IS THE KORG PROLOGUE EVEN WORTH IT? Prologue vs Prophet Rev2 vs Minilogue XD vs DeepMind 12 and more 

Thanks for thinking out loud and giving me some sense of clarity with the dilemma plaguing me for weeks. Very insightful, articulate, and appreciated.

Came to this video to help me decide between a Rev2 and a Prologue, but got so much more from this video. Your detailed explanations and how you decide on which synth is for you helped a lot. Also that Xenomorph canvas is incredible 👌🏾 I'll subscribe for that alone.

Thanks for your time investigating these synths. So helpful. I am looking for a go to analog synth, and had been considering the prologue, but now will consider the Beringer. Again, thank you.

Great video sir. I just bought a Minilogue XD for a lot of the same reasons to bridge the gap between my crazy software synth library. Wish it had 8+ voices though. Although I could pick up a module version as well for 8 voices all day for less $ than the Prologue. What we need is a Prologue 16 XD with 3 LFOs, dedicated sub-osc/noise, 64-step sequencer, and more filter options!

Great Video - just saw it now and need to completely review my decision for my new analog synth. Just needed to subscribe because of this cool comparisons. Thanks :o)

Great video. Korg Prologue is an underrated synth with a few handicaps but a hell of a lot of sonic potential. For the $$, it's hard to find something in that price range that can produce the magic it can unleash. You mentioned the drifting voices and I agree its a big plus.

Nice video. Liked how you dragged other synths into the mix for comparison.

Deep mind 12 is so underrated it's one of the best synths on the market especially for that price point but the Behringer stigma holds it back but I think overtime people will realise how much of a classic it is

Great video! Thanks for your analysis. Any thoughts on the nymphes as a six voice analog on a budget?

Good explanation. I think the big takeaway that people need to really consider when watching overviews or comparisons is keeping in mind what they’re looking for a synth to do and how it fits in with the rest of their hardware and software. And it makes sense if you want a poly with VCOs that plays nice with Omnisphere. If someone doesn’t already have the $500 software synth then yeah, maybe something like a Rev 2 makes more sense on the sound design side. Or Hydrasynth. Or even a Peak. Now that they’ve added user wave tables it’s super flexible if you don’t already have a software system that covers the same ground. Assuming someone actually cares about the sound design side. Good job on keeping this in context of fitting in with the other tools you want this to work with. Most important is that an instrument inspires someone to play. So if you have something that sounds good that you can just mess around with away from the computer, which also adds a good tactile interface on the software side, that’s pretty handy. I find software synths super handy but often incredibly boring to work with without the right interface so I get way more use out of some mono synths that are less capable but just more fun to use.

This is a remarkable analog synth comparison /review. The absolute best I've seen. Thank you.

Excellent comparison video! I have a (noob) question: I thought I heard you describe the Mini XD as a 4 oscillator synth. Are you adding 3rd party dual oscillators available for the multi-engine to the 2 existing analogue VCOs to get 4? I've had an XD for 2 years now and I still have a ton to explore with the default 3. Thanks!

Awsome video, touched on everything perfectly!

I picked up the Rev 2 16 voice as soon as they rebranded back to Sequential. The 32X mod matrix is no joke, and the sequencers are super powerful too. Absolutely one of the most flexible non-modular synths under $2,500.

Very nice video!!! I have prologue 8 and im little bit confused in sythetizers at all. Im a begginer in it. I just want to ask you, If its possible to delete some of preset sounds. I dont like all of them and I wish i could clear it. Thank you🌱

I notice you made a comment regarding static or something while using the triangle waveform on the VCO. I noticed this on mine as well. What do you make of it?

Hai Vulture, can you telle me if teh The ASM Hydrasynth also makes dirty analog sounds. The vids i found are all kinda clean.

I can't decide between getting the Minilogue XD and Bass Station II (possibly both) or only getting a Hydrasynth or maybe the DeepMind 12. I'm still fairly new to synths. Purchased the Roland Gaia a little while ago Thoughts or suggestions on these synths?? Two smaller synths XD and BS II or the bigger more complete Hydra or DM 12? For reference, I do mostly my own music creation and some classic rock. Typically for home studio and coffee house smaller gigs.

