Is the Sole Survivor a Synth? A Fan Conspiracy Theory 

Well...I guess I'll just have me one of them chicken wings. 😞

Maybe Father discarded the recall code

Justas Griškevičius, that’s actually funny.

* the death music plays*

C5-*69* you say? Nice.

Now I need to replay thst quest to make sure 😂

There is evidence to suggest the player may be human in mind and spirit but not body. His body may have died from trauma of being thawed out. Eveyone else died from being thawed. Its possible your consciousness was saved. A transhuman. The first gen 4.

@@TheInTemperance one thing makes your entire well laid theory fall to pieces. The Vault Tec Rep. The Institute would have never known about him. And he recognizes you when you run into him inside the Hotel Rexford. They couldn't have programmed that.

@@TheInTemperance The V.A.T.S system is explained to be part of the pip-boy in previous games.

he or she is not because we take RADS

SS: Really I’m not a synth! * Proceeds to be able to store a seemingly endless amount of info in their head that would send any normal man into a coma * (no level cap)

@@keithkania3810Without a doubt: >Data banks for weapon & armor mods in the head of a pre-war ATTORNEY the moment you leave the vault. >You need to calibrate your weapon so you use them more effectively. >Underwater breathing. >Solar regeneration. - All-in-all, I think THIS was father's experiment. Turn you into a synth with all these starting benefits and see how this would end up. This 'evolution' of humanity.

It would explain the more seemingly supernatural perks you can get in the game. Such as solar powered goulish and ricochet, for example.

@@muffinman2546 exactly

Did someone call my name?

Well im not sure about them being able to remember all their old memories, the sole survivor can only remember the day the bombs fell and some minor pre-war information. Shaun may have been a baby at the time but he was still present that day, using the same technology as what the memory den uses he could've relived that memory and recreated it in the sole survivors mind

@@nomaidens5734 gameplay and narrative limitations. when is the last time a fictional character had an entire lifetime of memories created?

@@Blox117zio. Kratos. Master Chief. Fable series. Just to name a few instances

@@themop7007 so your entire lifetime can be summed up in 5 minutes. congrats, NPC

@@Blox117 Dude…. Are you comment baiting right now? There’s no way you’re that dense…

Dam

Ok but what if you make the SS black?

Resident Evil: The Final Chapter

@@8wholebagsofcorn911 What about it? Shaun is black is the SS's parents are. :/

@@8wholebagsofcorn911 Better question is what if you’re Nora.

You're a super synth!

The institute got bored and created me (look at my name)

Sinth Toaster Lol

"Experimental subject"

"I just learned a terrible truth. I think the sole survivor is a synth lord." "A synth... Lord?"

The true meaning

The sole simp

im a simp for piper

Yes

He’s a happily and respectfully married man, so in other words a good for nothing simp

If the sole survivor was a synth , the Brotherhood would have killed them

It’s possible he was a secret program

@The_Commonwealth_Prepper well the sole survivor also takes radiation damage, gen 3 synths don't

SS just like most people are saying is most likely a gen 4 synth. Unlike other synths and coursers, SS is probably more advanced and more human than gen 3 synths, that's why the brotherhood isn't able to detect if the SS is a synth.

​@@JonathanH1253Yet he can breathe underwater Something humans can't do

Go on little one, shoo shoo

That's when I was done with my institute run , I was pissed lmao

8:47 Ohh what’s this vault 111 Cryogenic shut off FOR SCIENCE!!!!!!

Decorated war hero that lost wife and child you mean?

Parent: *Becomes death destroyer of worlds*

* SKYRIM MUSIC INTENSIFIES *

>get thawed out from cryosleep >"hey you, you're finally awake"

@@partyparrot8495 you were trying to cross the border right?

Ray P same as us. You walked right into that imperial ambush.

@@anonymoussmartass5347 and that horse thief over there.

Tbh, Father could have had the team that built SS killed to leave no loose ends and so this could be why no one knows about this. Like remember the movie Face Off ? How the team that transferred the faces were killed to leave no loose ends ?

@@Deadsea_1993 Highly unlikely. What is the purpose behind such secrecy that you would need to eliminate people that would otherwise be useful resources to the ongoing goal of populating the world with synths? He did not kill those who created child Shaun. He likely would have put more observers on you instead, if you were a synth, because there would be more data that the Institute could gather to improve their synth development and control even further just from studying a synth survivor making their way through the wasteland.

@@Deadsea_1993 It's more likely that only a few knew and those were 'sent away', like maybe the leader of the SRB? If a whole team of institute people died suddenly that would have been in the institute's records.

@@BattleSpew The child Shaun was a cover for a new generation of synths. The institute's scientists refer to him being an experiment in emotional stress, but the child displays a quality he shares with the SS that is unique to the two of them. Shaun makes the Wazer Wiffle from a few scrap objects the SS brings back for him, while the SS makes FUSION GENERATORS and INDUSTRIAL WATER PURIFIERS!?! from a little scrapped junk items! Name any character in fallout 4 with that same capability.

tl'dr - Agreed. If you side with the Institute once it becomes clear you are in fact with them all the way and not hiding your allegiances with anyone else Father/Shauns demeanor becomes far less clinical. He admits that in the face of death his usually pragmatic and almost robotic view of the world has been shaken and in the end comments that if you admit that you still love him that it's miraculous and is a vector he is unable to quantify. That is until the end, where he straight up tells you he loves you in return and knows you will commit yourself to creating a better tomorrow. I think we've got a man who's recognized his own mortality after a life of never even considering it and who is starting to feel emotions he never had before and thus releases the SS, he doesn't know if they'll survive but other dialogue trees show that he is incredibly grateful they do as he comes to understand a love he admits he never had. As for the "all of this was for nothing" I think you're bang on the money. If you explore the terminals throughout the Institute you can learn long before anyone says anything that he's dying and that he has put great effort into the child synth program "while there's still time". It's blatantly clear that his views on Synths are changing, or at the very least he wants the SS to have the chance to raise a child that was stolen from them. People like to say the Institute is the worst group to side with, personally I disagree but that's a argument for another time. What is clear is that in the face of death Shauns view of the world is changing radically, which as someone whose mother was a hospice nurse I can tell you is a very common thing to happen to terminal patients. They often want to right wrongs, apologize for mistakes, set things in order and many of them regardless of religious history start considering the matter more seriously. I think regardless of the Institutes motives Shaun was very much experiencing these things. At any rate even if all of what I just wrote is bs there's still the fact that at the end he likely would have deactivated you along with himself before dying if you were a synth, not, you know, make you the DIRECTOR OF THE INSTITUTE.

