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The Porsche 911 S/T is possibly the best driver's car of the modern era; it's a car that many, many automotive journalists are calling "best ever." But it's a full $100k (even more with markups) more than the GT3 Touring, to which it's closely related. Can you feel the difference between the two and does that justify the price point? Matt goes back to back in the new S/T and GT3 Touring to find out!
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@starkparker16
@starkparker16 4 месяца назад
It's a hard job, picking between top of the line Porsches, but somebody's got to do it.
@aleksandaraleksic4067
@aleksandaraleksic4067 4 месяца назад
🤣
@xruud24
@xruud24 Месяц назад
lol gt3 or gt3 rs is way to go
@josiahburndstkiar3774
@josiahburndstkiar3774 4 месяца назад
This is the comparison we all wanted. Still bummed they didn't change suspension in the Touring like they did in the previous gen. Oh well, can't afford either...
@papa_pt
@papa_pt 4 месяца назад
it's nonsensical to call it a touring but have suspension like that
@TheImperfectGuy
@TheImperfectGuy 4 месяца назад
it's a little speculation I keep making that the S/T was just a sneaky way to fund development am alternate type suspension in the 992.2 GT3 Touring much like the 991.1 911 R was the path to the 6 speed manual for 911 GT3 cars generations 991.2 onwards
@xGabicca
@xGabicca 4 месяца назад
Was there a change to the 991.2 Touring suspension vs. the GT3? I had no idea! any sources?
4 месяца назад
@@xGabicca No, there was no change in suspension in the 991.2 GT3 touring compared to the GT3 it was based on. This person is misinformed...
@JStryker7
@JStryker7 4 месяца назад
@@TheImperfectGuypossibly, but the 992.2 is going to have a digital dash which essentially ruins it imo
@stephenjohnson6492
@stephenjohnson6492 4 месяца назад
the $100k price difference is only because it is limited/collectible. Just like the 911 R, probably not "worth" the price difference but that won't stop us all from wanting one.
@MrZane-bl8qm
@MrZane-bl8qm 4 месяца назад
Well, no car is really worth over 100k, let alone being 100k more expensive just because it's limited. But it's what it is. They are still timeless beauties.
@EvoraGT430
@EvoraGT430 4 месяца назад
@@MrZane-bl8qm No Zonda/Koeniggseg/Bugatti is worth more than 100K?
@zeamethyst-M4Z
@zeamethyst-M4Z 4 месяца назад
Standard carbon buckets + standard PCCBs + standard mag wheels = $40k+ on top of a standard GT3. That doesn’t include the bespoke clutch and single mass flywheel, suspension tuning, etc. certainly shrinks that gap quite a bit
@horvathr95
@horvathr95 4 месяца назад
It might be 100k more expensive, but the actual cost of ownership is probably still the same. Just have to spend more money upfront
@Visakh_S_Nair
@Visakh_S_Nair 4 месяца назад
​@@MrZane-bl8qm Bro has no idea of Porsche fan base.
@branttmyhres74
@branttmyhres74 4 месяца назад
Thank you Porsche for still building a stick shift, seriously. Both incredible cars
@dj_laundry_list
@dj_laundry_list 4 месяца назад
They should have stuck with the 1100cc flat four as well
@iggswanna1248
@iggswanna1248 4 месяца назад
and manual windows
@zyoungson215
@zyoungson215 4 месяца назад
They really trolled 911r owners with that one
@BobbyDazzler888
@BobbyDazzler888 4 месяца назад
And steel rims
@farishanafiah8461
@farishanafiah8461 2 месяца назад
​@@zyoungson215Sometimes, marketing department cannot foresee the popularity for cars like the 911 R.
@Casey_J96
@Casey_J96 4 месяца назад
That really is the perfect spec GT3 Touring! Green over brown with yellow calipers, chefs kiss
@dlamb4prez
@dlamb4prez 4 месяца назад
Imagine this: I was designing one on the site, and had just finished when I found this video. They were identical, save the yellow calipers. Great taste.
@a004
@a004 3 месяца назад
What color is that?