Can you tell what hardware synth or plugins was used for the insane saw bass in the track ZHU lost it?

The preset sequenzes from the minilogue sounds just amazing. I think there are a lot to start a nice track and make the lead sound and other things on a second synth with 8 or 12 voices.

Interesting review with a clear point of view, thanks. About the Moog One (<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1320">22:00</a>), there are also people who buy a Ferrari and have it serviced every half a year. It’s a known selling fact that the suffering creates more attachment if you spent huge $$$ 😉… and I find the car comparison not that wacky, more cylinder/ hp = more oscillators. But then if you compare that one oscillator of an original Oberheim SEM (or even the nice SSM oscillators from the Polysix) to the modern ones, you understand that it needs 16 today to achieve the same blast.

hello! I'm a bass player and I'm about to buy a Prologue. I want a synth to play Bass. I already have a Moog sub phatty, which I want to use both for live play, the Moog for 808 and the Prologue for Sub Synth Bass. It makes sense?

I sent this to my Mrs so she can hear what I’m thinking about out loud 😂 thank you

This young man gets it. He's got what it takes to produce and narrate videos. He's right on about the Prologue.

so if i dont have omnisphere and have no intention of buying it which one of these is the best choice? i want to sound design but also like the sound that the minilogue XD/PROLOGUE has

The Rev2 uses DCO's so that's probably why it sounds so different from the Prologue. But you can actually use the gate sequencer to recreate VCO behavior which has been a game changer with the base sounds you can make as a starting point!

Hey dude! Love your videos! Just wanted to mention though that the music behind you talking was a little distracting for me. Cant wait to see how this channel grows!

Hey bros , i would like to make music sounds like soviet post punk , molchat doma what should i buy ?

I'm honestly considering grabbing a Korg Modwave, I already have a Microfreak and a Microkorg (and some effect pedals), honestly wanting to expand my sound library as much as possible, and I don't mind going into the desktop or boutique world as long as Im able to use one of my synths to control it.. Does anyone have any suggestions in the $500 - $800 price range new or used ?

This was interesting. I really like the System-8. I got it and I love using it. Having the JX, Juno and Jupiter as well as System 8 motor is grand. I am curious about the Korg. But I don't know what to go for.

which synth do you think its worth and more reliable? the ju06a module or the deepmind 6? thanks for replying

Great comparison! I have the Hydrasynth, System8, Deepmind12, MinilogueXD and you are spot on with the comments. I'm happy as I just picked up a Prologue16 for £850! The question is will I still keep the MinilogueXD.

Just bought the minilogue xd...should I have gotten the prologue? I’m not highly experienced wit synths, would it not do me any good to have a powerful synth such as the prologue if I’m not highly experienced ? and maybe start off smaller with the xd? Or should I have just got the prologue and went for the bacon. And made it a point to learn. Money wasn’t a concern so I’m wondering if I made the right choice.

The only synth I own is an ms-20 mini, I would really like a polysynth but I'm not sure where I should begin. I'm looking for something with a beginner friendly interface that has enough features that I don't get the urge to upgrade down the line. Would you recommend the prologue given my situation? Currently the ms-20 mini and a Korg grandstage are my only keys.

Before I bought the Sonic Extensions I watched your videos and never regret it. I ordered couple days ago the Minilogue XD Module, it will arrive tomorrow. I think it will be great to control an amazing soft synth AND to make sounds with the hardware. After buying Push 3 and effect pedals I realised how much I hate to make music with the mouse. I feel like people don't appreciate the hardware integration thing enough, thank you for this nice video

Cool idea with the background music (which is self is pretty cool).

Very good review of the offerings in that market. Someone on a forum mentioned than appart from the reissue (and p6) , the Prologue is probably the closest thing to an original Prophet 5 in terms of features.

