me to dismiss her prediction without having to provide an explanation. As I already commented, the Ice Age Dr Walker refers to began 2.58 million years ago, which immediately renders any attempt to explain it on the basis of a biblical narrative null and void. I'm not attacking Dr Walker, I'm raising an objection toward the nature of his credentials. But I am happy to be more specific with the details of my objection, so I will respond as such shortly. Also, just a reminder of point D6 in your own 'what we believe' - no interpretation of facts in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the scriptural record. By insisting that interpretations must align with a specific scriptural record, this approach imposes an arbitrary and inherently biased constraint on scientific inquiry. Science thrives on skepticism, curiosity, and the willingness to challenge prevailing beliefs based on empirical evidence, not on adherence to preconceived notions dictated by any particular religious or ideological framework. Insisting on the primacy of a scriptural record stifles scientific progress and undermines the pursuit of knowledge based on objective observation and critical inquiry.
@@creationministriesintl Ok, so let's deal specifically with what Dr Walker claims from 23:03 to 24:20. The evidence cited, such as volcanic activity and warmer oceans, can be explained within the context of natural geological processes and long-term climate change rather than a singular global flood event. For instance, volcanic activity and warmer ocean temperatures have occurred throughout Earth's history due to tectonic activity, volcanic eruptions, and fluctuations in atmospheric and oceanic conditions, which are well-documented and understood by geologists. Additionally, the absence of geological evidence for a global flood, such as a lack of widespread sedimentary deposits consistent with a simultaneous inundation of the entire planet, contradicts the notion of a global deluge. Instead, the geological record shows a complex layering of sediments, fossils, and rock formations that reflect gradual processes occurring over vast stretches of time, rather than a sudden, catastrophic event. But let's get even more specific, and deal with this particular claim: ". It's recognized the change of isotope ratios, that they were warmer in the past towards the bottom of the ice cores. And so warmer oceans, that means that there's a lot more evaporation. So the evaporation produces snow and rainfall, precipitation on the continents. So that produces the water. So the snow on the continents, it builds up. And so immediately after the Flood, these conditions allowed for the snow and ice to start building up on the continents." This interpretation does not require a global flood. Earth's climate has always been up and down, with natural factors like changes in solar radiation and atmospheric composition causing shifts in temperature over millions of years. These long-term climate trends can explain periods of warmer oceans and more snow on land without needing a one-time massive flood. Plus, geological evidence shows that floods have happened regionally over time, but not all at once across the entire planet. And when we talk about snow and ice building up on continents, that's a slow process taking thousands to millions of years, not something that happens suddenly post-flood. So, while warmer oceans can lead to more evaporation and snowfall, it's all part of Earth's natural climate story, not just a single flood event. I don't recall Dr Walker pinning a date as to the beginning of the Quaternary Ice Age in this video, I apologise if I missed it, but I'd be interested to hear his objections on why the dating of around 2.5 million years is inaccurate. This date has been established by geologists using a variety of methods, in particular Ice Core data and Geological mapping. Lastly, I'll touch briefly on one of the last points Dr Walker makes in terms of the 'snowball earth' theory. It's not just one event around 600 million years ago; scientists think it happened multiple times over billions of years! Also, the idea isn't that the entire planet was covered in ice all the time, but that glaciers might have reached the equator during these extreme cold snaps. And while increased reflectivity from ice could cool things down, it's not as simple as a 'positive feedback loop' - Earth's climate system is way more complex than that! Plus, suggesting evolution just stops during these events? Not quite - life finds a way, even in icy conditions! Happy now? Or is this still 'elephant hurling'?
Does the Bible speak of an "ice age" ? No, but it does present facts of how the earth was dramatically changed from a lush planet from "pole to pole", with palm trees growing even in Antarctica and a forest growing in Greenland, by the Global Deluge in 2370 B.C.E. that brought about cataclysmic alterations on the earth. So, an initial question could be, of where did all the water come from that covered the earth to some 22 feet above the tallest mountains and remains to this day as our oceans ?(Gen 7:20) From "the heavenly ocean" (Hebrew 'eth mabbul, Gen 6:17; Ps 29:10) that was like a thermal blanket that surrounded the earth, and that is spoken of at Genesis 1:2 as the "waters" that covered the earth, but was lifted up by God to be suspended above the earth in vaporous form, to act like a warm, thick blanket on a cold night, keeping the earth at a comfortable temperature (whereby Adam and Eve were naked, and were neither cold nor hot, see Gen 2:25), even at the "poles", as Genesis 1:6-8 describes, and in which Genesis 1:6, 7 says: "Then God said: “Let there be an expanse ("expanse", Hebrew raqia, or our atmosphere that we breathe) between the waters, and let there be a division between the waters (above) and the waters (on the earth, called Seas, Gen 1:10).” Then God went on to make the expanse and divided the waters beneath the expanse (the Seas) from the waters above the expanse ("waters above the expanse", "the heavenly ocean"). And it was so." Fossilized pollen and spores have been recovered from seabed sediment in Antarctica that reveals that it once supported palms and near-tropical forests, showing that temperatures at the poles were not vastly different from those at the equator. And in 2019, through a microscope, University of Vermont scientist Andrew Christ looked at twigs and leaves from seabed sediment from almost a mile deep drilling in Greenland [that had been drilled by the US Army and stored in a freezer since 1966], showing that it was once covered with forests. Dick Mol, an amateur paleontologist, found a mammoth vertebrae in about 2009 on the bottom of the North Sea when a trawler was dredging the sea floor to make sure of the required depth of 80 feet for the shipping lanes, that shows that at one time, this was once land, where mammoths roamed, just like cows roaming in a pasture. For example, a frozen