Not to mention the other directors were likely opposed to the idea of leaving themselves vulnerable and open to potential exposure. There may not have been much material investment, but the idea of even exploring any of his emotions as well as holding off the other directors from just executing you on the spot. The question of "How far will my parent go for me?" is a powerful one, even more so to someone who doesn't even have a baseline understanding of what that really means.

@@Goldenkitten1 i like your idea, and agree on a lot, it sounds so awesome would love to read or hear more from you. Its so awesome that you put so much time and effort in to wrighting all this👌🏼

@@mikethegamer_als It's been a while since I played so I may not remember everything clearly but what did you want to talk about?

What If Shaun didn't make a recall code for the Sole Survivor?

@@april8604 that's like saying I'm going to make a car without brakes.

@@pandapanda4124 there are cars without breaks. Also why would he give his synth a recall code? So the Institute could wipe out his "Father" and have a war against themselves? Watch TheShoddyCast take on it

@@april8604 there are ways to stop a car without brakes. But to build a car without brakes is illegal and dumb. As an engineer, you would have to have a safety. Saves you from lawsuits ect. But back to the point, he should have a safe way of controlling all of his synths. Thus making the main character not a synth.

@@pandapanda4124 why would Shawn want to deactivate his synth? He made it to lead the Institute to greatness why let some idiot stumble Apon a code and deactivate the leader of the Institute? Shawn was passing anyways so it makes to leave the institute in the hands of his personal creation solely created to make the wasteland better and

you could say the same if the sole wasn't a synth tho

It'd be more about the institute involving with vault 111, leaving a thread they could use to track down the institute as they took the sole survivors son, which would have been logged at least somewhere, or evident from other things like the fact every other inhabitant is dead, and the sole survivor's spouse very obviously died in a struggle of some sort

There no way decon or the railroad would ever know that

Its intentionally done, so that the definition between man and machine is blurred for the main character. The whole game is about "What makes a human, human?" The railroad believes all sentient lifeforms are "human" or at least deserving of life. The brotherhood of steel preaches purity. Despite the fact that they themselves, have genetically altered, and cyberneticly enhanced themselves to the point where an argument could be made that they aren't human. (Making them massive hypocrites lol) The institute believes that machines, and nonhumans are lesser, (including the slightly mutated wastlanders) nothing but tools despite the fact that they intentionally make synths more and more human, and self aware. The Minute Men are the only faction that completely side steps this philosophical debate, as essentially they only care for a protected and safe commonwealth for all.

@@shaggyspade2468Brotherhood under maxim is odd. in all honestly if Sara had remained in charge i could see the BoS being better. But they probably purposesly made this iteration of BoS worse so that it wasnt so cut and dry for who was the best good ending.

@@damienmitchell3104 The Brotherhood of steel isn't a single faction, their are multiple splinter factions (chapters) each with varying levels of bigotry, and hypocrisy. (Some are good, but it's few) The east coast faction (chapter) is pretty bad, but the Mojave faction (chapter) of the Brotherhood is pretty good. Most players don't realize how splintered they are and each group either hates and only begrudgingly works with each other or is actively at war with the rest. Oh and 90% of the splintered off factions (chapters) refuse to change their name. And its so bad that its really impossible to point at any one group as the original Brotherhood of Steel. Because of this a lot of players are blinded by the name and never realize they might be helping the villains. The best way to tell is if someone starts talking about purity or purging they are most certainly the villains... lol, but most weebs wouldn't be able to register that.

@@shaggyspade2468 the west coast faction actually cut off the east coast faction because lyons kept helping people, and wasnt "focusing on the mission." From what ive seen, Elder Maxson's ideals are more in line with other factions of the brotherhood.

@@alexkimmel386 not really. The west coast brotherhood’s goal is to preserve technology. Maxson’s ideals are to wipe out anything that isn’t human. The brotherhood in the early fallout games had to be convinced by the player to fight the Master’s super mutants, whereas Maxson just kills anything and everything.

Plot twist: the sole survivor is the master

:0

Plot twist: the war never happened and it’s all just a dream

Plot twist: your mum's a super mutant

New California mod be like

Yooo a gaming grandma, cool.

I hope you are still healthy and doing fine !

70yo grandmother? Sounds like something a synth would say...

@@fernandocontreras1577 she'll be fine as long as she stays away from the chems... RIP Mama Murphy.

Yoooo mama Murphy gaming!

I think your theory is actually plausible. Even if there is no hard evidence for it. I always thought it was kind of weird the SS could Just pop up a settlement. Become a leader in a world of destruction and death. Or learn certain skills just by unlocking them. Rise in the ranks of the brotherhood the railroad and even leading the minutemen. A human can’t do these things. And neither a synth or courser. But a new prototype synth gen4 Able to choose its skills and problem solving skills however is a deferent story.

One of the theories or head cannons I am toying with is that the perks in the game represent muscle memories or skills something like the way some people who have amnesia still retain their knowledge of language and other skills they developed throughout their lives while not remembering where they learned them. The SS was built with those memories and the perk chart represents the SS figuring out how to use them effectively. In my head cannon Shaun was a prototype of the SS given how he creates the Wazer Wifle.

I don't get it

I think I get it now. Is it because when you squint in a mirror, it makes you look like a grumpy old man?

Have you ever done that? When you squint your eyes and your eyelashes make it look a little not right and then with just enough light comes from just the right side and you find you're not who you're supposed to be?

idk i thought it was a reference to the beginning of the game when you are customizing your character in the mirror but i guess i just don't get it haha

Marmite Badger LOL me too!

Why thank you, I find odd that nobody else, specially Ox, didn't mention this.

thanks for sharing, that's wild

Sherlock Ohms finally, someone who noticed this besides myself!

Sherlock Ohms that's possibly a glitch the game has the action and thinks you don't know the button to activate it and the pipboy "activates" it would that be right?

I don't know. I feel with Bethesda's attention to detail on certain parts of the story that they would remember to add a trigger like waiting until the pip-boy to activate VATS. May sound ambiguous, but I feel like with Bethesda's track record that its equally as likely it was an accident as it was intentional and they added that one terminal record to explain it.

And nick brother asking you do you remember anything other then that day and you can't remember anything

@@TheMadsav1993 it would make sense if you didn't have other interactions with other npcs in the commonwealth recalling events prewar.