The value of simplicity is underrated. I had a Minilogue found that its limitations were the biggest feature. It was so easy to make something that just sounded great. It was very inspiring to play. While the Rev2 has more bells and whistles, who's to say that it has the right amount? You can always wish it had something more. And that's where software shines. So to me if you want to get deep go for software. If you want a great sound that is engaging to play, go for the Prologue.

I haven't tried the Rev2, but the Korg's keyboard feels like playing butter. I love it. And I've had a lot of synths. It's also a gorgeous synth.

great video! Lots of good infos!

I am eyeing Peak also with the intention of controlling VSTs. You might want to look at Electra One controller.

Omnisphere additionally requires a computer, a midi keyboard and an audio interface and lots of cabling and has no hardware interface so requires mapping to an external controller or using a mouse etc (and internet access). The cost of these soon stacks up. All the prologue needs is a mains cable and an amp

subbed! awesome video

Today got my new Behringer DeepMind 6 (bought it cause of size and a little bit lower price instead of 16). And yes, this is my first hardware analogue synthesizer, but I know the basics and can create some sounds. But, with DeepMind it's reeeally hard, I don't know why, but it has like too many options and I think I'll need about a month to learn just how to use it. I hope this was right choice and I can use DeepMind to do what I want. I've tried Minilogue XD in a shop and it was much easier to create a sound in some minutes, whereas DeepMind is really harder to get the thing you want from.

"Here's the thing about this bitch..." haha!

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Its fucking bonkers that just 3 years later that same 8 voice Rev2 is now $2499. That almost a 70% increase in cost in 3 years. W.T.F.

Nice comparison. Seem to be the only one on RU-vid comparing Prologue and Rev 2. I've spent 6 months researching and I still can't decide! Prophet's modulation and Fatar+AT, sequencer + 4pole vs 16 VCOs, better FX, LF comp and tone..

Why is there so much reverb on the narration and so loud music in the background. Sorry it is hard to follow the Video.

I feel you are still a bit fixated on the number of available LFOs although you said one LFO is enough for you. Why don't you just buy an outboard software/hardware lfo? I think all of those synths sound awesome. I love prologue's sound - You could maybe buy two Minilogue XDs and polychain them together?

I feel like if you have the money and space, the prologue 8 voice is a perfect synthesizer if you want something different that's not going to be your main synth although it could be if you want that dark, creamy sound. It's not exactly cheap but I've seen them go for about 850 used so for the price I feel like you actually get a very nice sounding keyboard. Not perfect by any means, but you can definitely get some great sounds and textures out of it.

Спасибо за видео! Вы мне помогли с выбором ❤

I wonder if you could modulate parameters of the Prologue 16 via MIDI from a DAW...

I got the Prologue8 new for $850 and it was worth every penny. I don't ever run into voice stealing and the timbre options are pretty accessible in the menus. It seems to be a popular synth for the Synthwave, Post-Punk, Post-Rock crowd.

Hey Alex, Have you ever checked out the Arturia Poly Brute? As I stated before, the only 2 synths that I really want over the select few I am keeping is the Korg Prologue and the Arturia Poly Brute. I would think it is worth the money over the rev2, the Novation Peak and even the OB-6. Then again I already have 2 Oberheims. The Matrix is up for sale right now as well as my Minimoog Voyager electric blue. After I get this all situated, maybe, just maybe I will get rid of my OB-XA and get the Behringer UB-XA because I do not agree with Tom Oberheim and his ripoff prices. If the UB-XA is as good as it sounded during beta testing, then I'll support Behringer a little more and have money left over for something else. So please let me know if or when you might find yourself checking out the Arturia Poly Brute. Thanks man! Great content. Well thought out, a lot of research and presented very well! I appreciate your channel!

Have a look at rev2 using the sequencer to do slight voice detuning, gives it real old school warmth without using slop. Also rev2 Keybed is on of the best. I have rev2 16 voice. Unbeatable unless you want Sem filter from ob-6, which is pure bliss.