@nitovegge
@nitovegge 3 месяца назад
"good soup" @@dlamb4prez
@nitovegge
@nitovegge 3 месяца назад
not sure. its not British racing green (I suppose), but that is just as good @@a004
@DonLambJr
@DonLambJr 3 месяца назад
@@a004Oak Green Metallic
@HandsomeAlex25
@HandsomeAlex25 4 месяца назад
This video format works really well - Doesn't look like that much more production than a one-take, but the narrative through line looks really well thought out, and there are enough fly-bys added in post to show off the car. I'd say it's about 98% of the effect of those highly produces pieces you and Zack were doing last year. I hope it's more like 60% of the work so you guys don't get burnt out.
@Daniel-tt8ni
@Daniel-tt8ni 4 месяца назад
Your wrist hardware is matching the exterior colorway of the touring, nice touch, car guy dorkiness at its best
@z06van21
@z06van21 4 месяца назад
Your explanation of trade-off with stiffness/sharpness VS vertical damping is spot on. I have a 718 GT4 with MCS 2-way remotes and in playing with the compression & rebound settings, you can feel that trade off in one direction or the other. So, for those who want the ST's suppleness but can't get or afford an ST, do not fret. Get yourself what ever version you want and swap out the suspension for 2 or 3 way MCS or KW set-up and you can have the best of both worlds. I switch mine up depending on what I plan on doing with the car and even though it is a manual process, it takes a few mins to turn a few knobs. I have a few different profiles that I switch between.
@markwalton8644
@markwalton8644 4 месяца назад
I was thinking your exact point and fit a lightened fly wheel and shorted final drive for under 15k and I bet you wouldn't be far behind the experience you'd have in the S/T. 100k is a lot of money for the extras you get. I believe all the S/T's have already been sold, probably to collectors ( who won't drive them) or salesman so they can sell them on for Mega bucks😢
@MrOneMOA
@MrOneMOA 4 месяца назад
And it won’t cost you over $100k 😂
@hovnojede010101
@hovnojede010101 4 месяца назад
⁠someone's already ordered S/T clutch and flywheel. The part numbers are already out
@porscherain
@porscherain 4 месяца назад
No one I can find makes a shortened gear set for the GT3
@chadbarbaro
@chadbarbaro 4 месяца назад
​@@porscherain demann?
@RedWagon888
@RedWagon888 4 месяца назад
Man, the dream is owning any GT product from Porsche. Amazing ❤
@eyesurgeon69
@eyesurgeon69 4 месяца назад
Extremely useful comparison. Peak torque at over 6k and a lightweight flywheel makes this a poor choice for real world driving but a great choice for youtube videos
@dougsmith4678
@dougsmith4678 4 месяца назад
Great review Matt. You are one of the best at communicating how a car feels and drives! Thank you for this great comparison.
@jlpower
@jlpower 4 месяца назад
What a machine. And something about the chrome trim just looks so classy. Love the Bamboo GS, btw.
@filoniz
@filoniz 4 месяца назад
But it is really practical to rev to 8 or 9k rpm to enjoy this on public roads? Just get the light weight 911 T, magnesium wheels, lighten the flywheel in the after market and coils. Get stage 1 or 2 tuned. Saves a lot of money and drive the crap out of it.
@davideslava3526
@davideslava3526 4 месяца назад
We’ve been waiting for this video for over a year, and you overdelivered Matt. You guys are awesome!! Cheers from Spain
@bargym2312
@bargym2312 4 месяца назад
That video was delightful. Matt, you were the perfect man for the job of translating the comparison of these 2 amazing machines.
@MrStlvette
@MrStlvette 4 месяца назад
Thanks Matt! Amazing review, so in depth & specific.
@dennison1500
@dennison1500 4 месяца назад
Was waiting for this one! Great review as always👍
@DPCcars
@DPCcars 4 месяца назад
Absolutely stellar review, Matt! 🌟 It's fascinating to see how passionate everyone is about the nuances of these models.
@EvoraGT430
@EvoraGT430 4 месяца назад
"Nobody does weight reduction like Porsche"? What a load of garbage. Lotus/Atom/Caterham/McLaren all way lighter than this huge barge.
