Is the Trent Alexander-Arnold Experiment over?! - TFFI England vs Denmark Reaction! 

It was odd werent it looked like they were about to walk out to training. Not one of the biggest games of their lives. Probably have 2 or three of these tournaments if your lucky epitomised the performance didn't it. Probably after a lacklustre half time team talk by Southgate

@@Jimmybringsit I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought it

And the reactions at full time, at least two of them just laid out on the deck. They looked like they'd lost a final

Social media has turned them u to a bunch of nervous wrecks. Fumbling the simplest of tasks. Get the young kids on who don't give a f**k. Wharton Mainoo Palmer

@@Jimmybringsit Agreed

Facts

Nah that's just what watching Southgate football does to you.

Hes got no balls. We could have ripped Italy a new one with raw pace alone and won the euros.

We do attack, but our game plan is disjointed. So there are problems that need addressing. Let's see if Gareth can get it right for Slovenia.

YEP thought the exact same thing

How do they not fact check that?

@@fluteisland Because its not a big deal, its not fully scripted and people are allowed to get the order of penalty takers wrong from a game 4 years ago.

@@ellisridley9588 not scripted? he's literally reading the questions and answers off a piece of paper.... the point of any quiz it to answer correctly. Fact checking the answer to a question is the bare minimum

@@fluteislandhaha, good response

I wouldn't even want this manager at my League 1 club to be fair

Still has the best England tournament record of any manager in the last fifty years.

YOU SHOULD COMPLETE your timeline.

Exactly I’ve never understood why people are confused why we can’t win anything under him he has never been a good coach/manager it’s almost like we don’t want to win anything and if he stays after this tournament you can kiss goodbye to seeing England win anything for a long long time

Did he get England to fourth place in Russia in 2018 and the Euro Final in 2021 by accident? Yes, his time is very likely up. But unqualified as he is, he’s got a very good record as England manager.

​@anthtan Check his record against the top 10 countries

@@goldie8501 ...is irrelevant.

Yes they always think they are the only ones who have top class players. 😂😂😂

I think that 9 of the Danish squad play in the Premier league but would not make the England squad.

Fair point, but they do sit back after scoring.

You would think…. You’d in he would try the formation he wanted to play in the tournament in the friendlies too but he didn’t… useless

The linesman disallowed the goal and the VAR didn’t overturn it, it literally has nothing to do with Taylor

Anthony Taylor isn't the linesman

it was Stuart Atwell who has previous.

@@murrayyyy3799 They're a team and they exist in a culture of fear and intimidation. Nobody ever questions the calls after they are made, didn't even go to look at the monitor because they all back up each other's shit decisions. Suppose it's just English refs in general though, should not have them anywhere near the knockout stages.

​​@@murrayyyy3799didn't Taylor walk up to the linesman, have a chat, then the flag went up? (I might be misremembering) The linesman put his flag up late because he probably couldn't tell if the player was in the way of the goalie, the ref didn't make a decision because he left it to the linesman, then they had a chat and decided to call it offside. Seemed a bit messy to me. I think this was one of those "clear and obvious" cases and if the ref/linesman makes a decision the VAR would always go with on field decision, so it does fall on Taylor's shoulders IMO.

i don't understand why the manager is not criticised... 8 years and no style of play. Talks nonsense in interviews. Come on... lets call a spade a spade. GS is not good enough to manage these players.

They all matey matey with the manager that why these and the pundits wont criticise him.

Not a fan of southgate but there are plenty of managers that have failed at the england job.

You can’t win with a manager who mentality is try not to loose instead of let’s try to win

These players are not as good as you think Deschamps ain't exactly world class definitely not argentina coach English players are overrated

Yes!! Captains have to tell coach that they can do more!! Not sure how that works in that squad though.

I think its 'too many plans' with Southgate waffling away in the Team Talks.

Oh you noticed it too? I thought Kane looked up for it (although the performance that followed was awful). But Jude, well, he didn't look pumped at all. He had a face like a slapped arse during the pre-match national anthems. Those players are definitely listening to the criticism on social media and most looked like they didn't want to be there.

It happens at every single tournament with England, the players can't cope with the pressure and end up heavy legged always.

No, this is the first tournament under Southgate where it’s happened.

Toney in a counterattacking team? Hes extremely slow too, Kane played on the counter for years under Jose and Conte too of course he can do it, just needs runners around him like Sterling Rashford Gordon

Spain and Portugal you mean. Germany should have lost to Switzerland.

Good point

You mean watching germany without kroos you people can't help overeating English average players 🙄 England is NOT germany and never will be

@@JuniorSmith-zw7pdthat’s not what they’re saying. They’re saying Germany were a mess before Nagelsmann for a while (we all watched the World Cup and that wasn’t solely down to Kroos) and now they have a competent manager who is getting the best out of the players he has.

