Who is we? Here is why K Series are not superior. I rather Swap LS engine or Rb26, 2jZ k series are good but it's 4 cylinders and Front wheel crap drive comparing to ls v8 or v6 2jz Or RB26DETT Nissan RB28 is more superior and Reliable even with turbos bc no.matter what u do The K Series engines with Turbos wont passed 100 thousand miles without major Problems or Major Maintenance
Would love to see a K-swapped RX-8. The series 2 (09-11) used the same trans as an S2000, so I assume shouldn't be too hard to fit up, and the 13B-MSP's power and torque curves are near identical to an S2000 and so gearing etc for a K-swap should be pretty good to go, right outta the box. To be making 250-300 NA high-revving whp with a small engine that maintains the balance of such a good car that is so avoided because of the rotary engine in it, would be an amazing project. Not to mention, an incredibly affordable shell to start with!
@@Rxwaat I haven't seen any build threads/blogs/vlogs on a K-swapped RX-8, or at least one that shows the challenges faced and overcome and the job seen to completion. But if you are aware of any, PLEASE do provide a link as I'm VERY interested!
Me too!!! 100%! WTF is up with people?? I love the sound of all uncorked well tuned engines! I love and appreciate that different engines have different sounds. Just because I love the sound of an Alfa Busso V6 doesn’t mean I have to hate the sound of an in line four. It’s like saying brunettes are ugly just because you like blondes...ridiculous!
It's so dumb and misleading yeah a gutted civic with a straight piped k series and rattles is gonna suck but like a 8th gen SI with long tube headers and a 3inch exhaust sounds amazing and is deep with no rasp they use the worst examples
My man I have a stock 04 k24a2 block with a stock 04 stock k20a2 head in a 92 civic hatchback dx with a rsx type s 6 speed manual transmission rbc intake rdx injectors on e85 making almost 300hp
I want to build a k24 ND Miata. I'm just now starting college for mechanical engineering, so it will be quite a wait. I'm going to be careful and save my money.
LS3 makes 430 HP stock and could handle up to 800-1000 without making major modifications to the block, not sure why you would want a k series when it makes like 200 stock and probably blows up at 500 bhp.
I really want to build a very early base model E46 Coupe with a K24 as a fast road/track car. With a GT3 Vibe. Slightly stripped, buckets, half cage, no AC, no power anything.
I can't get the idea of a 4wd k24 morris 1100 or Austin America out of my head, an 830kg? chassis with a 150kg engine and box standard, no one knows them or modifies them so it would make an ultimate sleeper.. where to route the exhaust though. 🤔
The 1996 Lotus Elise will be 25 years old next year. You can import 25 year old cars and get around all emissions and crash protection laws since 25 year old cars can be registered as classic/collector cars. They have a curb weight of about 1,600 lbs. Would be an absolute rocket with a turbo K24.
You’re right, I was never into Honda’s but this K series has me swooning over it. The HP/L factor is incredible. Not many cars make that kind of power N/A. N/A performance is exacerbated when boosted, not sure Honda intended all of this but I believe the K series is going to be the best all around 4cyl for years to come.
Plur307 nothing new from Honda, check out Formula 1 and Indy Car if you want V8 or V12 Honda engines. Only street car even close to having a Honda V8 was a Mugen concept car (rwd accord with 4.0 V8 something like 500hp)
You should see the shit storm when someone post a k swap mr2 on one of our groups. I personally love the k swap but most mr2 owners hate them for some reason.
The reason for the success of both the LS and the K is that neither is exotic, they are cheap and readily available with variants having been used to power all sorts of bland utilitarian vehicles, as well as more exotic stuff. Not really something you can say about the 1/2JZ, RB26, etc. which were also made in small numbers by comparison.
One thing I’d like to see is a 1970’s, 1980’s, or 1990’s Front engine Porsche with a Kswap. Maybe the Porsche 944 could be a good candidate. I don’t think that K swap would fit quite as well in a Cayman or 911.
An early 924 would be nice with the low weight, and better looks :) , but I think the height will be a big issue, or at least a really big bulge in the bonnet. The engine compartments is fairly wide but very low.
The latest swap kit for the 924/944 cars is the 5cyl 2.5l 07k engine from VW/Audi which is basically half of the Audi R8 V10. I'm doing a turbo 07k swap to my rally 944 and cant wait to race with it.
@@dougschack9341 makes it very problematic. Either you find an amazing turbo transaxle, rebuild one, or scrap the old system and build a traditional RWD setup, which is also very problematic because those cars don't have transmission tunnels in the front, race car only if you do this.