@ernesternest815
@ernesternest815 4 месяца назад
@@EvoraGT430 come on. Maybe lotus, McLaren yeah but it will be in the shop all the time. Atom, caterham are specialty cars and not really in the same category. Sure the S/T is great but it’s unobtanium. Porsche can make a special anything and it will sell. Years of printing money have made a bunch of rich folks who scoop up everything. The good thing though is Porsche has some great cars that are absurdly cheaper that provide that Porsche experience.
@VK6AB-
@VK6AB- 4 месяца назад
They're not really, its mainly marketing. Long term owners are not fooled by this stuff. Given the talking point is still the engine which is largely the same as that found in 991.2 GT3 and the weight reduction commentary is priceless.
@liltay8962
@liltay8962 4 месяца назад
incredible video Matt the review exceeded my expectations I had for this video you are best auto journalist out there!
@grandpadre8811
@grandpadre8811 4 месяца назад
Excellent review! Thank you!
@thomascochran1181
@thomascochran1181 4 месяца назад
Also love the video, channel, and so thank you very much for all the wonderful content!
@fernandososa5547
@fernandososa5547 4 месяца назад
Now this is the video I wanted... Great Work Zach and Matt!
@barryhoft4123
@barryhoft4123 4 месяца назад
Great review Sir !! Now were waiting for th ST vs R report 😋
@nathankendall3467
@nathankendall3467 4 месяца назад
Great review I was just cross shopping these two for my next winter beater.
@eugenux
@eugenux 4 месяца назад
great review, thank you for showing us these cars at the same time.
@klaasfreres4650
@klaasfreres4650 4 месяца назад
Dear Matt, after delivery I drove my touring and I instantly felt that the rear suspension wasn't good as the front; rebound and high speed damping made the car jumpy after several bumps. For a moment I regretted the car. I contacted my specialist on suspension technic, madeno Racing, and he advised me ohlins ttx dampers on every corner. The oem system is blocked with a cancellation kit. I have to go under the car to change suspension but now irs absolutely the best handling car. Oem dampers where terrible, specially on open roads. Thanks for your tests
@eea1119
@eea1119 4 месяца назад
Great video, thanks Matt!
@benhickson2245
@benhickson2245 4 месяца назад
loved the pacing of this video great work yall
@ewan_ou182
@ewan_ou182 4 месяца назад
great review Matt. whether this is pertinent, but I have GT4RS, which I absolutely love. I drive my car frequently - 8300kms on the clock. Over the Christmas holiday period, I did a big road trip - Sydney to Melbourne, back to Sydney. I travelled almost 2400kms (1500miles), following the very scenic and winding coast road. The harder I pushed, the bigger my grin became. The roads were almost empty, so I pushed hard, resisting the urge to brake… I had the best time ever. Every car i have previously owned, was a manual, inc my prior car the 981 GT4, however I now truly understand the PDK, and I love it. Yes it was very loud inside (averaged 94db’s), but that’s why this car is so special. To me its the perfect tourer, however my question to you is: How do you think it compares to the GT3 Touring, and the S/T ? Please reply… thanks again Matt cheers Ewan - Sydney Australia
@xenontech9
@xenontech9 4 месяца назад
Watch for hearing damage!
@primehimselfdeluxe
@primehimselfdeluxe 4 месяца назад
Regarding the rpm fall ----> did you ever try "no lift shift"?😉The manual GT3 has a special mode for you, to stay on full throttle while shifting up. It holds the rpm in perfect rpm for the next higher gear. If you try it out, please make a video of that.
@tamoorc
@tamoorc 4 месяца назад
It works at any throttle position or RPM which is pretty cool. It makes a cool noise between shifts as well.
@speedracer8996
@speedracer8996 4 месяца назад
If you notice in the video at the 10:35 point, looks like he's utilizing the paddle shifters. As much as I love the shifter look and feel, I would be using the paddle shift often as possible.
@marccyberwiz
@marccyberwiz 4 месяца назад
@@speedracer8996 This car doesnt have paddle shifters its Manual only.
@garrettstupperware3754
@garrettstupperware3754 4 месяца назад
@@speedracer8996 Both cars are manual. The ST in the clip you're referring to is sold ONLY as a manual.
@JoakimDyredand
@JoakimDyredand 4 месяца назад
Same question here. Because that flat shift is my best ever experience!
