Is The Sig 320 Spectre Comp The Best 320? 

The right side slide release is a bit harder to use because it doesn't catch the slide. Only the left side catches the slide, so pressing on the right side means you have to fight the left side on the end of a lever as the slide lock flexes.

Tonight on 1911 Syndicate: Jake finally finds a P320 that doesn't make him vomit, An Arizonan Yeti wants to kiss a human man and Sig Sauer still dislikes Left Handed Ginger Things.....

Jake's Custom House would be a great name for a high end 1911 shop.

The right side slide release is harder because it's not actually touching the slide. It's essentially an "extension" of the left side so it acts as a lever and it's sheet steel so it flexes, requiring more of a "throw" and more pressure.

Your comments on the prodigy/it’s reviews/sponsor bias were my sentiments exactly. Y’all continue to be one of my favorite gun review channels.

I EDC a P320 Spectre Comp and I absolutly love it..I only had 2 stovepipes during break in..I did install the DPM recoil spring and itself never malfunctioned since then..I have roughly close to 2000 through it, it's been an incredible shooter and my favorite gun buy so far.

This is how I wish the P365XL specter comp was built... with an actual comp instead of building one into the slide. I bought it anyways because I liked the gun but I also bought this gun for the same reasons. LOL I'm thinking about buying a new slide barrel and a real comp for my P365XL so its done right. All that said this was the 1st sig pistol I liked a lot other then the P226 thats just a legendary handgun. I love the videos guys keepem coming!!!

thanks

Mine had the same issue, Stovepipes. The recoil spring was too stiff for a comp and it suffered from weak cycle/ejection. And my issues didn’t stop or decrease after a few hundred rounds. So I got a DPM recoil spring and the issues went away. I can even run an SRO direct mounted now. Great gun and she is chunky.

I am over pretty much all SIG stuff 320s in particular. I bought a 320 X5. It blew up. So I sent it back. Sig was like is all good we slicked up the slide. Then it blew up again killing a pair of glasses. SO... Sent it back again. Ya the barrel had incorrect headspace. SO yup. Done done and done..... I have pics and the blown up brass and yeah....

I really, really love the P320, because it ended up introducing me to the Beretta APX and I'm in love with the APX, I like the look of the original more than the A1, but the A1 is current production so it's what I got.

Big fan of the channel love this review, picking up merch for Christmas. I love sig products but not crazy about the 320 but in love with the 365 series. This seems like the 320 to get if you want one for sure

If y’all like that, you should try the P320 AXG models. The metal grip module totally changes the feel of the P320

I have one of the original P320's which were their first pistols that had the Romeo 1. I upgraded the trigger with the Apex complete trigger package, replaced the grip module with the P80 full size grip module, had the slide milled with weight reduction of the slide and added a Terran Tactical mag extensions to increase capacity to 21+1. Needless to say, my P320 is one bad ass bitch.... It's almost identical to the Spectra Comp, but 3 years ahead of the Spectra Comp.....

I still have the original Vtac SIG 320, it's incredibly accurate and that soft trigger is smooth.

I have a compact p320 with a PMM JTTC 2.0 single chamber comp and the gun went through a break in period. It runs like a top now with the standard Sig recoild spring. I also runs great with an aftermarket DPM recoild spring. Initialy the pistol stove piped several times every magazine. 300 rounds later no more malfunctions. it runs great not. I had the same issue with a glock 19 and the Agency Arms Sage comp.

The electrical tape on the rail is so there's no play with the x300. I did the same thing with my Langdon Beretta 92 RDO and my x300. Also, Jake saying, "I ain't got no family" at the end was kind of sad. Poor guy.

Parker Mountain Machine! If you like to do a little yourself and save a few bucks. Awesome content guys!

The best 320 Is the one that doesn't go off in my holster 🤣 Seriously tho

The problem with Sig is usually you have to wait 3 to 4 generations before buying something. Good chance their 1st gen products are total dog shit.

