Is the First Chinese Train in Europe Bad ? CRRC Sirius review for Regiojet

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CRRC and their ill-fated trainset Sirius experienced a tumultuous start in Europe. However, one trainset is now ready for passenger service with Regiojet. How does this train compare to Siemens, Stadler, and Alstom? There are plenty of good ideas, but let's find out!
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Date: February 2024
Railway company: Regiojet
Route : Ústí nad Labem to Kolín
Time : 2h04
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00:00 : Intro
00:58 : Trip information
01:40 : Usti Nad Labem station
02:06 : CRRC Sirius history
06:09 : Regiojet App
06:35 : Boarding
07:08 : Seat check
08:52 : Departure
09:21 : Turning around
10:14 : Mid roll ads
10:46 : Poor soundproofing
11:02 : Walkthrough and other seat check
14:19 : Toilets Time
14:46 : Tests
15:03 : Bad ?
15:37 : Live App
15:43 : Bang on time, to the second
16:00 : Thoughts
16:27 : Outro

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@newfelo 4 месяца назад

Here in Chile EFE (State's Railway Company) bought several CRRC trains for suburban and Intercity lines, and they have proven to be quite reliable and comfortable... a suburban unit hit a large truck a few weeks ago and it endured the crash quite better than most of us thought

@edisonz2006 4 месяца назад

CRRC is a hit or miss. Sometimes they actually make good trains for foreign markets, other times not.

@BLACKSTA361 4 месяца назад

@@edisonz2006So essentially like any Company? Cause i couldnt think of a single one that has a clean record

@Pidalin 4 месяца назад

in case of truck vs train, train always wins, it doesn't matter what train it is 😀

@Alex-pj8nz 4 месяца назад

@@edisonz2006Where is your experience in that, did you ride the trains or you just heard from it ?

@ChinaSongsCollection 4 месяца назад

*@edisonz2006* There are AT LEAST 100s of thousands (if not millions) of trains, bullet trains, metro trains in China 🇨🇳. And as far as I know, NONE of them have this problem. In fact, you can easily try the famous coin stand up experiment on ANY of their high speed trains (and they have many 10s of thousands of those trains). And I assume they are all made by the same company. I highly recommend you go and try it yourself.

@ALWH1314 4 месяца назад

Half of the fun watching RU-vid video is reading the comments. It is specially interesting when the video involves China. The extreme detailed critiques must be very helpful for these Chinese companies to improve their products that no other country gets.

@angusyoung1448 4 месяца назад

That’s true. Those comments are so much focusing on the room for improvement for anything “Made in China”. That’s why the quality of Chinese products is getting improved so fast. 😂

@zhurongonmars6256 4 месяца назад

Some people just hate 😂

@blackwarrior7473 4 месяца назад

what a great observation.😂😊

@jmg8246 3 месяца назад

Anyone criticizing Chinese train shall force to ride NYC subway for 24 hours.

@qiangjustin7342 3 месяца назад

They are good at identifying the shortcomings of Chinese products, but turn a blind eye to the poor quality of their own country's products. Why? Because they have become accustomed to the poor quality of their own country's products

@twoheadlines 4 месяца назад

Interesting! Having travelled a lot on Chinese high-speed rail services the layout of this trainset looks strikingly similar to that which I've seen on HSR services between Shanghai, Chongqing and Chengdu. The interior layout of the trainsets are however, much more streamlined, very quiet, and I'm pretty certain the toilet doors DO NOT rattle. Oh, and the Chinese HSR would cover the 135km distance in about 20 - 25 minutes. 😄🙃

@jmsmilfajt 4 месяца назад

Well, are you really trying to compare Shanghai (29 000 000 people) with Ústí nad Labem (92 000 people)? HSR express service with Interregio service with many stops? Or High-speed train (for 700 people) and Regional train (for 200 people)? Czechia does not have a pure HSR yet but considering the population, the rail services are good. One can travel Prague-Ostrava (350 km) in 3 hours on express trains.

@jsc3417 4 месяца назад

It is made to the customers spec and price tag.

@peterwilliams7335 4 месяца назад

@@jsc3417: I could not agree with you more. The soundproofing issue is NOT manufactural issue but it is what customer specification issue. China is able to make a quieter trains like what it does for all of its domestic high-speed trains. It is up to the customer how much it wants to pay and what conform level and model of the train it wants and for certain price tag. Chinese manufacture cannot be blamed for the soundproofing issue. Ask your government to pick a better soundproofing model. By the way, this is just the inner-city commuter train and not high-speed train. In comparison with other trains made by different manufactures for similar type of train, this train is so much better in many ways.

@_seola_ 4 месяца назад

@@peterwilliams7335 I think the tracks have to do a lot with how noisy the train is, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think those tracks are pretty old.

@peterwilliams7335 4 месяца назад

@@_seola_ You are 100% correct. I am not sure if the trains are operating on newer tracks that are using for the high-speed trains operating in China.

@TheRedc0met 4 месяца назад

I rode HSR trains in Shanghai. Soundproofing and seating wasn't a problem. I was able to sleep on my way to my destination. Seems the operator cheaped out on options for this trainset.

@mythbusterthe6749 4 месяца назад

I agree with you. CRRC will build a train to tailor to each nation needs.

@sinjatlai8123 3 месяца назад

Just old European infrastructure,

@rickychan9227 2 месяца назад

you pay what you got, not the manufacturer, it's the buyer.

@RubieBG 2 месяца назад

@@sinjatlai8123 Old Czechia Soviet infrastructure from 50 years ago, and they didn't bother to change it since entering EU. Most of noise coming from old rails since welding of joints is old-school 1950's make.

@Jkl62200 4 месяца назад

Isn't the configuration/legroom /finishing touches etc dictated by the operator and not the manufacturer? It's that way for airplanes.

@shivamanand3686 4 месяца назад

Heyyy ...I have a question.... how can I get 3d mapping of cities ...same as this creator uses ?