@@TheMadsav1993 plus dima says that trauma and painful events can affect one's memory aswell

@fernando contreras my dude you don't forget your entire life but one day and still be able go function as a person

@@TheMadsav1993 alright but you still have no rebuttal to my first answer..if you actually payed attention to the game you'd know it doesn't add up. Plus one of Bethesda team members said that ss was intended to be human.

I always thought it was Nate in the intro video WEARING power armour so I was even more confused

I think it was an oversight and probaly for new fo players

Well and there is option to ask abaout to minigun. Abaout power armor im sure they add that line just for the players that are playing fallout games first time that who dont know what power armor is. Minigun part is just lazy writting.

that's all pointless tho, simply because you are going to pull a memory that is the largest memory, i mean simply put while he knows of grognak and such. that's not a significant memory. it is simply a memory. his son and wife is a huge memory.

The Main character could have had knowledge of watching silver shroud, grognak, etc but they weren’t actually there. It was just knowledge they had

Also the opening cinematic of nate as a child, being told a story by his mom, that was a memory Nate was having so he knew his childhood

Also he says (albeit sarcastically) his father used to say he would always sit too close to the television when he is being medically examined by the BoS, so he obviously remembers his childhood.

Your right. The Sole Survivor is the Real Deal.

Honestly the game takes so long I have no sympathy for Shaun because I have found new family, new work and have formed better relationships.

To be fair..... Shaun may be your son... But when you meet him, his a stranger... Brought up and raised by the institute in their image.... Father is a dictator... He doesn't care for the opinion on his staff... And shows the soul survivor a distant attitude.... In my playthrough I couldn't side with the Institute... I either went for the Minutemen or BOS.

@@sebastianbreytenbach4689 the bos are practically Nazis, constantly preaching about themselves as being the master race and were purging all others.

@@v0rt3x41 I completely agree, the institute although is more evil for kidnapping and murdering innocent people, as well as Shaun saying he released u from vault 111 as an "experiment of sorts", BOS is also an evil ending but is useful and profitable during end game(Yes they pretty much are Nazis)

@@sebastianbreytenbach4689 I completed all of them and they all have pros and cons, but my main storyline (and the one I used just yesterday - after 4 years untouched) is the institute. My reasoning, is a rational one. My character (and well myself in general) is intelligent, logical and rational. She has been through literally hell after bombs fell and has seen humanity basically become animals. (raiders, super mutants, robots, humans) The institute, and becoming leader of such, is the only way to create some sort of humanity again. Basically it is by becoming the leader, you can control what the institute does. By destroying it, you are only leading to another like it to pop up again but even worse. Bit like Hydra in the marvel show.

Dam that's some dope shit you're smoking

It gave me an idea as to how this could be: When you finally meet Father, he WOULD be revealed to be someone related to you...but he's not Shaun. He's you. He's the real Sole Survivor. He'd explain that those memories you have of Kellogg kidnapping Shaun and killing your wife were fake memory implants. Your Pre-War memories are real, but that's because they're HIS memories he put into you. Everything after getting frozen the first time are fake memories he implanted. When questioned, he explains that in reality he and his family did get out fine along with all their neighbors. The Institute Senior Membership are made up of your old neighbors from before the War. The original Sanctuary Hills inhabitants. They were all found and sheltered by the Institute decades earlier and treated like VIPs. The story of the Synth who killed the CPG would be elaborated on and it turns out that the Synth didn't kill everyone and the Institute were made a scapegoat. Fighting broke out between surface Institute settlements and the Commonwealth, and Nora died. This soured the Sole Survivor on the surface world so he took leadership and made them isolationist. A while back, Shaun himself died from cancer as a young man. Depressed, the Sole Survivor began to question if he'd done the right thing becoming the cold Institute leader and cutting them off from the surface. He wondered if anyone he knew before would even recognize him anymore. He also knew the Institute was working on their most advanced Synth yet, one they felt would be undetectable by science and superior to any human. He took the project and decided to model the new Super-Synth on himself, before he was frozen. He'd put him in the Vault he woke up in, give him a fake story to justify him leaving the Vault to explore the world and then arrange for them to meet. The question would be "Okay, you have all my memories and you've seen how brutal the world is. Do you agree with what I've done?" So the Player is in fact the first of the 4th Gen Synths, a new being created in the image of his creator and without an Override code so the Institute can't stop him. His own choices and experiences lead him to decide the fate of the Commonwealth and the Institute. Nora and Shaun were never his actual wife and son, those were fake memories. He has complete autonomy in who he wants to be now.

@@ShadowSonic2 that is an awesome idea.

But he still refers to an old man when you're playing a female

I thought the debate about Shaun was that child synths don't grow up?

Articus Ramos *hank hill voice* Damnit Dima!

FUmarc l

Yeah I love those games

ibrahim kuyumcu the diamond city guards arnt synths I killed everyone in diamond city

ibrahim kuyumcu aye, Nick and Codsworth are the characters with the most humanity.

TheLongDark answer correct

THiS is BiG bRAiN TImE

"One of the survivors" tbh....It would have been way better if the playable character was just a random joe who gets involved with the institute in another way than forcing us to play as the parent of a kid. wtf happened with role-play. F4 basically made us play as a fixed character.

Hahaha that's like being part of the Lone Wanderer's!

This fits well with the previous protagonists FO1 Vault Dweller: Because if everyone in the game were Vault Dwellers, he wouldn't be specifically THE Vault Dweller FO2 Chosen One: Because if other people were the chosen ONES, he wouldn't be the CHOSEN ONE (duh) FO3 Lone Wanderer: Because if he wasn't an antisocial little shit, he wouldn't end up wandering alone FNV Courier Six: well... he was the 6th mailboi, that speaks for itself I guess

Preston: but i got ending too Me: ok So what IT is? Preston: an anoth- Me: OH F**K OFF

XD its soo true Preston is so annoying

i hate to say it... BUT THIS... IS TRUE

Brotherhood: Destroy Institute: Control Railroad: Synthesis? Minutemen: Refusal

Brotherhood: Kill all Synths!!! Railroad: Free all synths!!! Institute: Enslave all synths!!! Minutemen: PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE!!!

@@TheInTemperance but synths are programmed to obey the institute, why would it benefit them to test him, unless they are trying to find the fault as to why so many previous gen synths are sort of defective.

@@TheInTemperance Dude you are delving way too deep into this.