Great Vid -this helped me put the brakes on me picking up one 👍

You got a new sub! Appreciate the video and the presentation. I jus got a 365 spectre comp and love it. Am eyeing this now

Better to be viewed as honest by your audience than favorably by all companies.

Regarding the break-in period, I have a custom P320 I did way before the factory Spectre Comp. It uses a subcompact slide Norsso, full size grip, and dual port Parker mountain machine comp. Granted it was cerakoted which affected the slide to frame fit initially, I also had about a 300-400 round break-in period. Switching to hotter ammo resulted in less stovepipes (124+p vs 115) and quicker break-in. Some guess will blame poor grip for cycling issues with comped guns, which may be accurate in some cases, however I found this to be a break-in issue as the malfunctions went away 100% after the initial 300-400 rounds. I have shot the factory P320 Spectre Comp, and the guide rod spring seemed on the very heavy side. Racking the slide took more effort than on most other guns I've shot.

I noticed a break in period additionally the slide loosened up after about 500 rounds. I did notice some really excessive wear on the barrel hood and lots of tin flaking off, all over my hands and beard. Sig says 'normal' wear I am not so convinced.

Mine had a break in period of about 100 rounds or so. I also had a PMM ultra comped p320 and I prefer the spectre more…the PMM Ultra was smooooottthhh though.

I've had 100% success with the P320 DH3 with over 2000k rounds so far, both 115gr and 124gr.. 5in bull barrel with direct mount Luipold DPP. It's the only Sig I have but I'm looking into trying others.

Are you guys selling merch? Love the hat.

Great video!!! Gun wasn’t half bad either lol. Yes I put the tape to get rid of a little bit of wiggle in the light.

Observation, I researched the clip of Jake shooting the P320 and the 2011 back to back, and to my eyes the P320 recoiled perceptibly flatter. But that could also be due to the x300 added weight. I shot my PMM dual port comped p320 back to back with the Spectre Comp, and mines shot considerably flatter than the Spectre Comp. I agree with Chris' comment, the aftermarket was doing this to p320s much longer than Sig, and to much better effect.

Am a lefty and I have an axg pro. No problems with lefty controls being stiff. Probably does need to wear in. I’ve got 1000+ rds thru mine too tho

My spectre comp was also stove piping for about the first 300 rounds. Since then, it’s had no issues

I was so closed to moving to the P320 and then they started showing up in the news again...unfortunate. Love my P365, and I an glad they used a plunger safety for that instead of what they did for the P320.

The X5 and the txg is the same dimension just different weight

Not really a fan of the P320, but can't pass up a 1911 Syndicate video.

I also had the stove pipe issue! I had it sent back to sig. They told me they had zero malfunctions and sent it back to me. It immediately had stove pipe issues again. It wasn't until the next time we had gone to the range that I realized anytime my left thumb touched the slide at all with my normal forward thumbs grip that it would cost stove pipes. Faster traveling ammo that was more snappy seemed to stop the issue. Or just not letting my thumb touch the slide. I bought a gas pedal. Next time I take it out we'll see how it shoots. It does seem to have less stove pipes once it's broken and more. However, on slow traveling ammo with my thumb rubbing the slide, it will slow it enough to cause stow pipes. I believe the gas pedal may be the solution. I have big hands. Hope this helps you guys

My problem with Sig is maths, hear me out. The Spectre Comp is $1,488.99 P320 X-Compact* is $600 TXG module is $250 PMM barrel/Comp is $355 So, where'd the extra $280 go? We all know that polymer guns aren't hand fit, their "custom shop" is picking up an FCU with a special serial number on it and slapping the gun together like it was another M18 or P320 Nitron. It's not "custom", it's accessorized. Sig is charging you more money for the Specter Comp than it costs you to just build one off a pre-existing assembled firearm, which means you get to save $280 _AND_ can sell the compact parts for some cash as well. I selected the X-Compact as an example because it has the right slide length and is red dot cut, and grip length doesn't matter.