@anthonyxuereb792 4 месяца назад

Yes I believe you are correct, usually they have a full-size mock-up for the customer to visit, experience and to request changes etc. and that includes color selection.

@citizenerased1992 3 месяца назад

Remember that regio were not the intended customer though, this layout was probably chosen by Leo.

@CarstenHazz 3 месяца назад

@@shivamanand3686 It's google earth

@shivamanand3686 3 месяца назад

@@CarstenHazz thanks Carsten, but I have used that app but it works nearly same as google maps atleast in 3d object option . May be in pc but in phone it shows only 2d image.

@benabka 24 дня назад

I am from Tunisia, I regularly use trains in China for business trips. Some trips are as long as 7 to 9 hours when i travel from south to north. (traveling at 350km/h). Very comfortable and reliable.

@aboard04 4 месяца назад

Since I have tried many trains around the globe, I think the noise of a train is mostly caused by the rough or crooked railway. I still remember I almost threw up when commuted between Switzerland and Germany with inter-state train because the crooked and sloping railway. I also tried Chinese high speed railway many times: although I did not try the famous”erect a coin” experiment, I quite enjoyed the quietness and stability when the train kept a steady speed of 350km/h.

@Tom-Lahaye 4 месяца назад

I can absolutely say that the railway tracks on that particular line are NOT in bad condition, while on holiday in Czech republic I travelled that line some years ago in a train made up of traditional coaching stock like what Regio Jet uses and that trip was smooth. The door rattling definitively is caused by something in the running gear not being properly constructed or adjusted.

@ChinaSongsCollection 4 месяца назад

@@Tom-Lahaye I'm very surprised to hear this because there are literally 100s of thousands (if not millions) of trains, bullet trains, metro trains in China. And as far as I know, NONE of them have this problem. In fact, you can easily try the famous coin stand up experiment on any of their high speed trains (and they have many 10s of thousands of those trains). And I assume they are all made by the same company.

@jmsmilfajt 3 месяца назад

Yes the quality of the railroad plays a major role in the smoothness of the ride but first, this railway line is not in a particularly bad shape - the sleepers are older here but the line is maintained for the heaviest possible cargo trains. Secondly, old ČD trains on slow local trains ride smoothly here and so do the Regiojet regional express trains that are hauled by a locomotive. Absolutely smooth ride even with 40+ years old coaches. This CRRC Sirius unit also rides relatively smoothly but the noise is unbearable. When you travel with regular Regiojet coaches, the only thing you hear is the A/C. On Sirius, you feel like in a spaceship because the traction motors are soo loud. It is really bad even on the completely new and smooth railroad at VUZ Velim test centre.

@wu05354207 4 месяца назад

I love the train ! WOW very impressive business class, best i have ever seen !

@stefanwerner1560 4 месяца назад

14:53 „CRRC crew working to monitor proper functioning“ - love it! 😂😴

@klootzak347 4 месяца назад

And he's sleeping lol, explains the crappy quality

@RoSi4You 4 месяца назад

LOL

@dijikstra8 4 месяца назад

There is apparently a thing in China about napping after lunch at work, perhaps that's what's happening here :)

@etbadaboum 4 месяца назад

Working himself to exhaustion!

@MattsFikezolo-lo7wq 4 месяца назад

@@klootzak347 You get crappy stuff when you pay crappy price. Go and take a ride on Fixing 400.

@SamsonOhsem 4 месяца назад

CRRC is seems to be a world leading technology when it comes to Train system.

@shivamanand3686 4 месяца назад

Heyyy ...I have a question.... how can I get 3d mapping of cities ...same as this creator uses ?

@alexp3752 4 месяца назад

Sorry, I would take France's SNCF and Germany's DB anytime...

@havencat9337 3 месяца назад

have you at least try the CRRC? the french one its nice but not as comfy... sorry i traveled many times from UK to France and also inside China they are def not better. Like it or not the chinese have more speed train then therest of the world combined! that should tell you where the best trains are.@@alexp3752

@zoltans72 3 месяца назад

'seems to be' based on what ? not based on this train, for sure.

@tuaninhcong6954 2 месяца назад

@@alexp3752 I disagree, if not the chinese, i would take the japanese or singaporean. I have travalled mostly through east asia and europe. The Asian train system wins over anyday

@espaciobarra 4 месяца назад

The soundproofing issue doesn't really surprise me: I've used a couple other trains made by CRRC and it seems like it's a persistent problem. I would say that they make perfectly serviceable rolling stock but they're still a bit behind on the finishing touches. Great video as usual, Thibault!

@TheFiretiger20 4 месяца назад

trains must be sturdy and long lasting but this looks doesn't built to last

@hwileyiii 4 месяца назад

They're not. They have a history of breakdowns

@abirbo 4 месяца назад

Have you travelled in the CRRC high speed trains in China?

@in90transit 4 месяца назад

I guess you're Argentinian? I thought the trains that SOFSE bought were comfortable

@canto_v12 4 месяца назад

Like their cars, it’ll take some iterations for the Chinese trains to get it right, especially for more luxurious train types which China generally does not yet produce for regional domestic markets. Chinese markets primarily rely on high speed rail, or older basic trains. They’ll figure it out soon enough, though.

@RamTheGre721 4 месяца назад

If you ever find yourself in Madrid you should try the C-9 commuter line. It is a meter-gauge railway that goes up in the mountains of the Sierra de Guadarrama with trains from the 70s! It is a short ride, so it is perfect if you are in Madrid a short time!

@keatkhamjornmeekanon7616 3 месяца назад

It's the first time I hear that 1 metre gauge rail used outside Southeast Asia.

@DR_1_1 3 месяца назад

@@keatkhamjornmeekanon7616 There are still some lines left in Europe with 1 meter... A few trains have a variable gauge system and can adapt to different spacing, When I was a kid I took the Talgo, a train between Spain and France, Switzerland, that was using both gauges. In Switzerland you have a few trains with both 1 and 1.435 m.

