Is the FA24DIT Subaru’s best engine for easy power gains? (And what mods get you to 300-400whp+)

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Hi everyone! Tune in to find out why the FA24DIT is Subaru’s best engine for tuning!
00:00 Intro
00:35 FA24DIT Overview
04:44 Stage 0 - No Mods
05:11 Stage 1 - Intake
05:46 Stage 2 - Intake and Turboback Exhaust
06:20 Stage 3+ - Intake, Turboback, Front Mount Intercooler, Upgraded Clutch, and E50 flex fuel.
07:15 Conclusion
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@ImportImageRacing Год назад

Diggin it!

@carswithsepp Год назад

Big fan! Haha

@OsightblinderO Год назад

“Suddenly I don’t mind the plastic cladding.” Heh. Damn straight. When the VB came out I was planning on getting something else that’s a bit more expensive but I changed my mind so quick after realizing these differences and test driving one. This engine will be legendary.

@carswithsepp Год назад

Agreed!

@ranran2218 Год назад

I personally didn't care for driving it. Steering was really horrible. No rev hang and smoother power delivery was cool but honestly I don't see enough reasons to trade in my 19 wrx for a 23 wrx especially when mine is paid off

@bretthansen8166 10 месяцев назад

Agreed I felt the same, I bought my 2023 in black, and it blends in very well. The new engine is phenomenal, my last Subaru was a 2007 WRX STI. I think an STI transmission swap would be all this car needs if you plan on making big power, the chassis and engine are fantastic to build on 👍🏻

@chrischarles9218 Год назад

Subaru had every intention to build an STI but the war against the internal combustion engine by the worlds "Elite" killed it.

@jonathanb1987 Год назад

Exactly! The version of the STI FA24 wouldn't make the EPA happy or meet their regulations, but it would have met car enthusiasts expectations of at least 400 hp at the crank.

@ranran2218 Год назад

And with new leadership at subaru that are very pro EV I doubt the sti is going to make a comeback.

@chrischarles9218 Год назад

@@ranran2218 Toyota just bounced their CEO and he was the guy that wanted Toyota to make more performance cars.

@tear728 Год назад

Klausy boy fuckin up my car enthusiasms

@ChiSpire Год назад

@Chrischarles, Convenient excuse for Subaru but I don’t believe that for a second. Other companies can make cars with 5 6 700 hp, Subaru already has the best MPG across the entire lineup for any company. They could easily make a car with much more power than VB WRX.

@Okaydogo_ Год назад

Absolutely insane man. Might need to FA Swap my STI 😂

@kingcooleyiv Год назад

I said the same thing lmao

@lucian7182 Год назад

It would literally be cheaper to throw a built ej block in your Sti.

@Okaydogo_ Год назад

@@lucian7182 that’s literally what’s in it right now, I’ve got a forged 207 Short block with stock 25 heads and a Fp black set up etc

@kingcooleyiv Год назад

@Lucian ik this lol its just fun to think about

@carswithsepp Год назад

If primemotoring can throw this engine in a crosstrek, this is super doable. Go for it!!

@louisGauto 10 месяцев назад

Build that engine and pair it with an sti transmission and rear diff and it will be amazing

@mofanzhang8229 Год назад

It's a decently thorough video comparing FA24F engine with EJ257. I think it is insane that a stage 3 E50 WRX is able to beat a forged internal + G25 660 turbo + intercooler + Ethanol boost cooler EA888 Audi TTS my friend has without touching the internals and turbo. It really shows how this engine is a cost efficient power house. I wish there is an STi with FA24F.