A first generation lotus elise is a much better K swap platform than the smart car. It weighs about the same as a smart car but is a much better chassis.
@@Plur307 the S1 is one of my all time favorites. I remember in the early 2000's people were importing them "legally" and putting B series motors in them. Then they found out they still weren't legal. That was my dream car back then.
@@leftocastpunx83 Cars can be imported and street legal if they are 25 years old. They can be registered as a classic/collector car and all emissions and crash safety requirements are ignored. So in 2021 a 1996 Elise S1 can be imported and driven legally on the streets of USA.
@@maxzimmermann6605 it fits under the hood. It fits in an E30 as well. A E36 Sedan would be the best option since they have more chassis rigidity than Coupes and they are usually also cheaper
If you want a good sounding K series, you really have to keep the exhaust buzz under control with proper resonators and mufflers, and let the induction provide the soundtrack. The intake noise on the K series is great, and you can still make great power with a quieter high flow muffler setup.
Unless you're really brand specific, the only swaps worth doing for NA builds in the US are K20/24, VQ35DE/HR, or any LS. It just depends on your power/torque needs and desired engine characteristics (redline, sound, power delivery, weight, ect). Any of the three would make great track motors with a ton of aftermarket support.
@@Adam-zi5se How is the HR a turd? With easy bolt on mods you would need for any engine swap, they'll be 375HP/300Tq which would be amazing in a 240Z, 240SX, Miata, ect. Plus, you can rev them to 8K if that's what you're into. You also have the CD009 attached to it. A stock LS1 would do the same numbers but rev completely differently.
I don't really understand power vs displacement. Unless you are getting taxed heavily by your government for the size of your engine. Which I wouldn't think would be an issue with a swapped car. To me the only number that matters is power vs weight of the engine and where the engine carries most of that weight. This is what makes the LS nearly unbeatable.
I just gained a whole lot more respect for your guys. You called it as it is. No "fanboy-ism" and no "hate". Just straight observations and facts. Great video. I'll be sure to share it 20 times. Oh, PLEASE K swap a Ferrari.
Am I the only person who finds it weird to call the k20/k24/4g63 "k two zero, k two four, four g six three" as opposed to "k twenty ,k twenty-four, four g sixty-three"?
I love the k..and b series i love all honda engines with thst in mind..i have a kswaped dc2 integra street/circut car..my wife drives a non vtec accord as a daily and my work car daily hack is a dc2 sedan non vtec my work van is a honda oddesy vtec gots to love that vtec throty sound pulling up to my jobs lmao.. love em all.
You forgot to go over the fact that if you have a k24 block and a k20 head with a rsx type s k 20 oil pump.. you can have the low end torque, and the high end power all together.. mine made 273 with drag cartel 3.2 cams and Wiseco 11:1 compression..
No, its not. Because a K series wont hold the power a 250-500$ LS block/walls/rods/crank will. But, If I were to swap a Honda anything, Id do it "different" with an old SOHC.
I would love to see you guys build a Factory Five 818 with a k24 and type S trans. Looked at a lot of pictures, I think with minimal cutting of the chassis you could get it to sit in there transverse... If I didn't already have 5 projects going I would probably be ordering a kit to this myself.
They missed the part where you can get the power of the k24 but high revving of the k20s with a type s oil pump. But yea the aftermarket support for the k series are crazy. The best 4 cylinder swap for sure.
I don't think such an underpowered engine is the new ls! if is swap on a civic hatch that weights less than 2k pounds then yes but on a full weight car.. oh dear me!
Literally the only gripe I have with the K series is the sound, they just sound sooo...... honda. All 4cyl Honda engines have that unmistakable Honda bee buzzing sound that just doesn't sound very good (F20/22 sound a little better). Seems like the only people who like the sound are honda fans. Is there actually a way to make them sound good? Cam swap, UEL headers or something? Besides that though I agree they are killer little engines and are a great choice. Edit: I totally wrote this before you guys even mentioned it in the video.
I've swapped an H23 into a Ferrari 308. Biggest issue is the half shafts. They end up super short and wear out quickly. The hubs are way inboard on the 308. We also had to remake the upper control arms. The motor hit the arms forward mounts stock and the driveshafts didn't line up. I made billet upper arms that moved the upper forward mount back about 2". One good thing about the swap is it dropped about 300lbs!
Why do you say miata like that, like "Meyeddas" Will u please make a 5 minute long video where you only talk about miatas and say it as much as possible?
Say what you will about Honda, they had some awesome engineering going into their engines for a while there. I'm always gonna be a straight six guy myself, love that noise and the overall feel, but if I need a 4 cyl a K series is a good option.
