There's no evidence that the Bible is an inspired book from God. Dan explains this fact using scientific and historical data. So, what's to "debunk"? To get to the real reason Dan spends every waking hour fighting against any notion that God exists all one has to do is follow the $$$. He's a brand and getting increasingly famous online which ultimately lines his pockets. Dan just needs to thank the non existing God for his popularity and increased wealth. Yes, we know Dan,your heart is pure and only motivated by helping those who believe in a fairy tale. Signed, Benjamin Franklin
Even worse is the Australian muppet named Ken Ham who built a replica of Noah's ark in kentucky or Tennessee and declared it would be a financial success, yet it's floundering. In this exhibition of eccessive fantasy, he has prop exhibits that this museum of malady which melds all of the geological,anthropological and historical epochs of humanity.
Trying to bring DNA in to back up the virgin birth narrative is such a weird play to make. What they're basically claiming is that Jesus was genetically identical to Mary, which is in fact how parthenogenesis--real world virgin birth as found in species such as whiptail lizards--works. But they don't seem to get the obvious implication of that: anatomically female, XX-chromosome Jesus. (Big news for trans male representation if true.)
When I was a kid my Dad pointed out a tree and told me that when my Grandpa was riding home during a storm a lightning bolt had split the tree in half, my Grandpa then jumped his horse through the split only to have the two halves spring back together and close on his horse's tail. Sure enough the tree had a great split running down it with what looked like hair from a horse's tail coming out of it halfway up. For years as a kid I thought that story was 'really real' until I grew big enough to reach the 'hair' and discovered it was just some kind of grass growing from out of the split! Good one Dad 😁!
So the "proof" came first and your Dad made up the story to explain it. It's crazy to me that that possibility doesn't dawn on these people. Like, say one of these Biblical literalists heard a pagan claim that they know the great god Oogabooga is real because their holy book has a story about how Oogabooga turned someone into a tree in some particular forest, and sure enough there's a tree that looks kinda like a person in the middle of that forest. Surely the Biblical literalist would consider that some pagans might have found that vaguely humanoid tree way back in the day and *then* come up with a story about Oogabooga transforming somebody in order to explain the tree. It's obviously more likely that the purported evidence explains why the story exists than that the story correctly explains the evidence. But when it's the Bible, the more probable order of cause and effect just doesn't cross their mind.
I find it genuinely sad that this young man believes all this nonsense. Sad that he seems incapable of fact checking or even assessing probability for himself and sad that his religious beliefs require him to be gullible and happy to be so.
I know a lot of people who believe this stuff. Unfortunately, many of them were brainwashed from a very young age to believe that the Bible is 100% true, they weren't taught to think for themselves or to fact check, only to trust blindly and believe at all costs. And when you add the fear of hell in there, even the smallest doubts and questions in your mind can be terrifying to entertain. It's much easier, for some, to just go with it and to look for every reason you can come up with to keep your belief system as firmly in place as possible.
It’s so sad how anti-science and anti-knowledge evangelical Christians can be; it’s not surprising though, when you think the founding human story is one massive rant against people acquiring knowledge of some kind. The Bible continues its rant through so many texts into the New Testament, with Paul freaking out about the primacy of faith over human intellect, yet again. The biblical invective against intellectual pursuits-unless it’s in servitude of their narcissistic god, who wants all glory to him-is unfortunately baked into the pie.
As McClellan points out regularly, the Bible is a text, and the meaning of a text is produced by those who read it. And while there are certainly Christians, who interpret the Bible the way you describe, especially, but not exclusively, among US Bible belt preachers, people defintely do exist, who identify as Christian, but read those texts differently. McClellan himself would be one example of such a person. So, you can't really uphold the universality of your claim without going true scotsman, and declaring, that only the braindead ones are true Christians. Which isn't just a fallacy, but also a politically precarious statement, as it empowers dumb people over smart people within the factually existing Christian denomination..
@@stefanb6539 you missed the part where I point out evangelical Christians, who are those that hold to specific conservative faith claims and creeds-nowhere did I point to all Christians. Dan is a Mormon-not an evangelical; that’s one more data point that cuts in my favor.
@@hardwork8395 OK, yes, you make the distinction. But you kinda lose track of it when you characterize the most bigoted evangelical interpretation of the Bible as basically essential. Btw, I am afraid that I have to confess, that my main motivation for writing this was 90% based on a completely immature joy in nitpicking, and 10% inspired by enjoying your well-written rant and wanting to somehow react to it. Keep your nerd on, oh fearless keyboard sensei! 😁😁
Things on the "Bible is True" bingo card: Black top mountains = Mount Sinai Split rock formation The Euphrates drying up Strong's Concordance Feel free to add to this list
"When they tested the blood, they said it only had 24 chromosomes, and every human on this earth has 46 chromosomes." Why does the DNA of both Jesus and Mary have an extra chromosome (46/2 = 23)?😄😆😂🤣
Lot wouldn't have known what pillar she was, otherwise he would have been a pillar too! the story takes a crazy unexpected twist, but after Lots wife was turned to a pillar of Salt, Lot found shelter in a cave, where his two daughters got him drunk and had sex with him!