@@TheInTemperance Dude I'm sorry but Fallout 4 is not as deep or complex as you think it is. I honestly don't care if the main character is a synth or not, I've heard the theories and shit before but it just doesn't add up for me. We all have ego problems but I can assure you I don't have one when it comes to a video game like this.

@@TheInTemperance Lol if you keep going any longer you'll have written me a book. Can't wait for the crazy theories you'll come up with after 3,000 (!) hours of playing the Withcer.

@@TheInTemperance Lol

Well it was a perfect way of making the mod immersive instead of a series of choices.

LupusPurpura I don’t consider that part to be apart of the story when I play. I still think my character is human, not a synth. I just think of it as a customization menu

you know, now that you bring it.... up the "start" of our first bethesda fallout game (FO3) had us literally starting out as an infant. We "lived" out every moment of that character's life from start to finish (however that goes, choices depending) it's an interesting note because, strangely, that does not make that character the odd one out; that title belongs to the protagonist of New Vegas whom we meet in their, I think, early to mid twenties. In FO4 we also see an element of our protagonist's backstory but it's only a fragment, reduced to one day. Arguably it is the most important day of our character's life but that doesn't exactly lower suspicions here. Could this not be the memory programmed to propel the Sole Survivor into the Commonwealth with a very strong sense of purpose and will to live? The bits and pieces of the Sole Survivor's life alluded to in dialogue, the sparse memories of halloween are vague at best; of course life was happier back then, the world wasn't a spinning ball of radioactive rubble. Father even went so far as to include details about halloween preparations (advertisements for such things are scattered throughout the fallout universe), the world did end on october 23rd after all.

Only Mxr Mods has the ability to nominate something *IMMERSIVE*

I have the mod and you get the pip-boy for free and I think I am a old synth model made more like a real person.

Plus,regardless of what you say, during the Covenant test you pass and they let you in

although an interesting piece of evidence, there are many possible explanations as to why the sole survivor's data wouldn't be in the institute database that gets ripped off. one possibility is that he/she is not a synth. another possibility is that for some reason (top secret pet project?) the data has been purposefully omitted

@@alanoxford6219 their data

@@alanoxford6219 and they are

they found the"missing synths" file so no youre wrong about that idea if you open a terminal in the institute there's a file about a special project...that project can slow the time(vats) and many more info that i forgot but it matches to player hell...he/she cant even remember about his/her past...the player is indeed a SYNTH

Hey uh Nick is an in-between gen like not quite gen 3 but definitely not gen 2. Curie takes rads, as does Sturges H2 and Glory

Bc Gen 3 synths have actual organs and shit

ok, didnt know that

@@Koamanokit That's okay, not everyone has an obsession with the lore of the institute

@@PirateOfGermany i dont learn lore, i just enjoy the games

Lol

@American Patriot what u talking about synth cuz when i killed u, u had a synth component

What a twist

Panics in Synth*

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are you sure? Father will claim synths are just machines but then hands over a child and asks you to be a family. a straight up contradiction, the man is very calculating and puts up a front imo.

Bobby Bologna He still had no problem using the recall code on child Shaun when you first meet him.

Bobby Bologna It's just the poor writing of Bethesda and their lack of consequence. The whole video is full of overinterpretation

of course, smart of you to consider that.

quintis rayne I agree

Horses!!!!! Where the fuck.....

@@blackicegaming5464 facepalm. Google "pommel horse". And all sttlers can do that....

seems like every wastelander benches well over 200 lbs for reps lol

Not to mention you can carry 300 pounds of gold bars without getting tired

Rango pistacho I forget, are gold bars worth a lot of caps in Fallout 4?

My boi Paladin Danae

Yep

Unless the Sole Survivor was a personal project of Father and he managed to keep it a secret.

no you got it wrong Shawn was taken while he was a baby Kellog said we have a backup so the sole survivor is human but he grow up without having time with her/his kid so father made a child Shawn for the sole survivor so she/he has a child to take care of the main reason for father do do it because he felt bad for the sole survivor growing up without his parents so the idea of having a synth Shawn is for the player not for any other reason

@@sabrina2368 oh but Father did say he didn't now if you survive

Their

But how could the institute program the memories of the vault tec rep.

@@esclavodelsistema9783 Hmm good point. Quite possibly just sloppy writing on this whole issue because there’s a lot of contradiction.

@@MarionRelics . Because he remembers SS from before the war and he doesn't know that he is now talking to a synth. SS was killed after Father proved to be successful and they were left in the vault. Father has them rebuilt as a synth and then the original body is destroyed. SS is the prototype Gen 4 that is one of a kind. There isn't another like them cause they basically are like Terminators with advanced free will and are modeled after Humans to a higher degree than Gen 3 Synths. This is also why despite being a lawyer, SS as a mother can become a combat expert and take a lot of damage

@@Deadsea_1993 That would work for explaining the VT rep I guess. Still takes a looooot of fan theory glue to hold it all together and contradicts a lot of Institute interactions. Why would Father make a synth Director while insisting that synths are just tools?

@@Deadsea_1993 why are you saying all that like it’s a fact? It’s sloppy fan fiction at best.

Even just the brief interaction with Kellogg. If you were a synth experiment, and he knew, he would taunt or allude to it, that's his kind of personality. It would be hard for him to not know of it, as he's #1 for the above ground dealings, and likely keeps his cyber ear on everything happening going in and out. As far as Kellogg's memory goes, you're left alive in the cryo pod, and are human. Of course, argument could be made about the Sole Survivor being destroyed later secretly, but as others have pointed out, if SS was killed before a synth one was made, then a dead brain could not have been copied. The only other thread to copying SS would be after teleporting had been implemented, going in, grabbing the still alive sole survivor, taking them back to institute for a brain copy, a la Nick Valentine style, and then disposing of the original, which seems like a dumb idea, unless if the original proved unsatisfactory, but an operation like this being secret would be difficult, as even the Director of the Institue is still challenged and debated against in their own Directorate meetings, and it's not as if the Institute is a sprawling maze facility where things can be out of sight and secret, unless if there is a ton we just don't get to see, because of limitations of design.

