X3d chip is best thing that we could ask for. Im overclocking my systems since first pentium (got 90mhz up to 133mhz)... and this changed everything. I dont have to waste my time in bios screen any more, just put cpu in and you get 99% of performance, i also tested 2400mhz ram vs b die 3800mhz cl14 and difference was less than 5% on x3d chip. This is godsend and since 5800x3d my next chip will only be x3d in future.
@@kingiument4627Sponsored bot, it's its job. What do you want he discovers 5500 or 5600x are enough and you can spend money saved in nothing, better ram or better gpu? x3d is the way to go but 7800x3d... your rx 6600 is not going to show +100% FPS withs a 5700x3d vs 5500...even if you have 4060 (or s 3070/6700/7600 ) 5500 is the way to go... x3d helps with not needing faster ram, but you better go A620M+ddr5 4800 (tweak bios for lower latency )+ 7800x3d (or 7500F if you can find one or cheapest 7600/X) and get 100% of any gpu almost up to 4080Super/7900XTX...
Thanks for this comment! Was very specific for my needs! As a 5500 owner with a 6800xt and 16gb 2400mhz ram. I just bought the 5700x3D today for $220 new, baller deal! I didnt wanted to spend in AM5 as Im using x570s aorus elite since 1-2 years ago and have seen the x3D boom making ram and latency less important factors. This made me settle for a last hurrah for AM4, as this chip is more efficient than 5800x3D. With PBO -20 curve and ppt set to 105. Bonkers! Excited! Way I see it, for 1080p/1440p or workstation yes the 5800x3D is the better investment product. But for 4k gaming the 58x3D vs 57x3D diff is 1-2% for 20% price cut. What a deal! Plus 8 cores might age better than 5600x3D 6 cores. I will take 8 cores 4.1ghz vs 6-cores 4.4ghz anyday, all day, twice on sundays.
Agree Overclocking is a waste of time and a good percentage of overclocked systems are unstable and burn out faster. I stopped that non sense pre 2010. Some people would over clock a lamp shade just to do it.
3:45 I would say that the 5700X3D is especially appealing for those who run sub 3000 CL16 RAM on their old AM4 Platform since the X3D chips care less about RAM speed.
They shouldnt be running that low of ram speed period with a high end cpu. What is the point of this why do you care about being able to use it with outdated subpar components
@@kingiument4627 I think you are forgetting the DDR4 prices of 2018, 170€ for a 2x8GB 3000MHz kit was nothing unusual. Why throw it away when you can use it with a X3D CPU with minimal performance loss?
@@samserious1337 ddr4 prices were never that expensive and even now it costs half that to get a set of 32gb 3600 mhz ram. Youre better off getting new ram and buying a cheaper or equivalent cpu and enabling rebar. Even still most cpu’s dont really suffer from 3000mhz or 2800mhz ram anyways
@@kingiument4627 I guess you haven't bought a PC in 2018, eh? Just look up some data, my 2x8GB kit had cost over 180€ from the end of 2017 to mid 2018. I upgraded it a few months ago from 16GB to 32GB with the same kit. Now 4x8GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3000 CL15 @ 3200 CL16 tuned subtimings.
I guess depends what you have vs buying a whole other kit but am4 could only use up to 3200mt consistently i haven’t had much gains on either of my timings on docp
Just replace my well served Ryzen 5 3600 with this chip and boy, it's given my PC a new lease of life and gaming is so much better now. Wish I got it sooner
I think the 5700X3D needs to be $200 or cheaper. Once we get to Black Friday/Cyber Monday, we should see it for that price, then it'll become a no-brainer and a smash hit.
I agree, but the faster in games 5600xd3 is at 199.00 current the best bang for the dollar X3D chip. Ofter faster than the 5800x3d due to throttling of the 5800. The 5700x3d is the slowest in games. I choose the 5600x3d but it was 160.00 at the time or 90.00 less than the slower 5700x3d in games. They need to be the same price, no way I would pay more for a slower gaming cpu put the extra coin into something else.
the 5700x3d is currently available on aliexpress for 155 usd, figured at that price id make the jump to 3d vcache. now I have to wait and see if its a real cpu or not lol
Well right now the 5700X3D is 200 USD on newegg. The 5600X3D is 350. 75% more price for 3-5% performance difference means the 5600X3D is gonna have to come down a LOT price wise to come close to the 5700 in terms of frames per dollar.