@bustixaniego 3 месяца назад

@@keatkhamjornmeekanon7616 we have a few in spain: Galicia, Asturias and León have meter gauge used as commuter lines for rural/less populated areas

@michaelbruchas6663 4 месяца назад

I think CRRC is building the next series of Chicago CTA subway cars at the old Pullman plant on the South side of Chicago. American workers, strict American construction supervision but Chinese engineering. So far, so good.

@alexp3752 4 месяца назад

Chinese engineering? Heaven help us! - Former EVP/Technics, Asia based airline.

@suckmemore 4 месяца назад

@@alexp3752 u mean boeing?

@evilh0ly 3 месяца назад

@@alexp3752 - the world had the same reaction when the Japanese and the Koreans started building better quality product.

@theancientsancients1769 3 месяца назад

@@alexp3752Have you even seen Chinese high speed trains ? China has the world most advanced rail network and fastest trains ! Americans are lucky if they get anything Chinese. Although cheaper varieties are exported to Europe etc as those Rail companies save money

@user-sj6ic1oh9d 3 месяца назад

@@theancientsancients1769 Serbia bought CHineese HS train sets for 200 km/h as the same sum of money as it did bought 3 Stadler KISS Double Decker 2 years ago !

@Brauiz90 4 месяца назад

The next country for CRRC's trains will be Austria - the private operator Westbahn ordered CRRC units (the first one has been seen in Leipzig, Germany these days...)

@dgu8240 3 месяца назад

not true they are just renting four units for trials.

@DR_1_1 3 месяца назад

I can't believe Germany is now using Chinese trains... of course with their politicians shooting the country in the back, it was expected.

@vukaleksic1654 2 месяца назад

Yesterday one of five came to Serbia

@Lenskha 4 месяца назад

Great video, very informative and relaxing! and good job on the editing, in the past the bell sound and train noises used to be quite loud. I'm happy that's it not longer the case :)

@theobrattinga500 4 месяца назад

Great video !!

@sgbuses 4 месяца назад

Once they get it right, you can be prepared to see them everywhere. Almost all the trains in Singapore introduced since 2010 are made in China, even with the big European brand names stuck on them.

@icebaby6714 4 месяца назад

When I watch your video, it reminds me of a classic Czech movie called "The Good Soldier Schweik" based on Jaioslav Hasek's book, which I watched it multiple times in black and white when I was a kid. Great video, dude, thanks for showing us Regiojet new train.

@scottyerkes1867 4 месяца назад

Nice business accommodations. Sleek train. Thanks Thibault👌💚

@sarae9302 4 месяца назад

I actually love how this train sounds.

@shivamanand3686 4 месяца назад

Heyyy ...I have a question.... how can I get 3d mapping of cities ...same as this creator uses ?

@csl3989 Месяц назад

didn't get your mean. dont understand what are you talking, can you explain?

@drdewott9154 4 месяца назад

I just realised the standard class seats on these are the same seats as Flixtrain uses. Afaik many of the design components in these trains are actually from Czech and polish suppliers.

@FilFee 4 месяца назад

They're actually not the same seats. These are "heavily inspired" and made in China. They are actually about 10 cm shorter, so if you're over 185 cm, you'll be hitting your shoulders on the seat wings. At least that's what happened to me when I tried this train a few days ago.

@pipiqiqi4010 4 месяца назад

this train just made by China follow the requirement of Czech customer. in China, there is no need to have this design.

@RadifHossain-bb2hy 4 месяца назад

Very nice video keep it up

@Nielson941 3 месяца назад

1990s: Chinese started export products with very low quality 2000s: some Made in China products have improved, and still keep low prices 2010s: most Chinese products are improved greatly, while keep prices reasonable 2020s: most Chinese made products meet international standards, some are very good especially EV,and electronics. 2030s: all Chinese made products are excellent, with reasonable prices…but anti-China people are still whining no matter what..blah blah

@nothing56644 18 дней назад

People can't criticize without acknowledging the fact China is superior in manufacturing and infrastructure

@anandsuralkar2947 17 дней назад

when government hides 100s of train accidents u shouldn't trust any train exported from that country

@BarukoKen 14 дней назад

@@nothing56644 deraliment machines

@llllilliliiili 14 дней назад

So ridiculous opinion, because Chinese electronics companies often show their technical defections even they’ve been announcing their technology is currently in perfect condition

@user-nr2uw5mb5z 12 дней назад

@@llllilliliiili技术缺陷这是一个非常严重的指控，同时也要面对各种法律挑战，尤其对于客户而言，所以，当你职责他们产品有技术缺陷时必须拿出法律保护的证据！兄弟，现在该你提出这些证据了，我相信，美国客户尤其美国政府非常愿意采纳这些的证据！

@shawnd-v1660 4 месяца назад

Now it makes sense why the Waratahs here in Sydney are so loud, but I find that more of a positive since I like hearing the traction motors

@johnlang4198 4 месяца назад

The HCMT units here in Melbourne are also pretty good, but the bias towards standing room is a big drawback. A journey from the City to Pakenham (almost the same distance as Central to Richmond) standing most of the way would truly suck.

@peterelvery 4 месяца назад

Not really comparable. Only 4 of the 8 cars on a Waratah have traction motors, they're Hitachi, not CRRC, and the windows are soundproofed.

@ktipuss 4 месяца назад

The Waratahs are not as loud as that CRRC train. The noise on that Czech train is very noticeable.

@crypticTV 2 месяца назад

@@ktipuss it's cause the Czech operator cheaped out. None of the CRRC trains anywhere in Asia has that issue 🙂

@lzh4950 Месяц назад

@@crypticTV Where I'm from (Singapore) the rolling stock made by CRRC & its predecessors also mostly* sound quieter but it could also be because of different propulsion systems used e.g. C151A-C might be using a newer version of the Fuji Electric propulsion also used on the older C751B, & they sound similar but higher-pitched & quieter. Meanwhile the even newer R151s use Bomberdier propulsion instead that's even quieter, & sound similar to London's Elizabeth Line/CrossRail's Class 345 actually *T251 (with propulsion from Mitsubishi) are an exception, with a ringing noise that persists even when not going around bends on the tracks, but it went away after 2 years, apparently after the tracks were re-grinded to make them smoother

@sunshine7453 3 месяца назад

Europe or anybody can buy any train from anybody. Until the Americans jump in and tell them that they can’t do that. This is when politics is above common sense.

