Is the Pint’s Range Enough for Group Rides? 

Do you attend Onewheel Group Rides on the Pint? VNR or stock?

My VnR Pint peeps know what's up. I'm 230 and get 22 on my 5ah VnR. That, footpad, fender, sliders, and other stuff were well under the cost of an XR. Top speed of 25.4 mph to boot. Both great boards, but I'm all about that Pint life.

I believe it depends on the group ride. I've met guys that have a minimum requirement of an XR and range extender for the kind of trails that they like to hit. Again, awesome content Don. 👍

Very well done. You're a great creator. 🙏 By the way, it's worth noting that Future Motion will likely deny any service on a board they find has a battery modification done to it. They deem them unsafe and often will blacklist the serial number. So it's worth being aware that any extended range modification will eliminate the option of sending the board in to FM for service. Also, while there are repair shops that fix boards, the range of repair prices varies widely, and increasingly it's the case that independent repair of certain boards ends up costing more than it would if FM fixed it. This is sometimes due to scarcity of parts, since parts have to be salvaged from other boards, as well as just general market demand that shops and sellers know they can (and do exploit). It's gotten a bit...unfortunate, that the community has in large part turned repair into something even worse than what FM has created. And most of it revolves around the desire for battery modifications. I'll never put an extended battery into my boards. Now that I've built a board, and DIY parts are coming out this year, I'll continue to leave my boards as is and instead rebuild another one with a larger battery and more power. Anyway, cheers Don. Great video.

I would probably choose a quart battery over these options just cuz of the cleaner look

Awesome video as always. Well put together.. Your footage is so crisp. Makes lugging all that gear worth it.

Awesome video! Just ordered two Pints going to get an extra battery and see y'all on a group ride soon!

Great video followdon! Superb production quality and editing, and I really appreciate the great perspectives from Calile and Pearl that, with 2700 miles on a pint myself, are right on mark with how I feel - even as a STOCK pint rider. (Especially what calile says from 5:04 to the end of his segment, lol). I'd love to follow both of them on their socials as well if you could post them - pint riders need to support pint riders!

As someone who ran a VnR setup for about 3000km, I would go for a quartz/CB+. Its great because you can swap out batteries but you need to carry an extra battery and an extra charger for that battery if you run out.

I just got my XR and I'm sad that I no longer live in the DMV cause meeting up with you all would have been awesome. New Sub!

Stock Pint newbie here. Planning to do the VNR mod later on when I am closer to the end of my warranty and I am feeling confident my board is solid. I got the Pint because I figured the XR is old tech and will get upgraded/replaced first. If the new XR is AMAZING and I LOVE one wheeling I can get it and my GF can ride the Pint. Otherwise I'll just keep rocking the Pint with its carvy tire and punchy torque for $950 + VNR costs. One thing I like about the VNR is I can leave the external battery at home when I don't need the extra range. I ride solo so no need to keep up with anyone else on group rides. I just want to explore a bit farther than stock Pint range. I'll grab a fast charger soon. I figure that keeps my warranty in tact for now, while I wait to do the VNR and I can drink a coffee while I charge my Pint if I want to get out further afield. Great video. Keep 'em coming. :)

I haven't been joining the DMV group rides coz I saw mist people had XR. This gives me hope. Imma join you guys next time.

Lol Chris straight up teleporting at 4:50

I live in the DMV area and I've been considering getting a Pint. It's good to know there are groups who ride their onewheels together in this area.