Well that's quite the collection of PRATTs. If you ever wonder how folklore becomes pseudo-history, you just witnessed it right here. It's amazing how confidently he spits out lie after ridiculous lie, each more absurd than the last.. Which is your favorite? For me, it's definitely the "chariot wheels in the Red Sea" - one of Ron's gems.
hilarious. i saw this on ig and just laughed. didn’t even bother to look up the claims cause it’s always the case that if you do just a liiiittle digging, it’s not hard to explain. and here you have it…
The issue is that many are looking for physical proof from a gospel that spiritual. Any of my spiritual experiences can't be proved to another because they didn't have the experience. And even if you had a group spiritual experience, only the group present could even claim it to be true. This is why we need to seek spiritual experiences for ourselves. Only some historical stuff can say certain things could be true physically, providing we have the right data. Thanks Dan, another good video.
I could have sworn we all have 23(46pairs) chromosomes. If someone had 24 chromosomes they either were rice or had some genetic anomaly like Down's syndrome.
Actually no, he did get that teeny tiny bit conceptually correct strangely. The human genome is 22 numbered chromosomes which we get duplicates of plus two sex chromosomes which can be duplicates (XX) or they can differ (XY). In rare cases we get more than that, but that's generally the standard set. Although the claim is still nonsense because he's saying that Jesus only got DNA from Mary... and yet still somehow had a Y chromosome. Why invent that he only had a single set of chromosomes 1 through 22? Just because I guess? It is theoretically possible he didn't have a Y chromosome and instead somehow had the male genes on the X chromosome activated independently (the Y chromosome really only serves to trigger specific genes on the X chromosome more easily), but I think that idea'd make him upset. And still wouldn't explain where the second sex chromosome came from. The TL;DR is: barring very unusual circumstances, 23 chromosomes would generally have made Jesus female. Hence the additional. From God. Who doesn't have any other kind of DNA apparently. He's just aaaaaaall Y chromosomes and denial of intersex people.
@@mrq6270 It's more that the goal of the claim conflicts with the reality of genetics, so if they'd claimed 23 chromosomes, he'd have to have been transgender, and that's why they claim 24 instead. To add in that Y. Genetic essentialism is often a part of Christian dogmas (part of the "God doesn't make mistakes, so you are your genes as God wrote you" bigotry), and according to dogma Jesus was a boy-Jesus, not a girl-Jesus or an inter-Jesus, so... by necessity they have to write in an exception to their own miraculous claim and make it one set of Mary's DNA plus a Y chromosome. Of course, because he didn't _explicitly_ mention the Y chromosome and rhetorically leaned on the idea that the genes had to come from Mary because unearthly father... we can always make fun of his claim that the DNA came from Mary by _saying_ it's two Xs with irregular gene expression. It's just that we also know why he said 24, and it's to be a dick.
I love the show Dan. Would you please talk about Ham being black (or his descendants) and the curse...and slavery notion surrounding this topic? Peace:)
It gets kind of depressing to see the same drivel repackaged and enthusiastically pumped out by a new new (under the) influencers. Thanks for doing what you do.
✌🏻 my friend.... I respect'ish the fact that you seem to know tons about the Bilble and the region\ geography\ accounts of the Bible. I want to make sure you contacted the people that made that video and asked their permission to have that on your channel. 💯💛💚✌🏻
The erosion of rocks can be caused by wind. Particles of dirt and sand can be picked up by the wind and blown past rock formations where the particles act as an abrasive and wear away rock. Lighter particles tend to rise higher while heavier particles tend to stay lower to the ground. Heavier particles tend to wear away material more quickly than lighter particles much like rougher, low grit sandpaper does to wood. We can sometimes see this process in nature where large rocks become precariously balanced upon a thin base. Much of the Middle-East is a desert with lots of dry dirt and sand. It would not surprise me at all if a split rock in the Middle-East had erosion from centuries of rock and sand blowing around.
For all this person thinks they know the Bible, the claim that Jesus was the only one without a father is ignoring the fable of Adam and Eve… The sad truth is most Christians don’t know the Bible as much as the ones who left the faith-there’s a reason most of us left…we knew it better than you.
@@byrondickens “Sez you” Ah yes, the robust intellectual responses from the poster-child of my post-complete with excellent spelling and emotion to drive my point succinctly home. To all people in the jury, I present exhibit A. I rest my case. I swear these aren’t paid actors. I swear!
@@hardwork8395 Bless your heart.... You people really are special. You are so intellectually superior that you can encounter a grand total of half a dozen people, watch three RU-vid videos and then magically know everything about what "all" Christians know and believe. Meanwhile, in the real world you're so simple-minded you can't even recognize a colloquialism when it smacks you in the face.