mammoth was uncovered in Siberia in 1901, whereby vegetation was still in its mouth and stomach (green buttercups), and its flesh was still edible when thawed out, called the Berezovka mammoth (excavated from the Berezovka river) that was excavated and shipped back to St. Petersburg, Russia, during an expedition led by Otto Herz and E. Pfizenmayer, showing it was "quick frozen" in a matter of minutes, that the temperature dropped from tropical to some 150 degrees F. below zero "in a heartbeat" of blizzard proportions. Ivan T. Sanderson (1911-73 C.E.) a biologist and writer born in Edinburgh, Scotland, having a Masters of Arts degree in botany and ethnology, in the The Saturday Evening Post of January 16, 1960, observed concerning the Berezovka mammoth: "The list of animals that have been thawed out of this mess (in Siberia) would cover several pages.........And there is where we get back to quick-freezing mammoths, for frozen-food experts have pointed out that to do this (or freeze an animal while alive, so that it is well preserved), starting with a healthy specimen, you would have to drop the temperature of the air surrounding it down to a point of well below minus - 150 degrees Fahrenheit (-101.1 degrees Celsius)", almost instantly, which is what occurred when God caused "the heavenly ocean" to fall to the earth, the massive body of water surrounding the earth, and causing the warmth of the earth to rise very rapidly, creating a vacuum for severe cold winds. And paleontologist Arturo Vildozola found some 500 fossilized oysters, with some with a circumference of 11 feet and weighing up to 650 pounds in Acostambo, Peru in 2001 at an elevation of 12,300 feet above sea level in the Andes Mountains (newspaper El Comercio), showing that it was once under water, establishing that the earth was once "turned upside down", being completely covered with water for a period of some five months during the Noachian Flood.(Gen 6:17; 7:24) Temperatures plunged so rapidly at or near the poles (or within the Arctic Circle) animals became frozen almost instantly, that what was once a temperate zone where animals of all types thrived now suddenly became frozen.(Gen 7:6) What else resulted from the Global Deluge ? The eradication of wicked people, including the Nephilim, giant sons of materialized angels that wreaked havoc on mankind.(Gen 6:1-5; 7:21-23; Jude 6, 7) It also resulted in the earth's mantle or surface being buckled to allow for land to be above "the heavenly ocean" of water that now covers the earth, as Psalms 104:6-8 states: "You (God, whose name is Jehovah, see Isa 12:2, KJV) covered it (the earth) with deep waters as with a garment (Gen 7:17-19). The waters stood above the mountains (Gen 7:19). At your rebuke they fled (Gen 8:1, 2); At the sound of your thunder (or by means of his holy spirit, buckling the earth's mantle) they ran away in panic-Mountains ascended and valleys descended (with the buckling of the earth's surface)-to the place you established for them."
I don't understand the flash freeze timeline for the Berezovka river. The animals couldn't have frozen _before_ the flood or the flood would have melted the ice and destroyed the bodies, or possibly fossilized them. But if they froze _after_ the flood, it would have had to be a number of years later after the ark animals had had an opportunity to multiply, but by then it's not an effect of the flood.
@@KenJackson_US There was NO ice (nor rain, see Gen 2:6, whereby "a mist would go up from the earth, and it watered the entire surface of the ground") before the Global Deluge, for the ENTIRE earth, from pole to pole, was covered in tropical forests, with the temperature being comfortably warm due to the earth being surrounded by an invisible watery canopy called in Hebrew "ham mabbul" (H3999), literally meaning "the heavenly ocean".(Gen 1:2, 6-8; 6:17) And the Beresovka river did not exist before the Global Deluge (see Gen 2:10-14), for the Global Deluge in 2370 B.C.E. caused major changes of earth's topography. In describing this change, Psalms 104 says: "Let me praise Jehovah. O Jehovah my God, you are very great.........He has established the earth on its foundations; It will not be moved from its place forever and ever." "You covered it with deep waters as with a garment (during the Global Deluge). The waters stood (some 22 feet, or 15 cubits, Gen 7:19, 20) above the mountains. At your rebuke they fled (because Jehovah buckled earth's mantle, forming tectonic plates, allowing land to be above the waters, that are now the oceans);" "At the sound of your thunder they ran away in panic-mountains ascended and valleys descended-to the place you established for them. You set a boundary that they should not pass, that they should never again cover the earth."Ps 104:1, 5-9) In an article entitled “Riddle of the Frozen Giants,” by Ivan T. Sanderson in the The Saturday Evening Post of January 16, 1960, he observed: "The list of animals that have been thawed out of this mess would cover several pages. . . . They are all in the muck." "These facts indicated water as the agency which engulfed the creatures. . . . many of these animals were perfectly fresh, whole and undamaged, and still either standing or at least kneeling upright. . . .Here is a really shocking-to our previous way of thinking-picture." "Vast herds of enormous, well-fed beasts not specifically designed for extreme cold, placidly feeding in sunny pastures, delicately plucking flowering buttercups at a temperature in which we would probably not even have needed a coat." "Suddenly they were all killed without any visible sign of violence and before they could so much as swallow a last mouthful of food, and then were quick-frozen so rapidly that every cell of their bodies is perfectly preserved, despite their great bulk and their high temperature. What, we may well ask, could possibly do this?” Frank C. Hibben (1910-2002), an archaeologist at the University of New Mexico, recounted an expedition he made to Alaska in 1941 to look for human remains in his book The Lost Americans (1946). Instead of finding any human remains, "he found miles and miles of icy muck just packed with mammoths, mastodons, and several kinds of bison, horses, wolves, bears and lions (all being together, in which bears and lions were at "peace" with the bison and horses) ." "Just north of Fairbanks, Alaska, the members of the expedition watched in horror as bulldozers pushed the half-melted muck into sluice boxes for the extraction of gold. Animal tusks and bones rolled up in front of the blades like shavings before a giant plane. The carcasses were found in all attitudes of death, most of them pulled apart by some unexplainable prehistoric catastrophic disturbance." Hence, only a sudden and dramatic change of temperature (or weather, as some would think) could account for these animals being frozen while standing and eating vegetation. The global flood of Noah's day is the account.