@teamredgutz399
@teamredgutz399 4 месяца назад
This is a video I have very much been looking forward to drop. I’ve been dying to see what your opinion was on this topic
@car-nugget
@car-nugget 4 месяца назад
Awesome video! It’d be great to see a comparison with the Porsche 911 T vs Porsche GT3 touring.
@mattfam
@mattfam 4 месяца назад
Great video as always! Would love to get behind the wheel either car some day!
@quintongrand
@quintongrand 4 месяца назад
thanks for this video
@got_gt3612
@got_gt3612 13 дней назад
I just installed LWF from ST in to my touring , it absolutely transformed the car , kinda sprinkled more craziness in already crazy car. Reves like a motorcycle, makes all kind of shattering noises but most importantly keeps you focused even more. Every time I come back from a drive I feel like after good workout. Great video , very good points . Only think I can add is this LWF is not for everyone, it’s kinda CGT experience .
@rdspeedgarage948
@rdspeedgarage948 4 месяца назад
Great Review ( as always).. I have the GT3 Touring and love it! We live here in Utah with some of the best driving roads in the country ( from mountain passes, canyons and open desert, which is where the Touring excels
@antonioruiz1540
@antonioruiz1540 27 дней назад
Exellent review I would love to be behind the wheels of this two cars !!
@BixenteDelBosque
@BixenteDelBosque 4 месяца назад
very good review . Thanks !
@poehaaa4642
@poehaaa4642 4 месяца назад
Wow. What a perfect spec for a GT3 Touring.
@SoupyTurtle
@SoupyTurtle 4 месяца назад
Great video!
@willmaddox1986
@willmaddox1986 4 месяца назад
Tremendous video Guys!! Thank you. Really like the outfit Matt! Can't wait too see the Bentley turbo R video
@TheGreekCarGeek
@TheGreekCarGeek 4 месяца назад
The lightweight clutch of the Carrera GT, which I was told by one of the only, if not THE only, Porsche master mechanics to ever work on an S/T clutch (someone in the press already blew the clutch on the black S/T in this very video) is extremely similar to the S/T clutch; which is $34K on Suncoast Parts. Respectfully, Matt, It doesn’t make sense to me to make a comparison with a hypothetical $40K lightweighting package, when it would easily cost that entire sum just for the clutch, which is only one small part of what makes the S/T so special. The massive reduction of rotating mass (in total 85lbs including the PCCBs) and overall lightweighting using CFRP nearly everywhere, is frickin expensive $$ and there’s no cheap substitutions to get such a light and blippable/revvy car. Considering that the next closest high revving NA, ultra lightweight sports car with a manual transmission is the $2M+ Gordon Murray T33, and that $100K extra (+ crazy $ADM), in my opinion, pales in comparison.
@MrOneMOA
@MrOneMOA 4 месяца назад
The Gordon Murray car is TRULY lightweight. Nearly 1000lbs lighter than a GT3. This S/T is honestly faux light weight. A GT3 touring with a 16gal fuel tank weighs the same as the S/T with a long range fuel tank
@brianhimmelman420
@brianhimmelman420 4 месяца назад
bro u r “all in” on these S/T posts … can I assume u have allocation coming?
@TheGreekCarGeek
@TheGreekCarGeek 4 месяца назад
@@brianhimmelman420 hahah I do, and it’s also my dream car
@TheGreekCarGeek
@TheGreekCarGeek 4 месяца назад
@@MrOneMOA that’s absolutely true that the T33 & T50 are on another level, but their price reflects that. Lightweight is expensive.
@TheGreekCarGeek
@TheGreekCarGeek 4 месяца назад
@@MrOneMOA I don’t think 3056 pounds can be called faux lightweight though, to be fair, it’s only 192 pounds more than a BRZ, with 290 more horsepower, and a good chunk of that weight reduction was from rotating mass/parts, which has a multiplicative or even exponential effect on response, blippability, and acceleration
@SpookyConcepts
@SpookyConcepts 4 месяца назад
The sound!!! My goodness the sound the S/T makes, that's the dream. Even the chattering, which I kinda like
@beeeneee
@beeeneee 4 месяца назад
Great video. Btw what kind of watch is this? Grand Seiko?