@tfalani3861 2 месяца назад

Germany must surely realise their horrible trusting of US to the detriment of their country? Crazy! Germany had a real good set up with Russia. If Germany stood up against Russian invasion, why didn’t they speak up against their NATO provocation? As a US diplomat once said.. it is fatal to be a friend of US. 2out of 3 businesses of Germany are in trouble.

@AO-ow6tt Месяц назад

No, in reality the EU are not free to choose whatever they want from China a they are simply vassal countries dominated by the US empire.

@manlede Месяц назад

Así es, a la Argentina les hicieron comprar unos aviones f16 daneses viejos, porque los argentinos pensaban comprar aviones caza rusos o chinos, ahora poseen unos aviones f16 que tienen el boton de encendido en Londres😅😅😂.🇦🇷😅

@orange25i Месяц назад

Uh. You do know that the EU and the US are business rivals in a lot of fields - think Airbus vs Boeing for example, or the German Leopard tanks vs the Abrams, or French vs Californian wine. So - no, no one is "telling" anybody what to do. That's just either some backwater hillbilly believing in US superiority, or some (more or less hidden) propaganda by autocratic states (pick your own choice here), who want to paint the world black and white, as if it was dominated by the US, against which only the autocratic states must struggle. A pluralistiv view, where everyone has their own agency would obviously hinder this black and white view.

@stopfartingplease Месяц назад

@@manledeChinese Fighter Jet like JF-17 isn’t good tho, less capable and Argentina invaded the Falklands so yeah.. less options

@user-el7dr2kd5v 4 месяца назад

Nice work

@sjokomelk 4 месяца назад

The CRRC guy at 14:53 is working hard.. At sleeping over the table. 🤣🤣

@SlosII 4 месяца назад

he's got his ears pressed hard against the table, checking the soundproofing....

@sjokomelk 4 месяца назад

@@SlosII Or checking if he can make the air compressor even louder 😝😂

@irregular_force2602 4 месяца назад

This is so Chinese.. love it

@hongsienkwee537 4 месяца назад

He is testing if he can sleep with the sound in the car....jokes aside, I worked with mainland chinese before in the 1990 till 2000's and if they work overseas they really work and live on their worksite cause they don't have family where they work! I did the same working on holidays and weekends and on new year and christmas when I was working in Singapore but took time off too. Don't know about the current younger generation.....

@hdvoice 3 месяца назад

@@irregular_force2602This comment is so racist…..love it 😅

@johnlang4198 4 месяца назад

The finishing/soundproofing needs to be fixed, but otherwise a decent unit. CRRC made the HCMT EMUs to serve the new Metro Tunnel in Melbourne, Australia and its associated lines to Sunbury, Cranbourne and Pakenham East. Whilst the seats on those units are comfortable enough for a suburban train, the ratio of standing to seating is a massive problem. Pakenham East to the city is 60km and takes 80 minutes, Cranbourne 45 km taking an hour, and Sunbury 38km taking about 45 minutes. All three are extremely busy lines, and the prospect of standing for up to an hour is unappealing to say the least, especially given the generally poor condition of Melbourne's tracks.

@Alex-pj8nz 4 месяца назад

Or the customer doesn’t want it fixed so the trains will be cheaper to buy and maintain.

@tweedy4sg 4 месяца назад

The seating configuration is usually defined by the end-customer, the Melbourne rail transit authority, i assume.. Take it up with them, not CRRC.

@lzh4950 Месяц назад

Singapore is also removing seats with its newer rolling stock & euphemistically says that it's making more space on the trains e.g. for more prams & wheelchairs, to be more inclusive. Some angled panels have been added on the trains' interior walls too for standing passengers to lean on & are also euphemistically called "perch seats"

@ianhomerpura8937 4 месяца назад

12:30 back before COVID I regularly stand on a bus to Manila for at least two hours. A one-hour trip on that thing would be a godsend tbh.

@user-xt3uv4tk3q 4 месяца назад

Nice video ❤

@thelovertunisia 3 месяца назад

we also have trains from China here in Tunisia, not bad for the price. Dont forget price matters.

@michaelkeller5008 4 месяца назад

that business-class- seating looks realy great tbh, also the "standing seats" are a cool concept (though not in inter-regio or eurocity-lines, but i guess in rural areas with travel-times less than 15min that's a great thing to do) as a former frequent user of the S-Bahn Zürich, i can assure you: Alstom, Stadler and Siemsns do make the same noise. Guess it's all about how much soundproofing was orderd. only one reason for me using my car now (next to poor service, overboarding prices and less reliability (you were on time to miss the connecting train in the last few years, a journey of 40min took you 1,5 hours, 30min by car. and the parkinglots became cheaper compared to the train-tickets. sry, got to be on time sometimes, dear SBB)

@teckmenglee8060 4 месяца назад

this is really nice layout. Good for travelling on business, allows work to be done whilst travelling

@timor64 4 месяца назад

5:16 - love the cable car in the background!

@shivamanand3686 4 месяца назад

Heyyy ...I have a question.... how can I get 3d mapping of cities ...same as this creator uses ?

@cliffwoodbury5319 4 месяца назад

That is very different but I do think it is cool to get such a different design as this one, the only thing my mind keeps telling me is that there are so many more passangers that could be in that car, so they are losing out on a lot of money. But if there are complaints on the line as a whole maybe a train like that is the answer.