The more use on the left side will act the same a polishing the part. Of course it gets easier to manipulate with more use. Like my revolver or wife

I've had 2 p320s and I can confirm they usually have had some sort of break in period which I'm ok with. some of my glocks had a slightly less break in period, but one that had a PMM comp had a bit more break in.

I have this gun, I believe there is a break in period. I had stove pipes malfunctions for the first 200ish rounds using both 115g and 124g ammo. It was MALFUNCTIONING every 2-3 shots… I tried“working” mags from my other 320 legion, didn’t solve it. Sent it into sig, they said “they couldn’t find an issue but replaced my barrel due to excess wear” I requested further testing. I got it back within 2-weeks at no charge (very happy with their support). Since I have shot it 500+ rounds no issues. Not sure if they fixed something but failed to mention it or if there’s a break in period. My experience

Tungsten infused grip module

Where's the Dog? Miss him getn into mischief and you yelling at him.

I've owned a few p320s and everyone of them had odd malfunctions for the first 400 or 500 rounds. Since then I don't think I've had any malfunctions

So I’ve been told that the recoil spring is too tight for the comp causing a lot of stove pipes. Anybody know if this is true and a fix?

The 320 VTAC is an incredible full size gun. Those Viking Tactical sights are so good you will not even want a red dot sight. I am trying to think of a role for the Spectre Comp. An out of the box competition pistol? VTAX 29.5 Oz. Spectre Comp 41.8 Oz.

Honestly a p320 shooting vanta flat is a huge compliment

Nice honest review as always guys. I want to buy one of these Spectre Comp guns but I'm hesitant about the stove piping issue. I wish Sig would make a good pistol with a comp that works flawlessly out of the box for the amount of money I'm paying for it, that doesn't have jamming issues that requires me to spend my hard earned cash and valuable time to either put 800+ rounds down it or pay $100 to DPM for a mechanical recoil reduction kit to fix the stove pipe problem. If your going to spend $1,600 for a gun you expect no problem shooting any 95-147gr 9mm out of the box. Why is Sig allowing this to happen and making tons of people so frustrated that they send their gun back to Sig to fix the issue. I just don't get it.

Congrats on not getting cancelled yet! lol You guys are great, love the video!

Txg (tungsten infused) and the X5 grip is different. Sigs way of squeezing an extra c-note out of you. It is also the heaviest grip you can buy (accept for the axg grip with brass inserts) I'm deep in the 320 rabbit hole. Every few months they release a new frame /ported slide/ compensator combo and charge 1500 for it. But it's all the same stuff.

Kahr poly guns had a 200rd break in suggested in the manual.

0n the sig manufacturer instruction guide there's a 1,000 round break-in period.

I’ve only been building 320s & 365s lately.. you can build them so much easier and better then any other brand..

I don’t have no family a dog 🐕 n a lot of 🍺 😂😂😂my Man💯✅

Personal preferences are a funny thing. I have owned many different types of pistols. I hated the p320 when it first came out... now it's my favorite platform going right now lol. It's funny how things vary from person to person.

That red dot has a night vision mode for nods im not sure hes aware of that.

Any safariland als holsters for the specter comp you know of?

Random, but can y'all do a video discussing some hearing protection options you would recommend?

Thank you for calling out the paid gun reviewers.

I’m thinking the 320 Spectre Comp needs to be broken in a little. I only have 50 rounds through mine, and I’ve had 3 or 4 stovepipes with it. I was pissed because the day I shot it, I had also shot both my Prodigies, and had multiple malfunctions with those. The only guns that I shot that particular day that didn’t have any issues were the pair of 365 XMacros that I picked up. They were fantastic and have made their way into my carry rotation. I like nearly everything about the 320 Spectre Comp, and hopefully my issues will work themselves out. Thanks for the video!

I’ve owned the M17 and other P320 variants and only kept one. My problem with Sig is they offer too many different (and overpriced) models only to be discontinued shortly afterwards resulting poor factory support.