Isaac is faced with this decision right now. He knows he wants more range for the group rides, though at 85lbs he's basically getting XR range anyway. I think his biggest anxiety is the speed deficit. A few mph cruising speed makes a noticable difference in keeping up with the group. He's not comfortable leaning into the pushback and falls toward the back of the group often

best pint video ever thank you so much

Cool video bro. Really good stuff in here. 💯🙏😎

Really cool and clean video! I loved it and look forward to more. I personally moved on from a VnR’d Pint to an XR and have since installed a CBXR mini. I think the XR is much more comfortable to ride overall- the pushback doesn’t kick in way too early, unlike the Pint, although I think it’s a valid argument that the XR is more dangerous because of this fact. For longer rides, I’ll definitely recommend a stock XR. I host weekly group rides across the Atlanta area and I’ve found that although the Pint is capable of keeping up with XRs, most Pint riders aren’t comfortable constantly riding through pushback just to do so. I prefer to, instead, make my group rides Pint friendly. I limit runs to six miles and stop off for a charge & a beer, and then continue. My main recommendation is a Hyper charger for both the XR and the Pint. Especially for the Pint. It definitely bums the group out to hang around for a Pint to charge up to full for two hours just to get six miles, so I’ve had to send the group off and hang behind for the Pint before. My second general group ride tip is to BE COMFORTABLE riding your board! Don’t show up to a group ride the day after you’ve bought your board! And most definitely, don’t be a hazard to other riders or pedestrians! If you haven’t gotten your Onewheel legs, don’t put others in danger. Wait until you’re safe before going out in public! If money is your main concern, go for the Pint with an aftermarket Hyper charger. You may not go as far on a charge, but it’s still worth it and you can still get back out there in 50 minutes! Subscribed!

This video is epic and should be on cnn or nbc or something. Appreciate you big bro!

Great Video as always. Pint is not even in my thoughts. I’m getting close to buying an XR. (Bigger guy, Size 14 shoe, just means to ride comfortable it’s got to be the XR) I’m just having FOMO anxiety. I feel like Future Motion has to be making something new for this year. Updated XR with shocks, longer battery, better battery tech (like increase battery efficiency through the app), bigger lights, etc. I feel like if they have something coming out it will be announced in April. With the Fed Package coming soon people will have a bit of money to spend.

@0:25 "People who love the Onewheel just like you". Proceeds to show the #1 lover.

Super proud of you! Congratulations!!! ❤️💙

I would love a video of talking about improvements Future Motion could make and what your group riding buddies would love to see in improved XR or Pint.

Subscribed! Sickage vid. I have a pint but I think XR is easier balancing and quicker speed on off road trails

Great job. I’m getting my pint x tomorrow. I hope. Can’t wait man. Any advice?

If you can afford an XR, don't even bother with a Pint. I upgraded to an XR and not only I get more range, speed, but also STABILITY. I fell on the Pint but never(fingers crossed) on the XR. The stability alone is worth it to get the XR. Who wants injuries?

I went on a group ride vnr pint with all other xr. It was able to keep up until I got to about 50% then pushback started earlier for me. I’m 235lbs tho.

Great vid! Subbed

I sold my pint for a euc (gotway msp) never had any regrets... You just get so much more for the same price..

I live just north of Baltimore and would love to travel down with my XR for a group ride. How do I figure out when the group rides are and where people are meeting? Love your video content btw!

i' working on a back-pac solar charger

Love it

Pint’s Range LINKS? THANKS!

I heard new firmware will not allow for external batteries or battery swaps is this true?

How is he able to go past the pushback speed limit?

Where can I buy the extra Battery?

Can we make this a state to state event ?

I've recently purchased a onewheel pint (March 2021) and was wondering if the firmware permits the use of VnR mods. I hear a couple people have bricked their boards because the firmware doesn't allow the mod from sonnywheels and I was disappointed and cancelled my order after I found out. Can anyone confirm or deny FM not allowing VnR?

Where can I get that battery, and will it work on the XR?