@mdsaifulislamakash5663 4 месяца назад

Nice job❤❤❤

@Movie-factory2.0 4 месяца назад

Nice video 🎉🎉

@AltabKhan-gk9rn 4 месяца назад

Wonderful ❤❤

@xandysaid 4 месяца назад

Soundproofing has got to be one of the main, and most prevasive problems in CRRC units. For example the Metro do Porto new tramstyle units are very noisy, for trams they are rather squeak when under braking, specially from outside

@Lodai974 4 месяца назад

No, it's an Asian characteristic. The trains are moderately soundproofed because this makes the train heavier and makes it more expensive and more complicated to repair (wiring, all that...). Trains in Japan are noisy, very noisy, except the Shinkansen

@ianhomerpura8937 4 месяца назад

@@Lodai974 and now I understand why European trains are more expensive.

@Lodai974 4 месяца назад

@@ianhomerpura8937 This is one of the reasons the cost of labor in China has a lot to do with it. Because I know that trains in Japan, despite the simpler side, are very expensive to buy.

@gan247 4 месяца назад

Perhaps the customer was given the option for soundproofing at a cost but they decided against it to save money. In the end the manufacturer gets the blame for making something that the customer wants at the right price.

@pipiqiqi4010 4 месяца назад

@@gan247 yeah, you are right, different standard with different price.

@user-lz6my2yg5b 4 месяца назад

Great video

@user-ht2ut4wg1o 4 месяца назад

Nice video ❤❤❤

@DigitalX22 4 месяца назад

I am really impressed. What a nice station there. I live in Bangladesh. If we have this type of railway station

@derekwampum8861 4 месяца назад

I am really impressed that you were impressed by such a raggedy station. You really should visit my country to see what a modern railway station looks like.

@KaiHenningsen 4 месяца назад

I seem to recall Westbahn also bought from CRRC, and even saw one (in a video) in Westbahn colors doing testing.

@jahinasif4928 4 месяца назад

Good job bro

@phronsiekeys 4 месяца назад

Very interesting. Platform level boarding is good to see.

@AnatolyDyatolov 4 месяца назад

Nice video

@Google-Is-Idiot 3 месяца назад

I am Chinese and for 10 years I have taken the high-speed rail several days every month to a city 1,000 km away, but I have never had any problem with the noise, the high-speed rail in China is very quiet, both internal and external noise. BTW, great video, great view along the way.

@user-bm5tc4bb8v 2 месяца назад

说中国坏话，是流量。😂

@josephguo6256 2 месяца назад

@@user-bm5tc4bb8v 是台湾人香港人海外靠反华讨饭华人，知冇？

@Ranchmountain 2 месяца назад

慢慢的看出来的了西方人的心理防线。不再有公允的自信，开始显露出本性。让他们接受中国比自己强的多还是得慢慢来。

@laillosidgar 2 месяца назад

As Indonesian who recently taken CRRC cr350 or Whoosh as we Indonesian know it, it was quiet and buttery smooth. I hope it performance will last long, as the product got very good initial impression.

@mx338 4 месяца назад

Seems like a fine train, missing some touches to make it great though. They also made strangest decissions ordering the seating.

@user-ug6dz4ev5s 4 месяца назад

nice video ❤

@Thomas1980 4 месяца назад

Super fantastic good video! Thumbs up 👍

@lechen5540 4 месяца назад

Looks good. Hopefully I can try it in the future.

@ntznbgzt 26 дней назад

Need this for my country, compact, nicely designed, form follow function. For city commute is very decent.

@user-ke4dy9di4w 4 месяца назад

nice video ❤❤❤

@mikef888au1 3 месяца назад

CRRC is a top-tier trainset manufacturer. It's up to the customer to specify and commit to the level of comfort they want to pay for. What a great video. I've just returned from Seoul, and found their metro trains fantastic. In Australia, Sydney contracted a Spanish-built lite rail. The trainset suffered structural failures during acceptance testing, cracking down the center of the carriages. This was remedied by the manufacturers, and now Sydney has a wonderful lite rail through the city.

@cliffwoodbury5319 4 месяца назад

Leanback seating may not be that uncomfertable but it should have some padding on the back of the next lean seats. You'd think they would lean back at a greater angle.

@user-hj9fx3hg2x 4 месяца назад

Merci pour cette vidéo!

@BarekMia55 4 месяца назад

Great Video

@u1zha 4 месяца назад

11:35 very good table design, I'd say. There's some structural integrity to that support perhaps, unlike the typical table that flexes when I type on a laptop, because it hangs on a hinge thinner than my pinky finger.

@Porschedude8 4 месяца назад

Ultimately, CRRC is looking to expand markets. We've seen this in the automobile industry. To be considered an option would be goal achieved..

@PenskePC17 4 месяца назад

Their cars are #1 self combustion category. 😂

@Porschedude8 4 месяца назад

@@PenskePC17 Less waste on the planet can be used as a sales pitch too.. 🤭🤭

@lovelyheiferdev 4 месяца назад

yeesh, good luck.

@drdewott9154 4 месяца назад

Yeah we'll see how their newer Westbahn units handle before giving a bigger judgement. I hear trains running in South America and within mainland china built by CRRC are quite good, but I also hear that quality can vary a lot depending on which CRRC factory the train is built at. The best regarded facility is afaik CRRC Sifang, however both the Sirius and the Westbahn EMU's are built at CRRC Zhuzhou which is not as well regarded for quality.

@PenskePC17 4 месяца назад

@@drdewott9154 the high speed trains are just rebadged Bombardier and Hitachis, I'd imagine many of the regional trains are just copies, too.

@dragondescendant1 Месяц назад

We once took an overnight train ride from Shanghai to Beijing, the bed and the train ride was very comfortable. We also took an overnight Amtrak train ride here in the US, the reclining seat was very uncomfortable, the ride made a lot of noise, sometimes it felt and sounded like train was about to derail.

@centro8894 4 месяца назад

i had love it, pretty nice train

@DipendraNeupane36 4 месяца назад

सस्तो मुल्यमा उच्चस्तरीय गुणस्तरको रेल।❤❤❤🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳

@user-lf2pd4jt8m 4 месяца назад

nice video

@ZvonimirZelenika 4 месяца назад

Not first Chinese trains in operation in Europe - Macedonian Railways have been operating BOTH Chinese-built EMU (Class 411) and DMU (Class 711) trains since 2015-16 (You mention only DMU in video). And while they have been improvement over previous MŽ rolling stock (40-year old DMU units made in Yugoslavia/Croatia on Spanish MACOSA licence) there have been issues with them over time.