I'm in the same position, Omnisphere user wanting to buy a hardware synth for control (hate the midi controllers with unlabeled knobs, improper layout, etc) and also to have my first irl synth for that use in itself. The main thing that stops me from getting the Prologue is the lack of aftertouch, which is a must for me and one thing I've been lacking in my current setup (been using a digital piano with weighted keys). So I'm thinking Rev2. I was thinking Summit for a while but I tried it out at a store and wasn't crazy about it. Has nothing to do with the digital oscillators though, early on I was wanting analog specifically but I've learned I don't care at all about that, and my dream synth is a Virus TI but $3000 for the keyboard version...will probably end up getting the $2000 module later, but for now I really need a synth-style large keybed with aftertouch. I suppose I could get an Arturia KeyLab but $500 is a lot to spend on a midi controller. The Rev2 seems to be the best option for me in price to quality and with a great keyboard. Deepmind is a great choice but is not for me layout-wise. I love the Prophet layout, probably because one of my early soft synths I spent a lot of time with was a Prophet 5 clone (memorymoon's Messiah). The Minilogue XD module is in definite consideration for a future purchase as well. Any thoughts?

I'm like fighting for my life right now between the prolouge and hydrasynth. You are right about the prolouge, its just oozes blade runner type tones, which is the dream. But the hydrasynth with that ribbon and polyphonic after touch. But is the hydrasynth just like a box wrapped around a vst? The Prologue actually is analog. Thanks man you make good points here. I will continue to battle for my life.

what about comparing the sound?

Rest In Peace, Vangelis (and Dave Smith). Thx for this. I'm picking up a prologue 8 for $800 CDN local tomorrow and so can skip the XD. Price too good to pass up. Would love the 16 by 8 may do. I'm so dumb for not knowing about these Omnisphere mappings. Thx for this too. I've already got some on the list so instantly useful. The Rev 2 is sill on the "to do" list. If that behringer pro-800 actually comes out this new year it will get further pushed back. And thumbs up on the Deepmind 12(D), best FX on any machine, like having a built-in and better, integrated, Zoom MS-70CDR. The System 1m I love, though unfortunately not all plug-outs available for it, including 106 and 60, and only 4 voice.

Great video! Great synth! Very unique sound...which is the entire point of having one. Every synth has pros and cons, that's what makes them unique. I don't need a complete modulation matrix on every synth. PS, know what other synth only has 1 LFO? The Jupiter 8...don't see people losing their sh*t about that.

I have the first minilogue, the XD which I bought because I thought it covered what the prologue could do in terms of sound quality and types, at least on paper the sound engines are virtually the same, and the XD appears more capable with motion sequencing. One day I had the chance to side by side compare both a prologue and moog one side by side in a quiet room. I was blown away by the Prologue. The sound is much more analog and inspiring than the moog. The Prologue is insanely alive, where the moog one has a high quality to it, its overall dull by comparison. That simple. For the price the moog is a loser. If I had I had infinite money and tIme to waste on it, sure I would have a moog-one besides my better synths. So after I was finished comparing the both, and already full-well knowing how the XD sounded since I bought that one months before the Prologue, I knew the Prologue had at least one fundamental difference that was obvious in it's VCO's compared to the XD. When you turn either of the frequency knobs on the Prologue versus the frequency knobs on the XD, it is like night and day in the way the pitch changes on the Prologue......its the blade runner "effect". You cannot get this on the XD no matter what you try. So it appears the Prologue is either sampling the knob position a lot faster and/or with finer resolution or there is a fundamental difference in the VCO's. I haven't dug any deeper into why this is, like look at the schematics of both, but I know other prologues I've played since buying mine respond the same way, and other XD's I've played since dont respond like that at all, and just like most of all the other synths do, the XD responds flatly, dulley with no life as you sweep the pitch up or down. Try doing this on a Prologue and you'll understand why this is the best sounding, best deal hands-down for the price for a "real" analog polysynth that uses full-on VCO's and has patch memory unlike so many of the Behringer except the deepmind. I have a deepmind too, and while I love it, it doesn't exceed or equal anything to the Prologue except some modulations routings and other minor but still useful features. I also have the Rev2 and prophet 10. The Rev2 has a great sound and can get somewhat close to that of a real vco if you program it correctly, and the synth is very inspiring. The prophet 10 is an equal to the Prologue in my opinion as far as the particular type of musical inspiration a real vco synth gives you, and actually so far I have been able to more easily create better, more inspiring, evocative textures / patches on the Prologue than the P10. I'm pretty sure my P10 has it in it to match up to that level, but just saying that for each hour I've spent so far on sound design using each synth, I've achieved much better results using my Prologue. Btw, for most sounds the XD is equal in that is matches up pretty much exactly to the Prologue. But overall, the Prologue is superior and for some sounds the XD will never match up to the Prologue. Prologue is defintely worth the money for theb16 voice version.