@@timhaley3459 Interesting. But that doesn't answer the question. If they were frozen as the flood started, they wouldn't have been frozen for long because the flood waters would have destroyed them. Ice floats. Do you think that ice stayed submerged for months? But if they were frozen after the flood, it would have taken years to multiply enough animals to fit the descrption. This is still a big puzzle.
@@KenJackson_US When Jehovah God caused "the heavenly ocean" (Hebrew ham mabbul, Gen 6:17; Ps 29:10), the vaporous body of water surrounding the earth that acted like a thermal blanket, to "drop from the sky" (or "the waters above the expanse" or atmosphere, Gen 1:7), this also caused a very rapid drop in temperature on the earth, especially at the poles (or from the Arctic and Antarctic Circle to the Arctic and Antarctic Poles), for heat rises. So, with the tropical warmth suddenly rising in a way never seen before or after the Global Deluge, like taking off a thick warm coat off on very cold, wintry day (as at 40 to 50 below zero temperatures), the animals were then subjected to massively freezing temperatures and "quick frozen", and then was quickly covered in silt or mud from the flood waters, frozen and buried, and remained that way due to being above the Arctic or Antarctic Circle, that was permanently frozen year round (or "permafrost") until recent years, when "climate change" has altered this. Perhaps you are aware that hot water freezes much sooner than cold water under a wide range of circumstances and called the Mpemba effect. The University of California, Riverside, said that "this has been seen to occur in a number of experiments.....there is no well-agreed explanation for how this phenomenon occurs." Jesus Christ used the backdrop of the Global Deluge to describe people's attitudes today that are the same as just before Flood of Noah's day, that "just as the days of Noah were (from 2490-2370 B.C.E., Gen 6:3) so the presence of the Son of man will be (that began in 1914, when Jesus was crowned king of God's heavenly Kingdom, Dan 7:14, 14; Rev 6:1, 2, and then threw his archenemy Satan, out of heaven, Rev 12:7-9, so that he angrily responded by starting World War I and from then on, keeping "the fire" of nationalism "hot", Rev 12:12). For as they were in those days before the Flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage (apathetic, unconcerned, casually going along in life), until the day that Noah entered into the ark," "and they took NO NOTE (that moral conditions and other situations were changing, see Gen 6:5-7, that were "signs" or evidence that things were reaching "a climatic event", called Armageddon, Rev 16:16) until the Flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be."(Matt 24:37-39)
@@KenJackson_US Really bad winters now would be catastrophically bad winters then, and a lot of snow can take a very long time to melt off, especially if you get a few in a row. [From Western NY, near Buffalo. We KNOW about these things, and lake effect can be disastrous. And we have pictures from the 1920s with snow a story or two high downtown, and it is demonstrable that we get less deep snow than even 70 years ago.]
DR. TAS WALKER : Dr. Walker has been my favorite scientist and scholar for over 20 years, even more than Ken Ham. While I appreciate them all, Dr. Walker is the only one who engaged me in friendly conversation (albeit by email) and maintained contact. His Geologic Model has been especially helpful in conceptualizing the flood.
I am so glad I liked your video first because I like your channel. Got a bad spot for Internet and lost the connection. I was able to look at my liked videos. Went to you on the top.
@@ferengiprofiteer9145 Wheres the trick? The lower layers of low co2 ice, that's where it happened. Any more questions that can be answered easily? Or are you going with your god
Only if you believe CO2 is the driver of our climate. Given CO2 makes up only 0.04% of our atmosphere I can see a major flaw with that theory 😂 If it drops to 0.02% life become impossible, yet we're determined to lower it from 0.04. Why? Even is we accept that preposterous idea, you need to be able to explain what caused the CO2 fluctuations.
The secular answers always involve 100s of thousands and millions of years, because it's hard to think of how has the earth changed so much in a few thousands.
Yes, Nick, and the reason for that is the devil wants to dismiss the sobering URGENT warning of Noah's catastrophic Flood, as it was a sobering judgement of man's sin, with the evidence of that sober judgement all around us in the fossil-bearing rocks, and less than 6,000 years ago!
It is difficult to comprehend the massive forces involved in the Great Flood. Forty days and forty nights of continuous heavy rain accross the WHOLE earth involved a LOT of water, together with the mysterious opening up of the 'fountains of the deep' mentioned in Genesis. The forces involved were just off the scale, and there has been NOTHING of this scale since. It was a one off, suddenly changing world climate and world geology. It all makes sense, whereas the lie of Evolution utterly fails to explain it!
There will be many who choose not to believe God's word on Creation and the Flood, but there will also be many Christians who will be greatly encouraged by this Biblical teaching, which is much needed. Christians have NOTHING to fear from the Evolution propaganda. The key is for us all to humble ourselves before God's Word and say to Him "Lord, this is YOUR Bible, I pray YOU will teach me". God loves to teach the humble His ways!
@@ImprobableWizardI'm not sure where you got that timeline. 2 Pet. 3:4,9. God is patient, He wants you to make the right choice, but He won't force you to love Him.