@altavelmcnamara 4 месяца назад

Well he is a well-known lier, his tripreports are very trashy.

@TransitExplained 4 месяца назад

I think he meant in the EU

@tibbers3755 4 месяца назад

@@altavelmcnamarano he isnt, and his reviews are pretty good

@geraldhenriksen3664 4 месяца назад

He did mention Macedonia had Chinese trains…

@klootzak347 4 месяца назад

Macedonian public transportation is a really really peculiar mess. Their capital city is also littered with cheap Chinese bootleg London Routemaster buses that looks... just weird. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yutong_City_Master Still wondering what is the whole purpose of frontal hood when the engine is literally at the back of the bus.

@MahmudulHasan-2014 4 месяца назад

Beautiful

@maxart3392 4 месяца назад

A few days ago there was a review of this train by another reviewer and I asked him whether the train is as noisy as it seems and he would reply that his microphone was exaggerating a bit. After this review I'm convinced that it actually IS noisy. Of course, airline style business seats are something to imitate (certainly not on regional service), but I think that in Norway they already did introduce something similar for the night trains, including lie-flat position of the seats. Those non-seats are of course a joke. They only take space of normal seats (a few less, but anyway). I noticed that you didn't review the "family" bench-like seats as yet another "class" on this train (probably because they were all busy). I hope these trains won't last long and I'm a bit worried about Westbahn and Austrian railways in general (like plans to ryanair the Railjet service - or to wizzair it, if you prefer a more central European verb).

@edisonz2006 4 месяца назад

"I hope these trains won't last long" 🤡

@digitaleswerken 4 месяца назад

In Austria the Klimaticket (yearly subscription for all public transportation including high speed) has been a huge success. But it's also giving ÖBB and Westbahn a huge advantage over any other competitors who won't be able to offer "free" traveling to Klimaticket owners.

@rap3208 3 месяца назад

Ask yourself, is the noise retardation feature in the specifications or not? All trains are not the same, even if they are the same model, some are luxurious with all the bells and whistles, and some have just the basics, IT IS ALL ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE WILLING TO PAY FOR.

@imwsss726 4 месяца назад

Would you cover the review of high speed services in Japan and China in the future? Honestly, regional commuter trains are not CRRC's area of expertise, although they are catching up. Similar seating configuration can be found on some of the latest CR400BF-Z series business class, 1-1 lie flat suite with doors.

@dt8101 4 месяца назад

He won't cover Chinese high speed rail, because it will crash the Frenchman's ego. LOL

@CZpersi 4 месяца назад

I see that Elbe was flooding on that day. As for the trains, when I remember the kind of fifty years old Eastern German scrap the Czech Railways used to send on this line, then everything is better, trust me!

@albe6253 4 месяца назад

Westbahn also has ordered new emu's from CRRC. Then it will be possible to check if this are company youth problems or will be the "signature". Gossips about the cancellation when the takeover of Renfe in Leo Express; this was some kind of protection to the two renfe's prrefered bidders: Caf and Talgo.

@tucuuk 4 месяца назад

Around that time Renfe ordered 280 trainsets from Alstom and Stadler plus 120 from CAF. The cancellation of the order is CRRC's failure.

@markashton6842 4 месяца назад

Work in progress, if they last 4 years we could compare them to the Transpennine Nova 2? in the U.K. I have never been on them myself but the whole fiasco is to be expected in the U.K. where if something works get rid and buy something that does not. As a commuter train maybe but for me, just like the Hitachi units, not for distance work.

@sgilani7294 25 дней назад

Amazing Train 🚊 Wonderful 👍

@islamictv3355 4 месяца назад

Nice helpfull 🎉🎉🎉

@Tom-Lahaye 4 месяца назад

It's not only the sound proofing which needs to be better, the rattling door is caused by vibrations which come from the wheels or bogies, seems dampers are not properly doing their work. Then the mechanism of the door itself needs to be better to get all play out, for instant spring loaded rollers or rubber silence blocks have to be fitted. I think it sits on plain rollers now and is able to move around in the recess where it slides in when it opens. It has its reasons why these are cheaper than Stadler or Siemens.

@ChinaSongsCollection 4 месяца назад

As I've been commenting elsewhere, I think there may be more to this story that you and I do not know. It sounds to me extremely strange that CRRC would go out of its way to specifically build a crappy train for Europe. There are 100s of thousands of trains in China, and NONE of them have the problem described in this video! I highly recommend you to go and check them out for yourself. Assuming those trains are ALSO created by CRRC, it seems very strange that this would happen. I think there HAS TO BE more to the story.

@rap3208 4 месяца назад

the vibration and noise comes from how good is the track, is it level? is it aligned and have good transitions? is it stable? etc. etc.

@Tom-Lahaye 4 месяца назад

@@rap3208 I travelled on this line in other trains and no issues with vibrations and noise, the track is well maintained. It's like a car, vibrations can arise on a smooth road surface when there are issues with the tyres, bearings , bushings or dampers.

@bltzcstrnx 20 дней назад

@@Tom-LahayeCRRC manufactures trains that run at 350 km/h on a daily basis. I'm pretty sure they know how to make proper bogies. For their slower trains, Singapore use a lot of them. They're one of the countries that have high-standards.

@OgaugeTrainsplusslotCars 4 месяца назад

Thanks for sharing Cheers from overseas the United States

@souvikkundu 14 дней назад

Amazing ❤

@RanaMahmud18 4 месяца назад

Good video

@michaelb4047 4 месяца назад

Actually an exciting multiple unit, but what I have already seen in the electric installations at CRRC makes me doubt its long-term usability. We see this well in the USA, where Siemens has simply given AMTRAK usable, reliable vehicles. In itself, however, the Leo is a nice train and I say that as a Siemens employee. In the end, CRRC lacks German expertise for the 100% at the end. We will see how well Regiojet likes the trains once they are 10 years old. Thank you for the exciting video

@cellperfecto406 4 месяца назад

To think that I'm 1.91 tall, I can't imagine how uncomfortable I would be in those seats (second and standing)...