Haven't had any problems with mine and I run 115gr federal through it for competition practice

Sig just seems to fill the spaces that all their customers want . You don’t have to buy the most expensive of the X series models as a Legion , AXG or RXP etc may do the job just as well. The Spectre Comp is just a variant that comes OofB with some of the customization that folks have been already doing aftermarket apart from a Graygun’s trigger or Barstow barrel etc. I have a few 320’s and shoot a P320 Max in competition cause it comes with a great Romeo 3 Max optic installed , a Legion tuneable 1911 spring system and a pretty good trigger. I’d say the Max without a comp may shoot softer than the Spectre Comp due to the design of the slide and the springs . I’ve had zero reliability issues with any of my Sig P320 variants. But I do swap out the OEM takedown levers with Armory Craft as the OEM’s can break eventually and run Springer extended mag releases for a fast reloads. Phil Schrader and Max Michel are both top competition shooters and their pedigree is evident in how a lot of these models perform IMO.

I have the P320 X compact and love it.

I purchased this model recently and also have had 1-2 stove pipes every mag. So far I’ve shot around 200 rounds and have still consistently have had at least 1-2 stove pipes per mag. Called Sig and was told that’s just what happens with comped guns…So hoping it is just a break in period but so far very disappointed…

Great video, what Safariland holster is that

"TIN finish " is Titanium Nitride. A coating that reduces friction . Its an extremely hard ceramic material, often used as a physical vapor deposition (PVD) coating on titanium alloys, steel, carbide, and aluminium components to improve the substrate's surface properties. I'm not sure this guy is aware of what a "TiN finish" is.

To be honest out of all the firearms I have & through 14 different companies Sig is my favorite but even that being said I don't like everything they do either. For instance I have the P320 X Compact which I like. I bought that over the original 320 or the M17 & M18 models. Because as soon as I picked all 3 up before even shooting immediately I didn't like them and I can't explain why it was just a feeling when it's basically the same gun.

My p320 spectra comp best gun I own in 9mili for edc Kinda only in the cold months 😂 Extremely reliable and accurate I would buy this gun 100 times over 💯💯💯

Jake, where did you get the t-shirt?

So what would you guys and gals say would be a good p320 to get and build? I wanna do a custom and not sure if the plain p320 is a good base

You have to use 127 gain or above to keep it from malfunction.

Can you please do a review on the Battle Arms Xiphos

Which holosun / adapter plate are you using on spectre comp? Thanks - Matt

It’s up there with the 2011’s

People always claim the comp does something but they ignore the insane weight haha 😂 looks cool and I like em but I definitely wouldn’t buy it for $1,500 bucks Lol FYI-the x-macro is the most returned new gun right now haha 😂

Life stop thing is normal . Sigs have break in periods , couple hundred rounds, even if they don't admit it, used to work there. Love Sig

Have you guys seen that Brouwer LLC "M1811" grip frame? It allegedly gives the P320 1911/2011 frame egors. Would like to hear your take on it

What holster are you guys using?

What holsters are guys using for this that have retention. Thank you

Sig has plenty of shills out there, glad you guys do honest reviews. I would wager thought that a shadow systems mr920/xr920 with a ramjet might be king

Got somethig only one other person has reveiwed but not many others have. Could yall check out GQ Palidin pdw in 300blk please

Icarus is necessary for me to like any of sigs polymer pistols

Definitely a break in period… I had to send mine in twice before I could “break it in”

fowler clearly had more muzzle rise, at least from a viewers standpoint.. which is surprising to me

I keep seeing litigation on the P320.

What stands do you use for your silohouette targets (both paper and steel)?