@@JG-gv1zx You have no idea if a dead brain could or could not have been copied by the institute without knowing the state of the SS and the technology available to the institute. We know there are different technologies to access peoples minds and we know that even when turned off the cryopods preserve the bodies of people very well. Just because the body is dead and the brain is dead does not mean that the brain has necessarily decayed away. Technology to stimulate areas of the brain tissue that are not completely destroyed or maybe even some that is and access that information isn't so far fetched because, you know, *cough*Kellogg*cough* we do that with him. You need to replay this video again let alone the game. Dude, even Oxhorn mentions how it is the director's way or the highway and a penalty could even be death. Yeah you might be able to speak your opinion against something but no one is challenging Father, we clearly see this. No idea where you got this notion like the Directorate meetings were some kind of board meeting with votes. You are basically looking at a king and everyone else are merely advisors. And despite father keeping secrets successfully already and a boy helping synths escape the institute for god knows how long you got the impression that people couldn't hide things in the institute? Certainly wasn't the case in the game I played.

Where's the thing now none of the memories were copied, do you know I asked you what your earliest memory is. It's not the war not getting married, it's not even the birth of Shaun. The earliest memory is the bombs dropping. We always assumed that's the lone survivors earliest memory. But what is that Sean only memory of his parents. The reason you started the game at that point , is because that's all your son knew about. It makes sense oh, they didn't download the brain of the Lone Survivor. It's white even though it's been only days after your wife died, you can hook it up with Piper or Curie or anybody else you don't have any real emotional ties to your life. It's also why you don't have any strong military loyalty. If the sole survivor really was a military Soldier oh, why didn't he try to get contact with the American government. It should have been more of his quest to revive The Enclave if he really was pre-war. But it's not, because you aren't prewar.

Also the Vault Tec rep remembers the Sole Surviver

@@WhysoSeriousSamual You start in pre war, for plot, that is how you build tension in a story. What has your protaganist lost recently? What crisis (if any) is going on? F4 answers these with, you lost everything due to a massive nuclear fallout. There is no deep meaning to it, other than a mechanic (or device) for you, as a player, to feel tension.

There is evidence that they could remotely access vault 111. The vault is designed to be remotely monitored and controlled by vault tec.

@@darrekworkman5595 There's evidence that Vault Tec can. There's no evidence that the Institute can.

They can make endless synths but can't program one robot?

@@spiffygonzales5899 If we take this path, than anything is possible. Our world is only 100 years old, and the Flying Spaghetti monster planted "archaeological evidence" to have fun with us. But let's say they did. He finds evidence from his past life everywhere. The room that he was going to make his speech... even his neighbors as ferals. Even if we say that "everything was planted", even the salesman that we find alive in Good Neighborhood is an "actor", how do you "program" a feral ghoul to pretend to be your neighbor?

@@spiffygonzales5899 Or easier still, access his memories and use them to create a more accurate implanted memory for the sole survivor.

Robbie Coombes They could have deleted the data of the sole survivor

@@SPrime345 But before that the sole survivor was just a knight, and danse was a paladin. Why would they delete a new knight instead of a trusted paladin?

@@maddiemadeline not the BoS deleted. the institute have deleted.

@@MokokoMokoko So then the institute knew that the sole survivor is coming after them? So why would the institute let the sole survivor stay if they knew he/she was against them

@@maddiemadeline the Institute has no idea. It's Father's secret project. The only way Father's project would work is if it's kept secret from everyone, including the sole survivor. The secret dies with Father.

Nick is proof that your theory is wrong, because he has the memories of someone who he was not. Also if you kill danse is a synth and he remembers being a kid so yeah. They can plant memories. Same with synth shaun

in other words Trenton, Nick and Little Shaun have replicated memories, just like Danse (as in this corroborates Zephyr Sean's first point)

1. Memory is relevant as a typical human should have memories of their life before the bombs dropped, however a synth SS would only have the memories that are deemed necessary to give it purpose (to begin searching for their child) once it's released from the cryo chamber. 2&3. Father tells you how this was "his experiment" to see what would happen, giving you free will and the ability to choose what is right or wrong, to see what you would do, was an important part of this (Nick Valentine also has the ability to rebel etc) 4. Haven't played Far Harbour yet so I don't know what you're referring to

Why would they make a Synth able to rebel, lead, and even destroy them? Arrogance. Simply arrogance and "Father" certainly has more than enough to risk it.

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Unless he didn't have a recall code, because Father wanted this Synth to as human as possible.

Foxbunny Vulapine well I think that using vats before is error. And why will institute use vats which is vaultech technology? And of Nora killing courser, that happens in all fallout games,we magically get combat skills. In fallout 3 we are 19 year boy who kills supermutants and deathclaws for breakfast.

Shantanu Shinde We should be careful to not conflate game mechanics with story. You take a shot to the head and require surgery at the beginning of NV (story), but can be shot repeatedly in the head thereafter and can sleep it off (game mechanics). As to the VATS issue--absolutely. We don't know if the VATS decision is an oversight or a clue. Changing when the SS finds the PipBoy would resolve the problem immediately. Issue a PipBoy with the vault suit: Problem solved. When you receive the PipBoy is part of the story, as is when the VATS mechanic is activated (you cannot use VATS before being unfrozen). As far as why the Institute would use VATS--why reinvent the wheel? They developed the synths from existing technology (robots), after all. The difference I see with Coursers is that supermutants and deathclaws are regularly killed by BoS, Raiders, and even average wastelanders. Coursers, on the other hand, are are nigh invincible--there is no record of a Courser being taken down by anyone. While the average wastelander or former vault resident is shown to be capable of developing the skills to defend themselves from supermutants and deathclaws, nobody can take down a Courser. Remember how shocked Ayo is that a Courser has been killed. I still find the fact that the SS talks to DIMA about not having memory from before the war significant. One of the strongest themes in the game has to do with questioning what is real and what it is to be human. The question of whether or not the SS is a synth is not as important as the fact that either answer to the question is consistent with the theme of the game. Consider the convergence of Curie's and Nick's stories. Think of what Deacon says about reality versus appearance. Consider the fact that after breaking in, reclaiming (or killing) one synth, and helping with one more reclamation mission (through with you can thoroughly betray the institute), you are appointed (not offered the position of) Director of the Institute.Of course, it's really a matter of interpretation.

well you say Courser is invincible, but he/she are not. i had more hard time killing that mirelurk queen at castle than the course, he was medium difficult. The thing is that people have psychological fear, same we they have with anything related to institute. The fact is most of the people who can defeat courser like bos etc have never confronted. and most importantly, if we are synth, and still under institute control, why dont they shut us down when we blow it up? and also why would they make a synth director if we side institute, also there is no record of us being synth in the institute while there is record all others. and SS has lots of memory before war, Silver Shroud, baseball, life before war, etc.