@@kd5973 exactly. Thank you

​@@JuniorSmith-zw7pdyou're very angry. I recall England knocked Germany out at the last Euros. It will probably happen again, after seeing how bad Germany were against Switzerland.

its not the players its the Manager

​@joso7228 it can be both. Yes his tactics were shit but he isn't to blame for players not being able to complete a simple pass. I doubt he's instructing the players to not show or make space for each other. That's on the players to do basic things.

can you imagine the scenes. Even for the Denmark game I rolled my eyes. Soutgate is far too passive.

Watch him make the most random change, like putting bowen in left back

Feels like Southgate wants to appease the crying Liverpool fans, because if you take him as a right back, he will never play in this current model

@@JigsawLV It's actually wild not playing one of the best RBs in world football at RB.

​@@JigsawLVliverpool fans think playing trent in midfield is hilarious, klopp refused to do it and theres a reason why. southgate is a clown for that

​@GoGetMarked to be fair, he does. Walker is a better RB than trent. He's just scared to drop him so tries to shoehorn him into the squad in some way, even if its clearly not working.

@@MattMajcan we don't think its hilarious it makes us sad, trents whole thing is creating an overload in midfield by moving up from rb and pressing, and as soon as we win the ball he has runners, he's never played in a completely open midfield 3 with nothing to aim for on the left wing, with a striker who doesn't run in behind. also joe gomez is a lb he's played there all season, he isn't scared to use his left foot and he's probably quicker than trippier, overlaps loads more than him on that side.

Gallagher getting a yellow so quickly completed defeated the point of bringing him on. He was jumping out of challenges towards the end because he was so scared of picking up a 2nd yellow the wally.

@@JT-ut2we exactly, now I’m not saying Trent should be starting in midfield but I certainly wouldn’t be using him as a scapegoat. Trent has the ability to play there, he’s just a novice in that position when it comes to the elite level. I know he played there in the academy etc I think when he understands the positional sense to it and what’s required of him. He could definitely play there.

Fundamentally if we are playing somebody in a position they are unfamiliar with and they aren’t excelling… that is on the manager.

Solution - don’t play Trent as a midfielder because he’s not one. Spamming Hollywood balls like Beckham tried when he went in there . Not his fault . Playing Foden out of position. No Left Back .

Solution - don’t play Trent as a midfielder because he’s not one. Spamming Hollywood balls like Beckham tried when he went in there . Not his fault . Playing Foden out of position. No Left Back . No bravery we’re coming home Get brave England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

England were simply playing rubbish as a team and you were not good enough to exploit that

@@joso7228 But then England is always playing rubbish? Because they’re never playing as a team.

Well said no I in team

so much commentary has centred on Trent's inclusion, despite the fact he's been subbed off in both games, with no notable improvement after the substitution. If Trent was the issue, then the 40 odd minutes in the second half against Denmark would have been plenty of time to rectify the situation. Why talk about one player when clearly the problems are all over the pitch. it's baffling that so many quality players seem to lose their composure on the international stage. Is Southgate to blame? I don't know, I just know that focussing on Trent is a red herring.

Clueless. This is why the eye test is important and not to just plainly look at stats. He is one of many problems but him in particular had a knock on effect. 3 'chances' weren't clear cut chances on goal either, you cant just read off the stat sheet and announce this like it justifies his selection there, its not a good reflection at all. It is disingenous of the quality of said 'chances'. It's not Trents fault lets be clear. It's SG playing him there in the first place and he is so uncomfortable there, he doesn't know where to be and how to effectively play there on both sides of the ball, it showed, and it has a knock on effect. To try get a player in just because he can knock a good long ball here and there, is so absurd af the cost of a balnce in the middle, lack of defensive protection as a pairing from CM, and giving up the ability to control the middle of the park going forward. All things that dont show up on the stat sheet and all things that was obvious in watching. Again' those 3 'chances' didn't create decent goal scoring opportunities, but they go down as a tick in the box of what qualifies as one in that category. Anyone leading with this stat as a defense of his selection there isn't looking at the game and how bad of a decision it was him being there. The best time for him to be effective in that role SG wanted was when the front 3 were changed and had better willing runners in behind, but he was taken off! Still, it isnt worth sacrificing everything else that came with him playing there. And just to reiterate, thats not Trents fault, its dire management on Southgates part

@@_SIRenity_ fine, but why no change after he's subbed off then?