@giftedcracker Год назад

Im glad to see this. Ive been waiting to see what kind of power these will make. It kills me that the sti was killed 😢

@KushestWRX Год назад

Nice video man. People are definitely sleeping on the fa24 because they're too busy crying about having no sti. So glad I bought a 2022 wrx instead of a 2021 sti. I'm running e40 and intake with a jb4 tuner and the car rips. As far as the cladding, I personally love it and think it looks ridiculous when painted. You said exactly what I've been telling people for months now. The sti always had a better motor than the wrx, with the fa24 here, there is no better motor to put in an sti and the money savings you get from not buying sti badges can be put into performance essentially making it the only smart option when it comes to performance and dollar for dollar amount. Don't get me wrong, after having my 04 wrx it was my dream to have an sti one day but I'll gladly give up the dream of an sti badged car for the best motor subaru has made. Why go back in time when you can help lead the future..... Check out some of my videos of my vb and I'll give you a subscribe, hopefully I'll get one back... peace

@ranran2218 Год назад

Nobody is saying the fa24 isn't impressive. The issues are around the super weak transmission that wasn't upgraded from the va chasis. The numb steering and the overall look are other issues brought up regularly.

@KushestWRX Год назад

@ranran2218 maybe you're not saying it but yes, plenty of people are saying saying it before even learning about it.

@Not.The.Avg.Smitty Год назад

@@KushestWRXproblem is it hasn't been around long enough for reliability statistics. Not many 300k mi fa engines out there, the people that praise reliability typically are the ones doing proper maintenance. Reliability and maintenance go hand in hand as you're aware some don't even change oils regularly or check it until a light comes on(by then it's too late). Doing donuts starving the oil pump, mods without proper tuning, etc... then they complain reliability when it's broken. With that said, I'm not saying it isn't reliable just give it time and stats will come out in a few years like every other car. Unfortunately there's no stats saying if he/she trashed it causing it to be unreliable.

@matthewwain9958 Год назад

Yes and no. Those performance essentials like brakes, gearbox, diffs, better seating, better suspension etc ate all gonna cost to upgrade. Saying that, I would love to see a decently modified VB with brakes, suspension, trans etc to see what it can do. The chassis I assume is an improvement over the VA generally, so very curious.on track capabilities. Would also love to see an FA24'd STI,. but I suspect that will be an extremely involved mod since the fuel system I assume is so different.

@ranran2218 Год назад

@moditfromday1 and if we are all being honest the wrx and sti are the least reliable subaur vehicles. So even if the vb is better than the va that doesn't make it reliable. Most wrx and sti even when not modded don't make it to 100k miles.

@Gedden 4 месяца назад

Great video. Really gave me the info I was looking for.

@christianwhite7994 Год назад

I've driven the VB a few times already, stock form feels so much more responsive and refined than the previous gen WRX or STI.

@Mike_44 7 месяцев назад

What a great video! Thanks for posting it.

@execprotect6147 Год назад

Best subaru engine ever. I'm making 340/380 on 93 with bolt ons. 80s chevy big block torque in a 3300lb awd drive car.

@marcinfil3673 Год назад

That's great numbers! Do you have a tune?

@turbonoise Год назад

@@marcinfil3673 Yes, Dmann tuned.

@carswithsepp Год назад

Right on !

@ChopperGreg Год назад

What kind of bolt ons? I just got my VB and am looking to do about the same numbers in mine. LOVING the car so far

@turbonoise Год назад

@@ChopperGreg ETS Intake, Charge Pipe, Intercooler, Catback.

@kylesnavely6165 Год назад

Great overview!

@hahaadventures4838 Год назад

Absolutely love the FA24 torque!

@sammo900killer Год назад

great video man, this makes me excited for the future of the aftermarket scene with the fa24. it’s fun finding out the capabilities and limits of a new platform!

@chrischarles9218 Год назад

Oh yeah. The FA24 is gonna be putting numbers up like never before seen in a Subaru.

@carswithsepp Год назад

You and me both! Thanks for watching

@BoostedFA Год назад

JR at prime motoring is a legend. Definitely one of the top places on the east coast.

@ajwest747 Год назад

This hyped me up enough to consider trading my '19 VA for a VB eventually 😂

@Antelope46 11 месяцев назад

Amazing video! Thank you!