You have an excellent voice so you don’t need reverb on it for these videos

personally i own the rev2 16voice and like the fact that its multimbral. You can split and or layer patches on it wich means you have in fact 2, 8voice rev2’s if you own the 16voice one. Thats the smart marketing of the rev 2. When you layer the 8 voice you only have 4 voices per layer. Im not sure but i think the prologue does not have this function. What sold me on the rev2 tho is the modulation slots. Its possible to controle features with other features. And above that you have a audio modulation env. The way i see the rev 2 is like a analog version of massive or serum but with regular waveshapes.

I think you made the right decision. The Prologue sounds amazing and it's $1500 for 16 voices. People complain about lack of modulation options and features (e.g. just one lfo) etc but I think the macro oscillator mitigates that to a greater extent because you can get the waveforms you would typically aim for via a modulation matrix right at the start of the signal flow. You don't need a modulation matrix if you have a macro oscillator. Or rather, you need it less.

Only catch with deepmind is build quality. Its only been 3 month and now I have tons of noise and an extremely unpleasant high pitch (what sounds like a sine wave) sound coming through both headphones and L/R outputs.

One more question can you get the same modulation possibilities as you can with the Korg Prologue as far as with the Omnipshere integration goes with REV 2

Loving these Prologue videos, I feel like it doesnt get enough attention. I'm not an omnisphere user, but I've been looking into picking up a new polysynth recently. I got to play with a Prologue a little bit ago and really haven't been able to shake the idea of picking one up since. There really is something special in the Prologue.

After revisiting this video again. I recently bought a Rev2 as it was a borrow since my Jupiter X was being repaired. After just a few minuts of playing i was already won over by the Prophet but i did not wanted to part with the Jupiter X either so i decided to keep them both.. I also got some Roland Romplers and a Microkorg XL. But the Threesome of the D50, Jupiter X and Prophet Rev 2 is MAGNIFICENT!!

Regarding the Behringer Deepmind12, there is just shallow menu-diving - the menus are logic, intuitive and fast.

I've had a ton of synths to through my studio and my Prologue 8 is the only one I will never sell. I regret selling a few over the years and may get a couple back but I'll never sell the 8

Rev 2 over Prologue is probably bad advice if you want VCO sound. I bought a Rev 2 and sold it quick, it sounded like a Novation Peak, which is fine, but very digital. The difference between VCO and DCO was obvious, or maybe it was also due to the filter on the Rev 2. I ended up with an OB6 and couldn't be happier.

Prologue was my first hardware synth - it's a great machine and opened the floodgates of hardware for me. It's been on every single one of my songs since and I will never sell! One of the best tips for new Prologue users is to go pick up the filter pack from Dirtbox synth and all the free user FX from Hammondeggs. Having an extra highpass filter or VCA tremolo/autopan is a game changer for sound design.

The Korg 'Sounds like Blade Runner to me'... SOLD, SIR

Here's the thing,I own a system 8 and a dm12.I will never part with either.I see prologues and monologues and rev 2s and occasionally the odd dm12 on gumtree,but hardly ever s8s ,which is testament to how good the s8 really is.its a superb sounding synth.

If ya got the summit and hydra , you gotta look at the Modal Cobalt.