11:20 they did the same with 'dark matter' as their model doesn't work towards the edges of the galaxy ie less gravitational force (due to less mass) should be acting on the bodies furthest away from the centre and thus should be traveling slower but they aren't 😅
There was only one ice age. What conditions do I need to bring about an ice age? Now I need 1. A lot and constant snowfall Where does the snow come from? To get a lot of snow I need high rainfall, A lot of water vapor in the air. But I also need cold regions and or high mountains so that the snow can lie, accumulate and not melt. And it can become ice. This applies, for example, to many mountains larger than 3000 4000 meters. And on the areas 60 to 90 degrees north (Arctic) and 60 to 90 degrees south (Antarctica). Ok now we have high rainfall in the form of snow and cold regions and high mountains where the snow can accumulate and then ice layers form. But what do I have to do to get a high water vapor content into the atmosphere over a whole series of years? Mhhm. I need a lot of warm water that wants/needs to rise. Best a warm sea. How to make a warm sea? I don't know what kind of ideas you have. The promising Method is you lay a new floor. A new ocean floor. It is made of lava. When this is finished, it means basalt. In the 1950s, it became known that the ocean floor is much younger than the continents. Does a new ocean floor produce enough heat to create a warm sea? Hell yes. Of course. How long does it take to renew such an ocean floor? Probably a little bit. Earth surface spherical earth 510 million km2 70% of which is ocean floor = 357 million km2. That probably took a few nice years. So the sea is warm for a long time, say a few years or decades. How much snow or ice can we make in what time? Most scientists say the ice core of the GRIP Greeland Icecore Project with a depth of 3028 m is said to represent 250,000 years. So an average of 1.2 cm of ice growth per year. Can that be true? In 1942, 6 fighter pilots and 2 bombers from the USA/Canada had to make an emergency landing in Greenland. Everyone got away with their lives but the planes had to stop there. After some unsuccessful attempts to recover the aircraft in 1989 - 47 years after the emergency landing - 2 aircraft were salvaged. They were at a depth of 78 meters. 54 m massive ice and 24 meters very hard firn. So there was a snow/ice increase of 78 m in 47 years or 1.66 meters per year From the deep drilling into the ice in the Arctic and Antarctic we know the following data: ARKTIS NGRIP 3,085 m deep, estimated age 123,000 years, increase 2.5 cm/a ANTARKTIS VOSTOK 3,623 m deep, estimated age 420,000 years, increase 0.86 cm/a ANTARKTIS EPICA 3270.2 m deep, estimated age 900,000 years, increase 0.36 cm/a With an increase of 1.66 m per year, as in the aircraft example, the 3028 m thick ice would have been completed in just over 1800 years. With an even warmer sea than the Gulf Stream, that shouldn't take more than a few 100 years. Here again the overview. We need tons of snow that we get delivered by tons of water vapor from a warm sea. And we need cold areas/regions/high mountains where the snow remains. In a few 100 years, the great ice age would have baked. But we still have a problem. The snow must not melt the ice. We need cool summers. Where do we get cool summers with largely overcast skies? For a long time? We need volcanic eruptions over a few decades. Their ash clouds block the sun. Are permanent volcanic eruptions realistic if the ocean floor is renewed on a large scale at the same time? You can leave one on it. That's more than realistic. That's the whole secret of how the Ice Age came to be. There was only this time. As a result of a global catastrophe. Therefore, there can be no regular ice times. Because it has to come to a big disaster every time.
So many inquiries when I read the book of Genesis but it never amazed me how deep we can really dig to discover things. Just amazing! I love that message towards the end!
Man needs to accept that this earth life is temporary, like when you go camping, needing only the basics. Our inheritance is not in this fallen world, but in the one prepared for us by the Great Judge - Jesus Christ our Redeemer. The UN is man wanting to be god, the 70 nations of Babel, wanting life on their terms, denying the existence of YHWH the Creator of Heaven & Earth and deceiving as many as they can by covering up the truth. The summit of Mt Hermon and Bethabara are classic examples. Mt Hermon the place of the watchers coming down where Jesus declared "I am the Messiah come and get me!" and Betharaba where John the Baptist the last Temple High Priest preserved the original Septuagint in the Dead Sea Scrolls. No wonder Jesus had such a problem with the Pharasees - they were counterfeit priests, spread their yeast. Pray for wisdom and understanding so you can spot the deceptions of this world.
Isaac Asimov has the best explanation for climate change. As the earth warms, more water will be evaporated until the water in the atmosphere will cool the earth and the ice caps will build up and then the cycle will start all over.
It was mentioned that the flood was 4500 years ago. Many place the flood around 2500BC this uses the deflated numbers in the Masoretic text in Genesis 11. There is significant evidence that the Samaritan Pentatuch and the LXX texts are actually the correct numbers for this passage, this would place the flood at 3198 BC. So 5200 years ago. Many of these discussions should start including this.
The discussion of ice age mechanisms lasted over 50 minutes as it was, without trying to explain to people a difference of 700 years in certain manuscripts. 🙂 For your interest (not planning to get into discussions of it here, on this ice age video), we have a fair amount of material on the Masoretic/LXX discussion on our site, e.g.: → Textual traditions and biblical chronology - dl0.creation.com/articles/p133/c13378/j29_2_99-105.pdf → creation.com/lxx-mt-response → creation.com/smith-response
I agree that the LXX preserves the original timeline. There can't be separate secular and holy timelines and the LXX lines up with the histories of Sumer, Akkad, Assyria and Egypt.
@@donkennedy9170 Stood the test of time? You mean no one has restored the Hebrew text. It's unlikely anyone ever will. Meanwhile, secular histories have confirmed the original time line preserved in the LXX and SP.
Recent scientific discoveries proved that there is more water underground than in the surface of the Earth. The Bible speaks of the flood not only composed of water coming from the sky as rain, but also from the "springs of the Great deep burst forth". Genesis 7:11.