@@kylehutto8044 The 5600X3D is a bit special in that it's kind of rare. The fact that it's gone up in price since isn't a surprise. It was always just a limited SKU so AMD could dump failed X3Ds. Over time prices always fluctuate, the fact it's gone up just means it's actually basically out of stock. Just looking at original MSRPs though, the 5600X3D technically was it. 5700X3D was always going to get it eventually I guess just because it's more widely available and not limited to a specific US retail chain. That fact the 5700X3D is now basically matching the 5600X3Ds MSRP is impressive. Shows you how much extra margin AMD had on them to begin with. Something Intel can only dream about currently.
"AM4 in the tech world is an ancient platform" is not what you want to hear the same day you are about to build your new(ish) AM4 PC haha. I have a Ryzen 5700X3D and an ASRock PG 7900XT arriving today. All I bought for the build is the CPU and GPU, I already had the rest of the hardware which is an ASRock B550m itx mobo, a 32gb kit of DDR4 3200mhz CL14 dual rank ram, a Corsair SF600 Plat PSU, 2TB nvme and 2TB SATA SSD's, air cooler, Jonsbo V8 case. I wanted an all AMD build, I'm done with Ngreedia and their anti-consumer ways! They have gone too far!
I did the same thing last year with the 5800x3D / 6950 xt. Added a few other used upgrades after the fact to repurpose some components for an office build. Still solid performance in most scenarios.
@@321backlipwtf does that have to do with the x3D parts? Of course that chip is shit. It’s also named shit. Should be 5700f like Intel does when they disable an iGPU.
@@brewnrd8742No need for the foul language lossless said he was "done with Ngreedia" and i just pointed out that AMD's 5700 nom x is a scam, brand loyalty leaves uninformed consumers at risk of being taken advantage of.
5700X3D seems like a decent CPU at first glance. But once you compare it to tuned 5600/5700X, it is just a tad bit faster. So if you have a decent RAM kit, you won't really feel meaningful improvement over your old chip. But those, who have older and slower RAM kits, might consider 5700X3D as an upgrade. Although it would be cheaper to upgrade RAM - B-Dies are pretty cheap these days. The real sweet spot for 5700X3D is $200-$220. At that price this CPU would be a great upgrade option for almost every AM4 owner. While 5800X3D should go down to $250. Otherwise AM5 with it's 7500f is not that far in terms of value, but since it offers much greater upgradeability, it sure worth a small premium.
Bro u cant compare 5600 vs x3d chips on games (goated games) like rust or cs2 that can really use x3d cache. Just compare it urself, +60fps difference guaranteed.
@@eduardoguerra989 Have not seen any comparisons between these CPUs in Rust, but in CS2 5800X3D is a just tad bit faster than untuned 5600 (~10% maybe). This means 5700X3D is on par with 5600 in this game. While 7500f is much faster than 5800X3D in CS2. And there are games like Total War Saga Troy, where 3D cache does nothing at all, such games need cores and higher clocks (which 3D CPUs lacks). That is a big problem of 3D CPUs - their performance advantage is not constant. It vary from game to game. There are games like SotTR, where 3D cache means a lot, but that game is not relevant (it is based on an outdated engine, that nobody will ever use again). While in modern games (based on UE5 etc.) 3D cache is less effective. This must be reflected in the price tags of 3D CPUs.
@@stangamer1151People dont realize they can just buy a 5900x and enable ReBar and its way better value than the 5800x3d and 5700x3d. Same goes for 7600 for people building new computers just enable one option and boom lol
@@stangamer1151 There are still a good number of games where the 3D cache plays a big role in performance, which can be pretty relevant for games that may get pretty intensive at 1440p or 4K. Something like a 5600 or 5700X would probably be a better choice for wanting good framerates in 1080p or really popular shooter games where multiplayer is the focus compared to single player games that may focus on higher graphical fidelity for the experience. I'd say if someone plays single player games/campaigns as a focus, then an X3D CPU will be more worth it for the games where the cache matters. Shooter games where many CPUs are getting 140+ FPS it won't make as much of a difference admittedly, it would be more for games that hover around 70-100 FPS I think.