GREAT VIDEO BUT NOW I AM CONFUSED AGAIN WHAT TO BUY :( MY LIST FOR NOW NR1 ELEKTRON ALANLOG FOUR MKII PLUS EXTRA KORG MINILOGUE XD AND YES OMNISPHERE ALWAYS AND FOREVER STILL NO ARTURIA MATRIX BRUTE SETTINGS FOR OMNISPHERE :( SAD AGAIN

I'm on a budget and I'm between Korg Minilogue XD and Behringer Deepmind. I leaning towards the Deepmind at the moment.

Would be nice if Korg came out with an advanced Prologue Xd 16 voices with multiple filters and a sequencer

Deepmind is good, but it’s difficult to include it in the mix. I prefer the rev2 / ob6 / xd. They have pros and cons but easier in music composition.

you can code your own oscillators in prologue!!! that kicks ass

I love the sound of a prologue but do u think it would be hard to fit a rap vocal on something that sounds so wide and huge? Classic hip hop vocals not auto tuned over processed pop rap vocals btw.

Another channel Pink Buddha Academy told this about the Rev2 quote: I love the sound of the Rev2. Don't get me wrong. But I found it hard to integrate into a mix unless I STARTED with a Rev 2 sound. Because it's so hard to program, esp on the fly. I ended up getting to scroll through posts to find something close. To then change, and that's really time consuming. Also, many of the Rev2 sounds are SO thick, and rich, that they take up too much space in the mix of a song. Imho, it's really a synth that wants to be the showpiece - So due to some overlooked design flaws, like the small screen and that there are no very important volume control buttons/sliders mapped, to tweak the individual layer volume - he actually needed to sell it.. The Vulture Culture channel shows his reasons why he opted for the Korg Prologue, but then again I hear people say: If I could only get one - it would be the Summit, without a doubt. The REV2 is a close second. The Prologue isn’t even a consideration. I’d get a DM12 before a Prologue. I’d get a System 8 before a Prologue. I would get a Matriarch before a Prologue and it’s only 4 voice. Honestly, I’d keep my MicroFreak over a Prologue and I’m not just saying that. I’ll gladly take a look at the Prologue revision if it has a switchable filter, aftertouch, a real mod matrix and more LFO’s - So go Novation Summit I guess!? lol..

Just one question. Do you have Omnisphere? 😄 Jk. Great video. I love my prologue!! How closely do you think it can emulate a Juno or Jupiter?

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="265">4:25</a> actually you get 8 analog oscillators

hey man solid vid but I think the music is maybe a bit to loud while your talking

Dope Giger print!

I bought a korg prologue used for $800. Prophet rev2 8 voice is like $1800 used. Why does everyone compare these?

I came for the synths, but when I saw the awesome H.R Giger background I said "this man has taste", so I stayed and watched. Curiously, I am between Rev2 and Prologue for summer 2021 but although the Sound Designer in me wants to go for the Rev2, I must agree that I am towards Prologue because of that "Blade Runner" feeling and the overall sound of it. Spending money on equipment has to make sense, and for me a digital synth nowadays is not something I'd go for. Regardless, that's just my opinion. Thank you for the video. You won my subscription. Peace \m/

Now the Roland Juno x came out. Its digital but it sounds just damn amazing good and realy analog too.

fax i jus can’t connect to a plug-in unlike with an actual real life synth

It's a nice synth

You are so right. Fuck the keys, buy a cheap 61 keys midi controller and get the korg minilogue xd module and done. It's incredible what you get for that money.

Roland JD-XA?

The Prophet Rev2 Oscillators are DCVCOs they're analog VCOs but the knob twist is sending digital signal controlling the VCOs. If you said this and I missed it then cool... crack a brew for me too

I'm looking at the Prologue... but remember, the DSI P12 is 12 voice 4 oscillator... Hybrid, similar to the Summit...

Do you think the Korg Prologue sounds better than the Rev 2?

Hardware inspire me more to create. 🤑

Minilogue vs Deepmind 6: who wins?

this is semi digital - analog I think