@MrPimpmygun
@MrPimpmygun 4 месяца назад
The touring is to the gt3 as the st is to the 3rs. Thats the point, I don't understand how people don't get porsche by now. The recipe doesn't change, when the new gt2rs comes out they're inevitably be a boosted or hybrid drivetrain touring model as well that will be more then both of these. They fill out their model range so there's something for everyone, just because some guy in the comments is broke doesn't mean everyone else is
@brian_and_the_car
@brian_and_the_car 4 месяца назад
Great content as always! So as a P car novice that dreams of a Touring, where would the Turbo Lightweight fall in line with these? Is the GTS the best bang for buck or not even in this discussion?
@henrialen5054
@henrialen5054 4 месяца назад
One of the best reviews in long time🎉
@simplymusic487
@simplymusic487 2 месяца назад
Great review as always…. The quality of b-roll can be improved with drone shots, other cars shooting you from front and back. But like your no nonsense cut to the chase approach. Can you tell me which road this is?
@marciomendonca740
@marciomendonca740 4 месяца назад
The way you explain stuff, it’s like anyone who has never driven either, can understand exactly what you are saying. You are a cars voice Mr Matt. I have a 991.2 GTS and never driven a gt product, but I feel when I do, it will be as you describe
@maestroadam
@maestroadam 4 месяца назад
Beautiful car, great footage too!
@KyleConner
@KyleConner 4 месяца назад
This is the content we are here for!!
@reallypeacedoff
@reallypeacedoff 4 месяца назад
Great review Matt! I want a GT3 (any gen, really) so bad.
@AtypicalDriver
@AtypicalDriver 4 месяца назад
Comfort seats in the Touring are a good call, definitely makes it more usable day to day than the silly buckets.
@elcentinela3434
@elcentinela3434 4 месяца назад
Great video
@brieatz
@brieatz 4 месяца назад
Can find any Smoking tire gear on your website. Love that ski cap. LFG!
@Jtjustintimberlake
@Jtjustintimberlake 4 месяца назад
great car but beyond the reach of most. I really like what Porsche does with the Cayman as an alternative
@joeracer302
@joeracer302 4 месяца назад
It’s even crazier when you realize people will pay $75k over sticker to get a highly optioned PTS GT3t, so that $225k car is really selling for $300k. Personally, if I’m spending $300k I’m going to be cross shopping some serious competition. I just don’t get the desire for these cars at this price, and I own two Porsches, one was purchased new last year. 992 GT3 are just not worth it to me. The S/T are basically unobtanium, people paying $150k over sticker. Dealers making a killing tho.
@joshlongstreet3044
@joshlongstreet3044 4 месяца назад
@@joeracer302 I totally agree! This to me is why my 718 GT4 was such a great value proposition. Great package for the money (esp since i got mine at MSRP) when i ordered it
@Kacpa2
@Kacpa2 4 месяца назад
​@@joeracer302 Its scalpers and "investor-collectors" ruinig it and taking these away from majority of of car people who have higher medium class income, and the higher you go the less people who are true car people that you will find. So even the more fortunate petrol heads get screwed by this.
@papa_pt
@papa_pt 4 месяца назад
​@@joeracer302you're talking about maniacally rich P fans who get special editions just to dunk on their other crazy rich P car fan friends I love Porsche. Just met a couple people like the above mentioned recently 😂
@vehiculemagazine
@vehiculemagazine 2 месяца назад
nice to have the old format back.
@TonyWang
@TonyWang 4 месяца назад
One of the best videos on this channel
@marloon88
@marloon88 4 месяца назад
Waiting for Matt's 2005 nsx review!
@integrafreak1
@integrafreak1 4 месяца назад
The best Porsche is the most expensive one you can buy
@akarilotube
@akarilotube 4 месяца назад
I get the clattery clutch thing as I've driven a Carrera GT and the clatter on that clutch was off the hook. Great comparison.
@scotttibbits9703
@scotttibbits9703 4 месяца назад
Super keen for a real world comparison between Spyder RS and your Spyder Matt.
@BertrandDussert
@BertrandDussert 4 месяца назад
Great comparison. I’ll keep my manual 992 GT3 MR for now!