@dragoner3211 4 месяца назад

I'm 1.98 tall, it's not that bad but probably because I'm used to uncomfortable seating on airplanes.

@youssef16844 4 месяца назад

Maybe you stop turning into a Super Saiyan before boarding the train, genius? /s

@Grahzzyvtvlog 4 месяца назад

They look like spirt airline 😂

@czechmatebro 4 месяца назад

I can confirm that it is very uncomfortable, I'm also 1.91m tall

@dragoner3211 4 месяца назад

@@Grahzzyvtvlog thats because they are

@hws888 3 месяца назад

Two amazing things. The the platform level is so low comparing to the train level -since many comments compare China I can roll out my luggage from he train to the platform w/o lifting. The other thing - total lack of signs in any language other than Czech. And why such a negative title?

@richard999 4 месяца назад

I am also a fan of Regiojet trains and the app. Have used this private operator on various trips on the Prague-Bratislava-Budapest route. By the way, I am a Brit with lots of links in Central Europe.

@QuarioQuario54321 4 месяца назад

4:19 I believe Kharkiv also ordered metro trains from CRRC but since the invasion that might have been cancelled or delayed

@in90transit 4 месяца назад

And the CRRC trams for Porto are already in service

@Bohdan_Medvedskyy 4 месяца назад

The funny thing is that in Ukraine it is possible to produce the metro, passenger trains with locomotives, buses, and trams. The problem will only be with control systems (control of an asynchronous traction motor) and they will have to be imported from countries that have already mastered this, for example Germany. However, our industry was deliberately destroyed. Because they didn’t want to buy domestic products (there were no funds for purchases). It’s easier to take out a loan and invest in the economies of developed countries of the European Union and Asia)

@QuarioQuario54321 4 месяца назад

@@Bohdan_Medvedskyy Who is the “they”?

@Bohdan_Medvedskyy 4 месяца назад

@@QuarioQuario54321 I'm sorry. Those who headed the management of railways and public transport.

@e.d.gproductions7989 4 месяца назад

I love that when european manufacturers make trains for asia, those trains feel very asian, and when asian manufacturers make trains for europe, those trains still feel very european

@guytruth5598 Месяц назад

Very beautiful

@jfmezei 4 месяца назад

I recently took a new VIA rail Siemens "Venture" (older Viaggios downgraded to US standards) train to Ottawa. I had the misfortune to be in the first car (cab car). They forgot to put the train horn on the outside of the car, so it is very loud at every rail crossing and there are many crossings. So hearing the bogie motors is likely much better. Another issue is whether the sound is mostly the wheels against tracks versus the actual motors. At one point in your video, it could have been just the wheels against rails. But at other points, obvious motors. CRRC likely underbid others to get contract and sound proofing llikely a victing of this. Were they built i Europe? assembled in Europe? or shipped fully finished from China? Whenever a manufacturer has to build a new plant to eet "made in rules, expect lots of defects and problems early on because of customizations to the model and inexperienced workers. Curious how much the interior is default CRRC, chosen by LEO, or Regiojet (depending on how finished they were at time Leo cancelled order).

@digitaleswerken 4 месяца назад

At the moment the units are shipped fully finished from China. But CRRC is working on a new maintenance facility in Vienna.

@Kuba1o 4 месяца назад

Great video! I also enjoyed the business class, although, as mentioned in your video, it was quite noisy. The seats in LC class were bad bc they were very hard and i also didnt like the table😂 However, the standing seats weren't too bad. On this route, where passengers travel between stations in roughly 10 minutes, it's manageable (but certainly not for longer trips). I recorded my video in Czech without subtitles but included some shots from the train driver's cabin. So, feel free to check it out if you're interested! 😊

@mdsaifulislamakash5663 4 месяца назад

Nice job❤❤❤❤

@TrainsInRomania 3 месяца назад

Except of some inconveniences you presented, the train looks nice! The ”seating” chairs are a very good idea!

@adamzampa9055 4 месяца назад

I love to journey by train nice video

@vrkoven 4 месяца назад

As it happens, I just today rode on a CRRC car, on the Boston subway. The MBTA had quite an ordeal with CRRC getting delivery, which was delayed time and again. Feature-wise, it's pretty reasonable but with some unfortunate design elements, like rock-hard seats that slip/n/slide la derrière. While you were happy with your business class seat, it seems to me, with the table hemming it in on the side, that if you carry a bit of excess avoirdupois it could be quite uncomfortable.

@gan247 4 месяца назад

I believe the specs of the interior design and seats were determined by the customer, not the manufacturer. The manufacturer might propose something to match the budget, but the end decision was up to the customer.

@Alex-pj8nz 4 месяца назад

Hard seats means it’s cheaper and easier to maintain.

@rap3208 3 месяца назад

@@Alex-pj8nz ...and a lot more sanitary. Cloth finishes breed bugs, ticks and once they're in there, will be hard to sanitize. Stains, dirt and other messes also will be easy to remove.

@rap3208 3 месяца назад

I'm sure they blamed the chinese manufacturer on the delay, really easy to do on someone halfway around the world unaware of what you are saying about them. Do you listen to politicians, they blame everything to China, really very convenient to do to cover up their ineptness.

@tomkk6502 4 месяца назад

在中国我们有一句话叫做“一分钱一分货”。中国的产品确实还有很多细节需要改善，我们自己也觉得很多产品质量不好，远远没有日本或者欧洲的产品那么好。但是确实价格便宜😂想要更好的产品自然更贵。据我所知。这家铁路公司是私营企业，他们要考虑到盈利的问题。选择中国的产品价格上肯定有优势，质量就一般般了。

@brian.z6592 4 месяца назад

It's funny that CRRC's trains in local Chinese market are very well made, with great stability under ultra-high speed and pretty good sound proofing.