Note: "Nigh invincible" does not mean "invincible." "Nigh invincible" means "nearly invincible." And I'm not saying that the Sole Survivor being a synth is correct; I'm saying that the player character being a synth is thematically consistent with the game and has evidential support. To the other points: The purpose of the Synth program was to advance humanity. This is a recurring theme in the Fallout games. It's just as was attempted with the FEV. If you are a Synth, you would be the perfect director--immortal and unchanging; following Father's will after he is gone; continuing the work of the Institute forever. Appointing a synth who was designed to become the next director to that position makes much more sense appointing a human met mere days before. The Institute has secrets. Only Father knows why the FEV program has continued beyond its apparent usefulness, for example. It's not unreasonable, then, that there could be a secret synth program to create a new Director. If this is the case, your recall code may be unknown or may not exist at all. Consider that Chase in Acadia is a rogue Courser. Why not just shut her down or relay her back to the institute and do a mind wipe? Why does nobody mention rogue Coursers? The Institute is compartmentalized and there is a degree of control over what information leaves a department or transitions between people. As far as the SS's memory, consider Sturgess. He tells about things his father said growing up. But he didn't grow up--he's a synth. It could be that the memories of a real person named Sturgess were copied and implanted (as we see with Nick). Maybe the same happened to the Sole Survivor. Memory is another big theme in this game. What is a real memory? The fact that Nick has pre-war memories does not mean he is not a Synth, but he does comment on the quality of the memories being different from those after he awoke outside the institute. And what about Danse? Honestly, if it were possible to find information about every in-game synth while you are inside the Institute, I would be happy to admit that the SS synth theory is implausible. Of course, it is not possible to find this. In addition to the compartmentalization of the Institute, information control is an integral part of storytelling. Sometimes things are implied. Other times they are left up to interpretation. Fallout 4 is so much more interesting as a story because of the possibilities left open by the narrative. Your character might be a synth. This is completely possible. Evidence exists for this possibility, but there is also evidence against it. Exploring how these different interpretations change the story is beautiful.

The character isn’t a synth and there are loads of reasons. First being the BoS questline, when Quinlin finds out that Danse is a Synth, if the sole Survivor is a synth it would also be somewhere in their data and would have suffered the same fate as Danse. Secondly, the Safe test in Covenant, if you pass your human, and if you fail your a synth, the sole Survivor passed meaning he’s human. Also Father says synths are tools, so if the character is a synth why would he make the sole Survivor the leader? Makes no sense That alone is enough to convince me that the sole Survivor isn’t a synth

ahmd Gamer dang

ahmd Gamer i would have enjoyed the game way more and it’s my favourite game

Paladin Danse is a synth and doesn’t shut down when you say it if he’s your companion atm. I think the codes are for different lines of synths rather than universal. There are more than one recall code in fallout.

I would wager a true substituted synthetic would have either a far more complex recall code, or none at all.

That's a very dangerous concept you are hastily throwing around... take care, for many minds have been blown already with your above comment.

Or maybe the "old man" kellog refers to is father and Shaun is the little boy that you must take care of after you side with the institute and everyone was somehow convinced to say father is your son

@oxhorn

I've always found it odd that almost everyone instantly accepts that Father is Shaun just on his word. Now please keep in mind that I haven't actually played FO4, as I don't have any hardware even remotely capable of running it, and as such haven't been able to directly examine the evidence. I have watched several Lets plays of the game and haven't seen or heard anything in the game dialog or terminal files which prove conclusively that Father is Shaun, but have found many things which lead me to doubt Father's word on the matter. Which leads to the question, what happened to the real Shaun. While it is possible, even likely that he was simply disposed of after the synth project proved to be a success, there is another still darker possibility. The Gen-3 Project wasn't the only project which was looking for uncorrupted human DNA. In Virgil's lab there is a document on one of the terminals IIRC where one of the scientists involved in FEV research was lamenting that they couldn't get ahold of clean DNA for the project. Well the Institute did in fact have some uncorrupted DNA available to them. Shaun. So what if after the success of the Gen-3 Project, young Shaun was handed over to the FEV research team. There is evidence that children were used as test subjects, toys and such in the cells and what could have been a pet cat. Fallout canon going all the way back to FO1 has shown that pure strain human DNA yields better results with FEV than your typical wastelander trash. There are two Supermutants which come to mind as being smarter than average in the game. There is the one in far harbor who sells dogs, it's name escapes me unfortunately, and there is Strong. So it is possible that the Sole-Survivor did in fact find his son, but never realized it. Could Shaun be Strong?

I doubt that, the boy at the end is quite obviously a synth. We tragically can't check without being able to murder kids (thanks Bethesda) I think it's safe to assume Oxhorn's profiling of Father as a character. Perhaps he feels close to you, despite not being your actual son as guilt for killing your Shaun, he wants to repent for the thing's he's done. It's also possible he has an obsession with the Soul Survivor and takes Shaun's place to satisfy his own lack of a father. My theory fits quite well aside from a few things 1. The department heads. After the death of father they don''t have much of a reason not to tell you the truth. one explanation is that they don''t know, Father may have done work on little shaun in secret. 2. Kellog's house in Diamond city. I remember one character offhandedly remarking that he house had been abandoned for quite some time. This can be explained with the institute's teleporter, If nobody sees Kellog leaving and coming home they think he must have left, right? 3. Gen 3 Synths. I don't personally know who developed them, if a scientist who did work is still alive his relative age would be telling of when it happened. He would need to be older than father (quite old, actually) in order to show that it is possible that Father is Shaun. What needs to be found to disprove my idea is some definitive evidence that Kellog's memories are from the past

You have a good point.. There's nothing wrong with having some form of cannon, though. I know they're completely different platforms, but I was watching someone play Ocarina of Time once, and I thought it was cool that you could name your character whatever you wanted, even though everyone knows his actual name is Link...

Yeah for once they let us roleplay a little

you earn a sweetroll XD

Here's the thing, not having a choice to speak about childhood memories doesn't automatically mean they don't exist. That isn't a strong case for Fallout 4 forcing a character. If anything, they just may not have considered that option.

Niobesnuppa or Bethesda forgot and left a major lore break

Oh now that leads to an interesting hypothesis. Would the institute give Kellogg cybernetics or just replace him with a synth during the operation?

Wr0ng W4y If they failed, and you killed them, you would find out, and think about hiw bad that would be for them, it's to riskey.

You were in the process of destroying them already. They had nothing to lose.