@RideTheLifeQc
@RideTheLifeQc 4 месяца назад
lil mistype in the vid title, great clip guys, thanks again !!
@2soonjunior
@2soonjunior 4 месяца назад
@thesmokingtire what's your favorite road? been loving yerba buena lately
@steadybreeze1443
@steadybreeze1443 4 месяца назад
Great comparison
@bbkerrC4S
@bbkerrC4S 4 месяца назад
Great review, full stop
@smee1198
@smee1198 4 месяца назад
Mega Matt. What I've been waiting for, on a car I'll sadly never drive or own. But we can dream.
@minskmuncher1
@minskmuncher1 4 месяца назад
As i sit here on Friday 2nd in the south coast of the UK eating fish & chips I thoroughly enjoyed this piece on two of the very finest Porsches anyone cant buy 😢 Oh to be on the Porsche preferred client list😊. Stumbled across your channel by random chance & glad I did😊.
@johnmclean687
@johnmclean687 4 месяца назад
Engineering excellence. Nobody does it better. Stunning cars.
@Poorschedriver
@Poorschedriver 4 месяца назад
6:52 Patrick Dempsey's stunt double out joyriding in the 911 again LOL
@noandrewhere
@noandrewhere 4 месяца назад
I am working in Automotive and had the opportunity to drive both cars last year. I’ve driven a lot of 911 for work and also use to drive and collect Porsches since almost 30 years now. My résumé is that there’s no relevant difference between the two models. It’s like with most of the limited edition cars of Porsche. They just change a few parts but it’s actually more about to create a special edition car than building a model that stands alone. I still remember how thrilling it was to drive a 993 RS or GT2.. These were special cars. But I also think it was the pinnacle of the automobile history.
@DasCayman
@DasCayman 4 месяца назад
Great video, nice to see someone hauling ass in a GT car. Flying through those canyons.
@VladiDusil
@VladiDusil 4 месяца назад
Great video, Matt. The comparison is sorta moot point, as the S/T is basically unobtainable, even to those with deep pockets. I'd wait until some of the S/T tech trickles down to the 992.2 GT3T.
@dp2901
@dp2901 2 месяца назад
Great review! Most of those globes are sold out, too.
@bto7779
@bto7779 4 месяца назад
That’s a nice Grand Seiko you got there Matt. 👍🏽
@karlin_oriley
@karlin_oriley 4 месяца назад
Thing about the ST is that it's not just better but limited. I think because of that prices will really get high on this one after a few years. Everybody loves the ST and many said in the reviews that it's the best Porsche ever built which makes it even more worthy. I myself wouldn't want to have a manual stick shifting on a car that's made for the sharp corners on a really curvy road. Shift Paddles make much more sense for me to be able to ALWAYS steer as good as possible! Great cars. Great review. Makes even fun while watching!
@mr.carguy3161
@mr.carguy3161 4 месяца назад
Don’t knock it till you try it! A lot of people love them for VERY GOOD Reasons! ✌️
@carforcoin1161
@carforcoin1161 4 месяца назад
I wish Nova Globe would fix that seam that cuts across the whole design
@rtsmith3921
@rtsmith3921 4 месяца назад
Mat, what is that watch you are sporting in this video? Love the green face
@popsbubbles1242
@popsbubbles1242 4 месяца назад
Nova Globes are cool Bought one in Washington a few years ago sits in my jitchen in the UK, still spinning 👍
@bavariancarenthusiast2722
@bavariancarenthusiast2722 4 месяца назад
This is as good as a review can be done! Awesome!!!!! ah well the ST is a great car too which I probably never will even see on the road.
@richardness3
@richardness3 4 месяца назад
Seems like softer springs and a light flywheel on a touring gets you 80% of the way there
@zeamethyst-M4Z
@zeamethyst-M4Z 4 месяца назад
the springs are not softer on the S/T. It is the tuning of the dampers that changes the suspension feel between them
@rahulmenon6073
@rahulmenon6073 4 месяца назад
i hope these features carry over to 992.2 gt3 touring (if it comes) sound deadening delete, light flywheel & clutch, shortened gear ratio (on manual) should be enough. i would still like to keep rear steer for daily use
@undergroundoutlaw411
@undergroundoutlaw411 4 месяца назад
I wouldn’t be surprised. Porsche cashes in on the $$$ from the clients who want a numbered car; then deliver a more “readily available” version next refresh.