@paulmarsdensr1095 Год назад

This is why Subaru needs to make a 2024 fas powered STI.

@carswithsepp Год назад

That would be really nice. But might be more of a hybrid or EV realistically :/

@paulmarsdensr1095 Год назад

@@carswithsepp Yeahhhh I know right?

@seffseffseffseffseff1662 Год назад

@@carswithsepp I think it would actually be cool if they made a hybrid sti similar to the current wrc hybrids, but unfortunatly subaru left wrc ages ago 😔

@dom_z3480 Год назад

This is amazing 😭😭😭 6:30-7:15

@fadmap9676 Год назад

Best engines subaru ever produced was and always will be the H6 EZ series designed along side Porsche and the H6 EG33, lots of Porsche tuners even swap their older 911s for the Subaru EZ or EG 30 H6 motors. Handle insane amount of tq on stock internals and boosted applications are unreal. Lots of STI guys swap their EJs for the H6 EZ or EG motors as well for the same reason.

@carswithsepp Год назад

I might just make a video about this !

@VjStrikerProductions Год назад

@@carswithsepp yes please do

@tonieyaj Год назад

Andy Forrest has a great example of a badass gc with a six cylinder. Those things are monsters

@shaunallen8256 Год назад

Nice video man! You should be hyped by what the FA24 is doing. Too soon to go slap some STI badges on my 22? lol

@carswithsepp Год назад

Throw on the STI wing too 👍

@Aether52 2 месяца назад

I plan on slapping it on once I do an STI tranny swap and upgrade the brembos. I put UEL headers on so it sounds like one but I want to get those couple crucial components before I slap it on.

@VinRZ Год назад

I have the FA24D BRZ. The amount of feelings I have hurt on track is immense. NA FA24D can make as much power as 240wph, with just a great header + e85. But stock is already plenty. I can only imagine how much more power can it make when people boost it while adding in some low compression pistons.

@AcuRobbie Год назад

but why have we not gotten a crosstrek with a fa24dit and a manual, what an awesome package that would be.

@xtrekrex Год назад

I have a Crosstrek Sport and the VB. It would be such a game changer if the FA24DIT was in the Crosstrek with a similar tune as the VB.

@murmsuniversalrobotics3938 Месяц назад

@@xtrekrexthe Outback Wilderness is a beast. I didn't buy one for speed, but speed it has. My wife wants it and told me I can trade her car in to get a WRX if she can keep the Outback. I'd sooner buy a Crosstrek with the WRX engine, but I'll settle for a lifted WRX for rally.

@mayaboylan5414 Год назад

the problem No one has pushed it enough And you never see the ones that break You only see the good parts

@bt4308 Год назад

Look up prime motoring. They were working with the FA24 far before the VB came out. They used one straight from the ascent and they found that its super reliable and managed to eat a whopping amount of abuse and tuning and hit a record of 560whp just fine, except for the fact that it leaned out and melted a piston. But thats a fueling problem, not an engine problem. In their testimony they said they see it doing 600whp just fine. And this is all on fully stock internals

@TCraig00 21 час назад

Now if i could get this swapped into a GC8, I'd buy one immediately. Not tryna blow another EJ again 🤦🏽‍♂️

@carswithsepp Час назад

You can be the first!!

@imoffendedthatyouareoffended 9 месяцев назад

Something I’ve noticed is that the silver concept sti is literally the wrx we have now minus 50-80k in aesthetic mods. It’s just a more tamed version. Has all the cladding and all.