+Ben Bosley My thoughts exactly. They did it with that Raider Synth because he was a menace so why wouldn't they do it to you if you became a menace?

Wr0ng W4y It's highly possible that the only people privy to this knowledge were the director, and his replacement. Maybe not even Father/Shaun knew.

Ooh, good one Turnip. Maybe the previous director turned the SS into a synth and didn't tell Shaun.

No, you don't have access to VATS until you find the pipboy. You also can't slow or stop time without chems.

Hmmm. I may be wrong about this. Will need to take a second look.

I was referring to VATS when I said stop time

And you can use VATS after opening the overseer door and you enter the hallway full of radroaches, all before finding a pip boy

Actually you do have access to VATS before you get the pip boy, after unlocking the overseer exit tunnel you have to fight about 5 radroaches and it tells you go into vats then, you can go into vats and kill the radroaches, then after that you get to the vault door and find the pip boy on the arm of the scientist.

You can, minus the Institute... But the Institute is evil so I wouldn't even want them in my coalition, anyways.

if (day i was born = not human) { now = not human }

Farther could have easily created you as the first gen 4 synth. your brain, even if dead, is still frozen. He could have reconstructed it, or prehaps scanned it to a synth body. Another explanation is that father is a dying man wracked with regret. That's why he builds the experimental shaun. The institute already is known for being increably secretive even among its own members. He couldve have created you, believing he had created the first sentient synth, bestowing you the potential and skills to run the institute, not telling others in fear that they would not accept you. As an old man it is suspicious he gives control of the institute to us. Surely hed want to give it to someone skilled that he could trust, unless he already preprogramed those skills into us.

He could just decide to make synthetic soul survivor leader of the institute...to use his own words."to see what would happen"

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@@sanguinespirit2397 tho father is smart I doubt he can make that project alone even the child Shaun synth project was heavily debated among his staff plus there’s a lot stuff the SS remembers like the silver shroud which father wouldn’t know at all and plus there’s should be archives about such project

@@sanguinespirit2397 all gen 3 synths are sentient if the railroad decides to memory ripe them

Father was a baby at the time, but it’s also possible that the memories came from him, considering all the ones the player references involve him and what he could’ve seen or heard.

sleeper cell events? I only say this cuz I’m not very prewar fallout lore knowledgeable and it feels like it’s an unknown memory when you mention it in dialogue. Kinda like when I talked to Bruce Issac or whatever in FNV with no prior knowledge of Reno lol

@@nopressure6986 Codsworth was present for the prewar section up to running for the vault.

You have vats due to the pip boy. Every character in the fallout universe you play as in Bethesda games has vats. Also in fallout 76 the Institute didn't even exist , or I don't think they did, and yet your character has vats.

I just started a new game and realised that i use vats before I get the pip boy. You might be right my friend.

Pip boy

that would mean the lone wanderer is a synth really which is impossible because he was in a vault for half of his life and also when you are in the vault you can use vats and the lone wanderer was only outside for litteraly a few months im guessing and synths dont age

@@flamingwaffle__6164 Bethesda game design

Thats very plausible. One of the best theory I've heard thus far, and would make sense, seeing as most of the role playing elements were taken out of Fallout 4.

Hmm…that for one, interesting.

Yeah, that will make sense. It could also be that in the first draft of the story you would have been a synth but, at time gone on, they change the story to the final ne were you aren't a synth, but some aspects of that story were keept.

This is a game where you have to do your own roleplaying. It means you can't rely on the developer telling you what you must do, you have to do it yourself. It's like D&D, where you get to control your own character rather than having the DM pull your marionette strings.

That is what I thought when DiMA said it.

Dem cheeks doh

Wait if all synths are made from shauns DNA does that mean its incest?

@@horribleperson9531 oh no

This is Boston, not Alabama

@@horribleperson9531 No. The Institute needed Shaun's non-mutated genetic code to use as basically a "blueprint" for how to create *artificial* DNA, artificial DNA they could manipulate as they please. This is why there are synths of various ethnicities regardless of what the Sole Survivor him/herself is. Magnolia is no more closely related to the Sole Survivor than any other random wastelander. Synths aren't clones unless they're specifically designed to be, like with Shaun and Mayor McDougnah.

You're not a synth because radiation can harm you

i didn't take the institute path but i do believe i heard oxhorn say they could read his memories and tranplant it into the synth.

as Dima states, that could all just be a false memory.

But meeting the vault tec rep reinforces the legitimacy of the memory.

necridos bro they didin't creat you out of nowhere your identity existed until institude kills you in cyro sleep then replaces you with a synth

memory den?

Lmao I just finished playing through all 3, love the reference

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Made me really chuckle ;D Great - work. Thx man!

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I love the bioshock reference

Maybe it could be because the sole survivor is a new model synth. A gen 4 synth. No reset code. And able to choose their own solutions for problems. But the institute didn’t think the sole survivor would choose to solve the institute problem by destroying them. And by the time they realize it it was to late to stop him/her. After all if a tyrant keeps killing people even after capturing and punishment doesn’t work… kill the tyrant and the problem is solved for good.

N O'Toole hmmm have you tried that?

There's no way Bethesda would actually put a synth component or label the main character a synth. How would you find that in normal play? Besides, isn't the evidence enough. It's a highly plausible theory with not a single hole that can't be debated.

GamePile: My method of checking is completely sound logic and really the only truthful way to know. You talk about how Bethesda would not put a synth component on your character as there is no way in normal game play you would find it. To counter this argument I put to you the case of Sturges, in normal game play you could never find out he is a synth but he is. We know this only because of methods outside of normal game play, ie. console commands where we can make him non-essential and kill him and find he has a synth component on death. Why would Bethesda make a character you can't normally kill drop a synth component when killed? The logic is if they did that for Sturges why would they not do the same for you if you are a synth.

Srithor: My case is based on logic as Fallout 4 is a computer game and as such works on inflexible rules dictated by codes and scripts. Your suggestion is more grounded in the ideology of the Fallout world where humans and synths are interchangeable. When you summon a duplicate of a character in FO4 that duplicate is an exact copy of the original character down to race (including human or synth), appearance, sex, factions etc. etc. Although I have not tried it, I am 100% sure that if you made Sturges non-essential and then summoned a duplicate of him and killed that duplicate it would also be a synth and have a synth component. There is no way the game would summon a human version of Sturges and thus again the same rules apply to your character.

What are you talking about. His reasoning is perfectly solid.