@cben86
@cben86 4 месяца назад
This is the Porsche playbook. Would be surprised if this didn’t happen.
@zeamethyst-M4Z
@zeamethyst-M4Z 4 месяца назад
The softened suspension tuning will carry over to the 992.2 Touring, the lightened clutch and single mass flywheel will not. Shorter gearing tbd
@Boomtowndogs
@Boomtowndogs 4 месяца назад
@@undergroundoutlaw411 S/T boys about to learn about the 911R experience
@marccyberwiz
@marccyberwiz 4 месяца назад
@@Boomtowndogs 911R still priced up there. It's basically the same concept they took 991 and introduced manual with light single flywheel and that was 911 examples.
@anotheryoutubeuser3891
@anotheryoutubeuser3891 4 месяца назад
Jeff has a great collection of cars.
@felicianomedel
@felicianomedel 4 месяца назад
This will go down as a comparison for the ages 👍🏽
@bluelizzardperformance4051
@bluelizzardperformance4051 4 месяца назад
Just to put the weight of the car in context: It's as light as a C6 Z06 (Z07) ;).
@nyalsewell
@nyalsewell 4 месяца назад
No one can hustle a car in the canyons like Matt Farah. Freakin awesome video gentlemen.
4 месяца назад
I always skip your ads. I’ve had move globes for probably 10 years now. They still work and they’re amazing!! I’m going to buy another one now.
@brandonchism6960
@brandonchism6960 4 месяца назад
Outstanding piece Matt and Zach. Hopefully this will make the GT department deliver a "lightweight or Weissach" pack for the upcoming 991.2 variants.
@liamm-c1287
@liamm-c1287 4 месяца назад
Those globes are sick
@johnm.9982
@johnm.9982 4 месяца назад
Speaking as a lower class man, do people put coilovers on the 992 gens? Or is it preferable to keep the stock suspension just bc maybe the stock suspension is good enough or it feels better to them
@TheBucketOfTruth
@TheBucketOfTruth 4 месяца назад
The pin striping in the interior is so fly.
@justarandomcarguy
@justarandomcarguy 4 месяца назад
Only Porsche can swing removing features and charging more money for it.
@ChrisDorgan
@ChrisDorgan 4 месяца назад
That touring is a lovely spec. All it needs is some houndstooth in the middle of the seats :P
@Andrew-zx9wx
@Andrew-zx9wx 4 месяца назад
The Touring model showcased here is an absolutely gorgeous spec.
@atom999
@atom999 4 месяца назад
Wouldn't a good geo setup resolve the gt3 issues? Many people complain about the busy steering, which worries me as I consider one
@justinklassen8229
@justinklassen8229 4 месяца назад
so you're saying you need to have them both to have that back to back experience good call.
@shipnerd6590
@shipnerd6590 4 месяца назад
Great review, thanks! Any idea how many S/T are made in comparison to the "standard" Touring?
@zackklapman3569
@zackklapman3569 4 месяца назад
They’re going to make 1,963 of them.
@shipnerd6590
@shipnerd6590 4 месяца назад
@@zackklapman3569 Thanks!
@thomascochran1181
@thomascochran1181 4 месяца назад
So ~$40k option worth of significant nuance. You combine that with the collectible status, and the insane market for the GT cars and $100k sound appropriate. Jason Cammisa has talked at length at how Porsche has messed up the MSRP on the GT cars and how NA dealers are profiting off that mistake instead of it benefiting Porsche’s GT team’s development budget. I think he makes a good point, even if it just furthers the unobtainable status of these cars at least the money goes to the correct place.
@christianlorenzen623
@christianlorenzen623 4 месяца назад
Great review. I have a GT3 Touring and the only complaint I have is that is is loud inside the cabin. So much more „racing“ than „touring“. If the S/T has even less sound deadening than that would be an issue. I also am fortunate enough to have a 997 GT3 RS 4.0 - and that car is still the best Porsche GT car - imho.
@tboztheish
@tboztheish 4 месяца назад
Aren’t u awesome
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