@filiplaskovski9993 11 месяцев назад

Yeah a catch can is a must with these direct engine fa24’s !! Those valves will carbon up real quick

@drewmiller3447 Год назад

I love Subaru I have a FBO VA WRX with a STI DRIVETRAIN SWAP I’m very interested to see if these FA24s can withstand that type of power over the course of 50k 60k 70k cuz most people who buy these cars use them as a daily so we don’t just need power we need reliable power also these cars still have the weak link which is the split case 5 speed that Subaru just added a 6th gear to when I was going for power in my WRX first thing I did was the drivetrain swap best 6k I could have spent turned the car into a different animal but these FA24s make great power just interested to see them over the long run can it handle all the HP and TRQ for 50,60,70 k miles being fail driven? And I KNOW that split case transmission cannot handle that type of power over a long period of time even with a aftermarket clutch it has been the week link in the WRX for some time now that is where that extra $10-$12k comes in at when buying the STI is having that amazing STI drivetrain anyway I love Subarus have owned quite a few still own my FBO WRX with the STI drivetrain swap but I really want to see the longevity of these FA24s over 10s of thousands of miles but all I have to say is I’m glad Subaru made a motor that responds so well to Tunning anyway great video man and I hope these motors last making that type of power it would be awsome!!! Keep up the good work l8er

@invertedv12powerhouse77 Год назад

If they took cues from the 86/brz internal improvements they made and built on that it would be a pretty good boxer engine. The 86/brz's 2.4L have a lot of small changes that makes a difference. An actual oil pickup designed for a car that does quick turns and internal baffling for oil. Increased lubrication for the bearings, etc

@hal0mann Год назад

Im curious to see how long these engines can hold close to 400WHP. I'd love to get one and run E85 with a flex fuel tune.

@australianmade2659 Год назад

I have to outback XT in Australia. It’s slightly defined compared to US model. I find the motor to be very tractable. I run 98 octane in Oz (different rating to states)

@fathimaawali3043 Год назад

Hi, Do you belive its relibale? I am planning to keep it stage 0

@matthewwain9958 Год назад

The Outback and Ascent that are much heavier run on regular gas at essentially the same power as the WRX that has to premium. I am absolutely not surprised that flat irons could so what they did with 91. It would have been interesting if Subaru had an octane reader in the car and allowed running regular gas. That would have set it apart IMO for a family fun vehicle. Just add decent fuel when you wanna have some fun.

@carswithsepp Год назад

Yeah that would be great. Save so much money too with these gas prices

@filipbronola536 Год назад

You can run 87 in the wrx. Manual says 87 will be fine, but you won't get the same performance. If the manual says its fine and you're burning gas for regular driving, then use 87.

@matthewwain9958 Год назад

@@filipbronola536 Interesting! Need to get a screen shot of the manual to see what the wording is. Often they put something like 'can be used, but not recommended' etc. My wife's FA24T'd Outback is advertised as 87 for everything, and it performs great, so I have some hope :)

@UpstateSTI Год назад

For some reason my 2020 STI has mods and makes almost 400. This is insane

@johnny.3693 Год назад

Very informative. I love mine enough to sell my 2021 Mustang GT.

@carswithsepp Год назад

The mustang is sweet though! Why are you switching?

@austinpoaurs9871 Год назад

Funny, that's what I did. Sold my 21gt while prices were inflated, waited 6months and ended up with the 22wrx. No regrets here, great car, especially during the snow season.

@xtrekrex Год назад

@@austinpoaurs9871 I recognize your name from tuner talk! Hell yeah!

@phillipandrews7610 11 месяцев назад

So if I do a stage 3 tune on my 2022 STI and I keep up with the scheduled maintenance...how much am I shortening the life expectancy of my car?

@chasestoddard6984 4 месяца назад

Downpipe tune is 400hp intake intercooler e85 ect is well over 450-500whp I’ve seen and tuned it myself

@eknapp70 Год назад

For the record I’ve been waiting for people to realize the potential of the platform but I had some proximity to early info. The ej257 still revs higher but the cost to make it reliable is too much

@MayatheDog4151 Год назад

Haha. I still believe in my STI…🏎️💨

@carswithsepp Год назад

I believe in the STI too hehe

@Aether52 2 месяца назад

Ngl I really need to dyno mine. I have an intake, chargepipe, UEL headers, and a catback. Tuned by drunkman. No idea how much I'm rolling on. Still need a downpipe and intercooler, might wait until I have those before I dyno it.