Pablo Emilio Escobar Gaviria because SS is THE G.O.A.T

THATS FALLOUT 3 DICKBAG

well there is the safe test at covenant, that is based on the goat test.

The Gorgonopsid Games well it's based on it and it's called SAFE not GOAT

XxJAB105xX they still have a goat test in fallout 4 that has the same questions dickbag

TheCommentator AB beautiful... just beautiful.

... This is why you, and everyone like you, is a fucking slave

The deathclaw that isn't hostile is the father :p

if he was a death claw then he would be a chameleon btw the death claw is a mutated chameleon that has lost its ability to camouflage

TheCommentator AB lol

Eric Olesky with the sole survivor as a base, that seems more than feasible... unless he's a synth.

For the average wastlander, the tech, and the knowledge to use it is hard to come by. Also the DNA is just used as a base, and recombined to form the bodies of the people they are meant to resemble. To get a truely accurate DNA match, they would have to know Father is DNA Prime, and have to be in possession of his DNA for comparison, The only people I could see doing anything with that knowledge would be The doc from covenant, BOS, or Virgil

They don't have the same DNA. They use the DNA of father as their base, and then they have the DNA of a host spliced on top of it. Besides, how are normal people suppose to get ahold of a DNA lab and Father's DNA in the commonwealth??

No. No DNA test in fallout. :D

at 0:00 - Title - Fallout 4 Far Harbor DiMa's big Question. the so called "is the player character in fallout 4 really a synth? " Personally I think that The player character is a synth, this would explain god mod, your able to go without eating or sleeping like you need to on survival and carry capacity is also infinite cause you can shrink items into pocket size even if they are Liberty prime scale mini- nukes which weigh about 5 thousand pounds like you could in legend of Zelda, they they showed on the Super Mario Brother super show, but only it would be shrinking them down to pocket item size with advance institute technology rather than the magic in the fantasy worlds of the legend of Zelda series. . You can shrink down every thing, so you could carry like 20,000 units or more of objects and fit in your pocket instead of 260 to 360 units of things like in survival mode. I think i seen one play tester go 30,000 units but i cant remember for sure. Playing the game in the god mode is basically playing the game in Synth Mode. The first time i played the game i wanted to do every thing with the god mode so i was a synth the first two play thoughs Joker Jamison and Mad Thrasher Murphy, but im my third play hough im going human and my name is only Joe cause i know that Cogsworth knows Joe casue it was told on the Angry Joe show long before i bought the game and first began playing it on June 30th 2016.. So i knew he was going to be aloud to say Joe but the thing is he also Knows how to say Joker and Mad as your name. I think Cogsworth is clearly "in on this whole player character is really a synth scam in a way" "cause he always knows to call you by your first name no mater what it is, and this is clearly only possible with advanced technology like the Institute, becasue none of the other Mr and Mrs, and Handy , Gutsy or Nanny as type will behave this advanced like Cogs worth, clearly Cogsworth as some sort of advanced programing, only Curie comes slightly close this high level of advancement this Cogsworth had I think that this also gives more evidence that the Player character is a synth, even the game maker himself said hes still thinking about it leaving it open, why cant it be one of the fictional RPG things that is really cannon in the real version that your a synth, i just dont see the big deal on the year since the game and not knowing the answer, its been over 30 years and we still donk know the name of the alieans in space invaders. video game lore needs answering its a thing so game authors got lots to tell if the want to keep expanding there various video game universe., but regardless i personally feel that in the cannon verson the game player really was a synth the whole time it also answers why the player character is always the leader of each of the major factions regardless of even if its the raiders except for the disciples like gang found in the old Belcher Cave which i still have not beat yeat casue its got 3 quests. i only beat the first one i didnt get the robot fighter one or the "Like a goodneaghbor" Quest which is the one where you got to get your sneak ability on or you lose so im not beated the Lost Tales from the Commonwealth mod yet, gamestops sells games with quest for about $1.00 per quest so i know theres about 11 quest in the mod but i beat a few already, but im not sure if you can become the over boss of the Belcher cave raiders that looked like the disciples but you could become the leader of the mechanist dudes too from Automatron but the robots still dont recognize you, but in star control 2 you could tell the slylandro to transmit the shut down on sub-hyperspace coms, so eentually all of the Melnorme fun rom probes get shut down, Why cant the rebelling Automatron Robots ever get shut down with a turn them all off could as in Star control 2 with the Melnorme Probes? i mean really that would be very helpful n Fallout 4"

One, synth components only appear after death. And Two, there is no evidence that synths need to have a component for anything but being reprogrammed. A synth designed to not be reprogrammed or have a kill code might not have one. and Three I am well aware this comment is a joke and not meant to be taken seriously.

łøne wãñderéŕ could be an old list...

łøne wãñderéŕ I have to agree, the fact they have those records would show the sole survivor as a synth. If s/he was one. Though maybe they were constructed 'under the table' sorta speak. I feel they left it open for the player to decide.

That's what I was thinking too

łøne wãñderéŕ That makes sense...

Nope, not at all. If the Lone Wanderer IS a synth, Father is likely the only one aware of it, and he likely intentionally hid it form the rest of the institute. Because if he hadn't, then other people in the institute would let it slip when you side with them,

I like your theory it stands as it is, and is hearth touching.

Fellow Traveller what do you think cryogenic freezing would do to a synth? Would it destroy it, freeze it or not work at all?

I feel like it would be something like what they did with Nick Valentine, personally.

Fellow Traveller That kinda goes with something Kellogg says. He said he didn't think a soft pre war person could survive in the harsh wasteland. The SS being a synth could explain why they have such a big impact on the world. We saw what the raider synth Gabriel could do with raiders by his side, a synth SS accompanied by different companions and factions could impact the Commonwealth greatly.

Fellow Traveller Tldr

Not true. Synths do take rad damage.

***** they are immune to rad damage look it up or try to kill a curser with a radgun yourself it doesnt work

All I know is synth settlers die from rad damage. You can also damage and kill other synths in the game, like Magnolia and Sturges, with a rad gun.

Nearly Evil 665 true

***** arent they both essential?

Exactly

And he remember graygarden from tv

@Genghis Khan how did they get that memory in the first place

@The Nova renaissance dont forget about *GrayGarden*

There’s also the memory den which proves technology like that exists

Good point

He stoopihd

You can go back after everything chill there and the final judgment is just laying on a pile of rubble. But how can you leave a full set of T60f power armor?