Once you understand that every contemporary scientific 'theory' only stands until it's discredited you realise it's only a matter of time before our current understanding of physics, geology etc is shot down. The bible tells the true story of God's glory, from genesis to revelation.
This is an interesting video. Regardless of what I think about the Bible, it is interesting to listen to alternative theories. We shouldn't forget though that there also were "mini ice ages", (specifically from 14th century to about mid-19th century in the North Atlantic region) when temperatures in winter dropped very law and it became bitterly cold. The explanation I was traditionally given for this phenomena is low activity of the sun combined with other global climatic patterns.
We agree that the system is definitely suffering under the effects of sin/the curse. But with regard to overall stability, note the personal undertaking that God himself made at the end of the Flood in Genesis 8:22: "While the earth remains, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night, shall not cease." God has personally undertaken to see that the system is stable enough to continue to provide our regular seasons, "as long as earth remains".
Such a testimony of God's handiwork, holiness, and judgements to listen to a scientist who believes in God's word. But I recommend we don't say "Noah's Flood" as if he caused it. It was and is God's judgement on the Earth and He produced it. It occurred during Noah's lifetime/generation. Yet by God's grace and mercies, He didn't totally destroy Earth. It was changed as well as the atmosphere, different and so beautiful. Another interesting question is what about ". . . and He sent a wind over the earth and the waters receded." Gene 8:1
Like the Flood, the power involved was off the scale, and there must have been a whole series of dramatic changes following the catastrophic worldwide Flood, including sudden changes of climate as the earth's climate adjusted to a new beginning. Sudden changes obviously caught out the mammoths, hence the 'snap-frozen' state of many of the mammoth fossils. Remember, this underlines that the intact mammoths died AFTER the Flood, wheras the intact skeletal dinosaur fossils were suddenly formed DURING the Flood, after being suddenly entombed by the massive soil-laden tidal waves of the Flood. The cloud cover after the Flood was MUCH less, and consequently the climate was MUCH cooler. God knew It would have been pointless to preserve the dinosaurs in the Ark, as the much cooler earth would have made it impossible for those massive cold-blooded animals to survive. It all makes sense.
Decent question, one that wasn't provided in this video from what I heard. My guess would be a sudden drop in temperature, like the 70 degree drop in temperature I experienced within a half-hour one sunny day a blizzard moved in just outside of Cheyanne Wyoming one afternoon while I was on the side of the road hitchhiking. Only worse than that was. Much worse even.
@@willoughby1888 from what I understand, it would have to be very extreme (apparently even modern day industrial snap freezing can’t replicate it). I’m not saying it means the bible is wrong, it’s just I would like to hear a possible explanation.
@@OpenMindedMedia-connect It had to be something, I took my best guess as to how it might have happened. Maybe deep frozen liquids underground erupted and suddenly turned into gases. Those creatures didn't just solidly freeze in a snap all on their own.
Thanks for an interesting discussion. Have any mathematical models been developed that support the combination of warm oceans, volcanic particulates in the Upper atmosphere, etc., due to a global flood (consistent with the Book of Genesis) resulting in an ice age? Please include any modelling from the glaciers first melting to current day Earth. God bless you! Ps I believe the Bible and Science are completely harmonious.
Woolly Mammoth (Elephant kind) Arctic Wolf (dog kind) Sabertooth Tiger (cat kind) Arctic Fox (latin vulpis, but is it it's own kind?) Four kinds in Arctic areas. Proof of Ice Age immediately after the Global Flood, imo.
The earth does not have to be much colder to produce large ice caps. You only need to cool the summers so that more snow falls in the winter than can melt in the summer.
The excess ice is not caused by excess cold but rather excess heat (energy) created as a result of the excess evaporation. Go to the arctic today and it is very dry and dusty because of a lack of heat energy from the sun.
The last ice age came to an abrupt end due to multiple impacts along the north american ice sheet. The bible does not have any mention of this. But Gobleki tepe does
@@ferengiprofiteer9145 its true my friend. You can call BS if you want to. The impact craters are there to be seen. The physical damage left behing from the event can be seen across north america. It was a global cataclysmic event we would not be able to comprehend. And it will not be the last.
@@longdongsilver1255 Don't take such big gulps. The jury is still out on "Carolina bays". Same with interpretations of the Goblekis. Hancock taints every subject he touches. Randall needs to be a little more discriminating. IMHO
@@ferengiprofiteer9145 i looked into it myself too. Have you looked at the evidence of the YD boundary layer found in Arizona by the comet research group? Shows all markers pointing towards a cosmic event
_"The_ *last* _ice age"?_ There was only one. The flood's tectonic activity made the oceans hot and the volcanoes made the atmosphere dark and cold. Hot oceans and cold skies. That recipe wasn't repeated.
Your explanation of the extinction begs so many questions. For instance, there are so many examples of these extinctions occurring in a catastrophic flood environment and not some dustbowl. Vast jumbles of bones piled together and buried under many feet of muck. So full of holes to anyone that has looked into the various fossil bed occurrences around the world.
I am assuming that the oceans became warmer, not through the sun,, but by hydrothermal vents when the water was released from below the ocean? This in turn heated up the atmosphere in a new equilibrium to add more H2O as water, clouds and ice.