Honda been legendary just some folk with egos talk their talk but any real car guy or gal knows the Craftmanship of Honda.. yeah yeah daily driver and all the talk but as they said in the video about the engines is absolute. These days its about one million horse power forgetting the weight to HP ratio etc... Honda light weight and fast. Flipping old accord was making 276 or 278 stock I mean come on these new ones 252 or 260 with a tune making 300+... Anyhow your right buddy for a 4 cyl it is the way, many I've seen blew out mustangs and all the muscle car cars... LOL!!!
K swap is no where near as dependable as the ls and the k series don't have no low rpm torque like the ls ..not saying the k20 won't make power but you have to beat the snot outta them vs the ls where power is everywhere
I bought a second hand k20a2 and am putting it into a Toyota MRS. I cannot stress enough about that timeing chain tensioner. Luckily I checked mine and it was broken on a bone stock motor of less than 100k miles. For the sake of a tiny cost save yourself the headache and replace the chain and tentioner with new oem honda ones. Oh and the k20z upper chain guide fits on the older k20a motors and is much bigger. That combined with the aftermarket lower chain guide will make the timeing almost impossible to skip even if the tentioner does break. Lastly if you are pushing big power then buy an aftermarket crank gear with a full keyway cut in it as on the stock one the small timeing pin has been known to break. But yeah thanks for another great video and I look forward to more of your k shenanigans in the future.
I used to be huge on the k series (I am midway thru a k20 turbo swap in my lotus 7) but think an LS would have been cheaper. Just the number of v8 parts that are out there has driven the prices down in many areas. I paid $1k for the engine but then you add adapters, ecu’s,harnesses etc and it’s almost a $8-10k swap. That said- the manual v8 transmission is rarely a cheap option
Man, I'm shocked at how shitty CoronaChan has made even RU-vid vids. Honestly, seeing you guys back in the same room distinctly elevates the joy I get from watching. Thanks, and I hope you're well. I have a cheap-ish pet project resto-mod ideal for a K-swap... 1974 MG MGB GT. Light, sporting, a considerable aftermarket available... I can dream.
How difficult would it likely be to put a K Series engine and manual transmission until a 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite. It currently has a 2.0 Pinto engine in it but I blew a valve/cam/piston so I'm trying to figure out if I should fix that or swap to something like this.
Hear me out.... ek hatch, mid mounted k with B series awd gearbox(backwards), driving a flipped r200 in the front. I've wanted to do this forever but don't have the resources . Also not sure how the B would like being driven backwards, but I'd imagine it should work 🙂
I did talk about the K-Swift and a few other K swapped cars we've tried but the video was running too long so we cut a few of them out of the final edit.
power to displacement is irrelevant. power to weight and power to physical size is what's important. looks like the K motor can have better weight distribution for FR cars vs. the LS, and it might be easier to package too in some cars. The LS might be cheaper and more abundant in some instances, also not sure if Honda offers K20/24 crate motors.
How dare you speak such things within earshot of BEAMSy. She has feelings, you know. I would love to see a K-swap FD. All of the character with none of the heat or reliability issues. I'm sure someone has done it. Too lazy to look.
k20 2.0L @ 275 lbs - and makes 139 lb-ft @ 4600 rpm and 156 HP @ 6300 rpm LS6 5.7L @ 460 lbs - and makes 390 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm and 385 HP @ 6,000 rpm K20 has a wider range between peak torque and HP LS makes more torque per pound & equal torque per liter.
Love these sit and talks. Let's us really pick you guys minds and see where you guys are really at, mindset wise, doing these projects. Do more and plus, you guys are almost dead ass serious on these talks lol but k series are the absolute best from a previous 08 civic si owner they are a quick motor.
Re-watching this and I really miss your 240. It's such a good looking backdrop car for videos like this. But I get it, too many builds to keep them all.
I’ve owned 2 8th gen Si’s and it’s been my absolute favorite car to drive. Their raw power and sound always gives me the fizz. With the right mods, they sound amazing (invidia header/Q300 exhaust, any good intake) and with a good suspension setup they absolutely dominate in autocross. Glad you guys made this video
I took my "adrenaline junky" friend in a ride in my gutted k20 integra, and he said every gear feels like a slingshot, this could be attributed to the older 60a hasport mounts, but yea, every gear feels like a "slingshot" is very accurate.
Can you guys make a video about the 3S from Toyota? I’m interested in swapping my FA20 in my 86 and I’d love to hear you talk about the engine more in-depth