@rogerwhite4073 I did say he's one of many problems in the side. The majority lays at SGs door, whether it be mental, tactical, and selection. Having an experiment when in a tournament is mental, and unfair to put that pressure on Trent. And you cant bring on a Gallagher for added energy in the middle, hes not bringing any more control in there which is part of what we needed, but was less of a liabiliy and didnt need babysitting by those around him, which were more isolated beforehand and made them nervous. Not the first and only problem we have by far like I said, but I'd like to say Rice is great reading defensivley and getting a foot in - THAT IS IT. He lacks everything else to be a 6. Sure, looks great at a West Ham when the team sits back, but not in a ball dominating side. Even Arteta realised that and has him in a more progressed role with Jorghino next to him as insurance - but the latter can dictate play and os good on the ball. And with Rice as an 8, if we were to play him there as has now been suggested, particularly at international level, there's plenty better than him, especially on other talented teams in the middle of the park. He isn't quick enough mentally, isnt quick enough on the ball, isn't cute enough on the ball, and isn't technically gifted. He's slowly being found out and quite overrated. Oh and Saka has another level he needs to get to - 1 assists for England in the actual tournaments is effing dire (not counting qualifiers we near always breeze through). Can he do A job there? Yes o course, but it won't be World beating, that's for sure. He's outclassed in every department as a 6 when comparing other top talented teams 6's. Even some who are coming off their bench. In short, that central pairing stunk the place out and caused a complete disconnect from back to front. Adding Trent to that mix is an effing joke

No players running in for Trent to pas too he can and has won everything as a Rb make the runs he will put it on a dime highest assists stats consistently for Liverpool had cover wen he attached and has a hell of a shot on him scape goat not used in the build up games stick runners on by pass the oppositions players one pass faster progression

Pretty harsh calling Southgate a mental obstacle

Correct but it’s also the better foreign players they are playing with . Kane does not really press though

Unless it’s Argentina

If your manager told you and your coworkers to do whatever you wanted you'd be paid for it too, you're just not gonna be very effective.

I do think they should play first, and think about the win (or loss) at the end of the game. Too much concern for winning means they do t even play the *actual* game of football that the fans want to watch. Seems quite simple - yet so difficult 😞

Spot on son u couldn't make it up

Yep it’s been like this since 2021 the reason England actually lost to France in the World Cup 2022 is the fullbacks not providing enough because the midfielders couldn’t find and space to create Bellingham only is not good enough 2-1 and he decided to stick with walker because walker is overrated by the media were Trent gets slated every minute

Still waiting for the interviews from the other fullbacks who are bang average

@@salemalsubaie9515 walker should only be used tactically against dangerous players like mbappe. Why Southgate loses his bottle against poor opposition and is scared to play trent right back is embarrassing. Liverpool have won every trophy in world football with trent as a right back 🤦‍♂️

@@aidanmackin4183 the thing is Kyle walker got distroyed by every winger in the premier league this season no one uttered a word about it

Yes your absolutely right. It goes even further back than that even the final against italy we lost we did it too.

Been doing this B's since middlesborough

Pacemakers all round

Well again... thats the Manager' fault

@@joso7228 good comments, we play too slow and predictable, when the other team has good defensive shape, you need some magic, by skill or movement. To create, you cant just play predictable passes and expect to get through.

he doesn't play in a midfield 3, he plays as a rb who moves up to overload the midfield, always has done, unless stones is gona push up its not going to work, so play a back 4 with a lb at lb (gomez), gordon on the lw, stones n walker in the middle, trent rb moving up to overload, gomez stones and walker can hold it down at the back against the majority if we're dominating midfield.

Trent doesn't play like a right back,he plays like a right wing back

Well individually its true. Those individuals play for teams of a much lesser quality. Hojberg was outstanding that game and plays for Spurs and is wanted out by all Spurs fans because he’s normally useless. 😂

@@TYLOTYLOTYLO he’s not useless because he plays for a top 5 team in the supposed best league in the world. Ericksen is a better footballer than anyone in englands midfield including Bellingham. Slovakia’s midfield will outplay englands next week just watch…

@@TYLOTYLOTYLO imaging getting outplayed by so-called useless(players) against paper tiger team like an England at the moment.

@@TheWallethead first, Eriksen isn't better than Belligham, and second. Slovakia can't beat us because they're not in our group, it's Slovenia, maybe check your facts before mouthing off

@@KhaosOP check your comprehension skills, I did mean Slovakia and that was an error but I said their midfield will outplay englands not that they’d win the match. Also, there is a possibility England can play Slovakia on Sunday.

Saw watto too

Like him or not that was Jack's specialty, holding and moving the ball while dragging players over the way Saka does.

You an sit back deep and set up counters OR pass around deep to control the game. But Southgate's England are clueless.

we need to overload the midfield with someone from defence instead of sacrificing a lw to do it and playing a rb at lb when we have gomez who plays there a lot and is good at it, we can't get stones to do it coz he's our only decent cb, so gomez lb/lcb, stones cb, walker rcb, trent rb, moving up to overload, gordon on the left, foden in the 10, bellingham in the 8.

John Stones does it every week for man.city

To run aimlessly is stupid.