@MJT-DA 4 месяца назад

Theres already a body kit that gets rid of all the plastic cladding and replaces it with body matching panels.

@matthewguilford9340 Год назад

Yall should look up kozmic in houston and see there builds if u thing the diy in ur garage is awesome.

@jake987753 3 месяца назад

Maybe you can answer this question for me, if the FA24 makes power easier why can’t the FA20 do the same. It still seems as if the FA20 still takes quite a few $$$ to make it over the 350hp area.

@imoffendedthatyouareoffended 9 месяцев назад

Also it’s because of all the changes made that i decided to change from my 2020 to a 23. This new one is the best of them all. The shittiest thing is the new steering rack. Some love it some hate it. I’m partial. I miss my 2020 but luckily it’s a simple swap.

@Jbsawn2805 Год назад

for those wondering you can get 200+hp more than stock with just about 3k in mods

@BoostedFA Год назад

My 2018 made 300 Whp on a mustang dyno with intake & exhaust

@thedevilsadvocate3710 11 месяцев назад

They should bring a limited run of 5000 models for the USA. Subaru STI 22B. A 2 door coupe AWD, manual, 2.5L boxer 4 making 450 - 500 HP with all the go fast goodies. Anything less would be boring.

@wayward03 Год назад

Paint matched fenders and side skirts and it looks decent...

@brandon_buildsDIY Год назад

Hopefully they redesign the body, I’ll buy one then

@cryMOREjaja Год назад

What’s a turbo back exhaust ?

@O8WRx Месяц назад

The power seems to come slightly easier, but how does the tranny/ drive train hold up? The STI is very stout.

@gladdy02 Год назад

How is 19 in the city and 25 mpg on the highway efficient exactly?

@carswithsepp Год назад

The video is not really highlighting the engine’s efficiency in the context of gas mileage. But rather it’s receptiveness to modifications compared to previous generation subaru wrx and sti engines. Which is attributed to the efficiency of the engine design holistically (i.e fuel delivery, forced induction strategies, etc.) I see where you’re coming from but we’ve got to consider this is a full time awd turbo sport sedan, it was never going to get great gas mileage. But if we want to talk about mileage, it can at least run on 87 haha!

@STiRiceBaby 8 месяцев назад

It take more than just having more potential to make more power, that ugly shit will never be an STI killer ❤

@AustinSamuelF Год назад

There won’t be another ICE STI. There will be a Brembo brake package WRX though.

@oldfashionedwrx3574 Год назад

does this mate to sti 6 sp? same bell house pattern? i want one in gc8

@777kason Год назад

Yes

@michelvermeulen61 Год назад

The plastic look good... lolll !!! Seriously this WRX is amazing... Prime Motoring 479whp@469wtq WOWWWWW 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪

@dom_z3480 Год назад

FA30 now

@RobHTech 10 месяцев назад

It should kind of be obvious because the turbo adds only about 50hp. Turbo should easily add 100hp+ if the engine is built well. And, we now know the FA24 can easily handle 350-400hp with stock build.

@olrzyn Год назад

if you are going with power - you maybe right. additionally STI have DCCD which WRX never had - this is the reason to buy STI :)

@carswithsepp Год назад

The one thing I should have mentioned is that the STI transmission and trick diffs are still better

@777kason Год назад

Swap the trans it’s only 3k

@noahgiles7781 Год назад

This is the comment I've been looking for. I wouldn't have gotten my 06 STI if it didn't have a bulletproof transmission with a center diff. Sure, the EJ25 is a ticking time bomb but it sounds good.

@matthewguilford9340 Год назад

I'd rather have a high torque motor then high power, the torque is what will kill the hellcats

@aerusofalbany5696 Год назад

can it handle that?