Sig is skynet

One, if not the only gun that's in the news more & more now days. Being completely Unsafe & LE Dept. are starting to switch back to Glocks, etc. Most of us have seen the vids of these guns just going off while Officers are walking while in duty holsters & the last video I seen was an Undercover Officer get out of his car, walk around another vehicle & boom! His 320 just went off without him touching it , etc. My Buddies PD SE of Houston will not allow them to Carry the 320 any longer & my old Dept. made the same switch. Too many liabilities & law suits. Calling this a "mythical issue" by highly trained LE Officers & Military? I think not! SIG is "Settling" most of these law suits & there's a lot of claims. I'll stick with my G19X & buy a Prodigy for that price, even though I do love the look of the M-18 🤟 If the Glocks were going off like the 320? The internet would be on fire!

Chris, if you ever feel like laughing you should check out those “reviews” of this gun by the Navy SEAL etc folks on this that Jake referenced. They’re not exactly believable…

Starting of the work night with the glories beard, ou and also some guns n shit....fuck yeah!

Thank God. Someone else who realizes p320’s are dramatically inferior pistols when compared to their striker fired counterparts. Why? There’s some major things regarding the 320 that are VERY troubling. (1) *THE ONLY PARTS OF THE P320 MADE IN THE USA ARE THE SLIDE AND BARREL.* That’s it. Every other part is made overseas in either Indonesia or India. (2) *Every other “metal” part - aside from the slide and barrel - is made of super low quality MIM and cast/stamped metal shavings.* All the slide internals, the entire FCU, the frame, etc… Using that much MIM for hyper critical components of the pistol is catastrophic for longevity. Mark my words. My X-Carry has been 100% through 5,000 rounds for 5 years. But that’s a low round count over a short period of time. What we don’t have w P320’s is long term data like we do with other pistols that have been around for decades. (3) *I believe we’re going to see a huge number of problems/breakages w the p320 pertaining to longevity only 10-15 years down the road (from 2016).* Things we wouldn’t expect to see from other makes and models of “high end, well made, striker fired 9mm’s”. BC handguns on average have an exponentially longer lifespan than rifles do. It’s not uncommon to see 1911’s, Berettas, CZ’s, DA/SA Sig’s, etc run for hundreds of thousands of rounds before even needing a barrel change. By comparison, AR barrels will typically last between 20,000 & 40,000 rounds. So in summation, it’s pretty terrible of Sig to choose profit over quality by shipping manufacturing overseas conflicting w their ethos. And it’s even worse to hide this from the public while continuing to charge premium, made in the USA, firearm prices. Very disheartening. I implicitly trust my life to my 226’s and 229’s… But my 320 remains only a range/training tool. YMMV.

I would be curious to hear you and Mike Glover discuss the Sig 320. I think it would be a great interaction.

I’ve never shot either of the spectre comps. but that’s fucking crazy if you guys are telling the truth about recoil being the same. everyone I’ve talked to or the videos I’ve watched make it seem like it’s a big difference, you guys are literally the only people I’ve heard say that guess I’ll have to shoot one and find out

I built mine before they put the spectre comp out. Now they need to jump on the 2011 market. Make a good 2011 with a chunk port and butter smooth slide.

I hear ya. GBRS and Mike Glover sell a ton of Sig guns. I think status matters in this market. But…..Chris likes it too! So Sig is probably about to sell out of those damn things.😊

Having owned several P320s, my issue with them comes down to this: modularity aside, the base P320 models are just ok. There's nothing particularly special going on, and the triggers are kind of creepy and mediocre. On the other hand, when you get into the "Custom Works" P320s, while they tend to be better than the base models, they are WAY over-priced for what you get, and this seems to be no exception. I would expect a $1400 polymer striker to be excellent. Instead, they are just "good," but still not amazing. I can get a Walther Q5 Match for the price of this P320 Spectre Comp, and I don't think there will be any comparison - not in terms of overall build quality, nor trigger.

My problem with Sig is the customers are still the Beta testers. I am interested in the macro but I see people say the mags and the iron sights rust on them after only a few weeks of carry.

I shot maybe 200 rounds and no issues with mine

Bore axis is dookie

Yes