Expecting mine today, decided to make the small but good jump from the non x3d because I needed a little more power from the cpu and the am4 to am5 switch isn’t in my cards atm. I think I will be very happy woth it. Star Wars jedi survivor is the one I’ll be testing cuz that is running ok but breaks sometimes real hard on the 5700x.
@@brandonrogers917 well 8 months later yeah and I won't argue with that, I have a friend that bought one, seems to be enjoying the 5700x3d and well tbh you're not gonna notice much difference between them unless say its cores related
The 5700X3D is in my opinion the best mid-tier CPU available for anyone on a strict budget who enjoys gaming. For its price to performance and being even more power efficient than the 5800X3D for only a minor dip in performance, it seems like a no brainer for someone who needs to cut corners on budget but still wants the performance of a higher tier PC for graphically intensive games. It should be noted that when the 5700X3D was first released, prices for the 5800X3D were about $320 (except at Micro Center where parts commonly see discounts, but I think those are in store discounts). So it was a $70 difference with the 5700X3D's $250 price tag being roughly 20% cheaper but only losing about 4-10% of the 5800X3D's performance (it depends on the game). It wasn't until after the 5700X3D's launch that the 5800X3D started to see a slight dip in price, which to me shows just how much of a value that the 5700X3D must be considered by people when the higher end CPU sees the need for a price drop to make it more attractive from a value perspective. It's a good problem to have when AMD is competing with itself with 2 top quality CPUs that perform so well even without the support of AM5 hardware, and those who are looking at getting a 5800X3D still benefit from the more competitive pricing they get.
@@zilverman7820 AM4 is a much less expensive platform to build in or upgrade in right now. Much less expensive motherboard and RAM (especially in the used market). And the price difference between the 5700X3D and the more expensive X3D CPUs is pretty significant. If you live near a Micro Center that has bundles and discounts for the 5800X3D and 7800X3D they are really good options. But if you need a CPU shipped to you, the 5700X3D will be a great value proposition at a very efficient wattage and performance for the price.
am4 is still fast enough to handle everything, am5 is prohibitively expensive atm. It's also stable platform (am4) vs new platform (am5). Also remember that usually the first release of anything usually has a lot of driver updates that are required to fix bugs and other issues that didn't come up during testing. To wait for second gen is always a good idea, simply because the drivers and hardware have been stabilized and improved.
Seems overpriced to me for old Gen. Rather stay with my AM4 3800x for another couple years and then upgrade to AM5. My cpu is still plenty fast enough for gaming at 3k res with 3080Ti.
Got the 5700x3d with 1yr warranty yesterday by trading my 6month old 5600 non-x and adding $80. Paired it with my 6800xt and 1440p 180hz monitor and it can run anything max settinga except maybe games I didnt play yet like wukong
With the 8700g out, I just got the 5700g cause I don't need GPU. Exchanged an older laptop for 3 quarters of the retail price. So basically paid less than less for it.
The problem with the 5600G and the 5700G is that their graphics are based on Vega architecture and AMD is no longer supporting it beyond critical updates.
I think it is interesting, and the reviews from GN and HUB seemed decently positive. However, I think the 5800X3D is still the chip to go for if somebody wants a good upgrade from say a Ryzen 2000 or 3000 series chip. Also, I swear I read something about AMD maybe releasing a 6 core 5500X3D; but I don't remember where I read that, and no news on that at all recently. IF I were building right now, AM5 all the way as it is probably supporting Zen 6 (releasing late 2025 if MLID is correct) and we already know how stupid powerful the 7800X3D is. Just imagine the 9800X3D.