This is just my take: you won’t hear this from hardly anyone else. but it is consistent with the cmi response you already got. they said tectonic activity and volcanism. i think submarine and sub aerial volcanism were very significant contributors. sub marine volcanism heated the water. sub aerial volcanism blocked radiation from the sun. and i also think that the spreading sea floor due to run away continental sprint (not run away subduction) contributed greatly to the warming ocean. after that it is simple. increased ocean temperature means increase in evaporation which means increased cloud formation which means increased cooling. But below the clouds the air stays fairly warm due to *** green house effect ***. Yes, water vapor is a very strong green house gas. CO2 is a very weak green house gas. so it’s warm winters (relatively speaking) and cooler summers due to more shade. so the accumulation doesn’t melt back fast enough to keep up with annual precipitation. The main point that i differ from cmi on is subduction causing continental sprint. subduction is not a viable mechanism to move continents. I’m sure the continents sprinted, but not because of any kind of slab push or pull due to subduction.
@@mmaimmortals The problem being peer reviewed science is untrustworthy, and I need to further my own research, but one thing we can likely agree upon is the energy source behind marine temperatures has come from below the crust through volcanism, hydrothermal vents and subduction zones helped along by plate tectonics. They must exist, but I can't recall stumbling upon any scientific literature attributing ocean temperatures to core temperatures, only the sun
@@tracer7898 Thanks for the reply. I think your comment about hydro thermal vents is valid. It's just that the way I think about them is that they contribute significantly less heat transfer to the ocean at large because the fluids have already absorbed a significant amount of heat from direct contact with magmatic or mantle material producing a cooling effect on the rocky material at the contact zone. The latent heat of water vaporization is much, much higher than that for liquid temperature change in water. By definition, hydro thermal vents have already been in contact with hot rock of some sort, so they are an intermediate heat transfer device. The pressure release of such sub oceanic chambers also induces rapid cooling of the liquid. Many creationists subscribe to the idea of run away subduction being triggered by accelerated nuclear decay (AND). I don't think either are valid mechanisms at all.
@@tracer7898Unfortunately, peer review often is a process that asks people who disagree with the standard narrative to take a hike off the end of a long pier. Such pier review processes have delayed much scientific discovery.
I've come across an idea regarding possible human influence on the climate which I think is significant. It has been observed, the presence of stratospheric jet aviation introduces water vapor into the upper atmosphere which otherwise would not be there. The effect of this, which is proven, is to reduce the diurnal (night and day) temperature difference. This, if nothing else, might cause an increase in sea level because higher overnight temperature means less ice formation. Grounding all jet aviation would be one way to test the hypothesis, but this would not be practical. Putting all civilian jet transport aviation, and as much military aviation as possible, under a lower ceiling is another way to test the idea. Maybe something like a 29,000 foot (9000 meter) ceiling for a period of time would be doable. Civilian carriers could be provided with subsidized fuel for the duration to make up for the loss in fuel efficiency. If the hypothesis proved valid, In the long term, aviation would have to redesigned in that case. The alternative would be subjecting people on the ground to all sorts of privations in a probably ineffective effort to counteract the effects of introducing large amounts of water vapor into the upper atmosphere.
Great video! A little slow in parts - for someone who knows of the M. Cycles & Precession etc. - but top notch in showing how the historical paradigm of God"s witness in Genesis 6-9 can comfortably explain the singular large ice-age & the fairly rapid extinction of large faunal phyla after it.
Current sea level is up 390'' during the current 12000 year Holocene warming period. The Great Lakes and the North Sea are caused by retreating great ice sheets less than 8000 years ago. Temperatures were 4-5° degrees warmer 6000-8000 years ago causing great ice melting.
Long Island in Nerw York State, was formed by the rocks being dropped in place by the glaciers. That is primarily known as the North Shore. The South Shore was built up over time as the sand was pushed by the currents against the rock, it getting longer and longer away from the rock. Over time again, soil was made that spread out over the sand. Eventually leaving only a thin patch of sand in the South and the Barrier Islands Like Fire Island.
I want to know more about after the flood and after the Tower of Babel a man is born and the earth is divided. What effect did that have upon man and the animals. I feel like we teach during the flood the earth divided but the Bible says it’s after God divided man with language because man was not covering the earth but staying together and building a tower
An ice age after the flood and during the time of the Tower of Babel would have made expansion and exploration possible because of ice land bridges, like in the Bering Sea.
Days of Peleg.......1 Chronicles 1:19 KJV And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of the one was Peleg; because in his days the earth was divided: and his brother's name was Joktan. Peleg was the sign that the continents were to split up into what we see today on a map.
@@AnthonyJones-vk6xq could it be that melting ice raised the ocean level thereby dividing the earth into continents with water without breaking or splitting up the earth There is evidence of a sea level roughly 200 feet less at some time.
@@jerryharder1381 Personally i do not know what exactly happened at this period, i was not there ! however only one text describes the events in the book of Genesis. However modern atheists insist its just a fairy tale and its all down to global warming ! Certainly the sea level we have today is higher than previous times when you consider structures like 'The ancient Roman town of Baiae' found beneath the sea level today.
That's an easy question. There was never a global flood and there was never a tower of babel. I suggest you look up the heat problem where a global flood would literally liquefy the entire earth. You can look to almost every branch of science and find contradictions to biblical flood model. You can also look at the evolution of languages and clearly see that there was no event that caused people to suddenly speak different languages. These stories were made by people as an attempt to explain the world.
