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Anti-Trinitarian & Oneness adherent Steve McCalip debates Trinitarian Mark McNeil (former Oneness Pentecostal & member of the United Pentecostal Church) on whether the historic Christian concept of God is true or false. As the Athanasian Creed states, "We worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; neither confounding the persons, nor dividing the substance. For there is one person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost is all one; the glory equal, the majesty coeternal ... He therefore that will be saved must thus think of the Trinity." McCalip attacks the Trinity with practically every argument used by Jehovah's Witnesses, Muslims, Mormons & every other cultic sect known. Mark McNeil, however, is able to answer every argument Biblically proving why the doctrine of the Trinity has stood throughout time. Larry Wessels, director of Christian Answers of Austin, Texas/ Christian Debater (RU-vid channel: CANSWERSTV; websites: www.BIBLEQUERY.ORG, www.HISTORYCART... & www.MUSLIMHOPE.COM) produced & directed this debate.
When dealing with cultists who do not have the Holy Spirit within them through a "born again" experience as Jesus said must happen (John 3:3-8, 2 Corinthians 3:3) then you're dealing with people who have not the Spirit (1 Corinthians 2:14, Romans 8:7), who can't see the truth (2 Corinthians 4:3-4) & are in the snare of the devil UNLESS God grants them repentance for they cannot do it themselves (2 Timothy 2:24-26) because it requires a supernatural & sovereign act of God to free them (John 1:12-13, Ephesians 2:8-10). We can't talk or argue anybody into the kingdom of God by our own power but we can certainly debate the issues with the heretics who think they know God (Titus 1:9-16).
The Holy Spirit is given in a once in a lifetime occurrence called being "born again" (John 3:3-8), thus you are permanently sealed by the Spirit into Christ until the day of redemption (2 Corinthians 1:21-22, Ephesians 1:13-14, 4:30).
WHAT MAN'S WORKS 'CANNOT' DO:
1. SAVE - EPHESIANS 2:8-10, TITUS 3:5
2. JUDICIALLY JUSTIFY - ROMANS 3:27-31, 4:2
3. FORGIVE SIN - ROMANS 4:6-8
4. RECEIVE THE SPIRIT - GALATIANS 3:2
5. ELECT YOU TO SALVATION - ROMANS 9:6, 11:5-6
6. FULFILL THE LAW - ROMANS 8:3, JAMES 2:10
7. CALL - 2 TIMOTHY 1:9
8. GIVE YOU REGENERATION - JOHN 6:63, TITUS 3:5
9. OBTAIN FAITH - ROMANS 9:32
10. KEEP ONE SAVED - 1 CORINTHIANS 3:15
Works manifest that a person is a professing Christian (Matthew 7:20, 12:35, James 2:18) & express a new life in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) but they DO NOT earn salvation with the God of Heaven (Galatians 2:16, Ephesians 2:15, Romans 10:4, Isaiah 64:6), get it? If you believe your works earn heaven then you are cursed by having a different gospel than the one the Bible preaches (Galatians 1:6-9).
Where the God of the Bible, the blessed Trinity is found in Scripture:
1. INCARNATION OF JESUS - LUKE 1:35 (ALL THREE)
2. BAPTISM OF JESUS - MATTHEW 3:16-17 (ALL THREE)
3. GREAT COMMISSION - MATTHEW 28:19 (ALL THREE)
4. DOXOLOGY - 2 CORINTHIANS 13:14 (ALL THREE) SEE ALSO: GAL. 3:11-14, 1 PETER 1:1-2, 1 THESS. 5:18-19
5. RESURRECTION OF JESUS - FATHER RAISED JESUS - ACTS 3:26, 1 THESS. 1:19 JESUS RAISED HIMSELF - JOHN 2:19-21, JOHN 10:18 HOLY SPIRIT RAISED JESUS - ROMANS 8:11, 1 PETER 3:18
6. CREATION OF THE WORLD - FATHER - PSALM 1003, NEHEMIAH 9:6 SON - COLOSSIANS 1:16-17 HOLY SPIRIT - JOB 33:4, JOB 26:13, GENESIS 1:2
7. EACH PERSON OF THE TRINITY IS ETERNAL- FATHER - PSALM 93:2 SON - MICAH 5:2, ISAIAH 9:6 HOLY SPIRIT - HEBREWS 9:14
8. ALL THREE HAVE INSPIRED SCRIPTURE - FATHER - 2 TIMOTHY 3:16 SON - 1 PETER 1 :10 HOLY SPIRIT - 2 PETER 1:21
9. ALL THREE ARE CALLED GOD - FATHER - 1 CORINTHIANS 8:6, JOHN 6:27 SON - JOHN 1:1, JOHN 20:28, HEBREWS 1:8, ROMANS 9:5 HOLY SPIRIT - ACTS 5:3-4
On the homepage of our www.BIBLEQUERY ORG there is a box to the left entitled, "Experience" & if you click on to that box & scroll down you'll find our newsletter section with one newsletter totally devoted to scriptural references to "The Trinity" (see also our newsletter on "Oneness Pentecostals" who also deny the Trinity). Church history (see our website www.HISTORYCART...) proves the doctrine of the Trinity was taught long before Council of Nicaea. The Trinity was established in Scripture long before any of these other entities arose. Once again to see our videos on the Trinity (including debates) on the internet simply type "LARRY WESSELS BIBLICAL DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY" in the RU-vid search box.
Part #2 of a 2 hour debate.
5 окт 2024