If you bought the pint for a quick last leg, or just want to ride for a short period and not looking to group ride or do anything but vanilla riding, then your not the people I'm talking about next. You bought it for what it was made for. Can't fault you for that. But for most of the owners your this guy. I saw a pint in the wild yesterday, we did the pleasantries. Then he asked what I was riding, then he goes into a monologue without me asking, why he bought the Pint over the XR Clearly he's had the question asked a lot and from the position that his choice was wrong. He said because he wasn't sure if he was going to like it and it was cheaper. Now I'm paraphrasing here but it's true "he regrets not finding his balls and committing by doing his homework yet spending a grand and finding out after was easier???" The way he described the problem it's like I imagine all the pint owners out there feel embarrassed and stupid for not just buying the XR in the first place. I could tell he has had that conversation over and over in his head and with other owners. And it's more apparent by the fact that he busted out in this monologue without me even asking and like MOST all other pint owners do regret having to spend 2x more on top of the $1,000 already spent. Again if your cheap or not rich, then why would you not buy the OW that can do everything in one buy vs ride a cheaper one that if you did any amount of homework before you spent a grand on a pint you could of had all your questions and fears answered by the community and watching videos. You would know it has less than half the range, it's slower, it can't go off road in uneven terrain. The battery drains ridiculously and you get battery (sag at only 3-4mi!) And when going off-road especially in grass. Less clearance so you CANT go everywhere, also if you didnt like OWXR they are crazy easy to resale. You can even make more selling the parts if it's very new. Less moding is available "do you see a lot of aftermarket frames for pints or half of the other cool shit XR's can take. Any pine owners don't give me any squawking, Pint owners riding in groups versus XR owners it's clear the proof is in the pudding. You can say all day that it doesn't have the above weaknesses but floating in the real world all those weaknesses come out glaringly obvious on group rides. Point is if your low income why would you buy the cheap version when you find out you like it but now have to spend 2x more totaling $3,000. When you could of just messaged someone that owns a one-wheel and go ride there's to see if it's worth getting instead of spending $1,000 on a half-ass version only to find out you made a mistake?🤨 So class, what is more expensive spending $3,000 for the lazy/I didn't do my homework way/ I could have figured out what I wanted by just meeting a Community member and riding there's like I did or could of Reddit the shit out of the one wheel group. Or just saving $800 more and getting the one that you can go group riding without having to be the dick that makes everyone wait on or asking people to not go off road areas. Or buying ridiculous heavy external mobile chargers to take with you. That cost enough to make just buying a XR in the first place worth it. It's like saying to your friends I bought the tricycle because I didn't want to spend my money on the BMX because I didn't know if I would like it. While all your other friends on a BMX bike are having the time of their lives. 🤨😒 Ok mom enjoy your trike... I mean seriously you're buying a one-wheel death machine but not sure if you will like it? Then your the type that should be buying the cheap Chinese knockoffs.

Unless you weigh less than 160, don’t buy a pint. You won’t be able to cruise at XR speeds without tons of pushback and risk of nosedive every 2 seconds. Basically GT over everything now.