Young earth proof 1. Not enough mud on the sea floor. Each year 20 billion tons of dirt and rock from the continents and deposit it in the ocean. The average depth of all the sediment in the whole ocean is less than 400 meters. The main way known to remove the sediment from the ocean floor is by plate tectonic subduction. According to secular scientific literature, that process presently removes only 1 billion tons per year. As far as anyone knows, the other 19 billion tons per year simply accumulate. At that rate, erosion would deposit the present mass of sediment in less than 12 million years. 2. Not enough sodium in the sea. Every year, rivers and other sources dump over 450 million tons of sodium into the ocean. Only 27% of this sodium manages to get back out of the sea each year. As far as anyone knows, the remainder simply accumulates in the ocean. If the sea had no sodium to start with, it would have accumulated its present amount in less than 42 million years at today's input and output rates. This is much less than the evolutionary age of the ocean, three billion years. The usual reply to this discrepancy is that past sodium inputs must have been less and outputs greater. However, calculations that are as generous as possible to evolutionary scenarios still give a maximum age of only 62 million years. 3. The earth's magnetic field is decaying too fast. The total energy stored in the earth's magnetic field ("dipole" and "non-dipole") is decreasing with a half-life of 1,465 (± 165) years. The field's total energy (not surface intensity) has always decayed at least as fast as now. At that rate the field could not be more than 20,000 years old. 4. Many strata are too tightly bent. In many mountainous areas, strata thousands of feet thick are bent and folded into hairpin shapes. The conventional geologic time scale says these formations were deeply buried and solidified for hundreds of millions of years before they were bent. Yet the folding occurred without cracking, with radii so small that the entire formation had to be still wet and unsolidified when the bending occurred. This implies that the folding occur in hours days weeks month after deposition. 5. Biological material decays too fast. Natural radioactivity, mutations, and decay degrade DNA and other biological material rapidly. Measurements of the mutation rate of mitochondrial DNA recently forced researchers to revise the age of "mitochondrial Eve" from a theorized 200,000 years down to possibly as low as 6,000 years. DNA experts insist that DNA cannot exist in natural environments longer than 10,000 years 6. Fossil radioactivity shortens geologic "ages" to a few years. Radiohalos are rings of color formed around microscopic bits of radioactive minerals in rock crystals. They are fossil evidence of radioactive decay. "Squashed" Polonium-210 radiohalos indicate that Jurassic, Triassic, and Eocene formations in the Colorado plateau were deposited within months of one another, not hundreds of millions of years apart as required by the conventional time scale. 7. Too much helium in minerals. Uranium and thorium generate helium atoms as they decay to lead. A study published in the Journal of Geophysical Research showed that such helium produced in zircon crystals in deep, hot Precambrian granitic rock has not had time to escape. Though the rocks contain 1.5 billion years worth of nuclear decay products, newly-measured rates of helium loss from zircon show that the helium has been leaking for only 6,000 (± 2000) years. This is not only evidence for the youth of the earth, but also for episodes of greatly accelerated decay rates of long half-life nuclei within thousands of years ago, compressing radioisotope timescales enormously. 8. Too much carbon 14 in deep geologic strata. With a short 5,700-year half-life, no carbon 14 atoms should exist in any carbon older than 250,000 years. Yet it has proven impossible to find any natural source of carbon below Pleistocene (Ice Age) strata that does not contain significant amounts of carbon 14, even though such strata are supposed to be millions or billions of years old. Conventional carbon 14 laboratories have been aware of this anomaly since the early 1980s, have striven to eliminate it, and are unable to account for it. Lately the world's best such laboratory which has learned during two decades of low-C14 measurements how not to contaminate specimens externally, under contract to creationists, confirmed such observations for coal samples and even for a dozen diamonds, which cannot be contaminated in situ with recent carbon. These constitute very strong evidence that the earth is only thousands, not billions, of years old. 9. Not enough Stone Age skeletons. Evolutionary anthropologists say that Homo sapiens existed for at least 185,000 years before agriculture began, during which time the world population of humans was roughly constant, between 1 and 10 million people. All that time they were burying their dead, often with artifacts. By that scenario, they would have buried at least eight billion bodies. If the evolutionary time scale is correct, buried bones should be able to last for much longer than 200,000 years, so many of the supposed eight billion stone age skeletons should still be around (and certainly the buried artifacts). Yet only a few thousand have been found. This implies that the Stone Age was much shorter than evolutionists think, perhaps only a few hundred years in many areas. 10. Agriculture is too recent. The usual evolutionary picture has men existing as hunters and gatherers for 185,000 years during the Stone Age before discovering agriculture less than 10,000 years ago. Yet the archaeological evidence shows that Stone Age men were as intelligent as we are. It is more likely that men start agriculture very soon after the Flood.. 11. History is too short. According to evolutionists, Stone Age Homo sapiens existed for 190,000 years before beginning to make written records about 4,000 to 5,000 years ago. Prehistoric man built megalithic monuments, made beautiful cave paintings, and kept records of lunar phases.Why would he wait 200.000 years before using the same skills to record history?
just wached it. was very interesting to watch . and very well done . great info. i really enjoyed it. i am a firm belever in the bible and the flood and in biblical creation.
The heavens opened up - The vapor canopy collapsed -Extreme cold are from the firmament of heaven froze the waters on the earth instantaneously - we have been slowly defrosting since- naturally
There was much discussion of the warm oceans with no mention of the cause: ocean floor spreading creating rain for 40 days and heating the ocean water.
The ice-age came with the flood. Ice i s water. It was during the northern hemispheric arctic polar night (according to the dates given in the account: 40 days of heavy and cold precipitation (in absence of sunlight in the North during Nov/Dec/Jan) around 5200 b.p. acc to LXX, Flav. Jos., Sam. Pentateuch, and early Codices). It was icy slash, avalanches, ravines, deep freezes that killed the northern megafauna in catastrophy. Antarctic ice-shields began to build up fast only few month later towards and during southern polar night, antarctic winter. New Zealand, Tasmania, Patagonia, Fireland do not show equal amounts of thick ice-shields as the whole of the northern hemisphere does from the Arctic Ocean (with 900m deep glacial ice-scratches) down to New York and the Mid-West and northern France and Germany, from Greenland over the British Isles, Skandinavia and Siberia). The account refers to the experience of the author. The cycle of summer and winter is not a phenomenon in the tropics, and has never been.