Well, it's way too late. I thought i was the last one on the planet when i have bought 5800X over year ago ( switched from 2700X ). Back then 5800X3D was 60% more expensive and had zero sense. If you are a gamer you don't wait for years and years
As much as I’d like to get excited for this, it’s 2 years after the 5800x3d. The 5800x3d was also going for around $270 last year. This might be decent if on 3000 or older
@@kingiument4627 actually it was at $270 last year. A number of channels even covered this and I distinctly remember it being $350 here in canada which is around that price converted during the summer. The point is, it’s been below that a number of times so at this point, it’s not enticing above $300 in 2024
@@NGreedia I dont remember it being 270 I think those were just sales I could be wrong I dont have time to look at this moment. As of right now its sitting right at 300 give or take
@@NGreedia The 5800X3D I think has received discounts at Micro Center, but they tend to run sales and put discounts on products much more often than other retailers.
@@kingiument4627I actually ended up getting the 5700x3d on sale for around $177usd and at that price, it was less than what I paid for my 5600 and should allow me to use a better graphics card for a longer time
Guys, should I upgrade to 5700X3D (or 5800X3D) from a 5800X on 49" 5120x1440p @ 165Hz monitor with a 7900 XT ? 1440p SuperUltraWide is closer to 4K and it's a known fact that the "3D upgrade" is NOT worth at that resolution ? 🤔
I would still easily go AM5 if building new with Ryzen 5 7500F or 7600/X. It will be a bit pricier, sure, but you get ddr5, faster gaming than 12600k and the AM5 upgrade path for ryzen 8000 and 9000 in the next few years.
I’ll be putting together a new build within the next month I’ll be going 7800x3d and 7800xt I was considering going 7600 and upgrading later but I’m just going to get the x3d chip now
Please do not. The 7600 build is still the same price as this and its faster. If you want more fps out of the 7600 enable ReBar and it does the same thing the extra 3d vcache does
So 5700X3D is new i7 2600K huh I palm to upgrade from 3600 my self and am5 platform still has some problems. Ryzen 9000 x3D looks like will be a worth for new platform switch. 5700X3D will do more than good for now and even a 5700X is good to sine prices drops. If you go for new PC is better to go with new platform socket - 99,99% of the time
Its old but the 5600, 5700 and 5800X3d will be fine for many more years. Newer stuff not a WOW over it. Keep your ram, MB, Video Card, upgrade the cpu only save a ton. Wait till next round of MB/CPU/RAM come around because the latest are a big yawn.
Very game dependent and resolution; doesn’t matter much at 4k and at 1080p it will be more impactful for .1% lows and stutters/frametime The 3d cache isnt going to leverage much for higher visuals and the biggest concern for any cpu now is IPC for game logic and RT; it can just get overwhelmed as you can do 4090 at path tracing but the cpu bottleneck is going to make it indistinguishable from other high end GPUs games barely use 8 cores but the clocks on any x3d is locked for the for nost part so you can only get up to like 4.6ghz on 5800x3d which is slow in comparison to a productivity based chip
@shanent5793 all cpus are cuts from silicone on a 'die'. So some dies are of higher quality in the fabrication process. If the quality is not high enough for the type of 'bin' the cpu requires (category) then it can be used to a lower class bin, i.e 5800x3d can become a 5700x3d. Or an S / K series intel chip can be used as a non K or a kf series if the bin is too low for the former.
So a Gamer cant pay $50 more for a 5800x3d? If your already paying the X3D tax then what is 50 more? A 100 difference might be another story. But then just get a cheaper non 3d.
For some, $249 is already reaching, especially in Europe. So spending another $50 makes no sense, especially since you aren't getting the 20% performance boost you are paying for. Again, that's just US prices.
People on tight budgets would be paying $50-$60 more for about a 4-10% uplift in performance. The 5800X3D is still the better upgrade CPU if upgrading from a much less powerful AM4 CPU, as you're only footing the cost of replacing one component. I think if building a new computer however and the price point of an AM5 build is out of the realm of your budget, then the 5700X3D gets the job done well at an efficient price for cutting corners on cost.
@@TinfoilTimmy People who are "reaching" shouldnt be spending so much in the first place on a specific Gaming Processor. There are cheaper non x3d processors. Money better saved for a better GPU anyway, or just saved.