3:50 doesn't get that you can do the same with the XR. Or be even smarter and not go cheap when you know your going to ride far and get a XR with a battery upgrade made for the OW that goes 38miles on one charge. Not to mention it won't destroy your battery over time like his does. Frankly who wants to destroy their battery while riding in all the safe places in a city ONLY. It's like hearing a guy talk made shit about his lambo being perfect but never took it out of his neighborhood. Never drove in a creek bed, or in a forest, or ride in a desert. Never had wild animal chase him or have to dodge security and pick up your OW and toss it in a ditch so you don't get caught at a golf course. Want to try that with a big ass battery hanging on the top of your one-wheel? An yes I have done all these things. Therefore he's never experienced any of the things that the other floaters have been doing on there's that his wouldn't be able to do since his can't. Basically a city slicker. 2nd do you really want to be doing tricks or rolling your OW or crashing with a heavy battery mounted to it and along with a weaker frame and clearance and the fail point be your plug? An quick disconnect won't always save you. What about water damage causing a short ever hear of rain, puddles, mud, random chance. How about going faster? How about going off road where your going to run into those problems more often? Do you really want to fuck up your charging port, the CPU, BMU, battery. Not to mention charging while riding destroys your internal battery SO much faster by increasing the amount of dendrites that grow from the excessive charging. So in the end your back where you started because you internal battery can't keep a charge. So that's a another $300-$400 to ship your OW back to FM for a new battery. But hey as long as it doesn't cost you more than a XR up front right. Oh right your not doing all those things because your on a pint. Nevermind I get it now. 🤭 He has problems coming SOON he just doesn't think he will be THAT guy. I've had people try to steal my one wheel, I've been hit by multiple cars on my one wheel. I've fallen off 2 foot cliffs at night because a sidewalk just stopped and started again 15ft away for no reason! With a bed of big Axe shaped rocks as the soft bead I was to fall into. I cracked a rip on that one, it later broke when I sneezed while adding some pepper while cooking for my family. I also kept riding that night an went to the tavern charged, eat and road home. No LYFT for me when I fall bad. I ride in, I dame well, will ride out under my own power. Crazy shit can happen at any moment it doesn't matter if you're a good person or a bad person riding in the city, riding out in the rural areas. Ah to be so horribly inexperienced and naive. This guy has no RL experience outside riding easy safe paths. You won't find this guy on the thrilling trails or rides. An you can tell by the way he leaves all that out. It shows he hasn't experienced it yet. It's not the mileage you travel in your safe space. It's how broad the experience you gain from going into the unknown. I mean fuck what about that epic black guy that has the crazy high mileage on his OW talking about all the water damage he's had to his board from hard riding and what's this? He got water damage from making modifications to his foot pad. I think water took his board out 2x! But this guy here talking about it's PERFECT but only in all the safe spaces of his inexperience. Props for ingenuity but he gets a failing grade for not thinking about tomorrow's consequences and added cost over what the XR would of cost. Seriously this guy needs to look up how batteries operate and how they die and/or catch fire and destroy your circuitry. BEFORE you mount a external battery not after you screw shit up. Also using a power source not tailored to your electronics causes micro problems within the circuitry over time and puts greater strain on your internal battery too. This is exactly why you upgrade your battery internally not externally. Not to mention asking yourself simple questions before you spend a lot of money on a device like "am I going to be riding far." That simple but smart question could of saved him. www.azom.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=14293 Seriously most of the mistakes and problems I've hear about one wheel riders comes down to not doing your homework before you leap. Though props for wearing a full face helmet.

Wish she'd take the mask off so I could understand her.

Trigger warning for people that like to cancel others for disagreeing or having their own opinions also saying mean things. The LEFT has turn Society into kindergarteners I fucking swear. Unless you already own a XR, then pints are the dumb option, less resilient to damage less options to repair yourself it's also designed to be less repairable. It can't go everywhere a XR can go due to it's build choices. You also can't keep up with the other riders. You're always going to be the guy that everyone wants to smile to your face but inside, in there head at the group rides they're thinking why didn't you spend a few hundred dollars more and get the f****** XR if you're going to follow us on a group ride? And I tried to ride with pints but stopping two times during the ride just for them to charge for over 2hr sitting. Is like going surfing with other people but you're asking to borrow all their equipment because you couldn't be bothered to commit and buy your own hardware so instead you bought defective/ physically Limited equipment because you didn't do your homework. It feels like a super dick move to come to a ride and expect everyone else to wait on you being a cheap date IE "hey guys we need to stop so I can charge again". It's like bringing a bicycle to a sportbike meeting and asking everyone to ride slower and don't go off road oh and I need to stop for gas again. Even though you know the group is going further than your board can take you. Not to mention I always see pints avoiding the grass because they don't want to eat up their battery. Or they can't make it through the pot holes in the grass. If how the board is made and designed makes you not want to go places that your OWXR can go, then that was a poor buying decision and it's clear you didn't do your homework or put much thought into it. If I was still riding my sport bikes, Pint owners would be classified as the half ass cheap weekend warriors. An I'm low income, but still could see all the smart choice is to save longer and get the XR or buy a used one cheaper.

Great vid! Subbed