@xinyiquan666 4 месяца назад

do not listen to this guy, only go there and experience, you know people try to get eyeball attracting, by just making up

@DR_1_1 3 месяца назад

@@xinyiquan666 Well the video let us hear some issues, when it comes to soundproofing...

@xinyiquan666 3 месяца назад

@@DR_1_1 what issue? you are not on the train, how could you hear anything?

@DR_1_1 3 месяца назад

@@xinyiquan666 The video comes with something called "sound"... in case you missed that point, some maintenance on your computer (or hears) might be in order! ...and it's not pretty at some points!

@xinyiquan666 3 месяца назад

@@DR_1_1 that means either you have hearing issue or your computer do not have maintenance, or u do not have any schooling, so go find one

@jfmezei 4 месяца назад

From Wikipedia on Leo Express: "However, in April 2022, reports emerged that Leo Express had cancelled its contract with CRRC, after undergoing two years of testing but failing to achieve certification based on European TSI regulations to allow operation" I have to assume CRRC spent 2022 and 2023 fixing the train to get certification or managed to get a Czech-only permit to operate for those 4 months and those trains would never leave country. Inability to deliver a train that meets EU standards is not good image for CRRC. Note: Nippo Sharyo had gotten big order for Amtrak divisions in California and Midwest and was unable to downgrade its trains to FRA standards so at last minute, Siemens came in with offer to sell some of its Charget (diesel) locos and the Venture cars which it had already downgraded to US standards for Brightline. Despite this, these took a very long time to get working properly.

@Jenci 4 месяца назад

Out of the curious, what was a downgrade for FRA and US standards?

@jfmezei 4 месяца назад

Until 2018, the FRA was still stuck with 1950s technology/standards (mostly to help Budd win contracts). This is why the current Acella are heavy steel, with individual bogies. After Amtrak placed order for the new Avells, the FRA relented and allowed aluminium shells, jacobs bogies for trains that don't meet freight. The Viaggios were converted to venture well before that. The other aspect is that of "Made in America" and this measn all the tested components of the original model are replaced with american-made compionenst from new suplier and for which the train was not designed. So the end result is a totally new train that needs new testing, debiugging and of course certification. @@Jenci

@jfmezei 4 месяца назад

Another example: Amtrak Cascades. They got an exemption from FRA to get mdoern Talgo trains (aliminium shells, jacobs bogies etc). But when time came to place a second order, they required it be made in America and made of steel. After the derailment, politicians intervened and Amtrak forced to retire the modern Talgos (which performed well in derailment to maintain shape etc) but allowed to keep the few heavy steel ones they had because "made in america". The heavy steel demand has proven ineffective due to the numebr of Amfleet derailments where an Amfleet car found itself wrapped around a telephone pole. This steel requiremenet is more than likely to support US steel industy. There is currently similar process for Brightline West which is meant to be true high speed but won't be if FRA gets involved. Politicians want to impose ancient US signaling from WABTEC which can't support high speed instead of allowing world standard ETCS systems @@Jenci

@Jenci 4 месяца назад

@@jfmezei Oh, thanks for the answer. It is interesting, as if they wanted a home-made train's material instead of an imported train material, similar to an 25-year import ban on automotive vehicles. Pretty sucks to hear that US poor and outdated standards.

@jfmezei 4 месяца назад

US standards are done for extremely long and heavy freight trains, not for passenger trains and they expect passenge trains to survive collision with such a freight train. But there is a lot of protectionism to protect US firms, but those firms cater to ancient tech freight market and don't supply modern stuff. @@Jenci

@DR_1_1 3 месяца назад

That station looks bigger than the town itself!

@dariomendoza191 3 месяца назад

the Train is modern and KOOL looking !!along with SERBIA!! greetings from M

@lpdude2005 4 месяца назад

We have 150 Stadtler Flirt train sets in Norway. They don't make as much noise, have a much better and larger toilet and have proper chairs and legroom. That was quite uncomfortable to watch. We have now ordered 56 new Alstrom local trains with an option for a total of 200. They are even quieter and have good chairs and plenty of space for most things.

@jmsmilfajt 4 месяца назад

Yeah this train is quite terrible but what is the context of your comment? This is just a test train run by a private operator Regiojet. ČD (Czech national operator) ordered many trains from Siemens branded as Interjet/Comfortjet so we will probably have even nicer long-distance trains than Norway in a year or two.

@AAA839 4 месяца назад

Stadler made good train.

@shuli6021 4 месяца назад

mostly it is because of the rail not the train itself. China produced the best rail and train in the world. many foreigner made the coin test on the high speed train running in 350kmh and the coin stands. try it in your country and see...

@DescendantofYellowEmperor 4 месяца назад

😂 if your country is rich enough, we can upgrade your crap railways in to standard Chinese high speed railway system which enable you to stand coins on a train travelling at the speed of 350-400km/h.

@lpdude2005 4 месяца назад

@@DescendantofYellowEmperor I love China's way of building - something is simple and not so high quality - but you can do that too. Nothing would please me more if we could get a few thousand to build out the railway in Norway. Money is not the problem in Norway - we are the only country in the world to have 10 state budgets in liquid funds. China has built some great bridges in Norway and they are absolutely amazing. The problem here is people. We have jobs soo we need more people.

@bmolitor615 4 месяца назад

I'm trying to picture how this turn-around is different from the Y track at Tampa [where the Amtrak simply backs into the station] such that this train benefits significantly from being double-ended...

@KeyaMoni-dj8tu 4 месяца назад

Wonderful

@SuhanKhan-tv7xn 4 месяца назад

Nice bideo

@youssef16844 4 месяца назад

13:45 Wow, you even get a free Dubstep show! The Chinese sure know how to spoil their customers.

@chefchaudard3580 4 месяца назад

Standing seats when Business is a 1+1 configuration? what are they thinking about? Like many chinese made products, there are cheaper... for a reason.