@@hardwork8395 You are still religiously deluded. Deluded into assuming that every religious person is the same fundamentalist caricature that you still are and that anyone who speaks seriously about religion or the Bible is religious.
Damn, how can someone make so many nonsensical claims and (apparently) not bother to check the legitimacy or veracity of any of them beyond "Yup! This sounds good to me". Totally foreign concept to me. I can't relate.
I saw the video with Irving Finkel, the arc before Noah. Every time I hear about the arc, my first reaction is: the arc was round. I saw it in a video. 😃
The problem is that the veracity of the Bible depends on the date. The Bronze Age part of the Bible is not historically accurate, but the Iron Age part has a lot of historical verified parts.
People who share these kinds of "evidence" strike me as ultimately disillusioned with what they've been told and taught regarding their faith, so they seek out any information which confirms their belief. You don't really need apologetic evidence unless you believe in other evidence in the first place. It's just sad that social media has made so much of it readily-available. [But it's also made genuine scholarly information available, too.]
@@Repent.Believe.obeyJesus So, do you think that dead people were physically strolling around Jerusalem? And if so, how did that work? Was it only the bodies that still had some connective tissue, or did it look like a Ray Harryhausen film with just the skeletons, or something else?
@Repent.Believe.obeyJesus I have a pretty open mind when it comes to other's beliefs, as long as they try to convert me. I don't really judge people on their beliefs, but on their character. Let me point out that you're making this judgment towards me by saying I am an ⚛️ While I am an atheist, it is still a bit uncalled for.
The worst apologetic I've heard is during the flood the slow animals died first and the fast ones that could outrun the water and get to higher elevation died last. That is how we got the layers of animal fossils.
"Reading is fundamental" Thanks to people who only read to confirm their biases, the above quote is less and less true every day. What we read may be fundamental, but unless you're equiped with the tools necessary to decipher fact from fiction, what you're reading might just be mental.
I doubt that the rock was "split" by glacial flows, although I could be wrong. The latitudes in Saudi Arabia are too far away from the poles to have been covered in ice. But wind+sand erosion - absolutely.
There's evidence that the Pleistocene glaciation affected the highland areas of Saudi Arabia, said evidence including polygonal cracking of bedrock indicating frost action, glacial till, and the presence of erratic boulders. Reference: Laboun, Abdulaziz. (2011). Did glaciers exist during Pleistocene in the Midyan region, northwest corner of the Arabian Peninsula?. Arabian Journal of Geosciences - ARAB J GEOSCI. 5. 10.1007/s12517-011-0279-6. Not to mention that glaciation has long been recognized to have been present in Yemen.
So like all ancient people, the Israelites developped myths to explain things they observed in the natural world, and some of the features that inspired the mythology still exist today for us to discover. Cool
@@SpaveFrostKing Does Jesus come up or is that just the way he was written? Considering the Bible is a book written by Men for Men about Men, it would make perfect sense for Jesus to suddenly become a Man 🤔
"They found blood with only 24 chromosomes, which had to be Jesus's because they all would have come from Mary." Paraphrasing, of course. And I know folks have already pointed this out elsewhere, but I feel the need to reiterate it. If we take this at face value (and ignore any weird counting errors), this would mean, by necessity, that Jesus was trans. If the miraculous conception did not impart any god-DNA to Jesus, than there was no way for him to get a Y chromosome, and I doubt there's room for Mary having carried the male gene on one of her X chromosomes, either. (Since she'd surely be male, then - unless she got a double case of intersex conditions, somehow?) While there's already room for debate that he would have been trans in general, taking this guy at his word would remove virtually all room for doubt. Jesus would be a transgender man.
I'll demonstrate the accuracy of Scripture in a way that has been overlooked in my video 'Begining of understanding ' I give observable material evidence for transmutation by electrical process of genetically superior creatures (seraphim) My icon is a seraph kneeling for one example and my channel is dedicated to giving examples of this
You know how if you're bored,you do creative writing? Well ancient man found anomalous geological formations or they were bored while strolling the country or their towns and then they decided to write interesting stories. The bible for israelites,jews and christians is what 1001 Arabian nights is for Arabs.
I am not sure what 'really real' means. I am not even really sure what 'The' Bible means - there are different canonical lists of what books should be included. It sounds like he is trying to say that some specific stories from the Old Testament are true (mixed along with some assertions like 'the exact spot the Bible says it ...' I don't recall anywhere in the Bible where locations are specified - that is, directions that you could walk to - I think about the closest you can get is city names, or mountains, or large bodies of water. I might be wrong about that, but it's not like they give GPS coordinates!
If Jesus only had genetic information from his mother, Jesus would have been born female. Which, I guess, isn’t ruled out by any of the gospels as far as I know. So if it’s not impossible, then by the laws of apologetics it must be true.
It is a mistake to talk about the Bible as one thing. So any any description of the Bible is wrong. It more than 60 different books, with different authors, with different genre, some inspired, some history, some culture, and some literature, some wishful thinking...