@WarriorsPhoto Год назад

I have driven a 2022 WRX. It's the best WRX Subaru has made. I love the old EJ20 engines. And will happily pass them up for this modern platform. Oh and an exhaust on these sounds amazing 🥲.

@IZylusI Год назад

Looks like I'm trading in my 2018 WRX with a 2022...

@Joebauers2505 4 месяца назад

This didnt age well, considering Subaru said they wont be doing a STI again with a gasoline engine.

@pharmztko Год назад

Well no Sti is able to make anywhere close to 400hp with any Boltons much less and intake and tune like the fa24. Sti needs full boltons, fuel upgrades and a bigger turbo. Wait until we get bigger turbos for the VB. If you’re building a 800hp race engine, the EJ is better right now because it’s been out forever and has decades of R&D and it’s not limited by direct injection.

@spencersinger3209 Год назад

The s209 can with the factory hks turbo…but that’s a very limited car

@Dulc3B00kbyBrant0n Год назад

sti can make 400/400 without bigger turbo or injectors. with only tune, headers, high flow catted down and up pipe. and thats a reliable tune that will last as long as stock if not more since the car isnt trying to cut power for emissions. for most people thats more than enough but ugly styling and bad sound will make u seek more power since its more boring

@bryanalonso7978 Год назад

The back bumper is a huge pass for me id still with a built block gutted interior and sti trans swap over the vb

@shaunallen8256 Год назад

In time there will be plenty of options to fix that issue if its that big of a deal for you. I own a 22 and in the 22 circles there is already an aftermarket back bumper in the works that will ditch the cladding. Personally, I like the cladding. Its unique and if you ask me the stance is where these cars hurt the most in the visual department. Lower it a few inches and slap some good wheels on the car and it starts to transform. In time I hope to swap all the plastic with carbon but that is a long term goal.

@bryanallendorf7064 Год назад

I love my VB but the empty spot where the DCCD knob would have been still makes me wonder the potential this car could have had under true STI engineering 🤔. Kinda sad.

@carswithsepp Год назад

Yeah for real !

@jweng6294 Год назад

Just tuning my VA now. This makes me sad lol

@carswithsepp Год назад

Hey! The VA is still an awesome car. I would take a 2019+ STI over a VB wrx. I just like the character the EJ motor brings

@spencersinger3209 Год назад

@5:00 fake news… 18’ STI made 277whp 325 whp tune only. Mikey 👨‍💻

@carswithsepp Год назад

Dyno results are created by fake news!!!!

@777kason Год назад

🤡

@rogerpotempo Год назад

huh, odd, I didnt think that much could be different from the other subaru platforms, that being said, I saw a guy at a pro tuners shop, bought EVERYTHING AVAILABLE for his 2023 wrx and got WAY UNDER 400hp they esplanane, new platform, not many aftermarket parts available and with no new cars on the horizon, no new support is coming, why would aftermarket companies build a 1 off part for 1 year car only? or am I wrong I have a 2017 sti at 350hp and a 2005 sti at 550hp

@dom_z3480 Год назад

I still would uel and make it unreliable 😂

@carswithsepp Год назад

LOL! Honestly why not, can we retrofit a 4th cylinder cooling mod?? I can imagine subaru engineers seeing us putting uel and just face palm

@jayczyzyk9707 Год назад

subarue is plagued with many reliability issues

@binkybop9252 Год назад

This is something that every non Sti owner says.

@carswithsepp Год назад

Sure thing binky

@bretthansen8166 10 месяцев назад

I have a 2007 WRX STI Hawkeye and a new 2023 WRX in black. The STI has better steering feel, and more raw and enjoyable to drive, but the 2023 has a far better chassis and motor than my Hawkeye. The 2023 would need an STI transmission if you plan on making big power, but out of the box this is the best WRX (non STI) by far.

@STiRiceBaby 8 месяцев назад

It take more than just having more potential to make more power, that ugly shit will never be an STI killer ❤