One needs to remember that after the 40 days of rain, the flood waters rose for another 150 days. This would have floated any ice produced during the 40 days of rain away. So the snow that fell to produced the ice age had to fall after the flood had washed the earth's surface clean.
One needs to remember that after the 40 days of rain, the flood waters rose for another 150 days. This would have floated any ice produced during the 40 days of rain away. So the snow that fell to produced the ice age had to fall after the flood had washed the earth's surface clean.
@@roblangsdorf8758 Good reply. Thanks. The ice would have begun to float if those waters after the 40 days rose above them. But that was not the case in general. The ice-shield had risen up 3000-4000 meters. The waters from the deep in most places rose not beyond the ice-shield so that they would float. To assume an ice-age apart from the Antarctic developing after the flood is highly unlikely. Besides, we ought to remember that the account was written from the survivors' perspective, not from a bird's eye's view above the whole earth. And ice is to be considered as water, too, much like the stratospheric water vapour was called water by the narrator who I believe was this man: Noah by name.
Thinking of the flood. The water had to return to where it came. Mountain tops, north and south polar caps, underground oceans found, and in the air. Civilizations were found under water. Showing different ocean water levels. More ice, lower water level. Less ice, more water.
The bases of submarine canyons are about 3kms deep and they are formed under water. This indicates that the sea level after the Flood was at that level.
Please see this short where Dr Walker answers this question. "At the end of the Flood, where did all the water go?" - youtube.com/watch/Wcj6bnkHnyU For a more in depth explanation, I would recommend this article: "Where did all the water go?" - creation.com/where-did-all-the-water-go
Current sea level is up 390'' during the current 12000 year Holocene warming period. The Great Lakes and the North Sea are caused by retreating great ice sheets less than 8000 years ago.
The earth looks like gradual processes occurred like glaciation, but also rapid catastrophes occured - like the Grand Canyon. The two must be linked - it's just one planet. How are the two patterns linked?
I think I could have learned from this better with more of a succinct, bullet point type explanation of facts. I found this a little "here and there and back over here" and it was difficult to follow and hear a strong argument. I did hear some things I can take away but nothing I feel I can use in an exchange.
Good video. Excellent content. This video, though, would be much better if pictures were inserted, of the different things he was talking about, instead of just talking heads.
My understanding is that is not the cold that young earth creationists need to explain, so much as it is the HEAT! I'd love to hear the host ask EVERY guest who speaks on the show what their expert opinion is about the so called "heat problem" (the extreme heating that would have occured as a result of the theory young earth creationists propose regarding rapid decay of particles to more stable "daughter" elements) This is critical to young earth theories regarding so called, "absolute aging" and shortened half-lives. A lot of heat--pardon the pun--on young earth creationists about this MYSTERY. I'd love to hear what the experts, respectively, have to say on the topic.
Creation Ministries International has answered this question. You can find it by searching their site, creation.com, for 'heat problem'. Alternatively, you can find their article on it here: Too much heat in Noah's Flood? - creation.com/flood-heat-problem
I think that we have a very different environment to the past. I have heard it rained 40 days and nights with the flood from the Bible. I believe it was a massive eruption near the northern pole.A release of sulfur dioxide which caused rapid cooling. I think that we had higher humidity levels like our modern rain forests. This would explain how lush the planet was. We had trapped water underground. These rapid cooling of a hot, wet environment caused massive storms, geysers from the ground and eventually our ice age. I believe the explosion could have been so large as to interrupt the earths axis and rotational turn.
How did different animals get isolated on continents with no evidence of them on other continents? Example, marsupials in Australia. If they traveled from the middle East 4k years ago, why aren’t there any along the route?
The flood story speaks of waters above and waters below. There is evidence of tropical plants found in the stomachs of frozen animals in the northern climates as if the ice age and being frozen happened in hours. Only a massive falling of a thick cloud cover could cause this... Stars could be seen for the first time after the flood.
The level of delusion in this kind of person is remarkable! The really sad part is no matter how much hard core evidence you show them they are wrong they will never open their eyes!
@@klouis1886If by the the tip of South America you mean the Galapagos Islands, then they would take approximately: 4.454637964774951076320939334638 years
Short answer: no ONE tortoise did. Long answer: The continents began fracturing apart shortly after the Flood. Within a few centuries, the continental splitting accelerated. By that time, generations of animals had dispersed into all remote corners of the Land Mass/es. Tortoises might be slow, but not as slow as we like are given to think. The image of ONE (fully egg-laden) tortoise walking all the way from Ararat to South America... and another floating on some raft off to the Galapagos Islands... is one that fills the mind. But that is NOT what the Biblical account would have as consistent with reality. The Galapagos Islands arose as a mantle plume, between the Nazca and Cocos plates. It is possible that the mantle plume's flange was above water at one point and was connected to the North American continent, forming a bridge, before sinking.
Sedna came through our Galaxy disturbing everything including the moon, as it passed between the Earth and Mars all the volcanoes on earth erupted at the same time, deep cracks in the crust of the earth broke open allowing the water under the crust to flood the entire earth for one year, debris from the earth impacted the moon pushing it away from us (the earth facing side has the most impacts) etc… Sedna is the object God used to bring to pass the events of the flood, these events lead to the Ice Age, and the earth is still attempting to heal and go back to “normal” from this event even today
he did answer it. it was post flood. which means less than 4400 years ago. they mostly believe it started about 150 to 200 years after the Flood and later between 500 to 700 years before serious decline. that means it started about 4200 years ago and lasted until about 3500 years ago.
What happened to the cold regions on earth after the Great Flood: The Ice Age. And the ice from the great flood is still melting to this day. Case closed.
